Astoria NY: El-Ber Islamic School~ Creating More Slaves to Islam

Besides exposing Sharia Mosques in America I have decided to start looking into what Islamic schools are up to as well. Today we can see that the El-Ber Islamic School located at 25-42 49Th Street Astoria, is not teaching young Muslims to assimilate.

Lets start with the goals of the school.

Goals of El-Ber Islamic School

“And I ( Allah) create not the Jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone)”
[Surah Adh-Dhariyat 56]

El-Ber Islamic School seeks to provide its students with education and development under the shade of the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Mohamed (s.a.w.).

El-Ber Islamic School seeks to be a vehicle for its students providing them with beneficial knowledge, developing their character, and equipping them with skills that will enable them to be leaders of our communities and others, InSha’Allah. To accomplish this goal the school will,InSha’Allah, provide the best curriculum (NEW YORK STATE ADVANCED CURRICULUM) along with the best teachers for the students.

Yes, spreading the hate that stems from Islam is NYS certified.

In the school’s opening message it has guidelines for Islamic parenting. These are very similar to the one I posted from Islamic-World.net

Message from the Director. Mr. Atef I. Mohamed

Dear respected parents, guardians, and our beautiful children,

May peace and blessings of Allah be upon you all

I would like to welcome you all, wholeheartedly, to an all new academic year … and to also introduce to you this website which, I hope, you will go over thoroughly to familiarize yourselves with the rules, regulations, and policies of El-Ber Islamic School which is devoted to educate children in an authentic Islamic way, providing them with the useful and necessary education; after all, these children are Allah’s trust in our hand, so we have to treat them accordingly, since the preservation and the safeguarding of this trust hinges primarily upon Good Education.

Investing in educating children is the sole fast and thriving way for any society that plans for a successful and civilized future. This education can only be nurtured via a solid interaction of efforts involving the home, the school, and the Mosque; and everyone does their best to make a man who is a leader and a rightly guided individual. The house, the heart of which is the mother and the father is its covering, full of love, consciousness, and mercy, is the house that makes the man.

I would just like to note that the words man that are highlighted above, is exactly how they had it on their site.

Furthermore, it’s worth mentioning that the role of the mother in education is greater that the husband’s or the teacher’s; she is undeniably the one who can handle and endure this role. I’d like to seize this opportunity to put forward some important guidelines in educating children:

1- Parents are highly advised to read and learn the ways of the prophet (pbuh) as well as hismanners and ways in education.

When see statements like the one above, I immediately think of how most Muslims will not even begin to question Islam. All because they have been told the Koran is literal word of Allah. Mohammad was a rapist, and acting like he was so well behaved is an extreme act of denial. The man needs to be exposed over and over. I encourage you guys to ask Muslims if they would allow their daughter to be married off at the age of six. Let them know this behavior is unacceptable here, non-negotiable!

2- A part of your duties is to watch your children and follow up with their activities; help them choose righteous friends, and read interesting and useful books; solve their problems through persuasion, and with wisdom.

Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

3- Teach your children Al-Qur’an and Sunnah; Awaken their desire for Al-Jannah (Paradise), and warn them of An-Naar (Hellfire).

The Sunnah is the words and deeds of Mohammad. Here just a few examples of them.

Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 52:

Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 66:
Narrated Abu Abs:

(who is ‘Abdur-Rahman bin Jabir) Allah’s Apostle said,” Anyone whose both feet get covered with dust in Allah’s Cause will not be touched by the (Hell) fire.”

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 72:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said, “Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah).”

Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba: Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that “Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise.” Umar asked the Prophet, “Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their’s (i.e. those of the Pagan’s) will go to the (Hell) fire?” The Prophet said, “Yes.”

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 73:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Abi Aufa:

Allah’s Apostle said, “Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords.”

4- Teach your child the utterance and saying of La’ilaha illa-Laah, Mohammadur-Rrasul-ul-Laah (There is no god worthy of worship but Allah, Mohamed is the Messenger of Allah) from his/her early age, for it is a benefaction and a blessing.

In others word, do not allow the children to even consider another religion other than Islam, and do not question Mohammad.

5- Teach your children to ask no one but Allah and seek His help; instill in them, from their early age, His love and faith in Him alone.

#5 is all about creating more slaves to Islam. It is just sad what they teach their children.

6- Warn your children of blasphemy, cursing, or using any bad language, and of stealing and lying.

Do not question or criticize Islam. This is just more mental slavery. For those who are reading and are new to the subject, most types of lying is actually allowed under Islam. This can be seen HERE.

7- Warn your children of gambling, even if it’s for fun.

8- Train your child to pray and fast and show him/her their benefits.

According to Islamic Law, a parent should hit a child for not praying. From the Reliance of the Traveller. A Classical Manual of Islamic Law.

WHO MUST PRAY

f1.2 When a child with discrimination (O: meaning he can eat, drink, and clean himself after using the toilet unassisted) is seven years of age, he is ordered to perform the prayer, and when ten is beaten for neglecting it (N: not severely, but so as to discipline the child, and not more than three blows).

9- Birthday celebration is Bid’a, and therefore it is forbidden in our Deen.

In other words you are are not an individual, you are just another part of the ummah.

10- Don’t let your children view dissipated magazines, or detective stories, nor will you let them watch T.V. or go to the movies, because of their potential affect on the children’s behavior now and in the future.

So there is nothing worthwhile on T.V.? Is the movie Cinderella a threat to Islam?

11- Warn your children of smoking and advise them to eat what is good.

12- Train children to be righteous in deeds and in words.

13- Make your daughter love Al-hijab in her early age so she’d be committed, to it when she grows up.

Here are some pictures from the school’s website.

14- Train your child to use his/her right hand in giving and receiving things, eating or drinking, and while writing.

15- Teach your children bravery, encouraging kindness and forbidding abominable acts.

16- Buy educational and valuable Islamic story books for your children so they may learn from them.

How about buying them a book on American history, and all the good this country has done across the world?

17- Use the approaches of Targheeb and Tarheeb, Targheeb alone is not enough.

Targheeb and Tarheeb mean encouragement and warning. Please see #8.

Your Brother,
Atef Mohamed

As with all above, the “About our school” page says nothing about assimilating.

About Our School

El Ber Islamic School
‘In The Name of Allah, the Most Gracious , The Bestower of Mercy’

The Establishment:
• El-Ber Islamic School was established in 1997

Levels of Education:
• Currently from Nursery to Sixth grade

Religion:
• Children’s education in a family-like Islamic environment
• Observance of Salaat-ul- Jumu’a (Friday Prayer), and Al-Jama’aat (daily group-prayer rituals) in the school.
• Protecting children and raising them in an Islamic manner

Morals:
• Sincerity and Honesty
• Faithfulness and Trustworthiness
• Unselfishness
• Love to do good deeds and help others

Education:
• The Islamic curricula are based on The Holy Qur’an and the Noble
• Sunnah
• New York State Advanced educational curriculum
• High–Level Arabic Language

Link to Article

As we can clearly see this school is not about assimilating at all, it is about creating an Islamic America. As non-Muslims we have only two choices here. Either we speak up or we surrender. Where do you stand?

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Andrea
Andrea
11 years ago

“• Protecting children and raising them in an Islamic manner” —

That pretty much says it all. And when I look at those little girls wrapped up head to toe, I say to myself – what kind of life is that for a young 9 year old girl? They are not allowed to be kids. They are pawns in the dark game of Islam. And that STINKS!

Lily Goodwin
Lily Goodwin
7 years ago
Reply to  admin

Wow, that is definitely a lie!!!! I am Jewish but I studied religion and in the Q’uran, your child must be a young adult and older, to be married or have children. Just like in America and other religions. Please keep your lies to yourself. Thank you.

Christopher Logan
Christopher Logan
7 years ago
Reply to  Lily Goodwin

Sorry, but you are misrepresenting Islam. There is no age minimum for females to marry in Islam. http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=65&tAyahNo=4&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

Funny how you are the SECOND person to post here tonight and point out that you are “Jewish”, yet both have different names….

Ann-Marie
11 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Trash bags in training. It’s just heartbreaking!

UbinBUSHwhacked
11 years ago

Speak out IS out only hope. If not to late already. More on this subject here…

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/22/anti-semitic-saudi-textbooks-use-uk/

Unlike what Muslim’s seem to believe, democracy does have it’s rules for it’s society. Any supremacy of one people over another, that does not include the GOLDEN RULE, cannot be tolerated for a society for ALL peoples. Speak out now! Or forever Rest in Peace.

old white guy
old white guy
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

we have been aware of it for over 25 years to 1000 years yet we are unwilling to do anything about it.

You're a hater
You're a hater
10 years ago

So what if Muslims create Islamic educational institutions in order to teach their children their religion? Jews have it and so do Catholics and thats because they want their children to know who God is. Hate to break it to you guys, but the Virgin Mary was covered up, and so are nuns, and so are orthodox Jews. And Muslims cover up to. No six year old in Islam is getting married these days k? Learn your history. It was a social practice for EVERY CULTURE AND RELIGION to marry off their daughters. Now it just doesn’t exist.
If you don’t like Islam that’s your problem, but don’t spread your nasty hate to others.

eib
eib
10 years ago
Reply to  You're a hater

Quote:
No six year old in Islam is getting married these days k?
end

You don’t read the news very much, do you?
Children are being married and suffering or dying as a result of early sexual behavior with their supposedly loving adult husbands.
Your religion is profane.
Your prophet is false.
Your culture is corrupt.
Your deity is a demon.
You submit and are satisfied with a prophet.
I have a Savior, a Redeemer, I have the Son of God.
And then you claim to have done well.

eib
eib
10 years ago
Reply to  You're a hater

This is your faith in practice, in truth.

Quote:
AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. [“Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.

AFTER KHOMEINI:
In June, 2002 Iranian authorities approved a law raising the age at which girls can marry without parental consent from 9 to 13. The elected legislature actually passed the bill in 2000, but the “Guardian Council”, a 12-man body of conservative clerics, vetoed it as contradicting Islamic Sharia law.

It is quite common in Iran for older men to marry children, as long as they pay the appropriate bride-price to the girl’s family. This basically means that a father can sell his daughter to whomever he wants, whilst the mad mullahs see this as a means of maintaining purity. We prefer to call this child prostitution and rape, especially given that Iran’s clerics approve of the ‘tradition’ of ‘temporary marriage’ (Mut’a), which can last less than 24 hours and may be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation is widespread and legitimises sex with young children. The man may even visit his temporary wife every weekend at her father’s house, for about $10 per visit.
end

http://israelpalestine-speedy.blogspot.com/2010/11/ayatollah-khomeinis-on-sex-with.html

Dance with the devil for five minutes, and he’s got you for life!

eib
eib
10 years ago
Reply to  You're a hater

I’m sure you’ll mince around about the age. 9? 6?
And you say you approve of a 9 year old having sex?
Really?

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago

The Death of a Nation. The perhaps worst Treason in modern history.
On Wednesday, Swedish Parliament decides on a new constitution.Through a wide range of
transformative changes Sweden – in violation of citizens who – in
even more a vassal to the EU. Multiculturalism becomes imperative, the power
centralized in the Big Brother state, the municipalities will lose much of
their autonomy and the Swedish citizenship becomes a
worthless dummy. The transformation of Sweden into a multicultural
hell that was started by a unanimous parliamentary resolution in 1975 cast now
definitively in the concrete. Thus completes the Swedish government and parliament, the
treason which they assiduously worked on for four decades.
The Swedish policy-makers can not get enough of multiculturalism. Now it is written into the
Constitution and is mandatory. The decision will be taken on Wednesday by the seven old
parliamentary parties. Only Sweden Democrats will vote against the
new Constitution. The Seven-party (so called because of their complete consensus) is in
final concrete casting of history’s greatest economic, social,
demographic and cultural fiasco, the multicultural
social experiment. They not only relegates Sweden to a unique
position in the international league folly – they also dig their own
graves with haste it seems. But they do not understand. The power elite think they are
invulnerable. Blinded by the simplicity, power drunk and political illusions
carve it on what will be its own downfall.
Segregation will be promoted
The new law says: “Ethnic, linguistic and religious minorities
ability to retain and develop its own culture and community life will
promoted. “Formerly known as the” should be promoted, now becomes the “must”. A
imperative terms. We can look forward to even greater Islamization, more
honor and shame killings, more culturally conditioned criminality, more coercive
and child marriages, more maidenhead surgeries, more Iraqi
multimillion-dollar fraud involving the family employed as personal assistants
to healthy people, more cases of arson in schools and cars, more
stone-throwing against the police and rescue personnel, more robberies and rapes against
84-year-olds, and more beatings by male obstetricians to the
the wrong sex.
Such elements are of course in some immigrant communities culture. We must
understand. According to the cultural relativism that has lulled the entire Swedish
political and media elite in a comfortable anesthesia are all cultures equally
well, even those who are wont to throw their daughters out of the balconies,
forced marry minors, would execute homosexuals and see women
as inferior alternative creatures that men have the right to do what they
want to. To name just a few of the features of the multiculturalism in
increasing rate is about to dismantle the former welfare state
Sweden and turn it into a socially, culturally and economically developing
country.
The change sneaked through
Amendments to the Constitution is so important that it takes two
parliamentary decisions with a choice between. The Constitution is the floor joists in
social structure, the foundations that underpin democracy. The Swedish people have
clearly right to inspect and give their views on such a large
legislative amendment. But as usual, sneaked the really big changes
through without debate and over people’s heads, while the mass media
look the other way and observe the utmost silence. The first
contitutuional change decision was taken on June 2. This is what the country’s largest
morning paper, Dagens Nyheter, has been able to accomplish if
amendment to the constitution – the magazine seems to have made an effort to find the
most trivial points in the 423-page government bill.
Other constitutional amendments are much more momentous:
• The Swedish EU membership is written into the Constitution. To
Sweden is to leave the EU needed a new system of constitutional amendment. The swedish
Government and Parliament decide to tie himself to the mast of a ship
that everyone sees is declining. The Show Must Go On, is the message.
“We believe that the Swedish membership in the EU are anything but popular
grounded and that therefore it is disrespectful to enter the same in
constitution “writes the Sweden Democrats’ party leader Jimmie Åkesson
Inter-national authorizing Secretary Kent Ekeroth to the Svenska Dagbladets debate page
Focal point.
According to a study this year by SIEPS in collaboration with SOM
Institute considers a narrow majority of the Swedish population (51 percent) to
EU membership is a positive. Most EU-critical is the Left and
Green Party, but joined wholeheartedly to the new constitution of
June and will do the same on Wednesday. It is no longer knowledge
and the sense that the parliamentary decisions – if there ever has been. Now
it is on a level of a sand-box that goes, but most important,no matter of substance, nvere vote with the Sweden democrats. .On his blog, explains Jonas Sjöstedt from Vänsterpartiet (left)amendment as “an issue that does not
matter “.
Immigrants do not need to learn Swedish
• Immigrants may be constitutionally protected rights to segregate themselves
themselves from their new homeland and the Swedish population. They need
not learn Swedish or otherwise adapt to Sweden.
SFI (school for immigrants) can be closed. Where the state can save millions.
• The school is obliged to offer not only the mother tongue education
but education in all languages and dialects. “A Vietnamese
immigrant family in the town of Blattnicksele can with the constitution require that the local school hires a Vietnamese-speaking teacher only
their children, “writes the blog Hayekinstitutet, who calls the new
constitution “a nice little coup d’etat”.
• Health services have to employ staff who speak all possible
languages and dialects, such as Swahili, Pashto and Dari. Swedish
immigrants speak some 200 different languages, including Arabic is now the third
largest after the Swedish and Finnish. All language should naturally be
available to immigrants.
• Being a Swedish citizen loses its significance. In the Act
changed consistent words “every citizen” to “everyone”. Each
who happen to reside in Sweden, although illegal, have the same status as the
Swedish citizens. Native Swedes who have built the country has thus
same value as illegal immigrants.
My note: I have translated the text with Google and tried to correct as many goofs the machine text made. I hope it is understandable. This is just a portion of the article as it is copyrighted to the pseudonym of Julia Caesar, a swedish journalist blogging under alias on a danish blog called Snaphanen, for the sole reason of fear of being persecuted in her own country. I’ll link to the full article. if you’re interested you can translate it by Google yourselves and if the machine goofs up, please tell me and I’ll try to clear up the eventual machine goofs.
http://snaphanen.dk/2010/11/21/s%C3%B8ndgaskronik-ett-fullbordat-landsforraderi/#comment_start

John Sobieski
John Sobieski
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

Swedish suicide. Where is the public or are they so brainwashed that their denial is a bliss despite their world, their home becoming more dangerous and discomfiting? It’s not home at all, just another 3rd world craphole with modernity but no security. Ah, the illusions of the masses.

It was difficult to read, but easy to understand.

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

Sooo sad!! The legislated extinction of an entire culture. Sweden will descend into a tribal, lawless no mans land! Just Unf*****g believeable!

Who is going to pay for all this multilingual BS at schools, hospitals etc considering a large group of immigrants refuse to work and suck the system like starving vampires?

Who does this serve and how?

Kenney Nitely
11 years ago

New Yahk is the TRUE city of Angels. Keep that to yourself. Dont tell thatto the LA folk!

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago

There seems to be no joy at all in pislam. It is haram to listen to music and dance, watch movies or tv-series for pure entertainment, read books for your own pleasure.

Speaking about muslim schools, it has been revealed that they teach 6-year olds how to cut off hands and feet in UK. Preparing for the full sharia that we all know will come?

damien
damien
11 years ago

Admin,

We should lock up the people who run these schools. Seriously, we should not let the Suadis or any other Islamic state fund schools in the US. In the mean time, does El-Ber Islamic School get tax payer funding? If it does we might be able to at least shut them down for violating the establishment clause.

damien
damien
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Admin,

I kind of expected you would, but
what about the question of weather or not this “school” gets tax payer funding? I’m hoping that we can shut it down, and soon.

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  damien

Are you kidding? No one will close this fifth column training camp down. We live in the age of Obama “the Uniter” and his ruling minions.

damien
damien
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

AmericanMe,

If people on our side are determined enough, we can get it shut down, especially if they are receiving government funds somehow. In addition to the fact that you could argue that the people running this thing are guilty of sedition, there’s a little thing in the constitution called the establishment clause. Islam is a religion. Its a violation of the first amendment for the state to endorse a religion, including with your tax dollars.

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago

You know a lot about Islam for someone that is preaching fear and hate. Muslims that lie in America and raise their children here, love America. You never quote the Hadith that Muslims tell each other all the time. The Prophet said to live by the laws of the lands that we are in. 🙂 Why do you deny the truth that Muslims do not hate nonMuslims. In fact, it is the exact opposite.

Jacop
Jacop
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Admin. Why are your always obsessed by the ((rape))?? did you experienced a child abuse when you was a child ?? did somebody raped you???

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

I ignore rape accusations because I actually know people who have committed their lives to fighting sex trafficking and Muslims are chiefly responsible for sex trafficking as a matter of fact they have never been the pimps as far as know. BTW sextrafficking is sex slavery. The accusation of rape does not male any sense. Their is nothing in the Quran that condones rape.

Also Fiqh is not Shariah.

BTW, I have read the Qur’an and Hadith. My daughter goes to a Muslim schools and your allegations are false. No one is taught Sharia law and if they were, it would not challenge the constitution, becuase the constitution provides INALIENABLE rights.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

You cannot teach Islam, you cannot impart anything of its completeness, without teaching Islamic law.
That is what holds the Muslim community together– they have no loyalty to nation-state (a Western invention).

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Go on attacking Islam as thousands did before you through the last one thousand fourhendreds years and still Islam is advancing in the heartes
of men and its spreading all over the world ,and hundreds are embrassing Islam everyday considerd as the most growing religion nowdays!!!!((Fain would they put out the light of GOD with their mouths, but GOD disdaineth (aught) save that He shall perfect His light, however much the disbelievers are averse. (32) He it is Who hath sent His messenger(Mohammed) with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse)). The Holy Coran

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

The sword of Sharia cuts two ways.
You are enjoined to live by the laws of the nation you inhabit.
That means that secular law must be supreme, not just in our lives, but in yours.

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

No one knows anything about Sharia Law. The admin quotes ancient texts no one uses, LOL, and Fiqh has never been mistaken for Shariah. In fact studying requires that you understand 4 different interpretations of your rules od practice.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

If no one knows anything about Sharia Law, then why is it practiced so widely. Why are there Sharia courts in nearly every Muslim immigrant community?
Sharia Law imposes the fear that keeps Islam together. If there were no fear, Muslims would go where they wanted to go and do what they desired to do in freedom. As it is, the culture is anti-individualistic and anti-reason. And where reason does not rule– no one is free.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

I’m sure the objective of all 4 interpretations is the imposition of fear.
Fear in the infidel.
Fear in the suspect.
Fear in the community.
It is all you have left.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

The only reason those arselifters love America, that is if it is not pure taqyyia, is because they think their children and grand-children will live in a future America dominated and governed by pislam and sharia. Koranimals such as yourself cannot stand being dominated by filthy kuffar pigs, dogs and apes. I’m I not true, arselifter?

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

“muslims that lie in America” is there another kind? The more they can get Sharia into this country the more they will “live by the law of the lands that we are in”. How could they not love it, and teach their children about their new found mastery.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

This is a classic example of what Islam allows but Western secular law absolutely forbids.

patriotmom32
patriotmom32
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

Not allowing our daughters to marry at the age of 6? Hell NO I wouldn’t want to live in a country or under a religion that my baby would be given to some nasty pig sometimes triple her age so he could rape and pilage her. I am so glad I am a infidel if that means I have more respect and love for my children.

CGW
CGW
11 years ago

Did you notify the State Board of Education and the ACLU? If they are getting any public subsidies they are breaking the law.

Quit jawing and follow up, someone, with achievements! The ACLU is suing an islamic charter school (state-funded) here in MN for those same reasons. But someone had to GET INVOLVED for it to happen.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago

Bare Naked Islam posted about the treachery the elites of my country is currently committing against us. Tomorrow they will vote to change the constituition. It means leaving EU will be much harder, multuculturalism will be written into the constitution, our citizenship degraded completely. Any foreigner on swedish land will be worth as much as a native.

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/sweden-death-of-a-nation/#comments

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

I read BNI’s article and posted. I read it at 2am as I could not sleep and was online. I poured myself a glass of wine stayed up the rest of the night thinking of the Sweden I grew up seeing and hearing about and what it has become i mcried off on as I thought of it. Truly this is some kind of suicidal madness your people are being subjigated to. As always Sweden is in my prayers.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

It’s just incredible. I read earlier today that now the commander in chief of the whole military doesn’t even need to be a swedish citizen! Can you believe it? Right now it is a swede but in a few months from now he could be replaced by any wicked koranimal out there. I fear that if not a miracle happens soon, I will be living in a caliphate within a year from now. One thing is for sure, the islamisation will speed up rapidly now to become even worse than we see in UK or France now. It’s like living in a kafkaesque nightmare.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

In the past I told myself that at sometime people would come to their senses and all this would stop. But they have not and it is not. People have truly taken to insanity.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

I saw your article also. It was heart-rending.

Jacop
Jacop
11 years ago

Yes we are slaves to Islam and to The all Mighty God !!!! and you Westeners You want to live like animals without Godly control you are slaves to your earthly and sexual desires… yes, you are slaves to adultury, prostitution, alcohol, homosexual and criminality against humanity living like animels, you are a group of bloodthirsty bastardes, criminals !!!! .

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

America has MANY Christians. We ARE Godly but our God does not command mass murder, rape, torture, abusing women, hatred, cruelty to people and animals, ignorance, insensitivity, mass murder, forced conversion and it does not reduce us to idiots. I am slave to nothing but if your ilk gets their way you will enslave and horribly abuse a large portion of the human race because you are sociopaths and criminals to the core. You are murdering Christians in Iraq who have lived there for over 2000 years just because they are Christians. You BURN CHRISTIANS ALIVE in Pakistan. You are sooooo evil that if i did nothing but drink and fornicate every day for the rest of my life I would not be able to reach the level of pure evil that you reach each day just by getting out of bed. You MURDER CHRISTIANS who have never harmed you nor plan to. pious God fearing Christians you BURN ALIVE!!
F**K YOU!

patriotmom32
patriotmom32
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

Woot! Keep speaking up – and come on – you guys go to Mecca but don’t take your wives – correct? But yet more of your kind, marry their daughters off to you for four hours of sex and conviently give you a divorce – hm? And you say I am animal? It would be better for you all just to fuck animals then mess with kids and screw their damn brains up.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

Couldn’t agree more to that. Fuck pislam!!

Jacob
Jacob
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

AmericanMe. You are worried about the christians killed in Iraq but you are not worried about the two milliones iraqis killed by americans in iraq and more than million in Afganistan and you dont shed a tear over the hundreds of thousands of palestinians civilians killed by Isreal in palestine and Gaza!!!!! we are sad and against the killing of inocent christians in Iraq but the invasion of Iraq by the americans started all this drama and created these killers whom they lost their families, children and everything and they want just to reveng pushed by hatred and revenge!!!

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

The Palestinians in Israel are a tool used by all Arabs to inflame hatred of Israel. In Lebanon your beloved palestinians are not allowed to congregate in groups larger than 2 or hold any but menial positions and are kept in refugee camps. The Egyptians closed up every tunnel into Egypt that they dug. when those “poor old Palestinians” were welcomed into Jordan with open arms they tried to overthrow the king. Israel is defending itsself against these reprehensible, suicide bombers who lob bombs at Israeli kindergartens. I am sick of your Palestinian lies. They just built a giant shopping mall in Gaza for chrissake and a water park! America invaded Iraq after the cruel dictator there refused to allow nuclear inspections be properly done and paid money to suicide bombers families as reward when they blew up people in the west. He was warned but refused to yield Hussein was responsible for the invasion because he did not give a damn about his own people. Macho Muslim man said come on I’m not budging and so we did. YOU started this when you blew up the twin towers in the US before we ever went to your countries with military. You danced in the streets at the death of 3000 people. Remember that? Dancing at the death of innocents ring any bells there? We went to Afghanistan after the mastermind of 9-11 and we had every right in the world to do so. You want revenge? Why on the ME Christians who had nada to do with any of this? Lets face it you just like to kill Christians. AND YOU PEOPLE started this not us. Where by the way do you get your numbers they are a tad inflated. Do not count the deaths of muslims by muslims that should bring the number way down. You are a bunch of blood thirsty, cruel, hate filled murderers and you just kill whoever is handy. Right now it is Christians in the ME who had NOT ONE THING to do with any of this. NOT ONE THING!
Better stop typing now I’m sure I’m cutting into your killing of innocent Christians time.

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

And what the christians catholics did with the protestants in Euorpe??? they slaughtered them by hundred of thousands….. is this Jesus christ teachings??? is this loving your enemy??? and what the spaniards did against the jews and muslims in Spain in the middle ages…. they tortured them inside the churches and killed millions of them and kicked the rest of them out of their homes in Spain … and the Jews themselves confessed that they found new homes, and they have been warmly welcomed in Turky and in islamic countries north of Africa !!!and in south of America in the middle ages the catholic church exterminated forty millines indians and stealing their gold !!!! is Jesus Christ or God teached you or command you to do so ???? this is your devil God who is ordering you to do so not Jesus christ….Jesus christ says (( blessed be the peacemakers)) not the warmakers …. hypocrites, murderers… you have nothing to do with the cases or issues of love, faith and peace!!! you are a bunch of bastards most of you deosnt know his biological father, raised in orphanages and you want to revenge from the whole world by destrying it because you never had a family nor home!!! you are the biggest country in the world manufacturing the mass destructive weapons in history… do you think God will reward you for that … God create Hell for criminals people like you not for poor Afghanis or Iraqis or good christians and muslims… keep shouting that muslims are killers and terrorists rapists…etc. no body will believe you because humanity and the world are clever enought to know the truth and who is the victim and who is the criminal and the Media is revealing every truth…. you cant veil the son by your hand!!!!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Samir

And now you self-righteously bring up the Wars of Religion.
A struggle that bled Europe, and one that Islam has yet to experience.
The Wars of Religion were the Christian struggle with modernity, the new printing press, new ideas, and a varied emphasis in religious practice.
But above all, modernity and its impact, and the response to it were at the heart of these wars.
Muslims never had them.
And I’m sure that you have not studied them in any depth because, after all, they’re not your wars.
The point is that we’re not talking about pogroms or calculated crimes here. These were political struggles with religious and cultural overtones mixed in.
Nice try. You can always tell how advanced a culture is not by what it is doing, but by what it has STOPPED DOING.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacop

It’s not us that have sex with animals and children. That is a typical koranimal trait. And if you don’t like our ways, then I suggest you crawl back under what ever rock you came from, cockroach!!

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

Again I know the founders of largest antitrafficking organization in this country and Muslims are not the sex traffickers. hey are drugdealers and non-Muslims selling little innocent boys and girls and subjecting them to a life of prostitution. I dont know why Muslims are being accused of rape. That does not make any sense to me.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

Dressing up prepubescent boys in girls clothing and selling them to the highest bidder (Bacha Bazi), and dressing up little girls in mens’ clothing to sell to the highest bidder (Bacha Posh) is not sex trafficking?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSISL1848920071119?pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=trueThis by Mujahideen – MUSLIM fighters.

According to the state department:
http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2010/142760.htm
“Iran is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced prostitution and forced labor. Iranian women are trafficked internally for forced prostitution and forced marriage. Iranian and Afghan children living in Iran are trafficked internally for commercial sexual exploitation – sometimes through forced marriages, in which their new “husbands” force them into prostitution and involuntary servitude as beggars or laborers to pay debts, provide income, or support drug addiction of their families” This is the profile of the “Great Satan” hating , proud to be a muslim, let’s bring the last Madi back, ever so moral IRAN.

Many Islamic countries warrant a Tier 3 status:
“ Countries whose governments do not fully comply with the minimum standards and are NOT making significant efforts to do so”
And you say “I dont know why Muslims are being accused of rape. That does not make any sense to me.”
Maybe your “antitrafficing organization” needs a little upgrade. You certainly need to recognize when your “brothers” are involved and be honest enough to say so. But you’re just doing your part for your own Jihad – aren’t you.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacop

Your godly authorities murdered the Mozarabic Christians in the 9th Century.
They were not slaves to the world– they were INNOCENT. And Muslim authorities killed them.
Afterward they intimidated Christians such that they had to say that the martyrs killed themselves.
But history has upturned the cart– Muslims have killed innocents.
They will continue to kill innocents.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacop

You cut the heads hands and feet off of people; sacrifice animals on a regular basis by cutting their throats, and you call us blood thirsty? That’s rich.

patriotmom32
patriotmom32
11 years ago
Reply to  New Crusader

But they are allowed to by their book that their god gave to them. Then you come here and go to Europe bringing your crap with you. Why don’t you all just stay in the middle east? We will take to walking or some alternate fuel and you all can stay in the desert – fuck your daughters and sheep and leave us be 🙂

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  patriotmom32

We share the same God I quoted the Qur’an the other day to prove that to you. 🙂 .. or to the admin. People dont respond to your accusations because they have little factual basis.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

The characteristics of Allah in the Quran and God in the Bible are very, very different.
One is true and one is a lie.
If you are a Christian, and if you are honest with yourself, you must call the Quran a lie.
If you are a Muslim, you must call the Bible a lie.

No common ground.
None at all. And the Orthodox Christians have known this for a thousand or so years.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

We do not share the same god. the only thing your hideous qur’an shows is that you are easily decieved.

Amin
Amin
11 years ago

((Who doeth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie concerning Allah or denieth Our tokens. (For such) their appointed portion of the Book (of destiny) reacheth them till, when Our messengers come to gather them, they say: Where (now) is that to which ye cried beside God? They say: They have departed from us. And they testify against themselves that they were disbelievers. (37) God saith: Enter into the Fire among nations of the jinn and humankind who passed away before you. Every time a nation entereth, it curseth its sister (nation) till, when they have all been made to follow one another thither, the last of them saith unto the first of them: Our Lord! These led us astray, so give them double torment of the Fire. He saith: For each one there is double (torment), but ye know not. (38) And the first of them saith unto the last of them: Ye were no whit better than us, so taste the doom for what ye used to earn. (39) Lo! they who deny Our revelations and scorn them, for them the gates of heaven will nor be opened not will they enter the Garden(Paradise) until the camel goeth through the needle’s eye. Thus do We requite the guilty. (40) Theirs will be a bed of hell, and over them coverings (of Hell). Thus do We requite wrong-doers)) The holy Coran.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Amin

Arselifter, trying to scare us with hell doesn’t work. We have left such superstitions behind us. And should hell exist, it is more likely for the likes of you. Hell is supposed to be a place for people who do EVIL things, like murder, robbery, raped, genocide and such. A description that fits YOU koranimals perfectly!!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Amin

Your religion is profane.
Your prophet is false.
Your god is the devil.
Why?
God would never incite hatred.
God would never say “do not take Jews and Christians for your friends.”
And God would certainly not confound judgment with holy war as you do.
God also would not term himself to be “we”.
Your god is the raging mob– and the raging mob is all the identity you have.

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

That is what is going on here the raging American mob is being incited toward a holocaust against Muslims. Americans have already been guilty of ethnic cleansing, perpetrated against Black people in the South during Jim Crow. You are now inciting each other to do the same against Muslims.

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  Amin

Sounds like a hell fire speech penned to fire up the murdering horde. Christians believe in the true God and we believe “non believers” like you go there. Jesus preached love and our prophets prophesisied the future. Your prophet espouses only hatred, murder, cruelty and unspeakable cruelty. Your God is satan whether you know it or not.

“As for me and my house we serve the Lord”

May God lead you away from this path to destruction you are on and may your eyes be opened to the one true God the God of love. Jesus IS the way.

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

correction:
“we believe “non believers” like you go to Hell.”

Jacob
Jacob
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

AmericanMe.DOSNT YOUR RELIGION SAY TO YOU (LOVE YOUR ENEMY)NOT KILLING THEM BY MILLIONS IN iRAQ AND aFGANISTAN AND pALESTINE??? its enough for you that you was the first nation who opened the hell of the nuclear era by throwing the first atomic bomb over horoshima HIPOCRITES !!!!!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

Why are you accusing US of bombing Hiroshima?
That’s pretty pointless and stupid. We’re not the Truman Admin.
Most of us weren’t even alive when it happened.
As for Afghanistan and Iraq? Part of something called the War on Terror, which will be fought much better within our own borders when more of the citizens who are not in uniform get involved.
Palestine? Not our problem.

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

President Truman was elected by you!!! You where the first terrorists in history !!! America was founded over the corpses of 8 milliones indians!!! you put afroamericans under slavery for hundreds of years hanging them on the trees burning their houses (Koklas clan) and you still till today oppressing them !!! hopocraties racists !!!!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

No. He wasn’t elected by ME.
In fact, he wasn’t elected at all. He had been Vice-President and took office when Roosevelt died.
Idiot.

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

eib:

Muslims were not alive for most holy wars and yet today we are being blamed and punished for them.

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

We bombed Hiroshima to stop the killing and that is just what it did. Never forget that we were attacked unprovoked by Japan on 12-7. We were not involved in WWII til the Japs bombed us! The Hiroshima bomb killed many but saved many, many more by ending the war. DO NOT forget that your hero Hitler was the one who first started working on a nuclear bomb we had to play catch up to get one first or we would have been nuked by your hero. Don’t try EVER to shame me about my country! You have your numbers seriously wrong by the way. How bout the zillion muslims killed by other Muslims in Iraq because they are a different Muslim sect? How about the women who lead such horrific lives under your pals the Taliban that they set themselves on fire/ How bout the women who the Taliban cut off their noses and ears? Nice guys your pals. Palestine is a tool used to fire people like you up and create hatred for the Israeli’s I explained this in an earlier post so I am not going thru it again. It really does not matter what we do or don’t do because you just make sh*t up as an excuse to commit heinous crimes and try to force your barbaric laws and way of life on us. Live as you choose but we are not gonna bow to your evil.

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  AmericanMe

eib. stupid….. President Truman was reelected , he won the elections in 1948,….((Harry S. Truman (May 8, 1884 – December 26, 1972) was the 33rd President of the United States (1945–1953). As President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s third vice-president and the 34th Vice President of the United States, he succeeded to the presidency on April 12, 1945, when President Roosevelt died less than three months after beginning his historic fourth term.

During World War I, Truman served as an artillery officer, making him the only president to have seen combat in World War I (his successor Eisenhower spent the war training tank crews in Pennsylvania). After the war he became part of the political machine of Tom Pendergast and was elected a county commissioner in Missouri and eventually a Democratic United States senator. After he gained national prominence as head of the wartime Truman Committee, Truman replaced vice president Henry A. Wallace as Roosevelt’s running mate in 1944.

Truman faced many challenges in domestic affairs. The disorderly postwar reconversion of the economy of the United States was marked by severe shortages, numerous strikes, and the passage of the Taft–Hartley Act over his veto. He confounded all predictions to WIN ELECTIONS IN 1948, helped by his famous Whistle Stop Tour of rural America. AFTER HIS ELECTION he was able to pass only one of the proposals in his Fair Deal program.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

What kind of god depicts the afterlife for it’s believers as one huge whorehouse for the believers to have sex in throughout eternity. Where’s the spirituality in that? At the same time your spouses will spend eternity in their tents (no pun intended this time), only allowed to have sex with their husbands. While at the same time always pointing out that sinners and non-muslims go to hell and get hot water poured down their throats for eternity. It is so obvious for every thinking and literate person that your “god” is actually satan himself. I perfectly understand why it is not so important in your countries to teach the main populace to read and write. Especially not the females. Because if they do they might start thinking for themselves and some actually do just that like Nonie Darwish and others. Which means they leave your heinous death cult. Can’t have that, can we? Btw, what other religion besides pislam has death penalty for apostasy? Can you tell us that?

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

My God is your God for their is only One God. 🙂

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Amin

Wait – I’m confused about the spelling. Coran; Koran; Quran; Qu’ran, Crayon, Crappan. What is it.

patriotmom32
patriotmom32
11 years ago
Reply to  New Crusader

I wouldn’t even capitalize it –

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  patriotmom32

I don’t capitalize mohammed, allah or islam. They simply don’t deserve it.

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

And who care about you !!!!! God said in people like you…((He whom GOD leadeth, he indeed is led aright, while he whom Allah sendeth astray – they indeed are losers. (178) Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle – nay, but they are worse! These are the neglectful)) the Holy Coran…God named you as a cattle and neglectful…..

Samir
Samir
11 years ago

Read Chalmers Johnson latest novel ((Dismantling the empire America’s last best hope)) he is predicting the collapse of America within ten years , people like you full of heat and bloodthirsty will cause the destruction of America, Chalmers says ((our continuose depending on the military force and the imperialist interventions in our relation with other countries to protect our imperialism will lead America soon or later in three catastrophice consequences: 1 – an empire that exceeded the boundaries 2- endless wares 3- a terrifying finance bandruptcy……. these three sins and the existance of malicious immoral people like you, will lead to the end of the american satanic empire …..((And when We would destroy a township We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, and afterward they commit abomination therein, and so the Word (of doom) hath effect for it, and we annihilate it with complete annihilation. (16) How many generations have We destroyed since Noah! And GOD sufficeth as Knower and Beholder of the sins of His slaves. (17) Whoso desireth that (life) which hasteneth away, We hasten for him therein that We will for whom We please. And afterward We have appointed for him hell; he will endure the heat thereof, condemned, rejected. (18) And whoso desireth the Hereafter and striveth for it with the effort necessary, being a believer; for such, their effort findeth favour (with their Lord). (19) Each do We supply, both these and those, from the bounty of thy Lord. And the bounty of thy Lord can never be walled up)) The holy Coran.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Samir

In your dreams, arselifter, in your dreams. You go fuck yourselves!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Samir

Quote:
Read Chalmers Johnson latest novel ((Dismantling the empire America’s last best hope)) he is predicting the collapse of America within ten years , end quote.

And what are you predicting?
It’s ultimate conquest?
Islam is spread by the sword.
It is still spread by the sword.
If you think Westerners will convert en masse, you’re wrong.
Islam has nothing for us.
Nothing for the West.
Islam is empty.
Your prophet is false.
Your god is the devil.
Your religion is profane.
Your culture has no roots here.

Hajar Logan
Hajar Logan
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

We share the same God…

Samir
Samir
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

You are wrong we never insult christians they are our friends and neighboures, since thousands of years,they lived with us with love and harmony until you attacks our countries, they are arabes like us.. in the army of the great Saladino were many arab christians had fought the aggressive attacks of the butchers crusdaders!!! you dont want to understand that !!! Islam is the only non christian faith that believe and glorify Jesus christ and his mother Mary (pease and blessing of God upon them)the holy Coran said about the christians…((And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! GOD hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation. (42) O Mary! Be obedient to thy Lord, prostrate thyself and bow with those who bow (in worship). (43) This is of the tidings of things hidden. We reveal it unto thee (Muhammad). Thou wast not present with them when they threw their pens (to know) which of them should be the guardian of Mary, nor wast thou present with them when they quarrelled (thereupon). (44) (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah). (45) He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous. (46) She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (47) And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel, (48) And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel))… and GOD said in another part(sura) of the holy Coran….(( And lo! of the People of the Scripture(christians and jews) there are some who believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto you and that which was revealed unto them, humbling themselves before GOD. They purchase not a trifling gain at the price of the revelations of GOD. Verily their reward is with their Lord. Lo! Allah is swift to take account. (199) O ye who believe! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to GOD, in order that ye may succeed.))

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Samir
You are murdering Christians in horrific ways all over the Middle East. You burn them alive in Pakistan and Egypt just for being Christians,You murder them in their homes, vhurches and places of business in Iraq just for being Christians. you are targeting Christians all over the ME. So blow it out your ear. These ME Christians have done nothing to you blood thirsty savages.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  Hajar Logan

The christian god is not a moon deity but your allah is. More lies.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Samir

The martyrs of Mozarabia were innocent. Your corrupt authorities killed them.
Never forget that.
I haven’t.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Samir

Thay Thamir: do you haveth microthephaly? Jutht athking

AmericanMe
AmericanMe
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Here we go again second verse same song. We were attacked unprovoked on 12-7-1942 by the Japs. we finally dropped the bomb to end the war and ultimately save lives. Your hero hitler was the omne who started the research to create the bomb and we had to catch up to keep from being the ones who were nuked by your hero. So blow it out your ear Samir?jacob whatever name you are using today.

As for slavery, well Medina was and is the biggest slave market in the world. Muslim Arabs rounded up and sold us those slaves. Unlike you muslims we Christians started the Abolitionist movement and ended slavery. My ancestor was in that movement. You to this day have slaves. a recent case in the UK a Saudi Prince was convicted of killing one of his slaves in an elevator in a hotel in the UK. How bout Darfur and Maritania. You guys are slave holders there right now this minute. You have ABSOLUTELY NO MORAL HIGH GROUND! Quoting from the koran is meaningless to me as I am a Christian

“as for me and my family we serve the Lord”
I pray for you to open your eyes and see that Jesus IS THE WAY”

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago

To Jacop; Amin; Amir; Hajar; Lala and all the rest of you towel heads out there is lala land. You are all to willing to bring death and destruction to others, and that is all your history shows. You are even willing to accept responsibility for death and destruction before MooHamMad (npiih). That is all you have had to offer throughout time. Your words are empty lies, your (Hideous) Qur’an is demonic, and your action are death and hell. Then you want to claim peace???? You truly are demented. If there were any peace or love in your pathetic lives at all – none of this would be going on. You truly do take the prize for being the worst on the planet. Hopefully there are no more planets out there with things like you on them.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago
Reply to  New Crusader

But they would be more than happy to spread jihad to the final frontier if we give them the chance. Of course they will never take on the final frontiere without our help though. But they would have no qualms about forcingly convert or exterminate other species out there. They would be as much kuffar as we are now.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Robin Shadowes

Islam seems to focus on the extermination of all life; spiritual or physical. Nothing but hate seems to come from this group of people.

Robin Shadowes
11 years ago

Did the arselifter run away with his tail between his legs? How unusual…

eib
eib
11 years ago

I’m rather surprised that those among us who love Western Civilization have not yet managed to create Latin Grammar Schools.

eib
eib
11 years ago

I don’t want Gardens of Delight.
I want the spiritual kingdom of Christ.
He said his kingdom was not of this world.
Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
There is no spirituality in judgment, in the next life in Islam. Everything is framed in terms of the experience on Earth. This is one of Islam’s errors.

Amin
Amin
11 years ago

You are omitings my coments and any coments containing verses from the Holy Coran fearing from the truth and the clear evidences in it and afraid that some vieweres will be touched with the divne words of God,you are afraid to hear the other point of view , you want only to gather in this Bloge all the malicious, hatful of Islam.

Jacob
Jacob
11 years ago

The arselifters muslims in Qater won the competition to host 2022 world cup and America out!!!!! congratulation for the qateris people and I advice admn.,eib, Robin shadows and the new crusaders and the whole insane band on this Bloge. not to go to Qater even not to watch the world cup on TV.!!!!!!!

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

More veiled death threats from the religion of peace?

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

Hey Jacob! Maybe you can use this world cup to do something right in your own fashion. Go get that “peaceful” leader of yours, Osama butt lifter and sacrifice him in front of the crowd like he advocates his pathetic followers to do. Burn him alive, cut off his head, and hang his burn corpse up for all to see on Al-jazeera. Then have the crowd shout “Death to Islam”. No? Can’t do that?

fernando
fernando
11 years ago

Newcrusader, my God how can you live with this much of hate??!!!! you seems to be a ex-butcher or a hollywood producer, you have a wide movie imagination !!!! I just want to know what the relaction between Osama and the world cup?? !!!!!really you are insane!!!!

fernando
fernando
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Before you quote what I said, check who started it all!!! didn’t you remember calling one of your muslims viewers ((sharmuta of Bablyon))!!!… and using multiple names is not a excuse for banning me,you can banne me for what I am writting….if you argue with me with politeness I will reply you with the same way but you and your band in this Bloge you cannot stop insulting and despising others religions and cultures… this is arrogance and scorning others… banning me is a cowrdness and shows your incapablity to debate me against your lies and allegationes toward Islam….

New Cursader
New Cursader
11 years ago
Reply to  fernando

Fernando/Jamil,

You would never bring your own butchers to justice even in your own way. Before you lecture anyone else on who they are and what they do, It would be nice to see you and your kin take some responsible action of your own.

How many more years will go by before the “peace loving” muslim world will take some real constructive action against the hate mongers of islam. The days of freedom for Osama butt lifter and the hate spewing imams should have been counted in single digit days; if there was any truth to the claims of peace in the muslim world. You have yet, with few exceptions, to really give this world some peace by arresting the development of your religion of hate. When you read the pain that comes through the people posting on this blog – you should feel utterly ashamed.

Disparaging people like Robin Shadows after what has been done (and continues to be done) in Sweden is hideous, but you seem to know no shame and your imams support this through their teachings. You somehow think you can mask this but everyday brings more death from muslim “extremist”. Maybe the question is better asked of you: “How can you live with so much hate?”

Amin
Amin
11 years ago

To Amin,

Since you will not respect the rules here, I will delete everyone of your comments in the future.

Chris

Alfonso
Alfonso
11 years ago

Comment deleted because “Jamil” here cannot stop himself from posting under multiple names.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Alfonso

English is not your first language, is it?

Alfonso
Alfonso
11 years ago
Reply to  eib

Comment deleted, because once again this is “Jamil”.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Alfonso

Quote:
come her for a vist to cario, Beurit, Amman ,Dubai you will find all the peace and hospitality and love and these countries are not different than any europian city… end quote.

It’s also obvious that though you are of Spanish descent, you are also a Muslim. This means that when you go to Cairo, Dubai, Damascus, or Baghdad, you are going to the ummah. When you live in these places, you live within the ummah. It is certainly no wonder in this case that they are hospitable to you.
But are Christians at home in Baghdad or Mosul? How about Copts in Cairo or Alexandria?
How about the Patriarch in Istanbul?
How do you think he feels knowing that several of his predecessors were beheaded by Ottoman authorities?

Quote:
forget about this insane Osama Ibn laden… he is one of milliones and nobody love him her because he deformed the beautiful face of Islam
end quote.

I’ve often said that Mr. Bin Laden would have served his community better as a poet.
Still, his bad choices were done in the name of Islam and for what he believed was the sake of the ummah.
It is one thing to insult what he did, it’s another thing to take the case for terrorism apart piece by piece and to prove that the content of Islam is actually not violent.

Quote:
like what they did your soldiers in Abu Ghrab prison in Iraq…
end quote.

I’m not going to defend the indefensible here.
The Geneva Conventions regulate the treatment of prisoners of war, and captives taken in occupation.
They were not followed.
And because they were not followed, that opens the door to all sorts of atrocities should Muslims fight us openly in our own streets.
A lunatic called Cheney opened this door, and now we’re all forced to go through it.
I did not approve of the use of torture, nor of the procedures at any of the black sites.

New Crusader
New Crusader
11 years ago
Reply to  Alfonso

Alfonso,

Did you read in the paper today about U.S. soldiers being prosecuted by the U.S. for war crimes? Wouldn’t it be nice if we were also reading about how the muslim believers had captured and prosecuted Osama butt lifter and punished him for his crimes? How muslims were holding their vitriolic imams accountable for their hate and disgracing them out of their positions because they did not represent the peace of islam? How muslims are respecting the rights of other nations and nationalities with co-operation and tolerance? How muslims are respecting the well being of women instead of burying them alive? Wouldn’t it be nice if we didn’t have 1400 years of headlines about honor killings? About how children can’t feel free to live at home and not have to protect their lives from murderous parents? About massacres, beheadings, stonings, suicide bombings, live burnings, and muslim aggressions. Maybe if these things were prosecuted in islam there would not be a need for a military presence in the Mid East. Just maybe if muslims were really that peaceful, and responsible, they would have jailed all their thugs instead of giving them a place or authority in their society. Just maybe then the newspapers wouldn’t have any of this to report because it just would not exist. But because islam is not peaceful but promotes violence; and muslim believers are neither peaceful or responsible, there is a lot to report. Death, rape, stonings, beheadings, burnings, body bombings, massacres, beatings, persecutions, honor killings, political unrest, riots, dishonoring of all kinds, all of this and more and not just in muslim countries; but by muslims all over the world. And all the time the qur’aan is being quoted and spewed out as justification. By your own confession, you have identified you “religion” as the source of your murderous behavior. No matter what else anyone does you still have these things to account for. You also claim to honor Jesus Christ, maybe you should ask yourself who the real war maker is? Could it be that islam got it’s bad behavior from MooHamMad? Nah! Just ask those Jews in Madina who “eventually surrendered and all the men, apart from a few who converted to Islam, were beheaded, while the women and children were enslaved.” Happy reading Alfonso

Darrick Trucco
11 years ago

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Brainiac
Brainiac
11 years ago

I don’t mean to greatly offend many of you however i’d like to point out how ignorant and biased this is and especially to you commentors. It was the Christians who lead inquisitions while muslims flourished. The European barbarians would busily create torture tools to force people to confess untrue things and burn them at the stake in the name of Christianity. The Muslims however expanded greatly and those under their rule experienced the greatest freedoms. Scientists, astronomers, mathimaticians and great poets came from the muslims while the Christians were too dumb enough to continue believing things proven wrong only since the pope was supposed to be always right. Maybe your schooling was terribly flawed that you learned absolutely nothing about world history except for the biased and rascist bullshit that was taught by equally ignorant teachers. The muslims today are being viewed the same as communists in the cold war and most western countries nowadays preach freedom and equality but then breed hate and oppresion. Americans are too lazy to research but rather believe the false facts given by the media. If you took algebra you should know it was improved by a muslim scholar. Thinking every Muslim is a danger would be similar as believing americans to be stupid,obese and ignorant.

I especially enjoy the fact that he quotes a dictator, Shia dictator( not that it matters though in this circumstance it does), to “explain” islam. Now you may proceed to call me a Muslim or anti american to circumvate my entire arguement or retort idiotically as most ignorant bigots as some tend to do but expect no reply for I have placed a piece of my mind which suits me fine.

Brainiac
Brainiac
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

Well…So much for the freedom of speech eh? Well lets just leave that behind and argue like respectable people since i now have your attention. If we do this civilized i’ll be sure to remain “civil”.

Do you know what Islam means?
Do you know what muslim means?
Do you know what Jihad really means?

1-Islam means peace in arabic
2-Muslim means complete submission to god
3-Jihad is a struggle against evil,not necessarily against physical ones but inner evils from your soul. The other version is constantly abused by a bunch of drugged up baboons in afghanistan who think they’re all so religious.

The fact is that Islam does not require a link to any person except for god. Cultures tend to mix with religion and it is true that most countries in the middle east are terribly backwards. I for one hope that the Saudi king is overthrown and jailed for helping Islam be shown in a bad light and i wish the same fate or worse for all others who think that Islam is a weapon that can be “used” to inspire people to do things in that name. Just as Christianity was used as a ruse for purging any threat to the power of the church and monarchy of the kingdom in which an inquisition occurs in.

First and foremost,Any muslim who kills another muslim or even another human being is viewed as killing all of humanity so if you believe in an after-life,expect them to burn in hell for all eternity. Suicide is a big no-no which is punished by eternity in hell. The Prophet(Prophet Muhammad[P.B.U.H]) even stated that anyone who commits such heinous crimes is not “among them” meaning they are no longer a muslim.

If you wish i will gladly discuss this with anyone who wants to learn more if you simply send an email to this email for more info as what i have to say is quite long and would lead us “off-topic”. I am mostly unbiased so don’t expect some one sided bullshit.

I know i’ve came on quite hard with my 3 comments but they are what i like to call “test markers” to figure out how serious people really are about the topic to be worth my time. If you will gladly read everything i inform you of and reply(i’d love a reply but a humane one) then i shall gladly speak with you.

Admin…Whoever you are,
I would like if you were to contact this email to give confirmation that you would gladly like to discuss Islam with great maturity and intellect. I will not forecfully attempt to push my opinions on you as it is of course a futile attempt to do so.

I would also like to apologize if my comments were of offense/nuisance/annoyance/absurdness/stupidty to anyone.

If you don’t contact me via this emial,i will be forced to contact you via your email(please don’t torture me?):

I am dead serious here.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  admin

There is no peace is Islam.
There is only submission, suffering and then more submission.
Rape.
Mass Murder.
Torture.
Summary imprisonment.
Whoring out of non-Muslim women.
NO PEACE IN ISLAM.
NO PEACE FOR MUSLIMS!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Brainiac

Quote:
Admin…Whoever you are,
I would like if you were to contact this email to give confirmation that you would gladly like to discuss Islam with great maturity and intellect
end

And, I’m sure, with GREAT DEVOTION!
Your submission is irrational.
The basis of your desire is irrational. You demand submission!
That is all there is to you!

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Brainiac

The Admin doesn’t have to say one word to you.
He need not explain himself.
Not to anyone.
You have no authority here or elsewhere.
You are an arrogant shit.

Brainiac
Brainiac
11 years ago

Well. Ignore me then. If you maybe studied history a bit more in-depth you’d know that the muslims were in a war with those who wanted to eradicate them and these scriptures came down during these times. Unlike the Bible,the Quran was never modified thus as time passed it remained the same but it was up to the people to correctly translate and find the meaning for the time they are in.

People simply take the short route and immediately distort history and completely ignore this fact and attempt to use the surface meaning to argue.

I tried to be respectful here by asking and apologizing but it seems like the problem is in you rather then me. Thanks for confirming this and due to that i will no longer comment here when the “admin” is a radical just like the people he attempts to denounce. You and the radical terrorists have no difference. You’re simply trying to fight fire with fire and not realizing this and when someone wants to calmly speak you simply suppress them.

“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”-Benjamin Franklin.

eib
eib
11 years ago
Reply to  Brainiac

Quote:
Unlike the Bible,the Quran was never modified thus as time passed it remained the same but it was up to the people to correctly translate and find the meaning for the time they are in.
end

The Muslim scriptures validate the Christian and Jewish scriptures.
They do not tell you that they are lies outright.
It is your tradition of Arab paganism that tells you to distrust the Bible and Tanakh.
It is also more evidence that Islam is nothing more than an Arab pagan religion.
Certainly not Abrahamic monotheism.

eib
eib
11 years ago

Franklin was not a Muslim.

emmi
emmi
11 years ago

Wrong information as usual, Brainiac.

Muslims did thrive while others struggled to survive because Muslims invaded European countries stating that they were only going to ‘help’ the people by looking after their wealth and property.
Muslims had more barbaric tortures than the inquisition. Read ‘White Gold’. It’s about Muslims raiding peaceful English coastal towns, putting the captives into slavery and torturing those who would not convert to Islam.
Muslims did not supply all those marvellous inventions you mention. They took ideas from every country they invaded and claimed that Muslims invented it all. Those who only want to fight cannot possibly be creative.

emmi
emmi
11 years ago

I fully support admin’s comments that Muslims have been trying to take over for 1400 years.
They continue to do this wherever they go.
“Islam is a revolutionary doctrine and system that overthrows governments. It seeks to overturn the whole universal social order”. Spoken by Abul Ala Mawdudi, Islamist idealoogue and founder of Jamat-e-Islami, whose works are enthusiastically preached and followed in Tower Hamlets, London, UK. Jamat is known for taking over whole towns very quickly.
Nothing like a few stones and knives in one’s pocket to hasten the takeover by silencing free speech. Oh and don’t forget the bottles of bleach to throw at the unarmed police, many of whom are grey haired.

emmi
emmi
11 years ago

Hm, so El-Ber Islamic School forces children to write with the right hand and to eat what is good for them. The latter being plenty of halal meat cruelly produced by torturing animals.
Many gifted people are left handed and they should be able to choose which hand they use otherwise severe problems such as stammering can occur.
Forcing little girls to wear the hijab is cruel, particularly in hot weather. As for teaching them to ‘love’ the hijab, what sort of loony teaches a child to love a bit of cloth?
But hey don’t let worrying about child abuse get in the way of a good religion.

Sheila
Sheila
10 years ago

So much hatred you all have!! It’s so sad, no wonder there are wars going on because of insane sick people like you guys.. Well I will answer as much as I can.. First of all, I am a Muslim but I do not cover.. Allah swt has given a choice to choose if we want to do something or not that includes wearing hijab and what you want to believe in. No one is forced to believe in any religion instead taught to respect all religions especially Christianity for most of our believes are the same as well as we both believe in Jesus though you see him as the son of God and we see him as our Prophet. It is my job as a Muslim to present Islam to my child and make him understand about our beautiful religion and answer any questions he or she may have.. But of course it’s entirely up to them what they want to believe because in our religion we do not force someone to believe, pray or do anything they don’t want to. Yes in our belief it’s that those who do not believe will answer to God. Nor I speak for you nor you speak for me. We all speak for ourselves and get judged by our deeds. As for when you guys find interpretations of the Koran saying to punish one who doesn’t believe.. Well, those are the extremists. Ones that Truelly are not Muslims for we are not God to judge. Only God can judge!! We are not even allowed to accuse or call someone names. Even if we see someone doing wrong, we shouldn’t say mean things because only God can deal with them. There are many things that have been interpretted wrong and that’s what has been giving our religion a bad name.. And the administrator had been asking about if a Muslim would give there daughter at 6 to anyone.. No way!! I as a Muslim mother am fully against that and that’s not written in our Koran.. Whoever said that is wrong and whoever said that Prophet Mohammad married a 6 year old is wrong.. He got engaged to a 14 year old and married her at 16. She was not forced but she wanted to.. Honestly nowadays that happens here ion the US. A young student marries or has an affair with a teacher. It’s everyone’s own doings and we are not to judge. So if prophet Mohammad’s wife wanted to marry him, well good for.. Live happily!! I as a American Muslim believe that nothing can be forced especially not in this day in age.. I have been in the US all my life and consider myself a part of this country.. As well my husband is serving in the Army.. So for you who believe Muslims are wrong, you have to realize that there is good and bad in all people and religions. Unfortunately in this day in age, there is many bad on both ends. I believe if the good work together and get this hatred out between us and live with our own beliefs, we all will have peace. I would love to have a Christian or catholic etc become Muslim but if they don’t, I still love them for me are all Gods creation. I don’t want harm on any person of any religion. That’s what our religion teaches and it’s sad to see many don’t see that. One of our really close friends is a pastor.. This guy would bend over backwards for us and so we will for him for we have that understanding. I pray that you all realize that as well Muslim and nonmuslim as well. God bless!!

eib
eib
10 years ago
Reply to  Sheila

Quote:
I don’t want harm on any person of any religion.
end

Your perfectly false prophet would destroy us.
He was a conqueror, a person who gloried in human sacrifice to his demon.

Sheila
Sheila
10 years ago

I don’t need to prove anything to you.. Who are you and who do you think of yourself? Your this gutless person sitting at home behind a computer talking thrash like the rest.. Go believe what you want.. If you really believed in your words, you would go debate in front of media and with Muslim scholars who would give you proof.. So instead of wasting your life here behind a computer, go do something useful.. You will get your every question answered.. But you need to know, America is land of the free so get over yourself.. You can write whatever you want, I’m no longer coming here to read your garbage..

eib
eib
10 years ago

The Bible is my proof.
You have a prophet.
I have a savior.
I will die happy, dreading nothing, because salvation is from the Jews, and Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
I cannot say the same for Mohammad, nor can I say the same for YOU.