Islam 101: Lying is Permissible

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While the Islam is a religion of peace falsehood continues to spread across the world, the truth is that Islam allows lying, rape, and what non-Muslims would consider murder. There is nothing peaceful about these actions, and I will prove my claims in a three part series.

PART I: Islam allows lying.

By Christopher Logan

I have stated over and over that Islam is a bunch of double talk. It is true that some verses of the Koran and aHadith speak out against lying.

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YUSUFALI: In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).

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YUSUFALI: Woe to the falsehood-mongers,-

From the Hadith

Book 032, Number 6309:

‘Abdullah reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: It is obligatory for you to tell the truth, for truth leads to virtue and virtue leads to Paradise, and the man who continues to speak the truth and endeavours to tell the truth is eventually recorded as truthful with Allah, and beware of telling of a lie for telling of a lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell-Fire, and the person who keeps telling lies and endeavours to tell a lie is recorded as a liar with Allah.

These condemnations are only against certain types of lies though.

Here the Koran allows Muslims to lie in a way that can easily mean to hide their pro-Sharia agenda from non-Muslims.

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YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.

The Hadith tells us that lying in OK in three other circumstances.

Book 032, Number 6303:

Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

Finally these types of permissible lies are reinforced in Islamic Law.

“Reliance of the Traveller, A Classical Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”

HOLDING ONE’S TONGUE CHAPTER

PERMISSIBLE LYING

r8.2 The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,

“He who settles disagreements between people to bring about good or says something commendable is not a liar.”

“I did not hear him permit untruth in anything people say, except for three things: war, settling disagreements, and a man talking with his wife or she with him (A: in smoothing over differences).”.

This ruling obviously leaves the door open for all types of lies.

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245 comments for “Islam 101: Lying is Permissible

  1. Robin Shadowes
    December 16, 2009 at 12:38 am

    It is important to teach every non-muslim the muslim concepts of taqyyia and kitman. Thus they will learn not to trust a muslim – not ever.

    • Sal
      September 4, 2010 at 12:35 am

      Robin; let me enlighten you for a moment. Taqiya is a Shia Concept used vis a vis the sunni majority. and the shia are a minority in the muslim faith. So you are misunderestanding the concept and using it wrongfully and claiming to know when you yourself lack knowledge.
      Stop spreading misinformation. It seems that people like you are all over the airwaves on Fox, CNN, Using big words to sound like experts but in truth know very little or there to push an agenda.

      But Like it or Don’t the truth always prevail no matter how much people try to suppress it.
      People like you existed for 14 centuries and tried to harm Islam and the muslims but Islam always prevailed. No wonder it is the fastest growing religion.
      The CIA perpetrated 9/11 to hurt Islam, but more people converted to Islam by conviction more than anytime before.
      The Truth will prevail. Remember that.

      • September 4, 2010 at 12:42 am

        Your comment reeks of takiya. Try fooling somebody else. Your truther nonsense won’t work here either.

        • Hajar Logan
          December 2, 2010 at 10:07 am

          Takiyah-means pious, righteous and chaste. Also Kitman is an unrecognizeable transliteration for a concept that does not sound plausible.

          • admin
            December 2, 2010 at 12:18 pm

            Islam allows what non-Muslims consider to be lying. This is proven in the article.

            If you make one more comment without a backup source, you are banned. I am done going around in circles with you.

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 12:31 am

            So if a husband and wife were fighting you would not lie and say the other one said sorry to help them patch up cuz seriously if you call that lying then yh. It is permissible to lie if you consider that bad you have no heart

          • admin
            March 15, 2011 at 7:24 am

            No, I would’t lie. Thanks for admitting Islam allows lying.

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 11:15 pm

            So Say. If your parents got in a fight you wouldn’t just make up the fact that your mum said sorry and go say it to your dad? You wouldn’t lie to help them save their marriage

      • admin
        September 4, 2010 at 11:41 am

        The Koran itself encourages ALL Muslims to lie, and that is backed up by these Sunni scholars.

        https://loganswarning.com/2009/12/15/islam-101-lying-is-permissible/

        Your blatant attempts to misinform the readers have failed, and I have seen more than enough of your games and attitude.
        BTW, you have backed nothing you say up with sources. Good bye.

      • Indus
        September 24, 2010 at 2:02 am

        You are right, islam is the fastest growing religion but that is due to uncontrolled mass breeding. One more thing, quality will always prevail over quantity in the end, non-muslims will always prevail over the mohamedans

        • September 24, 2010 at 2:24 am

          With all their inbreeding, they only have a few more generations to go before they are doomed.

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 10:43 pm

            Well let’s just see about that and it is not only the breeding there are several christians converting every da

    • November 11, 2010 at 8:55 pm

      Please dont talk about Islam in lies when you yourself have no knowledge of it. Dont you ever spred lies about the Holy Quran for it is the truth from ALLAH(SWT). He know everything that is in the heart of man and all praise belong to him. You are getting your info from false sources. Sunni scholors are misleading people and not informing people of the truth. Try researching on Shia Scolors. And I dont know where you got your information from but if is fales. Being shia means that you are a follower of someone. Primarly The holy Prophet Muhammad and his family(PBUT). If you really study the life and know about these wonderful people you may come to know what is truth.

      • November 11, 2010 at 9:27 pm

        pislam is nothing but lies. Mahound was a psychopath and professional liar. Anyone who believes his lies is a fool.

        • November 11, 2010 at 11:24 pm

          You are wrong to say that. I do not agree with you. The only time lying is ok is when you stop lie to stop someone from causing harm to themselves or others. Other than that Lying sinful. How dare you say that about our dear Prophet(SWT). You have knowledge. You posses no threat to me or to the religion of islam. Islam will always stay alive no matter how how much harm you people try to do. You may make your plans but please belive that Allah’s (SWT) plans will always be enforced. Your only fooling yourself and harming your own soul. Nobody can destroy the religion of ISLAM it will always be alive no matter what. As a muslim I will take a stand and defend my religion and I dont fear anyone expect for Allah..

          • November 11, 2010 at 11:25 pm

            I meant to say you have no knowledge so dont run your mouth.

          • November 12, 2010 at 12:55 am

            Mahound’s psychopathic koran is nothing but lies. And all his followers are idiots.

            And who are you to tell me what I should and shouldn’t say? Go back to drinking your camel urine. You are as retarded as any arselifter.

          • Freedom
            November 28, 2010 at 2:45 am

            Your mohamed prophet was a mass murder who personally beheaded 600-900 jews and severed the hands and feet of many more. He was a psychopathic butchering warlord. He only talked peace before he gained his power when he was forced to live with other religions. Once he raised his zealot army he showed his true colors. How many people did Jesus kill? How many enemies did he bring harm to? NONE! Your religion is EVIL and your primary mentor of your faith, the most evil of all.

          • eib
            November 28, 2010 at 9:14 am

            Quote:
            You posses no threat to me or to the religion of islam. end quote.

            Right you are.
            What concerns us is the threat Islam posts to the West.
            Period.

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 12:34 am

            Leah
            Seriously your the only knowledgeable one here and I totally agree with you

          • Acts2:38
            July 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

            Actually, Leah, from what I’ve noticed my God’s plans (BTW who is Jesus) have been coming through get a Holy Bible, and read through the prophetic books, and see whose God’s plans are coming to pass.

            http://www.raptureforums.com/ClarenceLarkin/index.cfm

            Check out this website 😀

          • admin
            July 29, 2011 at 8:33 am

            Welcome to the site Acts 2:38!

      • Herda
        March 15, 2011 at 5:37 am

        If you really study these people? You’re kidding aren’t you?

        Mohammed MHRIH* was a pedophile who married a six year old girl and boasted that he didn’t have intercourse with her until she was nine. In the meantime though, he sodomized, thighed and molested her. From when she was six! She even had to clean his semen off the front of his robe before he performed wudu. A six year old child. The semen was on there from his molestation of her.
        You stupid woman. It’s in your satanic hadiths.
        Mohammed MHRIH* was a filth bag.

        *MHRIH (may he rot in hell)

        • IslamLover
          March 15, 2011 at 12:04 pm

          First of all if you were there at that time many men got married to girls who were nine because they were mature and it had Aisha ra consent in the marriage and if you’ve read this Hadith you must have read the ones stating how much Aisha loved the prophet and vice versatile right?

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 10:57 pm

            Versatile=Versaz

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 10:57 pm

            Versa#r

    • July 22, 2011 at 1:10 pm

      The best place to see this is here , it shows verses from the Koran and Hadith, and others

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm

  2. December 17, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Islam=peace just might be the most successful lie of all time. Bush hurt us by constantly repeating it.

    • Ben
      December 17, 2009 at 4:24 am

      'Great religion of peace' is no worse than 'distorted and defiled', which Obamination spewed again at Oslo. Queen Hellary managed to pack three big lies into one sentence at Georgetown the other day.

      • December 17, 2009 at 4:38 am

        'Distorted', that is Islamic con man talk.

        • Ben
          December 17, 2009 at 5:26 am

          Of cuss, he is both a 'slime and a con man.

    • GavyJayKhan
      April 28, 2010 at 5:09 pm

      What do you expect GW Bush is a Freemason. Most high level Muslims are Masons. Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a 33rd degree Mason.

  3. December 17, 2009 at 3:10 am

    You are all so accurate in you statements.
    Christopher L. puts it best, calling it the Trojan horse to the West.
    Again, unless you all have seen it, please view the video at Google
    entitled: demographic_problem. It contains a bit of propanda, but is
    basically quite disturbing.

  4. December 17, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Arafat = One Big Lie
    Palastine = lying re "peace" with Israel
    Islam in America = perpetual lying for advancement, infiltration
    Islam = Peace, the ultimate lie to lull us into inattention

    "O" Another Big Lie?….

    • IslamLover
      March 15, 2011 at 12:39 am

      First of all I’d like to say Palestine is ours was ours and we will get it back you forced us out of it and killed what billions of us in the doing so that is not terrorism you came into Pakistan and India killed billions of us again for what reason? That’s not terrorism then you came into Afghanistan killed thousands of innocent people but no that’s not terrorism you were just getting rid of it by watt killing innocent civilians and then do u want me to go on cuz I can iraq Lebanon e.t.c

      • Herda
        March 15, 2011 at 5:28 am

        Palestine does not belong to the Muslims.
        Never did.
        Get your facts right…..oh wait, even if you do, you’re still going to lie about it, because that’s what you’re taught to do.

        • IslamLover
          March 15, 2011 at 10:00 am

          Haha you’re so funny but seriously the day we get palistine back just remember me and Palestine was so yours that’s why wen the Jews took over they kicked millions of Muslims out of there and look where their living now seriously Israel bombs them whenever they feel like it but that’s okay isn’t it and please tell me what reason they could have for killing these people

  5. Ivangrozny
    December 18, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Thanks for existing, we need a group, akin to the England United or whatever theyre called, to hit the streets, in a moments notice to fight one thing:creeping sharia, if it means being beat up, well, they can try. Hindus, Buddhists, Christians , socialists,communists,secularists, Jews, whomever, if you are against Islam, lets join together, where it counts: on the streets of NYC, at the UN, at the SA embassy, at Ground Zero, at the courthouse.

    • December 18, 2009 at 8:51 am

      Thanks, they are the EDL, English Defense League and I agree one of the next steps should be to step into public view with our message.

      Happy holidays to you and your family!

  6. muslim
    January 13, 2010 at 10:14 am

    you are a lier and you do not know any thing about islam

    • January 13, 2010 at 5:46 pm

      The quotes in the article are from the Islamic scriptures. So prove me wrong.

    • Dan
      July 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

      MUSLIM You are a brainwashed follower of an EVIL CULT!

  7. muslim
    January 13, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Islam faced each Alhkadin over the centuries and will continue until doomsday
    And you have to know Islam well and then talk about
    Islam does not insult the prophets, but commands us to believe all of them

    • January 13, 2010 at 5:47 pm

      Islam insults Jesus, as under Islam he is supposed to come back as a Muslim and destroy Christianity.

      • Jay
        May 13, 2010 at 11:10 am

        No, he is not. He is supposed to return as a man, and yes, a Muslim because Mohammad [s.a.w] was the final messenger and therefore Jesus [a.s] will be in his ummat. Jesus will return to fight the Dajjal. Dajjal will insult every religion by claiming to be God, he will not be Christian, so don't even go there.

        There are a lot of errors on your website, heck, I don't think you've got anything right.

        • May 13, 2010 at 12:00 pm

          Takiya alert!

        • May 14, 2010 at 8:05 pm

          Point out where I stated that the Dajjal is Christian.
          But according to the Islamic scriptures, Jesus will come back and destroy Christianity.

          Book 37, Number 4310:
          Narrated AbuHurayrah:

          The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

          Heck, you are wrong again.

        • Herda
          March 15, 2011 at 5:17 am

          Sorry, the Son of God is not a man.
          He certainly is not affiliated with a desert moon god of the Bedu.

          Jesus Christ is the living Word of God, and sorry to pop your balloon, but He wins.
          There’s nothing you or any of your cult can do about it. You can scream your heads off, you can cut ours off, but nothing will change the fact that we win and you lose.

          • Dan
            July 22, 2011 at 12:27 pm

            Amen

      • IslamLover
        March 15, 2011 at 11:02 pm

        He (as) is supposed to come back yh and yh he will be from the ummah of rasulullah saw but he will not destroy Christianity first he will preach the truth saying that he is NOT the son of god and. If you refuse that then yh he’ll help the Muslims in the last battle which yes will be against the Jews and christians

  8. June 21, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    anyone watching Nadal Hussien should see these Maggots should not EVER be trusted, he waited and waited till just the right time to do as much damage and kill and wound as many people as he could, people who helped him,worked with him Daily, only to end up dead….Americans….WAKE Up. or you’ll be a victim just like the others…

    • Herda
      March 15, 2011 at 5:24 am

      Islam permits lying and Satan is the father of lies.
      Satan begat Islam.

      Logic.

      • IslamLover
        March 15, 2011 at 11:10 am

        Well shaytaan got kicked out of paradise for being ignorant and you guys are also being ignorant and if you actually read the quran if you lie except in certain cases you are a hypocrite and hypocrites go to he’ll so there

        • eib
          March 15, 2011 at 11:42 am

          Ye shall judge them by their fruits.
          And we do judge you.
          As you have judged us for 1,400 years!

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 12:07 pm

            We have never ever judged a none muslim seriously all I’m trying to say is if you thought about it maybe you’d understand why would Muhammad (saw) be mentioned in the Torah and the bible if he was false?

  9. August 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Part one for people who are not Muslim, and like to do evil deeds, or the Christian

  10. August 27, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    part two for Muslims who do not speak the truth

  11. August 27, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    do not change the meaning of the Koran, because they will change the actual meaning

  12. August 27, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    dan jangan kutuk muslim

  13. August 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    State of Afghanistan attacked America first. Before Afghanistan is a peaceful country

  14. August 27, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    American State which first invaded Afghanistan. Before Afghanistan is a peaceful country

    • admin
      August 28, 2010 at 4:21 am

      Right, the Taliban are such peaceful people.

      • IslamLover
        March 15, 2011 at 11:12 am

        So all of afganistan are terrorists yh? There are probably 30 odd people there who are terrorists but yet you kill thousands

        • admin
          March 15, 2011 at 12:03 pm

          Point out where I said all of them are terrorists.

          • IslamLover
            March 15, 2011 at 12:09 pm

            Well did you not just refer to afganistan as being the country where the Taliban is?

    • eib
      March 15, 2011 at 11:43 am

      LIES, Truth.
      I suppose you forgot about the Soviet invasion of 1979.

    • Dan
      July 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm

      Peaceful Country?? And you dare call yourself the truth??? I guess the pictures and video’s of the taliban executing people on the soccer fields BEFORE the US invaded Afghanistan were just an illusion? The stonings, never happened until the US invaded right? There has NEVER been peace in the world of islam. It has simply been 1,400 years of Rape, Murder and robbery by an EVIL CULT!

  15. jimmy
    September 10, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Qur’an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

    “Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people…They desire nothing but your ruin….You believe in the entire Book…When they meet you they say: ‘We, too, are bel…ievers.’ But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage.” (Surah 3:118, 119)

    “The Jews and Christians say: ‘We are the children of God and His loved ones.’ Say: ‘Why then does He punish you for your sins?” (Surah 5:18)

    “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)

    “The God will say: ‘Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind ‘Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?’ ‘Glory to You, ‘he will answer, ‘how could I ever say that to which I have no right?” (Surah 5:114-)

    “Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons…he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home…” (Surah 8:12-)

    “Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.” (Surah 8:36-)

    “…make war on the leaders of unbelief…Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them…” (Surah 9:12-)

    “Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.” (Surah 9:27-)

    “It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it.” (Surah 9:31-)

    “Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home.” (Surah 9:73)

    “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” (Surah 9:121-)

    “Say: ‘Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom…” (Surah 17:111)

    “‘How shall I bear a child,’ she [Mary] answered, ‘when I am a virgin…?’ ‘Such is the will of the Lord,’ he replied. ‘That is no difficult thing for Him…God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!…Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood…” (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)

    “Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” (Surah 48:29)See More

    • IslamLover
      March 15, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      Narrated ‘Amr bin Al-‘As:
      I heard the Prophet saying openly not secretly, “The family of Abu so-and-so (i.e. Talib) are not among my protectors.” ‘Amr said that there was a blank space (1) in the Book of Muhammad bin Ja’far. He added, “My Protector is Allah and the righteous believing people.” ‘Amr bin Al-‘As added: I heard the Prophet saying, ‘But they (that family) have kinship (Rahm) with me and I will be good and dutiful to them. ”
      This proves Islam tells us to be good with all people if he’s Muslim or not
      Narrated ‘Aisha:
      I never felt so jealous of any woman as I did of Khadija, though she had died three years before the Prophet married me, and that was because I heard him mentioning her too often, and because his Lord had ordered him to give her the glad tidings that she would have a palace in Paradise, made of Qasab and because he used to slaughter a sheep and distribute its meat among her friends.
      This proves Aisha ra got married with her own will cuz if she didn’t she wouldn’t be jealous

  16. Hajar Logan
    December 2, 2010 at 10:04 am

    BTW, this entire argument is Nazi proaganda tranposed from Hitler’s methods. If you want to know the Truth find out about it on your own. Read what Muslims today read…not the “Reliance of the Traveller” The first time I heard of that book was here.

    • admin
      December 2, 2010 at 12:29 pm

      Yes read the Koran and the ahadith, and you will see that Islam calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, and women. It allows rape and slavery.

      The ROT has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the world’s highest Islamic learning school in the world. But you who expect the readers to believe you, over them. Who are you? What Mosque do you lead? What authority do you have in the Islamic world? You are just another Islamic mouthpiece trying to cover of Islam. Just like you did when you said the sex slaves gave their consent.

      • Herda
        March 15, 2011 at 5:21 am

        Yes I have a nice fat copy of Reliance of the Traveller, and most of them have no idea what their laws are.
        Pretty sad for a cult of terrorists not to know their own laws.

    • eib
      March 15, 2011 at 7:13 am

      All tradition is additive, and to understand the essence of Islam as it is now, it is very necessary to read things you don’t see in use. Just because you haven’t read it, or don’t know about it, doesn’t mean the document doesn’t exist, and doesn’t mean that it isn’t influencing the thinking of those around you.
      That’s why it’s important for Westerners to read Aristotle’s Politics and Xenophon’s Anabasis. These are several thousand years old, but they are still influencing our thinking.
      I’m very surprised, Hajar Logan, that you do not know this.

  17. sanika
    March 16, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    let me just say.. ahahahahahahaha!!

    you people have been brainwashed by the media.. if you understood Islam at all you would realise what you are saying is wrong.. i dont need posh words to sound like i no what im talking about..

    the media is portraying muslims to be the bad ones.. congrats to them cos you yourself have been brain washed.. you are falling for their lies.. !

    have you never told a lie ever in your life.. sat on your pedistool..

    i feel sorry for you blind people.. the truth is out there if you did some REAL research you would no..
    why would Islam be growing at such a rapid rate if we were all tying..? if muslims are really talking shit then wht are people still reverting to Islam..?? ask yourself this..

    but i dont care what you think.. your diluded minds are working for satan..

    Allah knows best.. we will one day my friend find out the truth but then it will be too late for you..

    if you have nothin poitive to say..why say anything at all..?

    i used to be brainwashed myself just like you..i did my research and i learnt of true Islam.. and even without Islam i can see the media are zionists.. they want you to think bad of muslims.. its a shame you are so easily lied to and tricked..

    i pray Allah guides you to the right path..

    • eib
      March 16, 2011 at 4:13 pm

      quote:
      9
      Anyone who is so “progressive” 7 as not to remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God; whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son.
      10
      8 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him in your house or even greet him;
      11
      for whoever greets him shares in his evil works.

      end quote.

      http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/2john/2john.htm

      Quote:
      19
      We know that we belong to God, and the whole world is under the power of the evil one.
      20
      We also know that the Son of God has come and has given us discernment to know the one who is true. And we are in the one who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
      21
      Children, be on your guard against idols.
      end quote.

      http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1john/1john5.htm

      Quote:
      15
      9 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves.
      16
      By their fruits you will know them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
      17
      Just so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad fruit.
      18
      A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear good fruit.
      19
      Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
      20
      So by their fruits you will know them.
      end quote.

      http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew7.htm

      This is all you need to hear.
      Brainwashed? Speak for yourself.
      Allah is a spirit of the world.
      Mohammed is a false prophet.
      The fruit of Islam is terror.
      We judge you by it.
      And years will pass, centuries will pass.
      And NOTHING ABOUT US WILL CHANGE!
      You have made the mistake of thinking you could argue with non-Muslims.

      • Dan
        July 22, 2011 at 12:19 pm

        eib Once again I am so impressed!! Keep up the GREAT WORK!!

    • admin
      March 16, 2011 at 4:18 pm

      I will make this simple for you. Prove me wrong about Islam on your next post, or you will be banned. It is that simple.

      In the meantime, look in the mirror and ask yourself how you can support Mohammad the rapist.

  18. Islam The Religion Of Truth
    July 22, 2011 at 10:25 am

    The only people who have a right to talk over here are the ones who have read the Qur’an with its translations. Honestly, read over your comment before you post it. Show some respect to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH as we show respect to Jesus Christ. Islam only allows people to lie in 3 cases and that is only to prevent fights and disagreements. Other than that lying is strictly punishable. People need to stop trying to find faults in each others religion and look at it without being judgmental. Also you can only lie when the situation gets bad, because Allah is the best judge and knows who is right and who is wrong. And please respect the Prophet, some of these comments make me sick…

    Thank You.

    • New Crusader
      July 22, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      Islam The Religion of Lying:

      Here is a little talking done by those who read, memorize, teach, and live out the Hideous quran:
      On January 4, 2011, just a few hours after the assassination of Salman Taseer, the governor of Pakistan’s Punjab province, more than 500 Pakistani religious scholars and clerics issued a statement, lauding the assassin for keeping alive a “tradition of 1,400 years in Islam” which requires the killing of anyone committing an act of blasphemy against Prophet Muhammad
      http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4896.htm
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41863270/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

      All this because someone did not like what was said by a persecuted Christian mother. Yet you say: “Show some respect to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH as we show respect to Jesus Christ.”. Your filthy “prophet” had no respect for anything but his megalomaniac ego. His followers today have no respect for anything but dominance. And no where in this or any other part of muslim behavior is there any respect for Christ. It’s very clear that you are lying, and by your own comment (I’m assuming that you have read the Hideous “Qur’an with its translations.”) have exposed the fact that lying is a permissible way of life for a follower of MadMo (NPBUH)

      “Allah is the best judge and knows who is right and who is wrong. And please respect the Prophet, some of these comments make me sick…”

      You are wrong – ALLAH MAKES YOU SICK.

    • Dan
      July 22, 2011 at 12:16 pm

      Islam shows NO respect to Jesus Christ. Islam DENIES that He is The Christ! Islam shows NO respect for Jesus Christ, Islam doesn’t allow Christian Churches to be built. Islam shows NO respect for Jesus Christ, look what happens to Muslims who accept Jesus Christ. Don’t try spreading your lies here. Many people who comment on this site have read and studied the EVIL qur’an, the aHadith, and the Reliance of the Traveler. I will NEVER show respect to Muhammad. He was nothing more than a mentally ill, EVIL person who established an EVIL CULT.

      I will however Pray that Jesus Christ will open your heart and lead you away from the VILE EVIL that is islam!

      • eib
        July 22, 2011 at 5:30 pm

        Ask any Orthodox Christian,
        Ask any Copt,
        Ask any Melkite, if Muslims worship the same God as they do.
        The answer will come back the same– they resoundingly say that even though they might use the word “Allah” in the Arabic service, the unitary and anti-human Allah of Islam is not God.
        All these people are Trinitarian Christians.
        Wherever they have lived among Muslims, they have been expropriated of property, life, limb, rights, and respect.

    • eib
      July 22, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      Quote:
      The Church can never lawfully grant to Catholics permission to participate formally in non-Catholic worship. In dealing those who claim they have been given ecclesiastical permission to participate in the ceremonial rites of non Catholics Fr. Michael Muller in his well known work, “God the Teacher of Man Kind” aptly answers the question by stating “Neither any priest nor bishop, nay, not even the Pope, can give you permission to violate any of the commandments.” [39]

      It has been rashly stated the Mohammedans and other infidels adore the same God “together with us” [40] yet not only is this undoubtibly offensive to Catholic doctrine (as we have shown above) but it shows forth an ignorance of Islamic notion of God and their absurd doctrines. Mohammedans don’t pray to their god, together with us, they pray to their false god against us! The Quran is explicit on this point as it openly states: “The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before, may Allah destroy them, how they have turned away.” [41]
      end

      http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/islam/worship.htm
      Your religion is profane.
      Your prophet is false.
      Your culture is corrupt.
      You have nothing to offer but dreams of conquest.
      Your history is brutality and mass murder.
      Your legacy is more of the same.

    • eib
      July 22, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      Of course some of these comments make you sick.
      You’re genuinely afraid that the objections we’ve raised might have some basis in the profane message and profane source of your scriptures.

    • desertscout
      July 22, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      HaShem gave certain promises to Avraham (B’Resheet [Gen] 12:3) and were repeated again to Avraham (B’Resheet [Gen] 22:15-18) where Avraham was prevented from offering up his son of promise, Yitzchak; then later the same promises were repeated to Yitzchak, the miracle son of promise, in B’Resheet [Gen] 26:2-5; then once again these same promises were given to Yaakov (B’Resheet [Gen] 28:13-15 & later Yaakov’s name was changed to Isra’el (B’Reshseet [Gen] 32:29-31). When I read the Qur’an, some of the events that were revealed in the Tanach were changed and even mixed up. HaShem is not the author of confusion; but apparently the deity and ministering spirit of Islam were. This was verified by Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh, a former scribe of the Qur’an who had to correct the statements and grammar of Muhammad, or allah, or the ‘angelic’ messenger or all of the them.

      While Yitzchak was a type of the future, promised Messiah and the promises of HaShem to the goyim (nations) through Avraham’s seed; Ishmael was a type of Islam and its false testaments and false prophets. Where Israel was given the feasts of HaShem, the Torah, and the Mitzvah, and even though they fell short in their performance and behavior in keeping those covenants, HaShem promised to revisit them (Isra’el) in the acharit hayamim, end of days, (see Yirmeyahu [Jeremiah] 31:30-33), heal them (Isra’el), make a new covenant with them (Isra’el), and return them (Isra’el)to the land that was promised to them (Isra’el) through Avraham.

      Ishmael was a wild donkey (a$$ [or she camel] in heat) of a man who would be at odds with all his kinsmen. This sounds like Islam today (so what’s new???). Never did HaShem tell the Jews to turn to pagan gods, especially not those of the Arabian peninsula. HaShem fobade them (Isra’el)from doing such. Did Muhammad restore any of the feasts of HaShem; the Shabbot; the Torah; or any of the Mitzvah??? The obvious answer is NOOOO … NEVER!!! While Muhammad may have adapted some practices Judaism (e.g. kashrut), apparently his main focus was to replace HaShem’s feasts and covenants with the customs, rites and practices of the pantheon of Arabian pagan deities. Ramadan, which once again begins in August 2011, was a high pagan ‘holy’ festival celebrated long before Muhammad or Islam came into being. Therefore, Islam is just repackaged Arabian paganism.

      So will Adonai Elohei Tzva’ot or any of His five covenants; HIS feasts, HIS prophets, or HIS Torah be supplanted by an elemental, demon, spirit like Islam’s allah??? Shall Islam’s infamous prophet Muhammad, the Qur’an, the Hadiths, the Kaaba, or any other of Islam’s pagan trappings annul any of Adonai’s Covenants??? I’m sorry; I cannot respect this false message, given by any false prophet, or sent by a very real and dangerous demonic deity!!! I will only respect Adonai Eloheinu Melek HaOlam.

  19. Laayla
    July 23, 2011 at 10:29 am

    You are an idiot. It’s simple as that. You are taking a concept and twisting it. What’s wrong with you? Oh I know. You’re an idiot.

    If a religion doesn’t allow someone to say something false in order to PREVENT someone from dying, then I’ll be the one to say that’s stupid. And so should you, but you probably won’t because you’re an idiot.

    It’s about the intentions. If the intention can’t be justified, then that’s something you can critisize. Look at the hadiths you’ve pulled out. Are you not reading the reasons listed? Probably not. You’re an idiot. People like you just read half of a sentence and then start shouting idiotic things in the air.

    Yes, Islam allows lying but on circumstancial situations such as preventing someone from dying, preventing a loved couple from divorcing by inducing an apology between the two, etc etc. I’m pretty sure if Islam didn’t allow this, you’d have a blog saying “oh look how Islam allows for people to let others die and how Islam encourages divorces and how it advocates fights and blah blah blah.”

    Learn to not hate but you probably can’t do that because you’re an idiot. Now Bye.

    • eib
      July 23, 2011 at 10:55 am

      Name-calling is not arguing.
      Again, Islam disparages and leaves reason out of the discussion.

    • desertscout
      July 23, 2011 at 11:20 am

      At least we’re not pagan idiots following a system delivered by a demon inspired ‘prophet.’ It was written in the ‘Book’, as Muslims put it, that in the end days a great evil would surround Israel and say ” … let’s wipe them out as a nation: let the name of Israel be remembered no more!.” Many leaders of Islam are saying that very thing today, and Islam is that very evil spoken about in the ‘Book.’ Islam doesn’t just “… allows for people to let others die … ” it takes an active part and joyfully kills others in order to gain rewards in the afterlife. Islamic greed and perfidy will not be allowed in the afterlife, and neither will any human who performs such acts of violence (chamas). Just look at the history of the sectarian violence between Sunni and Shiite sects. You can’t blame infidels for this, because this has been going on since the Caliph Ali was assassinated. Look how many Caliphs were either murdered or deposed since then. You can’t blame any non-Muslim for the violence within the ummah, because the violence originates from within the ummah. The Armenian genocide was committed by the Ottoman Empire. They were Muslim the last time that I checked. Sharia will only bring the sword; and this is the stated purpose of Islam’s (Sunni or Shiite) Mahdi, to bring the sword to force all the world to accept demonic Islam. Hence, Islam is described in the ‘Book’, not by name but by actions, words, and ‘fruit’, and that great evil that was spoken of will be defeated by Adonai Himself. Adonai inspired the statement that “Salvation is of the Jews!!!” No other system or religion can change that statement of fact!!!

    • admin
      July 23, 2011 at 1:27 pm

      I see, “circumstantial lying” is OK. You thinking it is OK for your spouse to lie to you, shows you have little self-respect. A strong relationship is built on trust. Not lies.

      You seem so friendly….

    • July 24, 2011 at 7:09 am

      You are an idiot. Triple talak proves you wrong. What’s wrong with you? Oh I know. You’re an idiot.

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