Muslim Center of New York: Teaching Children Islamic Law/ Forcing Them to Pray

In my on going Sharia Mosques in America series, we see that the Muslim Center of New York located at 137-58 Geranium Ave, Flushing NY is teaching kids Islamic Law.

From the center’s bulletin board. For those who do not know, fiqh is the study and understanding of Islamic Law.

Sunday Islamic School
9:50 a.m. 1:30 p.m.
For Boys & Girls (5-18)
Registration Day
Sunday, September 26, 2010

Islamic Studies, Seerah of the Holy Prophet, Qur’anic Study, Hadith & Daily Fiqh

Classes Begin Sunday October 3, 2010 InshaAllah

For more information please
call at 718 460 3000

The center also has daily ahadith (words and deeds of Mohammad) classes.

The ahadith teach Muslims it is OK to lie.

Muslim hadith Book 032, Number 6303:

Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

Another thing they teach Muslims, is that the taking of sex slaves is OK. In the world of non-Muslims that is kidnapping and rape.

Bukhari hadith Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:

Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:

I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and
we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

The ahadith also call for perpetual war. That is until Islam is the only religion on the planet.

Bukhari hadith Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

Not only are they teaching the ideology of the enemy to children, the center is already has an elementary school, and is in the process of building a junior high school.

Muslim Center Elementary School

Muslim Center Elementary School
137-58 Geranium Ave,
Flushing, NY 11355
Tel 🙁 718) 460-2127, Fax (718) 460-9727
Email: mces786 [at]

Principal: Mrs. Nahid R. Farooqi

Junior High School Building Project
Come and Touch the Future!

Alhamdulillah , Muslim Center has been working for Islam and serving the Community since 1975. MashaAllah, Muslim Community is growing and so is your Center. As you know the construction of Junior High School Building is on going and almost 80% of the project is complete; but all the funds have been used up. To expedite the completion of this project, funds are urgently needed.

Them stating how long they have been around like it is good for America, reminds me of the email that the Birmingham Islamic Society recently sent me. In it they mentioned they have been around for 30 years. From a non-Muslim viewpoint, that is nothing to be happy about.

To make matters worse, look how strict this school is. They are forcing children to pray and support gender separation. From their Sunday school admission form.

5. All students are required to wear proper Islamic dress while coming to the center. A dress in
which they can offer prayer. All girls and women are required to wear HIJAB and
appropriate Islamic dress (no short sleeved shirts),
Shorts and shirts with pictures

6. Students cannot leave the center once Azan is called without praying the Jamat.

7. Parents are not allowed in the classes at any time. Sisters may wait in the Sisters room, while brothers can wait in the Masjid area upstairs.

This comment from their site, says it all.

Here believers are urged to sacrifice life and property for the sake of the great cause in which they believe.

If not stopped, Islam will destroy America from within.

Link to site

Warn the World



83 comments for “Muslim Center of New York: Teaching Children Islamic Law/ Forcing Them to Pray

  1. John Sobieski
    October 6, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    It must be hell for a young Muslim who doesn’t want to be into Islam. He or she doesn’t dare express disbelief? Slaves in America. Isn’t it ironic that black Americans are the biggest percentage of converts – choosing slavery, but hey you get to bitch to the infidels about your oppression and make all kind of demands for money and accomodations from them and surprisingly, they ask how high to jump. Not too bad.

    • October 6, 2010 at 10:12 pm
      • October 7, 2010 at 11:19 am

        I included your video on my blog

      • Diane Pascaretti
        February 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm

        This is a taste of what we are up against. I hope to share this video too.
        Good find Thanks

    • Hajar Logan
      November 11, 2010 at 6:36 am

      Islam is not slavery to Muslims it is freedom, especially spiritual freedom. Read the Qur’an and the Hadith, because the Qur’an does not encourage oppession in fact it is firmly opposed to it.

      While most people learn fiqh it just tells you how to practice, not “to Kill infidels.” You should read a book of fiqh one day, it is boring, but not inspire war or slavery or any such psychotic behavior. Anyone can find proof that a religion is the enemy, if they look for it.

      • admin
        November 11, 2010 at 6:40 am

        I have read the scriptures, and Islam clearly calls for the dominance of non-Muslims.

        What do you call this?

        YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

        Or this?

        One does not have to look far, to see that Islam is the enemy of non-Muslims.

        • Hajar Logan
          November 11, 2010 at 7:03 am

          Thanks you for the quote. I looked it up. Verse 30 says why: “The Jews call Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah, That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelieves of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded from the Truth.”

          All religious texts, including the Bible, the Torah call for their religion to be dominant…

          • admin
            November 11, 2010 at 7:07 am

            You had to look it up? The Bible is made up of stories of those times, while the Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all time. Only Islam is on a worldwide movement, trying to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all.

            Verse 30 is just words, not a call to fight from Jews and Christians. Slight difference there.

          • Hajar Logan
            November 11, 2010 at 7:18 am

            Dear admin. The ‘Reliance of a Traveller” book is quite antiquated. No one believes in it or follow it.

          • admin
            November 11, 2010 at 7:22 am

            Right, all because you say so. The book was last published in 1994. So next time do some research before you attempt to con me.

      • eib
        February 7, 2011 at 6:04 pm

        Spiritual freedom from what?

    • Friend
      December 27, 2010 at 8:17 pm

      Y are you harrassing a school we dont post this
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      (718) 252-1051

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      Grades: K – 8

      School Type: Private

      Student Enrollment: 120

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      OMG THEY ARE TEACHING CHRISTIANS IN A SCHOOOL ABOUT JESUS AND THAT WHEN JESUS COMES BACK HES ONLY TAKING CHRiSTIANS AND EVERYONE ELSES IS DAMNED!!! thats so peacful to teach children and make them think christianity is it! you have issues stop harrasing children you should be jailed!

      • admin
        December 27, 2010 at 8:21 pm

        So what, Christians are not on worldwide religious movement, looking to subjugate all under a barbaric set of religious laws. I am just pointing out what is being taught in Islamic schools. Considering Islam allows numerous crimes under Western law, maybe the teachers of Islam should be jailed.

      • admin
        December 27, 2010 at 8:22 pm

        BTW, much of what I posted is on their own site, and in case you did not notice many non-Muslims want to know what is being taught in these schools.

    • Usama Mujahid
      March 26, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      no it isn’t i am a muslim and i am proud to be you have a problem. and for your information i am a male muslim teenager who memorizes the Quran (not koran) and by other people who make my life harder because i am a muslim.

  2. October 6, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Does it mean that kuffar children are forced to attend a pislamic school in their spare time?

    • Hajar Logan
      November 11, 2010 at 7:39 am

      Dear admin. The Koran (Qur’an) actually has whole chapters that are stories of Adam Joseph, David, Solomon etc. There are over 114, as you may know some of them 3 verses and some 286. It actually chronicles the virgin birth on a whole chapter about Mary. Allah says, 3:64 “Say ‘O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him,; that we erect not , from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah.’ If they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will).”

      • admin
        November 11, 2010 at 7:45 am

        Hi Hajar,

        So what? Islam is nothing more than a con made up by Mohammad to justify his actions at the time. Of course you do not mention the fact that the Islamic version of Jesus, is not the Jesus of Christianity.

        I am just curious were you born into a Muslim family, or are you a convert?


        • Hajar Logan
          December 3, 2010 at 7:38 pm

          I read the Hadith you quoted in the whole thing you wrote about Jesus in Islam. Again I must question the validity of your sources. You do not say which Hadith narrators you use and as I recall Jesus is described as looking more semitic when he returns. Further the Hadith is not the Qur’an, that is the Holy Book revealed by God through Gabriel. The Qur’an describes the miracles of Jesus and the gifts God gave him in a way that is very similar to the Bible.

          • admin
            December 4, 2010 at 4:11 pm

            No, what you must do is click through the link and you will see the narrators. But that would not fit your agenda of trying to whitewash Islam. The Hadith help one understand Islam, and Bukhari and Muslim knew more about Islam than you will ever know. The Jesus of Islam is not the same Jesus of Christianity. Because the Jesus of Christianity would not want Christianity destroyed.

            Besides that you seem to think this is some kind of negotiation, and I will base what I do on your comments. It is not, nothing here will change because of what you say.

          • eib
            December 4, 2010 at 8:13 pm

            The Qur’an describes the miracles of Jesus and the gifts God gave him in a way that is very similar to the Bible.
            end quote.

            Having read the Quran, I can tell you that this is not true at all.

      • Hajar Logan
        November 11, 2010 at 7:46 am

        In case people are wondering when the Koran (Qur’an) refers to People of the Book it is understood to mean the Jews and the Christian. Bowing to Allah’s Will is explained further in passages beneath the one I just quoted.

        It is time for the baby’s breakfast. I am happy to chat later.

        • admin
          November 11, 2010 at 7:48 am

          I know, it calls for the extortion and dominance of them.

          YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

          You have just proved my point, and you should just deal with the fact that I will never bow to Allah.
          Have a good day.

          • Hajar Logan
            December 3, 2010 at 7:42 pm

            Who ever you bow to that is between you and the Most High, when the time comes. There are several quotes in the Qur’an that encourage us to be kind to the people of the book…. I will do another presentation and post it to Scribd.
            🙂 Bye for now.

          • admin
            December 4, 2010 at 4:09 pm

            There are several quotes that say the opposite, and that is what matters.

        • eib
          November 11, 2010 at 8:18 am

          I have not internalized your perception of me as a person of the book.
          As a Christian, I say I am a person of the Word.
          And the Word of Christ Jesus the Son of God.

          • eib
            December 4, 2010 at 8:14 pm

            Read the Gospel of John.

  3. boniferous
    October 7, 2010 at 6:19 am

    My daughter learned via the Islamic Society of Tulsa. Mind you, this group is fairly ‘moderate’; meaning Oklahoma is highly conservative and they absolutely MUST keep to themselves as much as possible. Yet, my daughter learned well how big of an infidel her mother was. When she was eleven she called me an infidel and never spoke to me again for eight years. I began to see it the ideology of Islam causing us to have problems. I had rejected Islam. But, one day I got so angry I threw the Koran in the trash. That did it. All was over then. It was from that d*mned school and also her father’s beliefs. Since she was devout Muslim and amongst the Muslim community, she was pressured to reject me. Then she turned 12 – legal age to decide which parent to choose. I lost. F Islam. Get it to hell out of our country. It’s ILLEGAL.

    • October 7, 2010 at 10:57 am

      Is she still a devout arselifter or have you gotten in touch and reconnected since then?

    • AmericanMe
      October 7, 2010 at 11:20 am

      My Christian raised daughter went to UTulsa and got daily doses of dawa from the muslim students association and now although we are still close she will hang up on me if i say one negative thing about islam. They are after our kids anywhere, anyway they can get them! Islam is a virus.

    • October 7, 2010 at 11:22 am

      wow. I’m soo sorry.
      Did you ask her if she got circumcised, per traditional requirements?
      Is she locked up in a HIJAB or buraqa?

      • AmericanMe
        October 8, 2010 at 12:42 pm

        She did not join the cult she just refuses to believe anything bad about them!

        • eib
          November 11, 2010 at 8:19 am

          I suspect that she probably understands the conlfict between Islam and the West, but just doesn’t want to think about it.
          It’s easy to turn away when the brutality is so ugly.

    • admin
      October 7, 2010 at 9:17 pm

      I remember your story my friend, but thanks for sharing it here.

      Stay strong.

  4. Dan
    October 7, 2010 at 6:46 am

    Thanks Chris, more great articles!! Keep up the good fight!! Praying for you!

    • admin
      October 7, 2010 at 9:17 pm

      You can count on it Dan! Thanks for the support.

      • Friend
        December 27, 2010 at 8:07 pm

        Jesus is in both religions why dont jews believ in jesus why are americans giving their money in exports. WHy cant a christian jew muslim all be born american why can we have churches but not sinagogs or masjids why cant we teach are children different religons y are you scared of another religion practices or beliefs why are you ok with sunday schools and priavte catholic schools and sabbaths and people in sweat lodges and fathers killing thier whole family while bush ran a country for 10 years wasting america blood sweat and tears America is failing because we are worring about stupid shit!!! WAAAKKKE up america and realize that we are in a crisis that we need to aid our americans there will be another reeloution within the country and america will be third world once again. Live open minded jesus is coming back and god is going to judge you and no judge let these politics and weird websites poision you mond there wont be an internet when war heads are demolishing the earth and there will be no one left to survive. Peace and love. God bless everyone!!!

        • admin
          December 27, 2010 at 8:13 pm

          The Jesus of Islam, and the Jesus of Christianity are not the same.

          Islam calls for the dominance of Jews and Christians. It also calls for perpetual war, and because of it there will never be peace. “Worrying” about Islam is not stupid, and if you do like the focus of this site, I suggest you go elsewhere.

        • eib
          December 27, 2010 at 8:54 pm

          Muslims deny the divinity of Christ, and that he is the Son of God.

  5. CGW
    October 7, 2010 at 6:50 am

    Are these centers publiclally supported at all? If they are, get the ACLU on the case. They’re fighting a case in MN right now where a charter school is accepting public funds (our taxpayer money) and yet is a totally islamic school, much like those you describe.

    • October 7, 2010 at 11:24 am

      Most have some sort of public funding.
      They even get really creative at it.
      Most of the “kids” that attend are “destitute” and their “mothers” receive welfare.
      The one in Austin has many kids with their moms on some sort of assistance.
      Islam and the doctrines should be considered Treason and Sedition.

      • Hajar Logan
        November 11, 2010 at 6:43 am

        With all due respect, most Muslim schools do not receive public funding becuase they are private independent schools. The only Muslim schools that do recieve public funding are in Florida because state laws in Florida allow Catholic schools to receive public over site.

  6. OXNIN
    October 7, 2010 at 7:39 am

    As usual, people talk about the problem, but do nothing! JESUS PEOPLE, THE LIBRAL USE OF PIG BLOOD WILL DRIVE THEM CRAZY……fUCKEN USE IT.!!!!! hahahaha….OXNIN

  7. October 7, 2010 at 8:11 am

    This is where we are heading, and in some parts of our country, we are already there! We are losing our freedoms every day while we walk around in a dumb stupor! Stand Up America!!!

    • OXNIN
      October 7, 2010 at 9:44 am

      Guys, try it. Find your local pig farm, make sure the owner hates mooks as much as you do, gather a half gallon of big blood, put it in some easy break bottles. Go to nearest mosque; and do your thing!If you have a large mook population, start up a Muslim shit/blood clean up. You will be able to creat a financial boon to your area. You need to be very clandestine about what you do. We all have enemies, ex friends, co-workers- lovers; you name it! Then just sit back and watch the sensational news that will take place.
      Be the first to create chaos in your local mook population. Numbers,that’s the key,if 50-100 “INFIDELS”, US,do that on a regular or semi regular basis; you will drive them to insanity, plus you will hit their money belts. Watch the fun take place, they can’t watch out for every one, it will wear them down. .It only takes one to start, then the copy cats will take it from there.
      We could end the unemployment problem almost over nite….OXNIN

    • admin
      October 7, 2010 at 9:16 pm

      Hi Stephanie,
      I did not forget you guys. 🙂

  8. B
    October 7, 2010 at 8:22 am

    We are in big trouble since our President is supporting Islam and promoting it.

    • OXNIN
      October 7, 2010 at 9:58 am

      I wont give him the honor of saying president of him; he is a fucking muslim subversive! We have to take back CONGRESS, destroy his Democratic traitors that have chosen to undermine our way of life along with him you destroy him!Even if you hate the Republicans, that have never bowed to fucken muslim scum, and blamed the troubles of the world on America; and, he is the sitting asshole of American gov GET RID OF THE FUCKEN SCUMBAG!Elect an American, not a fucken muslim!!!!
      This spook has set back the American black cause a thousand years, there will never be another black appointed to govern again….What a fucken shame….OXNIN

      • October 7, 2010 at 10:55 am

        Which is a shame since Allen West probably would have made a very good president.

        • AmericanMe
          October 7, 2010 at 11:21 am

          I like Allen West too.

        • Hungarian Crusader
          October 7, 2010 at 9:37 pm

          Do you mean Allen Keyes?

          • October 8, 2010 at 8:00 am

            No, he’s referring to LTC Allen West. He’s a black Republican running for a Senate seat in Florida.

  9. B
    October 7, 2010 at 8:32 am

    boniferous You are lucky your daughter or husband didn’t kill you when you left Islam because the punishment for leaving Islam is DEATH. We re living in very dangerous times and our government is doing its best to ruin us. they are supporting, protecting, and promoting a group whose goal it is to bring Sharia Islamic law to our country. As they multiply like rabbits within 75 or 100 years America will not be the same country. All of Europe will be lost first. It is the liberal democrats who will help bring this about in the name of political correctness.

    • Hajar Logan
      November 11, 2010 at 6:44 am

      Their is no punishment for leaving Islam. Talk to a Muslim sometime.


      • admin
        November 11, 2010 at 7:00 am

        I have spoken to Muslims, and an an Islamic Law manual approved by Al Azhar, the highest learning Islamic school in the world says there is.


        o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.

        From the Bukhari ahadith. Do you claim to know more about Islam than him?

        Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
        Narrated ‘Ikrima:

        Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”

        • Hajar Logan
          November 11, 2010 at 7:48 am

          That is no longer practiced. Just like christians no longer burn apostates at the stake.

      • eib
        November 11, 2010 at 8:21 am

        I wouldn’t tell that to the apostates who are hanging from cranes in Iran.

  10. desertscout
    October 7, 2010 at 8:40 am

    When Islam takes over in the US (that’s right, I said when); all children (and grandchildren) will be forced to go through this type of training. If both parents are dhimmis, then of course they will be forced to pay the jizyah as well, imposed at whatever arbitrary rate their local ‘council’ feels like imposing. If only one parent is Muslim, then of course the non-Muslim parent will have no rights as we know them today. When the US economy collapses (as many American globalists want), then the final nails will be driven into the coffin of the Constitution. I am still trying to find the information that the ‘hate crimes bill’ in the US has CAIR backing, which would give “Islam” a special protected status like in Canada and other parts of the world. That would make forums like this and most of us posters guilty of ‘hate crimes and blasphemy.’ Islam cannot stand up to close scrutiny, so they slowly but surely undermine the laws of each Western nation that they inhabit. They are as good or better than Mao’s Communist China was at reeducation, and their long term goal is to bring down the US (great Satan) in order to exterminate Israel (the little Satan) and all Jews world wide. Hitler will be a pacifist when compared to the coming Mahdi and Isa of Islam. This is one issue that really is “about the children,” and we are only a decade into their 100 year plan!!!

    • admin
      October 7, 2010 at 9:15 pm

      We are down, but on the rise my friend.

      Muslims know that in honest open forum of ideas, most people will reject Islam. That is why they lie, and when that does not work they either try and change the focus of the conversation, or look for ways to silence us. They play by little rules.

  11. OXNIN
    October 7, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Civil insurrection is just over the horizon. It will be against, the mooks, illegals, and this crooked gov. Be prepared for it. OXNIN

  12. October 7, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Our government funding this is akin to funding ones enemy. Islam, in it’s MODERATE form is a perversion of the TRUE ISLAM. Islam, at it’s core is, Conquest and Submission. Islam won’t rest, even if the whole world is Muslim. The Sudan is all Muslim. The lighter Sudanese believe that the dark Sudanese are not PURE enough. Their RIVERS run with the blood of the darker kind. Yet, even if they get rid of all the darker Muslims from that area, there will not be peace there. The next thing they will latch on to is that one Muslim is Sunni and anther is Shia, and so on.
    hat tip – my blog

  13. New Crusader
    October 7, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Comming to a school near you.

    • OXNIN
      October 7, 2010 at 12:24 pm

      Off with his fucking little head….The next Osama!!!!…OXNIN

      • Mobamad
        October 7, 2010 at 3:49 pm

        Put… Down… The… Crack… Pipe…

      • October 7, 2010 at 10:13 pm

        Hell yes, off with his little koranimal head!!

    • desertscout
      October 7, 2010 at 8:53 pm

      The Shiite branch of Islam believes that the 12th Imam went into occlusion while still a child and will return one day. Since Iran is over 90% Shiite; much of the sectarian violence in Iraq has been over which branch, Sunni or Shiite, the Mahdi will emerge from. Children like the one in the video play into the Shiite branches eschatology. Muslims have an eschatology that mirrors that of Judaism and xtianity, only twisted as usual; however, they still have very strong beliefs in the end times events. Mahmoud Amadinejad is a prime example of a Muslim leader that feels he is bringing on an apocalyptic event and the emergence of the (Shiite) Mahdi. Saddam was another ‘Muslim’ leader that saw himself as a new Nebuchadnezzar and attempted to rebuild Babylon. Both are/were rumored to own a white Arabian stallion a la Rev. 6:2, a sign of their expected Mahdi.

      • October 8, 2010 at 8:02 am

        You sure theirs isn’t scatology?

        • desertscout
          October 11, 2010 at 12:08 am

          The opposite of the real picture is a … negative!!! You are definitely a hard critic GR 😉

          • October 11, 2010 at 1:58 am

            I find it helps to discern reality more clearly. Especially when it comes to pislam.

  14. wolfy ghalkhani
    October 7, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    My husband is a Muslim, also. but I did not allow him to indoctrinate my children. My children were exposed to both religions. I taught my kids the truth about Islam including the very ugly things that Islam is and does. I also taught critical thinking skills. I hate to judge you but you should have been more on the ball. When dealing with Muslims or Islam never ever turn the other cheek. My daughter adores her father, but she also adores Jesus and would never be so easily swayed. So your daughter turned her back on you? Disinherit her.

    • Hajar Logan
      November 11, 2010 at 6:49 am

      wolfy: If you did not teach your daughter to read Qur’an for herself, then I am afraid you did not teach her much about it, …instaed you taught her about the sins of its followers.

      • admin
        November 11, 2010 at 7:01 am

        Your religion condones lying, kidnapping, and rape. When you want to debate me on this, just let me know.

        • Hajar Logan
          November 11, 2010 at 7:56 am

          consider this letting you know. I still have to feed the babe :). but I am happy to get back to you. 🙂 I will add you to my faves.

          • admin
            November 11, 2010 at 7:59 am

            OK, take care of your kid.

            Have a good day.

      • eib
        November 11, 2010 at 8:24 am

        You have a peculiar belief about your scriptures– that they can convert people all by themselves.
        What should like poetry to you can sound like the voice of the devil to someone else.
        Islam is not reason.
        It really doesn’t reach everyone.

        • Hajar Logan
          December 3, 2010 at 7:45 pm

          I am not trying to convert anyone, only God can do that. I am telling everyone to read the Qur’an because when they do they will realize that when passages are put in context it is a way of life that is consistent, peaceful and encourages the good. A book does not convert people God converts people, as He wills.

          • admin
            December 4, 2010 at 4:08 pm

            Once again Hajar makes a statement with no proof behind it whatsoever. You do this over and over, and I am not the only one who has called you on it. I told you the next time you did this, you would be banned. So that is what I am going to do right now. This is besides the fact that you duck question after question. Dominating non-Muslims. lying, terrorism and rape are not peaceful. But what should I expect from a woman who tried to justify the taking of sex slaves? You should be ashamed of yourself!

  15. Usama Mujahid
    March 26, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    i cant believe you would treat a women so harshly admin. you know what islam says about that. well, why dont you look it up. why dont you, like a respectful american studt the quran for a while then come back and leave a comment.

    • admin
      March 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm

      I have studied the Koran. Now tell me how you can look in the mirror as you support a religion of rape?

  16. eib
    August 5, 2011 at 10:18 am

    How does it feel to hate?
    You’re a bull in a china shop.
    You don’t belong around anything that is refined, intelligent or cultivated.

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