Questions for the Muslims who Read This Site

I have a few questions for you guys.

1. Was Mohammad perfect? Do you have any criticisms of him?

Mohammad married Aisha at the age of six, and had sex with her when she was nine years-old.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham’s father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

The Koran states that the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times.

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YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

My question to the Muslim men who read this site is:

2.  Would you have sex with a nine year-old?

My question to Muslim men and women who read this site is.

3.  If you had a daughter would you allow her to get married at the age of six, and would you allow a man (or someone of any age) to have sex with her at the age of nine?

Thank you.

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128 comments for “Questions for the Muslims who Read This Site

  1. Bosun
    August 24, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    some are perverts, Bro

  2. Koala Bear
    August 24, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Hmmm no response from the mohammedans. They clearly like boffing kids.

  3. August 25, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Ayatollah Khomeini I learned yesterday, married a 10 year old when he was 27 years old. This kinda sets the standard in pislamic countries. But of course, let’s hear it from the arselifters themselves.

    • August 25, 2010 at 1:43 am

      Mahound outdid him. He was 53 when he married 6 year old Aysha.

      • August 27, 2010 at 5:17 pm

        First thing you have to bear in your mind is that being a prophet Mohammed is big thing, his mission was to invite all people on the Earth to be muslims and to give them DIRECTIONS about what they should do.

        Reasons he “married” Aisha so young : she could grow up with him and learn everything about Islam and our prophet’s lifestyle => after his death she was the most respected person and she was asked about every doubt Muslims had(she gave directions because she knew the prophet the best of all people), if you need more evidence find out what she said about the prophet(she has a lot of hadises); it is NOT true he slept with her in age of 9, it is true he “married” her in age of 6, she lived in his home and they were not alone, he watched her grow up, he learned her to be a good muslim.. thats the main reason..

        Also, I would like to ask admin 2 questions:
        1. What does it means “Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236”? (It is not Koran, I believe Koran is the most important book for interpretation of Islam, not some other books I (as a muslim) have never heard about)
        2. Why you don’t try to forget every prejudice about muslims and read Koran because REAL muslims are doing just what is written IN KORAN. If you want to write about Muslims, you should read what muslims read, try to understand and ask other people, you will see that Koran talks about good. It talks about Bible, Torah and other prophets. Lots of people who spit on muslims doesn’t even know that we accept Jesus as a prophet and we believe in what he said.

        Hope you will try to understand things with your own head and not let others to manipulate because of your ignorance.
        p.s. sorry about my possible mistakes in English :))

        • admin
          August 28, 2010 at 4:28 am

          He did not have to marry her to teach her about Islam. The man was a pedophile, and rapist. He sure did sleep with her at nine, I will take the word of the Islamic scholar Bukhari over you any day.

          Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
          Narrated Hisham’s father:

          Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

          1. It is the book number of a hadith, and yet you call me ignorant.
          2. I have read the Koran, the Bukhari and Muslim ahadith and an Islamic Law manual. Why don’t you prove me wrong about Islam with some facts, your words mean nothing.
          3. Islam has a different version of Jesus than Christianity. According to the Islamic scriptures Jesus will come back as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. Why did you not mention this part? Are you ignorant, or playing games?

          • August 28, 2010 at 10:21 pm

            2. Why you don’t try to forget every prejudice about muslims and read Koran because REAL muslims are doing just what is written IN KORAN.

            Yes, Amina, that is why I am a counter jihadist and will fight islam will all I have. You have made it quite clear.
            many of us are quite educated about islam.
            We have read the qur’an, hadith and much more. Peddle your taqiyya someplace else.

  4. Kelly
    August 25, 2010 at 1:46 am

    A typical political socialist member here in Canada wants polygamy de-criminalized. Not exactly pedophilia, but close enough if you think about it. Keep it in the family, like those muzzies who marry first cousins.

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 2:52 am

      If that passes, then Muslims will just move onto their next demand. This politician needs to think long term here.

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 2:52 am

      If that passes, then Muslims will just move onto their next demand. This politician needs to think long term here.

  5. Mike the Libraryguy
    August 25, 2010 at 4:38 am

    Fat chance of getting a Muslin to answer you honestly here, but it is one of those questions you just never hear on MSM or Public Radio.

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 4:44 am

      Mike said….” but it is one of those questions you just never hear on MSM or Public Radio.”

      Thanks for acknowledging that. 🙂

  6. August 25, 2010 at 7:43 am

    I’ll take a stab at it.

    For the 7th century pagan desert arabs, marrying off your child daughter, or even killing them as a babies was not unusual. Before aiesha married muhammad her father, bakr, engaged her to a pagan. She was 5.

    And muhammad was impotent. With all aiesha’s blabbering, she only talked of being fondled, never about being ‘penetrated’. He spent a lot of time with her because she was ‘safe’, no performance demands no expectations. If he wasn’t with her, he was praying…always praying.

    Western women would not accept a child marriage…unless they were fundies of the Mormon church. It still happens with them.

    That should provide fodder for both muslims and non muslims 😀

    Btw, the quran says specifically, do not follow hadith
    Az

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 7:55 am

      The Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times. The verse says consumed the marriage, that means sex.

      Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
      Narrated Hisham’s father:

      Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

      Now you speak for Muslim women in the West?The issue here is not Mormons, (who I do not approve of them doing this either) so don’t try and change the subject.

    • August 25, 2010 at 8:01 am

      Haven’t you heard of thighing?

    • Miles
      August 25, 2010 at 8:01 am

      I have another ? Mr Az Zaqqum,
      Why do the muslim people move to our countrys and others when they hate the people and there God, our ways,our courts and laws. why wouldent they just stay where life and laws are so much better for them with there own kind as they put it.

      • admin
        August 25, 2010 at 8:08 am

        The come here for economic reasons, and to takeover.

        • August 25, 2010 at 11:18 am

          Precisely! Maybe one of them will be tempted to call once you start your radio-show? Any updates on that?

          • admin
            August 25, 2010 at 11:40 am

            I hope they do. Starting right around 9/11.

    • al-Kidya
      August 25, 2010 at 8:04 am

      If Mohammad was impotent when he finally consumed the marriage then the marriage to Aisha was null and void. Therfore Aisha was not one of Mohammad’s brides, nor were any thereafter.
      Why did Mohammad continue to chase after women, while still married to Aisha, if he was already impotent?
      This is taqiyya, man.

      And what was Khomeini’s excuse? Was he also impotent?

      It is also possible these men were just so perverse that they couldn’t get a rise out of normal sex anymore? They needed the really demented type of sex.

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 8:05 am

      You are also wrong about Mormons being the only people in the West who accept child marriages.

      Nine-year-old brides saved by authorities from being married off in Muslim weddings

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1063605/Nine-year-old-brides-saved-authorities-married-Muslim-weddings.html#ixzz0xd9CFsNc

  7. August 25, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Where is my friend Iftikhar Ahmad? Allow me to deliver this letter to him through this site in dedication.

    The title of the letter is: THE MUSLIM ISLAMIC ANIMAL WILD KINGDOM

    The jungle animal wild kingdom is not unlike The Muslim Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom. In the jungle animal wild kingdom, the animals prey on and kill other animals. We can forgive jungle animals because they are allowed to act like animals. But should we forgive the Muslims of The Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom? I don’t think so.

    What happens to the jungle animals also happens to different peoples in The Muslim Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom. It happens because Mad Pig Shariah was introduced, a Law by the Muslim god, Satan, nicknamed Allah and Satan’s minion none other than Muhammad a paedophile and false prophet.

    In The Muslim Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom, you have for example Sunni Muslims preying on and murdering Shiite Muslims. Just like the jungle animals that kill other animals, The Muslim animals have been preying on human beings for centuries and murdering them. Other Muslim sects, in keeping with their favorite sport, are doing pretty much the same thing. The Muslim Taliban are especially fierce and atrocious. The Taliban especially enjoy murdering innocent and helpless little girls, who seek an education.

    In The Muslim Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom, you have wild, old, depraved Muslim male sex perverted animals legally preying on little girls, as young as seven years, and legally raping them in accordance to the cruel, repressive Mad Pig Shariah. The wild depraved old Muslim animals don’t always kill the little girls right away. Killing them sometimes comes later in keeping with an Islamic ritual called Honor Killing.

    Ah, yes, about Honor Killing. In The Islamic Animal Wild Kingdom, the devious Muslim male animals prey on usually daughters and kill them. The Muslim male animals can be fathers, brothers, or even uncles who participate in an Honor Killing. Brothers and uncles also want a piece of the brutal Islamic action. They, too, want to practice the religion of Islam, the religion of peace. Honor Killing saves the honor of animal Muslim fathers, or the whole Muslim family. In other words,it keeps their decency intact according to Muslim thinking. Muslim Honor Killing can be for any number of reasons, sometimes flimsy reasons. Perhaps the daughter failed to wear a Muslim rag on her head. In The Muslim Islamic Animal Kingdom, that’s good enough reason to murder a daughter, sister or niece.

    Muslim daughters,sisters, or nieces can also be murdered in a Muslim Honor Killing if she gets raped by Muslim animals. Muslims must keep their families clean, decent, and without blemish, so they murder daughters, sisters, or nieces even if it isn’t their fault. To Be Continued….

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 8:02 am

      Here is what he said on my old site, in regards to child marriages.

      IftikharA said…
      Salaam

      The number of teenage pregnancies and abortions are on the increase in Britain. Sex education and school clinics are not the answer.

      Forced marriages and honour killings will keep on occuring as long as Muslim children keep on attending state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers a s role models.

      • August 25, 2010 at 11:29 am

        No, arselifters needs to be expelled from the western civilized world, that’s what they need and only that.

  8. al-Kidya
    August 25, 2010 at 8:11 am

    As far as old Khadija goes…she was an old maid. She was a has-been.
    She was the motherly type that nurtured Mohammad’s hallucinations and feelings he was posessed by demons.
    She was the one that convinced Mohammad that, Allah, one of the “minor”, insignificant pagan deities, in the Kaaba, and her favorite, said Allah would never allow you to become posessed by demons. She convinced Mohammad that he was the Messenger of Allah and started boasting about it all over the tribal village. She was the marketer that put in motion the ability for Mohammad, the mad, posessed, insecure one to become the pirate, plunderer, rapist, extortionist that he was. It was all a money game. Make money by starting your own religion. So in order to take the minds of the pagans off the deities in the Kaaba, MOhammad went in and smashed all the idols, even Allah’s for now he wanted them to believe that Allah was the one and only god. By the way. Allah is not a name. Allah is a generic term for a deity.

    • August 25, 2010 at 8:22 am

      That’s mostly correct.
      except Khadija died broke.
      muhammad was a wimp
      allah is arabic/quarish for god.

  9. al-Kidya
    August 25, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Why does Islam adopt the moon as the symbol on their flags, and on top of their mosques? Because Islam, before it was Islam, was a pagan cult and the moon worshippers had to retain ssome of their belief. So they kept the moon, they kept the balack rock, the Kaaba, the circumnavigating of the Kaaba and the kissing of the black rock…all pagan customs.
    It is a fraudulent religion and so full of holes of contradictions it’s like “swiss cheese”.
    That’s a better name for Islam…The “Swiss Cheese” ideology.

  10. August 25, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Why do muslims move to the west? Because they are oppressed in their own countries, and would be killed if they spoke out..duh. Bush brought a bunch of them over here. May take a generation to rid them of this honour crap…

    And, muhammads message was the quran, according to the quran. His message was not hadith..says the quran…and hadith.

    Btw, there is a difference between mormons and the flds. the same thing will happen with islam

    any other questions 😀
    Az
    athiest but eductated

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 11:26 am

      How come that “honour crap” did not disappears in one generation in other countries? It is not going away, as Muslims are getting stricter and stricter.

      The Koran calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, lying, rape, and terrorism. So what is your point?

      Muslims scholars across the world would obviously disagree with your statement about the ahadith. Don’t even begin to think that you know more about Islam than Bukhari, Muslim, and the scholars at Al Azhar, or have the authority in the Islamic world they do.

      • August 25, 2010 at 1:34 pm

        Count how many muslims are in this country then compare the honour killings in this country. We’re not Europe. It snuck up on them, but we’re armed and aware.

        Bukhari and muslim have been dead for over 1200 years. And I don’t know why you support the scholars at al azhar. They’re wrong.

        The quran calls for all people to believe in one god and to dump the pagan gods. Most people don’t know that the quran says over and over not to lie, the reason most people don’t know this is because the sharia’s don’t say it and too many non muslims only repeat what the sharia say. Sharia’s aren’t challenged, they are repeated. Don’t know why that is as it only makes them right. Now, when I’m debating a sharia (just about every day) I remind them that sharia law forbids them to live here, and it’s backed up by the quran. But I generally know more than they do as most of them only know the violent ayst’s of the quran and hadith, loads and loads of hadith. Then I bring the quranic aya that says no hadith allowed. They do love to debate me. Maybe its because I’m female, maybe they want to finally win a debate 😀

        anyway Chris, I did get your email, don’t know why you don’t want to debate me. I’m disarming them with the truth. How can that not help?

        always your friend 😀
        Az

        • admin
          August 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm

          Us being armed, is not going to stop them from killing their own family members, and we are heading down the same road as Europe.
          It does not matter that they are dead. They are highly respected authority figures in the Islamic world. No offense but you claiming to know more about Islam than Al Azhar is pretty ridiculous, and they have a lot more say than most people.

          The Koran encourages Muslims to lie.
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          YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.

          The hadith back up much of the Koran.

          Have a good day. 🙂

          • August 25, 2010 at 2:15 pm

            As I said, this snuck up on Europe, it won’t sneak up on us here. You’re making sure of that 😀

            Those highly respected-cough-at al azhar pander to the worst of the worst. It doesn’t make them right. I’ve debated with some of their students many, many times over the past few years. The fold like a bad lawn chair.

            As to your aya..too easy. First question, according to the quran who is a believer? Most sharia’s do not know or don’t want to know the answer to that question. A believer is anyone who believes in one god. Thats what the arabic word muslim actually means.

            Now, look at the ayat’s 10 above and find out what the story was about. Shuts them right up. and that’s how you win a debate with a sharia.
            as to hadith, quran says not to follow hadith. If muslims do not believe that the quran is complete then they are unbeleivers and should kill themselves. Fun stuff, huh?

            Home with an owie today, not having much fun.
            But always nice to chat with you 😀
            Hope you’re having fun in NY. Perhaps I’ll hop on my broom and fly up there to see you. We could probably have fun.

    • August 25, 2010 at 3:33 pm

      No it doesn’t. On the contrary second and third generations are getting even more radicalized. We have already seen this all over Europe. They’re never going to become integrated. Rather they are going to assimilate us into pislam or kill us if we don’t comply. The only solution is total war with pislam. There is no way we are going to co-exist with you arselifters in peace. And quit defending sharia. Sharia is utter barbarism and nothing else. Never am I going to accept living under those savage laws.

      • admin
        August 25, 2010 at 6:42 pm

        Thank you!

  11. August 25, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Psssst, Iftikhar Ahmad, where have you been? Forced marriages and Honor Killings occur mostly in backward Muslim Third World Countries. So what’s the excuse here? Furthermore, aren’t you aware that forced “marriages” and Honor Killings are within Muslim families? So why do you fault the so-called infidels? “Infidels” don’t force any marriages on anyone, and they DO NOT COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS, only Muslims. Friend, you’d better put on a human brain so that you can think straight.

    Iftikhar Ahmad, what you should do is teach the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments condemn both forced marriages, and honor killings. Why doesn’t your god teach the Ten Commandments. I’ll tell you why. It’s because the Muslim god is Satan, a “murderer from the beginning.”

  12. joe joe
    August 25, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    I thought it was catholics that liked having sex with little boys?

    • admin
      August 25, 2010 at 12:55 pm

      Those sicko Priests were not commanded by their religion to do what they did. On the other hand Mohammad was a pedophile, and the Koran states that his actions are to be followed for all times. Why are you silent about this?

      • Anne
        August 26, 2010 at 11:29 am

        Thank you Chris and Truth Detector for pointing out this false comparison.

        • joe joe
          August 31, 2010 at 9:59 am

          I don’t know any Muslims in America marrying and having sex with children. Yet, even though no one is commanding priests to do so, they molest children anyway. :/

          • admin
            August 31, 2010 at 1:31 pm

            Do you actually know the Priests? The bottom line is that Islamic Law allows those actions, and Islamic Law is what is creeping into America.

      • Anne
        August 26, 2010 at 11:43 am

        Thank you Chris and Truth detector for refuting that false comparison.

        • admin
          August 26, 2010 at 6:23 pm

          Your’re welcome.

  13. August 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    joe, joe, when anyone in this country play with little boys or little girls, they’re taken to prison.

    There were two studies about the Catholic priests. One study found that 1.8 percent were homosexuals. The second study found that 1.8 were homosexuals. That’s considerably lower than the average. Among the laity, more than 12 percent are homesexuals that play with little boys or little girls. I hope you’re not in that category. There are many of the laity that are also taken to prison and jails for playing with the young in a bad way. Christianity condemns practicing homosexuality.

  14. August 25, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    joe, joe, when anyone in this country play with little boys or little girls, they’re taken to prison.

    There were two studies about the Catholic priests. One study found that 1.8 percent were homosexuals. The second study found that 1.7 were homosexuals. That’s considerably lower than the average. Among the laity, more than 12 percent are homesexuals that play with little boys or little girls. I hope you’re not in that category. There are many of the laity that are also taken to prison and jails for playing with the young in a bad way. Christianity condemns practicing homosexuality.

  15. admin
    August 25, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    What a weak argument Az, and once again you come off as protecting Islam.

    “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers:”

    The verse where it says that Muslims should not take Jews and Christians as friends, only confirms what I said.

    It is very easy to see what it means.

    You can repeat yourself all you want, the ahadith back up a lot of the Koran.

    The Koran calls for terrorism, the extortion of Christians and Jews, rape, and lying. Yet you continue to act like if a Muslim only follows the Koran everything is alright. The Koran is a problem, and so are the Bukhari and Muslim ahadith which Muslims respect very much. Your continued statement that Muslims should not live in lands with other laws does not make much sense, as Mohammad would have never left Mecca to spread Islam.

    We had this same conversation on that other site, so I am done going in circles with you.

    • August 25, 2010 at 8:52 pm

      Hellsbells, you ran last time, too! You’ll never win a debate that way!

      and I’m right about that aya..I’m right about all of them. I know this stuff inside out.

      The reason you don’t know that sharia forbids them to live with us is simply because they haven’t told you about that law. It’s backed up by the quran…and scholars…including me 😀

      They tell you about the scary violent ayat’s and hadith to scare the fk out of you…and it works. It’s a circle of hate. They make you hate them and then they build off that, to hate you.

      I’d much rather slam them with their own texts.

      And by your logic, if I’m protecting islam, then you are protecting sharia.
      ever heard the phrase, the solution is in the problem?

      I’ll leave you alone now, you’re a bit grumpy

      • admin
        August 25, 2010 at 9:01 pm

        I didn’t run last time, and I did not run now. I already proved you what the verse meant. You are posting a bunch of easily refuted statements, that makes you look like you are pro-Koran. Don’t tell me what I know and do not know. Like I said you do not even make sense. Using what you are saying, Mohammad would have never left Mecca to spread Islam. Nothing is scaring the “F’ out of me, and those verses are the ones that the focus needs to be on. Once again you come off protecting Islam, and most of what I do here is speak out against Sharia. Even other readers here have seen what I see. You come off as saying there really is no Islam/Sharia threat as Muslims are wrong for wanting to spread it in non-Islamic countries. Well Mohammad’s actions prove you wrong.

        • August 26, 2010 at 1:52 pm

          Interesting banter between you and Az. I’d like to see more of it.

          • August 26, 2010 at 3:37 pm

            Looks like Az-lifter has run away with his tail between his legs.

          • August 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm

            Robin, I think it’s a she…

          • August 28, 2010 at 10:52 am

            Really? LOL!! Okey, then, a bint it is. Az, go to Gary’s blog, it has loads of interesting informations for arselifters like yourself.

  16. AmericanMe
    August 25, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Once again instead of addressing the question put before them Mo just tries to turn it back on you like Joe Joe did with the post about the priests. They cannot defend their night of the living dead death cult so they attack anyone who questions it. Creeps!

  17. Hal
    August 29, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Muhammad, the young marriage of Aishah, and the mathematical proof of the corruption of the Bible

    The marriage of Prophet Muhammad to Aishah when he was in his fifties, while she was nine years old, is vilified either ignorantly or perversely by some under the accusation of “sexual misconduct”.

    The marriage of Aishah was not decided by Muhammad but was Divinely ordained to him. Furthermore such a marriage was totally in harmony with the norms of all Semitic peoples, including those of Biblical times, and it still is the norm of many cultures today. Historically, the age at which a girl was considered ready to be married has been puberty. Aishah’s betrothal took place at least three years before the consummation of the marriage. The reason for this was that they were waiting for her to come of age (i.e. to have her first menstrual period). Therefore it is certainly not something that Islam invented. At the end of his life Muhammad married numerous other wives, not out of lust, but to bring them under his protection : several of them were widows, older women or had been abandoned and thus were in need of a home.

    Aishah’s marriage at an early age allowed her to be an eye witness to the personal details of the Prophet life and carry them on the succeeding generations. By being both spiritually and physically near to the Prophet, the marriage prepared Aishah to be an example to all Muslims, especially women, for all times. Aishah, the Mother of the Believers, was developed into a spiritual, teacher and scholar, since she was remarkably intelligent and wise. Her qualities helped support the Prophet’s work and further the cause of Islam.

    Just like you can’t accuse Prophet Abraham of being a child murderer because he intended to sacrifice his son, you can’t accuse Muhammad of being a paedophile because he married a wife the age of his daughter, fulfilling a Divine order. By the way, which son was Abraham ordered by God to sacrifice? Ishmael (the ancestor of the Arabs) as Muslims claim, or Isaac as Jews and Christians pretend ? The answer can be found in the Bible, and it gives the mathematical proof that the Bible has been falsified by Jewish Rabbis. Get ready for the surprise of your life.

    (Genesis 16:16): “And Abraham was fourscore and six years old (86 years), when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abraham”.
    (Genesis 21:5): “And Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born unto him”.
    (Genesis 21:8-10): “The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast. But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, and she said to Abraham, “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.”
    (Genesis 21:14-18): Early the next morning Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy. She went on her way and wandered in the desert of Beersheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. 16 Then she went off and sat down nearby, about a bowshot away, for she thought, “I cannot watch the boy die.” And as she sat there nearby, she began to sob. God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18 Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.”

    Let’s count : Isaac was about two years old when he was weaned. Ishmael was then sixteen years, because Abraham was eighty six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael and was an hundred years old when Isaac was born, according to (Genesis 16:16): “And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram”; and (Genesis 21:5): “And Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born unto him”. Meanwhile, the above description of Ishmael whom Hagar put under one of the bushes is the profile of a baby and not of a sixteen years old teenager. This forgery is so obvious… so bad for the Jewish Rabbis. The Jews were well informed that Ishmael was the one who was intended for sacrifice, but they concealed this out of jealousy and did corrupt the Bible to comfort their heinous claim that it’s only through Isaac that Abraham’s offspring would be reckoned. The Bible has been almost completely corrupted by these evil scribes.

    Furthermore, would God fulfil his promise of making Ishmael’s offspring a great nation through a false prophet ? Of course not ! In Matthew 21:19-21, Jesus spoke of the fruitless fig tree (A Biblical symbol of prophetic heritage) to be cleared after being given a last chance of three years (the duration of Jesus’ ministry) to give fruit. In a later verse in the same chapter, Jesus said: “Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof” (Matthew 21:43). That nation of Ishmael’s descendants is no other than the Islamic Ummah.

    Among the many westerners who have embraced Islam, one interesting thing is that most of them could be called “Searchers for the Truth”. They were the type of people who were spiritual, open-minded and read books on many subjects. They were not brainwashed simpletons who simply wanted to join an easy religion and the dominating culture of the time. They were people who knew a lot not only about religion, but about history, philosophy and other disciplines. They were clever enough and brave enough to find the truth and grasp to it.

    And now, how will you recognize Jesus when he returns ? How will you differentiate him from the Zionist Ante-Christ, the false Messiah who shall appear in Jerusalem ? Turn to Islam for the right answers…

    • admin
      August 29, 2010 at 6:07 pm

      “The reason for this was that they were waiting for her to come of age (i.e. to have her first menstrual period). Therefore it is certainly not something that Islam invented. At the end of his life Muhammad married numerous other wives, not out of lust, but to bring them under his protection : several of them were widows, older women or had been abandoned and thus were in need of a home.”

      Just because a girl has her menstrual period, does not mean she emotionally a women, and he did not have to marry or sleep with a nine year-old to teach her about Islam. He did that because he was a pedophile. Why don’t you answer the two questions? Turn to Islam when you cannot think for yourself, and can be easily be conned into justifying pedophilia.

    • eib
      August 30, 2010 at 1:26 pm

      Quote:
      They were people who knew a lot not only about religion, but about history, philosophy and other disciplines. They were clever enough and brave enough to find the truth and grasp to it.
      end quote.

      And I’m very sure that they have never translated one line of Latin, nor have they studied the Bible in depth.
      “Easy religion”?
      Yeah right. The more Christians are persecuted, the more people will come to Christ. Christianity thrives in persecution–
      Islam is spread by the lie or the sword.
      History has indicted you.
      You will never live Beslan down.

    • eib
      August 30, 2010 at 1:29 pm

      Religion is not about “the right answers,” or the truth.
      If you want the truth, study philosophy. Those are the truth people.
      Religion is about the redemption of the soul.
      In Christianity this is done through grace and the sacraments, through the sacrifice of Christ himself.
      In Islam, redemption is conferred through violence against the infidel.
      Christianity giveth life, and Islam taketh life away.

  18. MuslimEsq
    August 30, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    As a Muslim, whenever someone asks me a question about specific and literal interpretations of 1,400 year old law, the first question I usually ask is what does the Bible/Torah/any other ancient text promote? Is it similar?

    I almost ALWAYS find that all of the major religions contain major themes, when interpreted literally, that would seem abhorrent by modern standards — Christianity and Judaism included.

    There is no doubt that interpretations of Islamic law are about 400 years behind the Western world. There is a slow push to work on that.

    Are you this anxious to fight against the spread of Christian law or Jewish law? I’m sure that very religious Christians or Jews would also want their own version of “Sharia” to rules the world.

    • admin
      August 30, 2010 at 1:41 pm

      Christians and Jews are not on worldwide movements looking to subjugate all under a barbaric religious laws, but Muslims are.

      “There is a slow push to work on that.”

      The Koran states thats man cannot change its words, and the Islamic world is getting stricter and stricter. I am not waiting for Islam to change.

      • MuslimEsq
        August 31, 2010 at 7:10 am

        “Christians and Jews are not on worldwide movements looking to subjugate all under a barbaric religious laws, but Muslims are.”

        Yes, they are no LONGER on worldwide movements. This was not the case, especially for Christianiaty, up to 300 years ago. Ask the Native Americans.

        “The Koran states thats man cannot change its words, and the Islamic world is getting stricter and stricter. I am not waiting for Islam to change.”

        This is indeed the hardest challenge for moderates. The fundamentalists look at us suspiciously and ask us, quite directly, if we want to “bend” God’s laws the way the Jews and Christians have, thereby “diluting” our religion and allowing society to spiral out of control where fornication, divorce, homosecuality and general indecency not only run rampant, but are openly supported.

        • admin
          August 31, 2010 at 1:41 pm

          In case you did not notice people are more concerned with today, than 300 years ago.

          Like I said, I am not waiting for Islam to change, and for a “moderate” you are playing a bunch of word games.

    • August 31, 2010 at 7:39 am

      Why do you bother with the Bible/Torah, etc. when Mahound claimed that they have been altered?

  19. MuslimEsq
    August 30, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    1. Was Mohammad perfect? Do you have any criticisms of him?

    2. Would you have sex with a nine year-old?

    My answers:
    1. My religion teaches me to believe that Muhammad was perfect and God’s law is absolute and unquestionable, just like Christians are taught that Jesus was perfect and God’s law is absolute and unquestionable. Whether inidividual Muslims or Christians truly believe this to be true is a different and private matter.
    2. Absolutely not. But then, I would not have sex with a 14 year old either. In modern times, many people do believe it is acceptable to have sex or marry a 14 year old. It is eve permissible according to most state laws. I wouldn’t, however, because her brain (and body) are not “adult” or “mature” based on my modern understanding of it.

    • eib
      August 30, 2010 at 1:32 pm

      But that understanding is born of the West.
      It is one that emphasizes individual growth and the community’s duty and responsibility to facilitate rather than frustrate it.

      • MuslimEsq
        August 31, 2010 at 6:50 am

        Indeed it is born out of the West. Born out of secularism and the Enlightenment, not religion.

    • admin
      August 30, 2010 at 1:48 pm

      Jesus was not a lying rapist, terrorist. So stop trying to compare the two. You didn’t answer the first question, and your word games do not fly here.

      It is not permissible by most state laws.

      http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html

      • MuslimEsq
        August 31, 2010 at 7:01 am

        Marriage is permissible under the age of 16, to the the minimum age of 14, in some states in the U.S., with parental and judicial consent.

        Fine, I’ll answer directly, yes I have criticisms of him. Even though I have never met the guy and did not live 1,400 years ago. I’m not sure what your point is. I just cut to the chase I think by using my “word games”. That Islam teaches people to believe that Muhammad is perfect? Like I said, all religions teach that their primary prophets are perfect. Do I blindly believe everything I’m told to believe? Not really. I grew up in the west. Individual thought was encouraged.

        And what the heck is a terrorist anyway? How were the Israelites NOT terrorists under your definition, or anyone who ‘conquered’ other lands 500 years ago for that matter?

        • admin
          August 31, 2010 at 1:47 pm

          That other commenter said their is no “conquering” of land under Islam. I was just proving his statement to be false.

          The point is that Mohammad was a liar, extortionist, terrorist, and rapist. The Koran states his actions are to be followed for all times, and most Muslims will not criticize him.

    • August 31, 2010 at 7:37 am

      Since when are Christians taught that Jesus was perfect?

      If God’s law is absolute and unquestionable, then why is the koran full of abrogated verses? Unless allah isn’t God.

  20. MuslimEsq
    August 31, 2010 at 7:04 am

    Sorry, here’s a link to support my above facts on age of consent for marriage.

    http://www.coolnurse.com/marriage_laws.htm

    • admin
      August 31, 2010 at 1:43 pm

      Most states do not allow it, unless the parents say it is OK. Is your link supposed to make me accept Islamic Law?

  21. IainUK
    August 31, 2010 at 10:53 am

    My apologies for taken this debate in a different direction but there is two questions that I have searched for but cannot find any defining answers too. Not earth shattering questions but the first is personal(about my wonderful sister).

    We all know how islam reacts to a bit of man-on-man action in the backward islamic countries of the world. What is the islamic response to lesbianism?

    What happens to the bodies of the victims of the insane shariah judgements? If these unfortunate people are condemned by their own families and are shown absolutely no respect in their deaths, what do they do with the bodies? Are they absolved of any crimes and given a proper muslim burial or what?

    • MuslimEsq
      August 31, 2010 at 3:59 pm

      I think the first question that should be asked is one that is of “word games”. What do the major world religions, including Christiniaty, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism, say about the things you question? They’re all pretty harsh and archaic by modern standards.

      If we apply modern standards to any of them, there are flaws, inconsistencies and hypocrisies in the texts of all of the major world religions. Why do I remain Muslim, then? Because I believe in God, and if I gotta choose which version of the man in the sky I’ll go with, I choose the one I grew up in, which forms a part of my and my family’s identity. I appreciate the spirituality and community spirit that is present in the religion of Islam, which I found to be lacking in other religions (maybe Buddhism). If I go trying to study all of the religious texts diligently, from the Bible to the Torah to the Ramayana, trying to find inconsistencies and poke holes in archaic texts of each, I’d go crazy and just become an atheist.

      • admin
        August 31, 2010 at 4:09 pm

        Christians, Jews and Hindus are not on worldwide movements looking to impose religious laws on all. Muslims are, so you might as well stop trying to change the focus. It will not work here.

        Islam is nothing but a con by Mohammad, he said what he had to at the time to justify his actions.

        • MuslimEsq
          August 31, 2010 at 4:26 pm

          Alas, there are reformist thinkers out there (TODAY, not 300 years ago) who are pushing to have Muslims recognize that as long as the West allows for freedom of thought and expression, then there is no need to “spread” Islam there, and there are others who seek to reform the interpretations of these archaic texts. Once reformed, the Muslims will likely continue to proseletyze, of course, but not by force. In which case, your arguments about which God is more divine (or the lack of divinity of Islam) will be more important.

          I pray for us all that we don’t end up in some cosmic war of ‘us” versus “them”, meaning Muslims versus the West. That’s what al-Qaeda wants to happen, and the regular day to day Muslims don’t think much about it, believe it or not. They are just trying to live. They should start thinking about it though, because if they are both Americans and Muslims, such a cosmic war between radicals on both sides cannot be good for them. It cannot be good for anyone.

          Good luck!

          • admin
            August 31, 2010 at 4:39 pm

            Islam is not reforming, and Sharia is being preached across America.

            https://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/

            Islam makes it us vs them, and AQ is just the tip of the iceberg. All you are doing is trying to get us to back off, it will not happen. Muslims have had more than enough time to change things.

          • MuslimEsq
            September 2, 2010 at 12:38 pm

            Wait a second, so if Muslims are nice and reasonable, they are lying and you shouldn’t trust them (taqqiya, right?). And then if they get agitated at not being able to use reason to dispel ur hatred of their beliefs and calls for violence on them and their deportation, then you say “ah hah, there’s your true nature, I told you you’re a hateful group.” It’s really a lose-lose situation.

            Well here’s my agitation mixed, but with reason. DAMN it’s gotta hurt knowing that the world as you know it will be different in twenty or thirty years. No longer will white Christians be dominant. The Muslims and Mexicans will spread like wildfire because they have way higher birth rates. And they won’t even spread by the old, stupid, archaic means of violence and force. They’ll just…integrate into your society. All of a sudden you’ll look around and your kids are marrying Muslims and Mexicans, your grandkids are half Muslim and speaking spanish, half the people you know are brown-skinned, and your entire identity as you know it will be lost? Scary isn’t it? There’s nothing you can do about it either without resorting to the same archaic methods of force and violence that terrorists use. Oh the irony.

            LOL again, Good luck!

          • admin
            September 2, 2010 at 12:44 pm

            Thanks for showing your true colors, and proving my point about you. Geert Wilders will be the first to end Muslim immigration, and it will snowball from there.

            BTW, this has nothing to do with the color of a person’s skin.

  22. MuslimEsq
    September 2, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Us middle easterners are a good looking bunch too.

    Your sons are already a lost cause. There is no way they are turning down a hot Persian/Arab chick. Have you seen them?

    But the middle eartnern men are also very attractive. Olive skin. Sharp features. Deep, dark eyes. Guard you daughters! Because we will take them, whether you like it or not.
    And then make them wear a burqa.

  23. MuslimEsq
    September 2, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    If your point about me was that I am sarcastic, reasonable and did not call for any violence or hate whatsoever, than yes, you have proved your point about me.

    • admin
      September 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm

      My point was that if Muslim immigration is not stopped eventually this country will fall to Islam, and that does not seem to bother you at all. Your religion is full of hate.

  24. New Crusader
    June 17, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    ISLAMIST LEADER THREATENS JIHAD IF CHILD MARRIAGE IS BANNED

    Notorious pro-Taliban Islamist clergy in Bangladesh, Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini has threatened to wage jihad in the country if the government will pass any law banning child marriage.

    He said, two hundred thousand Jihadists of his group are ready to ‘sacrifice’ lives if any such law, which goes against “Koran and Sunnah” will be passed by the current government in the country.
    http://doodiepants.com/2011/06/08/islamist-leader-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned/
    http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad

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