Most of the regulars here most likely know that I am no fan of the “moderate” Muslims, are coming to the rescue line of thinking. That strategy was tried in the UK, and it was a huge failure. If one takes an honest look at the situation, you will see that this line of thinking, is nothing more than wishful thinking.
Not only is it wishful thinking, it also spreads false hope in the war with Islam. The reality is that Islam is clearly on the move in America, and “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue. It is past time that the non-Muslims of America realize this.
The face of this exercise in futility in America, is the so called “moderate” Muslim Zuhdi Jasser. There are a few non-Muslim organization promoting him, but none spreads as much false hope as the founder of ACT!, Brigitte Gabriel. Early last year I had spoken to the ACT! team about this issue. However, whoever was on the other end of the emails quickly ran away from the conversation. Shortly after, Jasser wrote an article for the American Thinker in which he bashed Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and me over our views on his fantasy land campaign. After reading the article I challenged him to a debate, but Zuhdi quickly pulled a Harry Houdini and disappeared. Maybe he was busy rewriting the Koran…
None of that mattered to Brigitte, the Queen of False Hope though. She is now promoting Jasser again, and she takes her support for him to a new ridiculous level!
The following is from a recent ACT! email:
SPECIAL ACTION ALERT
FOR OUR NY, NJ, CT, MD, VA, DE, AND RI
CHAPTERS!!JOIN HOUSE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE
CHAIRMAN PETER KING, DR. ZUHDI JASSER, MANDA ERVIN
AND OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW YORK
POLICE DEPARTMENT!
We want to call your attention to an important upcoming event in New York City. On Monday, March 5th, a group of moderate Muslims—joined by Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King—will gather together in New York City to voice their strong support for the New York Police Department (NYPD).
As you may recall, the NYPD recently was attacked by several groups, including CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror financing trial in U.S. history, for using the honest and accurate film “The Third Jihad” as training material.
That part is true. The NYPD has been under attack by Muslims and their leftist supporters, and the problem goes beyond organizations like the Council on American Islamic Relations, (CAIR).
Now here is where Brigitte goes off the rails and earns the nickname, the Queen of False Hope.
We encourage you to attend the March 5th event to show your support both for the NYPD as well as for this group of American Muslims who truly represent the Muslim American community. It is time that they are afforded the respect and attention they deserve, instead of Muslim Brotherhood groups like CAIR.
According to Jasser’s website he is calling for a separation of Mosque and state, (Which is not Islam). Well, that is NOT what Muslims across America are calling for. They are openly calling for Sharia, and changing America to suit Islam. A long list of examples of the Sharia campaign have been documented here at Logan’s Warning.
North Carolina: Sharia Academy Kick Off!
NY: Islamic School/Community Teaching Children Sharia
Koran Tutoring Available, the Sharia way
New Jersey: The Ground has Been Broken for 17 Acre pro-Sharia Islamic Center
Islamic Center of Tucson Arizona~ Live Life as Mohammad did
California: Pro-Sharia Mosque Gets OK to Build 64 Ft Minaret
Welcome to Shariah Board of America
Halal Invades Ground Zero~ Expands Across the City!~ PHOTO ESSAY
IslamoAmerica: Little Egypt, Queens NY~ A Photo Essay
~Islam Invades Jamaica Queens!~ Video and Pics! Part I
California Sharia “College” Set to Open
Birmingham Islamic Society: We Teach and Govern our Mosque by Sharia
Chicago: American Islamic College Fall Classes Start This Week
Muslim Center of New York: Teaching Children Islamic Law/Forcing Them to Pray
Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA): Helping Muslims Live by Sharia
Islamic Center of Tacoma: Our Children Shall Follow the Example of Mohammad
Atlanta Mosque Promoting Sharia
Astoria NY: El-Ber Islamic School~ Creating More Slaves to Islam
Seattle Imam Calls for Muslims to Live by the Koran
Seattle: In the Crosshairs of Islam
Sacramento: Welcoming a $4 million Islamic Center That Teaches Children About the “enemies” of Islam
Brooklyn NY: Al-Noor Islamic School Part II~ Bringing in the Islamic Culture
Revolution Muslim’s Lawful Sharia Movement
Islamic Society of Greater Houston: We Need to Protect our Community From Non-Islamic Environments
Brooklyn: ANOTHER Mosque Blasts Call To Prayer For ALL To Hear!
Muslims Call for Dominance of America at UCLA Conference
NJ: Muslim Center of Middlesex County~ We Have Created an Islamic Society
Bellmore NY Mosque: No Human Being is a Better Role Model Than Mohammad
Philadelphia Mosque: We Will Protect Muslims From Surrounding Non-Islamic Environment
Masjid Muhammad of Atlantic City ~ Imam’s from Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, Calling for Sharia ~
Illinois: Muslim Leader Calls for Sharia to the Chants of “Allah Akbar”!! ~ Video
That is just a partial list of the Sharia campaign taking place across the country, but I think you get the point. I am also sure I could easily find much more.
The Sharia campaign is what represents Muslims in America, NOT what Brigitte Gabriel’s boy Zuhdi Jasser is pushing. So the question is, why is she spreading suicidal misinformation?! The threat of Islam to America is getting worse by the day, and spreading PC false hope is not the answer. Like I said Brigitte, come clean with America! Our future generations are at stake.
There you have the harsh reality of the situation, “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue. No matter how unpleasant it is, you will get the truth here at Logan’s Warning. Playing make believe with Brigitte Gabriel, Zudhi, and Peter King will not win this war.
Ouch…!!!
Hey Michael!
The facts easily outweigh what she is pushing.
i asked her why moderate muslims stay muslim if they beleive the koran?you cant be moderate and beleive that evil book.she told me to e mail act and i did and stil lwaiting for response.
she has let us down.
there is no such thing as moderate
Why doesn’t she just answer? Ridiculous.
IT IS A FACT THAT ACT IS A RACKET. MONEY FOR HANAN TUDOR AND HER ALARMIST ACT LACKEYS.
ZUHDI IS POOTY, FULL OF APOLOGETICS FOR A MANIFESTO OF WAR AGAINST ALL HUMANS.
“MODERATE” MUSLIMS PRACTICE: “We will make smooth for him the path to misery.” Qur’an 92:8
WAKE UP PETER KING!
I attended a demonstration that was supposed to be supported and organized by ACT for America and the ADL (American Defense League) and none of those folks showed up.
May 28th 2011 http://infidelsunited.com/albums/photo/view/album_id/403/photo_id/6421 Therefore I stood and held a protest sign by myself, surrounded at first by 8 counter protesters, then 12 and then finally 14.
If they aren’t willing to show up at their own F!@#ing demonstration, this says a lot about them don’t you think?!
http://www.dearbornfreepress.com/2011/05/25/another-rally-against-radical-islam-at-city-hall/
No Fucking Surrender Ever! I gotta give credit to Frank the Tank and Jammie of OOTD for showing up.
David Pax aka The Head Infidel
http://IWillNotSubmit.com
http://InfidelsUnited.com
Hey David!
Good work on making the best out of it. If you are interested, please feel free to take whatever you want off this site. Just please link back.
I can also be reached at [email protected]
Keep up the fight!
Thanks for being there David.
Can Christianity be saved?
i believe that atheism will takeover christianity in next few decades, the only way to save christianity from atheism is to bring changed in christian’s doctrine of nicene creed that would be that jesus is human not divine being and prophet of god, this will confused christians but this is the ONLY way to save christianity from atheism taking over. the reason christians became atheist because of in the age of science and modern education plus freedom to reject god, today’s christians cant believe that god have to became a man eat/sh*t and have to die for SIN of man, this is reason christians rejecting not just christianity but god itself.
since human cant lives by bread alone and confort of fairy tales atheism will bond to failed. human’s desire for comfort so islam will takeover atheism.
why i am a muslim trying to save christianity?
because diversity of philosophy about life is important for survival of human race. ALL religious civilization contributed to human prograss, existence of only one religion would not be good for human race. in quran Allah said that he created many race of people and allow diversity of religions so human learn from eachother not despised eachother.
atheism offer nothing for human race except self delusion like freethinker, bright, rational, science lovers.
clash of civilizations is over now christians’s ASKED muslims to save christianity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QLl4w4HuLM
here is six predictions i wrote long time ago becaming true you may enjoy
how long this judeo-christian’s sex craze culture will survive?
forever?
next hundread year?
NO, this sex craze culture will not survive next 1, 2, 3, 4, decades
here is my six predictions
first. gay sex, porn, abortion, immigrants, bikini and other skin revealing clothing will be ban in christendom to save western pervert civilisation.
secound. a civil war between left-wing liberal and right-wing/ conservative christians and jews as always automatically sides with the left-wing atheistic liberal.
third. christians will ask muslims to support them in their fight with atheistic liberal
fourth. christians will blame on jews for destroying their pervert civilisation and start slaughtering the jews
fifth. jews will ask muslims to save them from christians
sixth. after bloody civil war christian’s “MASS” conversion to islam.
for more detail about my predictions read my blog
http://hfghj23458654fgha.xanga.com/
Once again Kope thinks he is slick, in his attempt to turn non-Muslims against each other.
I WANT THE DRUGS YOU’RE ON!! IF YOU’RE NOT ON DRUGS, THEN TAKE YOUR SHARIA LAWS AND PUT ‘EM WHERE YOUR MOTHER NEVER WASHED!
Sex crazed? You camel fuckers really are stupid! LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kvx2JF-kCE
Jackasslifter, you forget that one of the big religions don’t even have a god. Namely buddhism and still they have million upon millions of followers. There is no need for a god. Spirituality is more important than blind faith. Maybe not to you, arselifter but for all intelligent beings.
Kope- instead of asking yourself can Christianity be saved, you should be asking yourself can Kope be Saved? As long as you are a slave to islam, the answer is NO. I continue to Pray daily for Jesus to lead you away from the EVIL CULT OF islam!
Kope
Islam has turned you into a genuine lunatic.
Allah U deceiver
Actually no moderate muslims or islam. From islam point of view, “islam is islam”, finish! (no adjectives or labels such as moderate, liberal, peacefull etc).
My experience as a non-muslim in Indonesia, what’s said as “moderate muslims” are the muslims that won’t insult me as a Christian, won’t destroy churches, etc., but… is it enough? I say, it’s not enough as if they won’t congratulate me when I celebrate X’mas and remain to claim if my holy bible is false, show disapproval if we build a church etc.
My friend, please note: muslims only pretend to be good and tolerant when they are few and weak, but when feel strong, they will attack you. Note again, the thoughts of islam is to dominate the world and makea non-Muslims to be their slaves. ISLAM IS REALLY DANGEROUS TO HUMAN CIVILIZATION.
So, do you still to believe that atheism will takeover Christianity in the next few decades? No, I say: islam will takeover Christianity if your prophet’s evil teachings will not to be destroyed from now! I MYSELF BETTER TO BE AN ATHEIST RATHER THAN A MUSLIM!
Regards from Indonesia
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How, precisely, will something like that happen?
Let me tell you something. I used to be religiously very indifferent. A believing Christian, but not one with a working knowledge of Christian doctrine and its unique features.
And, to be religiously indifferent to Christianity was indeed to be religiously indifferent to Islam.
The less indifferent I became, the more I studied and understood about how different the West was from the East, and how different Christianity was from Islam.
And the less indifferent I became, the more I realized that I had the perfect platform for the critique against Islam and the preservation of the West.
I use it now.
Because I am a Christian, I can say with conviction that Islam is profane.
And it is.
No atheist can say that. In fact, the atheist is closer to being a Muslim than a Christian ever thought of being.
Your “creed” begins: there is no God . . .
And the atheist agrees.
You are counting on conflicts that will never be fought out.
You are counting on dynamics that will never come to fruition.
There are Catholics and a few Protestants who might cry out to Islam to save them from secularism.
But those of us who know the Orthodox and their experience under Islam, and are truly in touch with our history, will never call on Muslims for salvation from anything.
The Arian Christians, which is what the Unitarians and the Episcopalians are becoming, will welcome Islam with open arms.
They will have no doctrinal ground to stand on.
Excellent article! I want answers from Gabriel and the others promoting Jasser and the “moderate Muslims”! They have led many Americans to believe they are experts on Islam and are at the forefront of saving America, but they seem to have been duped by the very ones who practice it. Some of those others claim to be counter-terrorism experts. Have they forgotten who Muslims look to as the best example of a human being, umm that would be Mohammed, the pedophile, raping, murdering, terrorizing subhuman? Have they forgotten Muslims are experts at deception? I really want answers from them.
Another thing they (and the media) need to stop doing is using the terms “moderate Muslims”, “Islamists”, “Islamism”, and “radical Muslims” to refer to Muslims. A perosn whose religion is Islam is a Muslim, period. It seems those who use those terms for Muslims and Islam, are trying to reinvent Islam and it only serves to confuse people. Well, Islam cannot and will not be reinvented. “Islamist” is just a substitute word for “Muslim” and only serves to confuse people about who and what our sworn enemy really is. Anyone who views the unholy Koran and or Hadiths as holy are Muslims, period. Their doctrines and ideology are evil; vile; morally bankrupt; their collective goal is worldwide domination by conquering all countries and eliminating all forms of government and establishing their Islamic one. I have had the unfortunate experience with Muslims’ lying. I have had people in various professions tell me they do not trust Muslims after being in practice with them and that they seemed nice and polite for a while, but later discovered they were lied to and deceived by them in many ways. I suppose those Muslims would be called “moderates” by Gabriel, Adelman, Pipes, Phares, et al. Those who refer to Muslims as “moderate”, “Islamistists”, and refer to Islam as “Islamism”, should engage Jasser, other Muslims, including the mullahs, clerics, all their religious figures, on the issue, in Muslim dominated countries instead of trying to confuse Americans, which will eventually cause Americans to believe there are “nice” or “moderate” Muslims. They are attributing to Muslims’ goal for the USA whether they know it or not.
Muslims often say they only practice the “peaceful” parts in the Koran and the Hadith are not to be trusted, and they will avoid answering questions about the violent directives and the abrogated verses in the Koran. Gabriel and the others who are promoting Jasser (and the FALSE and made up terms and concepts: “moderate” Muslim and “Islamist”, Islamism”, etc.), should ask him in an open forum these type questions about the Koran, Islam, and their evil and demented prophet. That would be quite a show.
I have found that some Muslims who claim to have left Islam become offensive and have gotten hostile when Islam and or Muslims are discussed. They cannot take constructive criticism just like self-professed Muslims. It really makes one wonder, because after all, they are allowed to lie about leaving Islam only if in their hearts they are true to Islam.
Who will Jasser and other so-called “moderate” Muslims stand with and truly fight against if and when they HAVE to take a stand? Muslims, that is who. They will not break ranks with their Islamic teachings. They are NOT taking a stand against Islam’s violent teachings nor doctrines. By not taking a stand against it, is making it thrive and progress.
Gabriel and the others who seem to have been duped by Jasser and other Muslims need to wake up and stop appeasing Muslims who claim to want to change Islam, trying to make a buck and a name for themselves.
Great article!
How come so called “moderates” like Jasser, are usually hanging around non-Muslims? Let him go to Saudi Arabia and lets see how he makes out. If he makes it back, he can then do a tour of US Mosques. Then we will see that he has no real following, and is spreading a detrimental message to America.
In the end Jasser stands up for Islam, which is the ideology of the enemy.
https://loganswarning.com/2010/12/21/zuhdi-jasser-takes-a-stand-for-islam-bashes-apostates/
There’s been a 74% increase in terrorist training centers in the US in the past decade.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Jasser can dialogue with non-Muslims because it is safe for him to do so.
Around Muslims and in communities where Islam prevails as giver of law and the structure of society, he has no hope of being able to speak his peace.
He dialogues with us only because the Ummah would destroy him in a heartbeat.
But it is necessary that he do the brave thing and confront other Muslims. We cannot change Islam, we cannot even make any dialogue with it.
All we can do is resist it.
Jasser must, must understand this.
I’m glad I read this. I was about to volunteer to head an ACT group where I live. Now that I know she’s soft on moderates. I won’t. Thanks for writing this.
So now what?
In my opinion, the decision to not start a chapter (or quit) is a victory for the Muslim Brotherhood.
Start an EDL-type group instead.
The “VAST majority” of peaceful muslims are so peaceful that you cannot hear them.
Yes, the silent majority. Silent but deadly. 😉
Silent aside from the occasional fartwas.
That’s the deadly part. 😉
Of course, Bruce! 😀
This is an excellent article. You are so right to identify wishful thinking as the dangerous self-delusion that it is. The mainstream media is hooked on it, witness the so-called “Arab spring”. If an item does not fit, well, they just do not mention it.
There are plenty of reluctant muslims. They are unable to help because they are trapped. Look at those lovely girls who just wanted to live the American or Canadian dream. What happened to them ? They were killed – for not wanting to wear a headscarf, for talking to a boy, for converting to Christianity.
“Submit or be killed” is an extremely powerful totalitarian technique: it has been practised for 1400 years.
Wishful thinking is no defence at all
Thank you! Great closing sentence.
Think about those who practiced the same ethic:
Mao: submit or die.
Stalin, Lenin: submit or die.
Mussolini, Hitler: submit or die.
The worst of the 20th century practiced this ethic.
And what they did, in method and result, was no different from the “historical achievements” of Islam.
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The crime against these girls was an offense against women, children, and innocence itself.
These are all things only the darkest devil would hate.
USA, see Paul Weston`s warning in New York:
http://www.BritishFreedomParty.org/category/news
Thanks, I will be doing a post during the week and they will be included.
Chris you are right and history has proved you right. The only difference between the moderate and extremist is the moderate Muslim is content to let the extremist do the killing. While the moderates ties our hands behind our backs using the laws of equality and tolerance, they are only preparing the extremist to cut off our heads. I know we have had this conversation and I still maintain that everyone in ACT knows the existential threat of Islam. ACT does a wonderful job of teaching people what Islam is and, with that, people figure out quickly the incompatibility of Islam and Western Civilization. ACT has to be careful not to be put on the list of hate mongers and yes while that might seem to be a little disingenuous, in today’s world of Political Correctness we get no where telling the whole truth, sick as it is people can’t handle the truth of Islam, for now it has the ear of congress and other in the political arena while looking reasonable and continuing to educated hundreds of thousands of people to the evils of Islam. ACT is fighting fire with fire, they are doing the same propaganda campaign as CAIR and its ilk and it’s working. Baby steps with this education process, to many people just throw Islam in with all religions under the moral equivalence thinking that all religions are the same and that is the biggest mistake people are making. Keep up the great work and know that I do support what you do and say but some of us needed to learn the basics before being scared off with the real truth…elmore
Glad to see you address this issue!
Ever hear the term cafeteria Catholic? Those are Catholics who practice the parts they want. Maybe they go to Church only on Easter and Christmas (if they can squeeze it in). Maybe they use contraception and never go to confession. So, is it possible there are (cafeteria) Muslims that only follow the early (peaceful but abrogated) portion of the Koran? Is it possible they are American in every other way, maybe enjoying a cigar or glass of wine? What about all the dead Muslim girls? They were Muslim, but liked the American way of life, so they were killed. Are girls like that our enemy? You’re saying you wouldn’t want those girls to speak out in defense of the American way of life?
Because of your article, at least one person is not starting a chapter, which I feel weakens our fight.
Would you advise readers NOT to attend the demonstration Monday?
What’s wrong with Jasser calling for a separation of Mosque and State?
Regarding your statement that Muslims across the US want Sharia, I believe Saudi Arabia with the MB is funding all those hot spots and getting their own supporters in there to call for Sharia. Of course, those terrorists can play politics and they’ll manage to get zoning laws changed and grease the rails (Mosque construction). Just my opinion.
Chris, I’m a supporter and I think I know what you’re trying to say. But causing people to quit ACT! (or not join) isn’t going to help.
Hi John,
According to Islamic Law, to deny even one Koran verse is to apostate. May those girls RIP, but do you see outrage across the world against their killings? No, but Muslims will whine and kill over someone burning their book of hate.
He does not have to start a chapter with ACT! There are other organizations out there.
http://sioaonline.com/
Because of my article, people are starting to think and realize that “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue. Believing “moderates” are coming to the rescue severely weakens are fight. It is just false hope, which lowers the guard of many non-Muslims.
The Saudis are funding a lot of Mosques here, but there are also plenty of people converting across America. Look at all black people foolishly converting to Islam.
Thanks for your support, but ACT!’s message with Jasser is extremely detrimental to America.
The abeed will be abeed.
The Islamic “scriptures” are such that they will always give rise to a core of jihadi supremacists.
John, I used to think like you including “cafeteria Catholics” (reasonable average people–keep the door open, keep the dialog going but that’s because you are fair & logical & there in lies your downfall. While you are in that space, they are marching on–look at Chris’s list of dozens of examples of their agenda being pushed forward while your are meeting & talking with “moderates” like Jasser. I know moderates,&/or Moslems in name only. But they don’t follow Jasser, they don’t start Reform Mosques,like Reform Synagogues. Where are they? Jasser has been around
a decade or more, if this were effective ,10,000s+ MOSLEMS,
not hopeful infidels, as is the case—would be followers. When a few MOSLEMS start chapters,then I listen, ’til then–I’m with Loganswarning & Paul Weston(listen to his video linked above)
SIOE has said from the start there are no moderate Muslims. We are led to believe, by Obama and other Western politicians (I refuse to call them leaders) that Al Qaeda and the Taliban practice a perverse form of Islam. If so, why the hell aren’t Iraq and Afghanistan full of millions of moderate Muslims fighting to preserve the good name of their religion?
Only fools deny facts, and they would help global warming immensely by keeping their mouths shut.
The real shame here is that no one else in NY is in support of NYPD. In this deafening silence only muslim apostasy speaks out, and a hand full of patriots. The prisons full of thugs should be evidence enough to bring support. In muslim countries thugs are elevated to superior status and given authority, while anyone else is executed. Do New Yorkers really want to live that way? That pathetic rally with the muslim attorney should have been overwhelmed by concerned New Yorkers driving them out. The movie in question should be offered to the public sponsored by NY to keep people informed regardless of objections. People have truly lost all common sense.
Actually, some arselifters have just come out to support them. They must be anmadis.
You will never stop the Muslim invasion if you start trying to work out who is a moderate and who is not. Winston Churchill said in WW 2 to his leaders in the Bomber Air wings do not try and workout what parts of Germany are moderate and dont support Hitler completely treat them all as pure Nazi,s and that way you will bomb them into submission. To this day there are alot of people who are still critical of his stance and believe it led to alot of inocenent death which it did but if he had not done that it would have taken alot longer to defeat the Nazi,s the same goes for Islam the only way to stop the spread is treat them all the same.
The current issue of US and Nato dragging there feet on the Iranian nuclear issue and Obama asking Israel just to hold off till his re-election is a prime example of how politics has allowed Islam to posperer i say the Israelies should bomb those places tomorrow to show those Mulsims what will happen, teach them if you play with fire you get burnt.
The more time taken the harder it gets.
Getting back to the Sudan issue how many kids were shot out of trees like vermon by the Muslim led North last week nobody knows and i dont think many care. How about a new Crusade this time to Africa and wipe those dogs from the face of the earth.
South Sudan needs to arm and build an army.
Is it worse to shoot a kid out of a tree, or to be the reporter who ignores it when a kid is shot out of a tree? I would say it’s about the same.
Question to Logan
I know all the work you do against the Islamic growth is mainly US based but when you have a chance do some articles on other area,s like the masses of arms being supplied to the Islamic North Sudan by China which is being used to slaughter people of the Christian South and why is the US goverment helping to conceal this by issuing statements like only 200 thousand killed so far when they know the number to be closer to a million.
How many people have to die before the US will say that is enough.
China just wants oil and they don’t care how they get it. How many were in Libya when the trouble started last year? Thousands.
The gooks are as ruthless as the arselifters themselves but smarter than them. They are also better warriors than the arselifters.
Not going to the rally then.
You are posting from two different names and two different emails under the same IP address. I will continue to challenge any organization that promotes this false hope.
Let’s see….who is it that’s currently passing many ALAC anti-sharia bills in the various states, Brigitte Gabriel or Chris Logan? Who’s actually in the arena with blood, sweat and tears, Brigitte Gabriel or Chris Logan? Who’s working for energy independence to finally stick a fork in OPEC, Brigitte Gabriel or Chris Logan?
What’s your beef Logan? Are you jealous of Brigitte’s productivity or is it that you just don’t understand how this war will be won?
Zhuddi Jasser has a huge bulls eye on his back regardless of the enormity of his mission. Islamists hate him. That alone is reason to call him a friend. When moderate Muslim groups come out and endorse our ALAC bills around the nation, that gives us credibility with legislators. And it proves that some moderates are willing to speak out publicly against sharia. Working these natural wedge groups is a sign of wisdom.
Logan, let us know when you’re ready to roll up your sleeves and actually do something rather than armchair quarterback the real achievers in this war. Until then, please think before you open your mouth.
It’s only measurable progress that will actually win this war. Criticizing others’ efforts is akin to shooting front line soldiers in the back.
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In this case, the larger ethical question of life or death, or whether or not we should allow Sharia murder on our soil is an issue.
I would protect this individual and his family and supporters– they are standing in what could become a storm of stones.
There are two great principles, right and wrong, which contend here.
To preserve that man that the Ummah has condemned and to help protect his own thinking is ethical.
I do not consider Dr. Jasser an enemy.
And I also understand that the danger he is in is great.
eib if satan has a bulls eye on his back it does not make him your friend
If Jasser cannot confront the Ummah, then he is neither friend nor enemy.
He is merely irrelevant.
When the cold cultural war against Islam heats up, and it will heat up, then Jasser, if he does not convert out of the profane faith into which he was born, will be most likely an enemy.
I knew that ACT! would respond with some kind of comparison list, as they duck the fact that Brigitte’s comment about Jasser truly representing the Muslim community here is not even close to being true. The anti-Sharia bills are nice, but some will pass, some will fail, and others will be overturned in the future. Especially as Muslim immigration continues. In the long run they will not matter as entire neighborhoods are changing to suit Islam.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/02/09/islam-invades-jamaica-in-queens-video-and-pics-part-i/
Once again I state, if America does not end Muslim immigration it is just a matter of time until we lose this war. As they will never stop pushing. I know ACT! members who realize this, and they are not afraid to echo my call. But the upper echelon of ACT! does not have the courage to call for an to Muslim immigration, and have no real long term solutions. Thankfully some politicians in Europe are starting to call for the end of their Muslim immigration. The idea is not to let things get as bad here with Islam, as they are in Europe. Apparently this idea goes way over Kelly’s head.
Kelly, you might want to realize the fact that I go into Mosques.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/02/28/cuny-school-of-law-provides-free-services-for-mosques-to-deal-with-informants/
I also go to pro-Islam rallies, sometimes surrounded by thousands of people who would hate what I do.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/04/12/nyc-peace-leader-calls-for-militant-movement-the-islamicnake-video/
So yes, I am in the arena. Do you ever leave your keyboard?
I and many others call for America to be energy independent.
I am certainly not jealous of her or you. I clearly understand that she has no long term solutions. I clearly understand that Muslim immigration will eventually be the death of the West, and finally I understand that “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue. What part of those statements do you not understand?
“Islamists”? Was Mohammad a Muslim or an “Islamist”? Please show me the word “Islamist” in the Islamic scriptures. Do you know that according to Islamic Law, that to deny even one Koran verse is to apostate from Islam? The Muslim community is not going to play follow the leader with Jasser.
My sleeves are rolled up, when you hit the Mosques let me know….
Like I said, ACT! has no long term solutions and allowing your organization to continue to spread false hope, and go unchallenged is akin to stabbing America in the back. I will continue to challenge any organization that parades Jasser around. Besides being false hope, it is a waste of time.
When you care to provide proof that Jasser truly represents Muslims in America let me know. Until then lose your usual attitude.
Logan well said
Thanks Grant!
Kelly i think were you are missing the point is Brigitte is trying to get a watered down version of Mulsim idea into being which she believes is the better evil than the hard core version.
Were Logan is 100% correct is there is know liberal version of a false prophets believes. God does not say in the bible that it is better to live with a liberal false prophets believes he says you must be ware of the false prophet and do not further or intertain he,s idea in anyway as they are made of pure evil.There was not ab and c of different levels of this.
Remember there is know diffrence between satanism and Islam one and the same thing so i am sure you would not further the cause of satanists.
Just think through your rational thoughts on this then go and read and study your bible if you have one and you will see it is very clear were we should stand so think before you say Logan is doing nothing.
Again, I would have to use the rattlesnake analogy.
You are in a house that has been taken over by rattlesnakes– about 10,000 of them.
You know that 30% of these snakes are capable of biting and killing you, and that about 50% of them have been milked.
The remainder, about 20 percent, give or take a few, are quickly gaining their completely venomous capacity, and might kill you.
All of the snakes are bad-termpered and so, will bite you.
It is only the number who will injure or kill that is not clearly known.
And since you know that all will bite, what should you do?
Do you really want to go walking through that crowd to get to your door?
When you are dealing with a people whose history, values, culture and religion are lethal to the West, you are dealing with rattlesnakes.
You must take precautions.
You must not open up your house, your yard, or any part of your territory of culture, because if you do, they will be colonized.
And we have been colonized. There is no doubt of that.
Never herd it that way but 100% on the button beware of the devil in sheeps clothing.
You cannot try and convice the devil to change his ways he will decieve you into his methods never stand in the corner of the enemy that will just get you a knife in the back. God says in the bible in numerous places live by my word and my word only he did not say live a bit with the devil or false prophets and help them.
Excellent post, eib and very good analogy.
It is impossible for atheism, and/or Islam to ever conquer Christianity completely. Christianity has gone through worse times, and it has survived. Jesus promised that he would be with his church “until the consummation of the world.”
Atheistic Nazim and atheistic Communism did not succeed in conquering The Holy Catholic Church. Also, Islam, has never completely conquered the Holy Catholic Church. The Roman Empire did not conguer the Holy Catholic Church. Evil ideologies will come and in the end evil ideologies will be conquered.
Islam has been one of the most evil, deceptive ideologies, but it, too, will be conquered. Islam will disappear. Beginning in 2013, you will see the beginning of the end of Islam, a Crime Syndicate. More and more Muslims are converting. But beginning in 2013, Muslims will convert with greater enthusiasm. I’m referring to the Muslims that are endowed with a human brain. I’m not referring to the Muslims that have chosen the evils of Islam. These Muslims, who choose the criminal activity of Islam, enjoy evil. These Muslims are real criminals with evil and deceptive intentions.
Loganswarning is 100% correct. Moderate Muslims do not exist except in fantasy. Please see my article “At War with Islam” in support of Loganswarning message to wake up Bridgett Gabriel. She has destroyed the good the work she is doing by her delusion of moderate Muslims.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1646
Thank you sir!
I’m an agnostic. I cant be sure but as for what I think, I’m sort of like a panthiest, but I’m not so sure the universe is not aware. I think heaven & hell are pretty suspect, but reincarnation is a cool concept. I think jesus was a great rabbi and we all could learn a great deal from him. The “I’ll be back jesus” not really a fan. Hope my poor spelling doesn’t sully my message!
There are two types of muslim, active or passive.
One only needs to read the lists of honour- killings in Europe and around the world by the thousands,without choking up. Those fathers who held those girls in their arms when the were small, and loved them as any other father would. Uncles cousins, brothers with fond memories I am sure. “Moderates” turning into vile despicable creatures, and to use the term animals does an injustice to God’s creatures. Devils is the appropriate term. Moderates cannot co-exist with demonic forces. STOP MUSLIM IMMIGRATION AND DEPORT MUSLIMS WHO ARE IN THE PRISONS, TO PREVENT THEM FROM INFILTERING AND BRAINWASHING UNSUSPECTING AND NAIVE AMERICANS WHO SERVE A SENTENCE.
“STOP MUSLIM IMMIGRATION AND DEPORT MUSLIMS WHO ARE IN THE PRISONS, TO PREVENT THEM FROM INFILTERING AND BRAINWASHING UNSUSPECTING AND NAIVE AMERICANS WHO SERVE A SENTENCE.”
Ditto on that my friend!
Zuhdi Jasser tries to cover for Islam itself, and Islam itself is the problem. That makes him part of the problem. You see here people are allowed to speak the truth. Islam is the threat. But I have heard Brigitte the Queen of False Hope, who cannot deal with criticism orders her people to say “radical Islam”. Have you ever spoken to non-Muslims who are new to the subject? A lot of them are looking for “moderates” to save the day. ACT! is lying to America while spreading false hope. ACT! is also in favor of Muslim immigration. All one has to do is look at Europe to see that Muslim immigration is a Trojan Horse, and ACT! spokesperson Chris Slick actually compared Muslim immigration to Jewish immigration. How absurd. ACT! has no long term answers, and their attempts at damage control does not change that.
Thanks!