Park 51 Mosque Employee John Lichten: Islam is American

In this followup video to the “My Email Exchange With NY’s Park 51 Mosque Employee John Lichten” article, we see that John implies that Islam is American and he is angry! Well I have some friendly advice for John. He needs to start dealing in facts, and not “feelings”.

Hat tip to No Mosques at Ground Zero.

Lets take a look at just how “American” Islam really is.

The 8th Amendment guarantees that punishments will be fair, and not cruel, and that extraordinarily large fines will not be set.

Koran verse 005.038
YUSUFALI: As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

The 13th Amendment abolished slavery in the entire United States. Well, the Koran clearly advocates slavery.

Koran verse 004.092
YUSUFALI: Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased’s family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah: for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom.

If I remember correctly, I am pretty sure that kidnapping and rape are illegal in our great country as well.

Koran verse 033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

So I ask you again John, do you always stand up for things you know little about?

Warn the World



16 comments for “Park 51 Mosque Employee John Lichten: Islam is American

  1. Damien
    February 8, 2011 at 12:51 pm


    Lets also add the First and Second Amendments to your list.

    The First Amendment,
    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Given Islam’s insistence on not separation itself from the state, at all, that one ought to be obvious, not to mention the lack of any meaningful religious freedom in countries where Islam is practiced the most consistently. In addition, according to Koran and all orthodox Islamic literature, to criticize Islam is to make oneself worthy of death.

    The Second Amendment,
    “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    The second one might not be so obvious, until one understands, that under an Islamic regime, non Muslims have no right to defend themselves.

  2. linda jam
    February 8, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Chris, you’re a hero. too bad the title “arguing with idiots” has already been taken. it would have been a great title for your story.

    • Buck
      February 9, 2011 at 8:46 am

      I’ll definately second that!

  3. Darrius Jeddburgh
    February 9, 2011 at 4:10 am

    isalm is American. really? islam was invented by a mass murdering serial rapist pedophile warlord psychopath psychotic torturer and assassin.

  4. GMA213
    February 9, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Islam is only one of ALL religions permitted to be practiced in America by the United States Constitution. It is NOT an “American religion.” Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness and Christian Science are among the tiny minority of religions “invented” in the United States. ALL others came from someplace else.
    Some Americans are Muslims; some Muslims are moderate. There is NO moderate Islam ANYWHERE.

    • Damien
      February 9, 2011 at 10:09 am


      You wrote,
      “Islam is only one of ALL religions permitted to be practiced in America by the United States Constitution.”

      I’m sorry, What? Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and just about any other religion can all be practiced legally in America. People are not put in prison here for belonging to any religion. What are you talking about?

      • Damien
        February 9, 2011 at 10:11 am

        Also, the United States Constitution doesn’t allow any religion to be practiced other than Islam? That statement doesn’t make any sense. Have you read the first amendment?

  5. eib
    February 9, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Mormonism is definitely an American religion.
    The religions practiced by Native Americans are decidedly American.
    Islam is an Arabian religion. It was spread by the sword.
    Christianity is a Mediterranean religion– it was spread by the word, and by way of the Roman system of roads.
    Islam is a propitiary faith– it requires sacrifice for a good judgment.
    Christianity, like Buddhism, is a transformative faith, which requires the individual examine himself.
    It’s true that some Muslims are moderate.
    But as I’ve written before, there were moderate Germans in Nazi Germany.
    It did not matter; it made no difference at all.

  6. whatever
    February 9, 2011 at 9:32 am

    corrections on the above
    Christianity was born in Palestine (arab)
    Germans were Christians
    Romans Empire Spread through conquest

    whatever dudes … all of u dudes need to get your facts checked

    • admin
      February 9, 2011 at 10:27 am

      I don’t recall Hitler ranting and raving while holding a Bible, and your attempt to put the focus on past history will not change the focus of this website.

    • eib
      February 9, 2011 at 10:32 am

      Germans were Christians . . .
      How about the devout Catholics who found themselves at Buchenwald?
      Were their SS guards good Christians?
      Empire spread through conquest.
      The Muslim empire spread the same way.
      So you have said nothing. Nothing at all.
      Don’t spend your time confusing us. We know what you are.
      More lies, more confusion to the enemy.
      Islam is conquest– submit or die.
      And this is the very heart and soul of you.

    • Lynn Ferguson
      February 9, 2011 at 11:04 am

      Christianity was born In Israel. You need to get your facts checked. The devil had not even conceived of Islam yet.

    February 9, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Correction Christianity was born in ISRAEL ,there is no such place as palistine. It was a man made name given by the romans to the land of Israel they invaded. And dont mix up Christianity with Catholicism. They are not one and the same. They are as different as light and dark.

  8. February 9, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Lichten belongs to “The Party of Ignorance”.

    • CONNIE
      February 9, 2011 at 10:46 am

      He sure is ignorant.

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