A North American Infidels Rebuttal of the Muslim Comm Assoc. of S. Florida Part l

imagesCADS7U6FHello everyone! I am sure many of us agree that in order to win the war with Islam, we MUST turn things around and win the information war. So I am adding a new weapon to North American Infidel’s (NAI) arsenal. Rebuttals of what Madrassas, Mosques, and Muslim orgs, etc. preach about Islam. I am going to stick to America, and plan to do one a week. Today is the first of many.

We here at North American Infidels (NAI) make it our business to show just how deceptive Muslims are, as they try to lure non-Muslims into their cult of hate.

While the Bible says not to lie, the Koran states Allah is the best of deceivers.

Koran verse 3:54

—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

Now lets take a look at the deception of The Muslim Communities Association of South Florida (MCA), and friends:

From their about Islam page: (http: //www.miamimuslim.org/mca_code/site/?q=node/33)

The answers below about islam are based on Quran and Hadith, the 2 primary sources of knowledge about Islam. These were taken from The Islam FAQ website and provide basic information about Islam. Please see the website Islam Tomorrow for additional information on Islam.

Q: What is Islam?
A: Islam means “submission to the will of God.” Islam teaches belief in only  one God, the Day of Judgment and individual accountability for actions. Islam  greatly values peace; in fact the traditional Muslim greeting is ‘Salaam’ which  means “peace.”

What they fail to mention is that “peace” under Islam is a forced “peace”.


Koran verse 9:29 (Altasfir .com)

{ قَاتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلاَ بِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلْحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُواْ ٱلْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ }

Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam — from among of those who (min, ‘from’, explains [the previous] alladhīna, ‘those who’) have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily (‘an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning, ‘compliantly’, or ‘by their own hands’, not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam.

Koran verse 9:33

{ هُوَ ٱلَّذِيۤ أَرْسَلَ رَسُولَهُ بِٱلْهُدَىٰ وَدِينِ ٱلْحَقِّ لِيُظْهِرَهُ عَلَى ٱلدِّينِ كُلِّهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْمُشْرِكُونَ }

He it is Who has sent His Messenger, Muhammad (s), with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may manifest it, make it prevail, over every religion, all the religions which oppose it, even though the disbelievers be averse, to this.

MCA: Q: What are the basic teachings of Islam?

A: The basic teachings of Islam are similar to those of Christianity and Judaism. Islam teaches the belief in one God, the Angels, the Day of Judgment, Heaven and Hell, Adam and Eve, Prophets, Prayer, and Equality.

What they fail to mention this time is that according the Ahadith (words and deeds of Mohammad), Muslims are to fight and kill Jews to reach judgment day.

Judgment day:
‘The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa`ah)’ of Sahih Muslim.

6981: Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him.

6983: Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him. 

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What “equality” are they talking about? Because it is a fact that non-Muslims are not treated as equals under Islamic Law.

From Reliance of the “Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”. Which has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the world’s highest learning Islamic school.


o11.1 A formal agreement of protection is made with citizens who are:

(1) Jews;

(2) Christians;

(3) Zoroastrians;

(4) Samarians and Sabians, if their religions do not respectively contradict the fundamental bases of Judaism and Christianity;

(5) and those who adhere to the religion of Abraham or one of the other prophets (upon whom be blessings and peace).

o11.2 Such an agreement may not be effected with those who are idol worshippers, or those who do not have a Sacred Book or something that could have been a book.
(A: Something that could have been a Book refers to those like the Zoroastrians, who have remnants resembling an ancient Book. As for the psuedoscriptures of cults that have appeared since Islam (n: such as the Sikh, Baha’is, Mormons, Qadianis, etc.) they are neither are nor could be a Book since the Koran is the final revelation.)

o11.3 Such an agreement is only valid when the subject peoples:

(a) follow the rules of Islam (o11.5) (A: those mentioned below (o11.5) and those involving public behavior and dress, though in acts of worship and their private lives, the subject communities have their own laws, judges, and courts, enforcing the rules of their own religion among themselves);

(b) and pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)


o11.4 The minimum non-Muslim poll tax is on dinar (n: 4.235 grams of gold) per person (A: per year) The maximum is whatever both sides agree upon.
It is collected with leniency and politeness, as are all debts, and it not levied on women, children, or the insane.

o11.5 Such non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they:

(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness:

(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar)

(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu ‘alaykun”;

(4) must keep to the side of the street;

(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;

(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays;

(7) and are forbidden to build new churches

o11.6 They are forbidden to reside in the Hijaz, meaning the area and towns around Mecca, Medina, and Yamama, for more than three days (when the caliph allows them to enter there for something they need).

o11.7 A non-Muslim may not enter the Meccan Sacred Precinct (Haram) under any circumstances, or enter any other mosque without persmission (A: nor may Muslims enter churches without their permission).

o11.8 It is obligatory for the caliph to protect those of them who are in Muslim lands just as he would Muslims, and to seek the release of those captured.

o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated. (dis: o11.11) (A: though if only one of them disobeys, it concerns him alone).

o11.10 The agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:

(1) commits adultery with a Muslim woman or marries her;

(2) conceals spies of hostile forces;

(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;

(4) kills a Muslim;

(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.

o11.11 When a subject’s agreement with the state has been violated, the caliph chooses between the four alternatives mentioned in connection with prisoners of war (o9.14).


o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests
(O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or a Muslim captive held by the enemy.

If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed , and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.


Part ll coming ASAP, Allah unwilling!

Update: Because the association ran from Part 1, there is no need for Part 2 right now.

In an effort to give them a chance to respond, the article was emailed to them.


After reading this, do you care to respond?


Please be aware that I will be sending it to numerous Florida news agencies.

Thank you,

Christopher Logan, President, North American Infidels



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Tonia Demont
Tonia Demont
8 years ago

God bless u, please continue your great work to help others understand what we are up against! I pray the eyes will open before the mind dies. God bless.

8 years ago
Reply to  Tonia Demont


I fear your mind is already dead……

8 years ago
Reply to  Siraj

Logan, do you reckon The father, the son and Holy Ghost ever had a gang bang?

8 years ago

Logan…there is nothing more important than an informed society to hold back the tides of Islam. This ‘rebuttal’ is a terrific idea to do just that. You are informed, courageous and persistent…stay healthy and safe. Keep the faith.

8 years ago

Sirsj, You asked if the father, son and Holy Ghost ever had a gang bang, which was clearly meant to hurt and insult Christians. All you have done is demonstrate what motivates Muslims. This endless need to inflict the maximum hurt on non-Muslims wherever you find them as ordered by the koran. Also the constant harping on about sex, sex in this life and endless sex in the next, sex with babies, sex with small children, sex with animals, sex with innocent girls forced into marriage, male with male sex as ‘practice’ for hiding a bomb in the backside.

Thousands of Muslims flock to see amputations and other forms of bloodletting. Many more rush to see women lashed and stoned to death. Some people will watch anything in order to get an erection. You couldn’t make it up!

8 years ago

Sirsj, I’ve just checked the news on another website. There is a horrifying picture of a man having been crucified in Raqqa, Syria. Note the crowds of men taking photos, using cameras invented by the inferior, delinquent West, of course. Some are smiling, unable to hide their pleasure and delight at the spectacle. The Religion of Peace which we non-Muslims are expected to respect, admire and emulate.

8 years ago

Emmi, you have just checked another website for news…. Well it must all be true in that case, since you saw it on the web.
What you see and believe on the web is your choice. You choose to believe what
Logan writes, but what you don’t see is the comments of mine, as I’m sure those of many others, he has deleted which show him up to be the jackass that he is.

8 years ago
Reply to  Siraj

Siraj, I have nothing more to say to you. You are determined to follow the only ideology in 2014 that practises and welcomes cruelty and brutality. European Muslims want sharia law with hanging of gays, stoning raped women, amputations and child marriage.

No-one can stoop lower than that.

You are silly to believe that I follow what Logan writes as my sole source of information. The difference between me, you and your cronies is that I read and also think for myself. I don’t need ignorant old fools to tell me how to conduct my life. I have to admit that I am better than them and better than you – I don’t eat the flesh of tortured animals.

But a loony tells you ‘torture animals, it is halal, eat it’ and like a robot you do it!

No-one can stoop lower than that.

8 years ago

Thank you, Chris, for your continued effort to unveil the truth of Islam. As a Christian, I am expected to read and understand God’s Word to us from the time of Abraham through the Gospels of Jesus Christ. It appears that many Muslims have not taken the time, nor done their “due diligence” to understand what motvated Muhammed to strike out against his “unbelievers,” his newfound followers … anger. Even God got angry and destroyed those who were corrupt, (see Noah) but he promised he would never do it again. Muhammed thought himself above God and through his followers, the Muslims, continues to destroy the “corrupt” (infidels) to this day. We owe it to our children to continue to disclose the truth of Muhammed’s blasphemy.


[…] continuing with our promise to continue to expose the deception Muslims use to lure non-Muslims to Islam, tonight we put the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), in our crosshairs! […]

8 years ago

Well done, in general. But I wish you would use the Title attribute on links to display the url linked to.

In other matters: You omitted Reliance o9.13 which tells what happens to captured women and children. Marriages are disolved and they are enslaved by default.

I found this quote in the email blurb, but not in the post: ” What is Islam?
Islam is not a new religion. It is the same truth that God revealed to all His prophets throughout history. Islam is both a religion and a complete way of life.” In which New Testament (red letter edition) book, chapter & verse did Jesus Christ reveal and exemplify mandatory conquest, genocide & terrorism functionally equivalent to the following:
3:151, 8:12,39,57,60,65,67, 9:5,29,38, 39,111,120,123, 33:26,27, 47:4,49:15, 59:2,13, 61:10-13; Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331 & 4.52.220. ??

What legitimate religion has a chapter in its scripture entirely dedicated to the accrual and division of spoils of war? [Surah Al-Anfal 8]

What legitimate religion offers a carnal paradise [Surah An-Naba’
] with an upgrade as a reward for acts of terrorism? [Surah At-Taubah 9.120]

What is the “original religion” of Islam??? What is Jihad????

When you juxtapose Surah Al-Anfal 8.1, 41 & 67 with Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220 & Sahih Muslim 19.4327, what sort of pattern do you perceive?

What is the fard al-kifaya of Jihad? Is Jihad an-Nafs fard al-kifaya or fard ayn?

Rais truth: Muslims will only perceive it as Hell.