Logan’s Warning Challenge to World Net Daily (WND) and Zuhdi Jasser!

Jasser newHere we go again, no matter how many inroads Islam makes into America it appears the best most of the biggest media outlets can do is mislead Americans into believing that some form of “moderate” Islam is going to save America from ISLAM.  It did not happen in the UK, and it will not happen here. It is nothing more than a feel good fantasy provided by those who are either enjoying the money they make off of telling people what they want to hear. Or those who are ignorant, or just too cowardly to face the reality of the situation. The reality is that Islam itself must be fought! (Within the law).

Today we will see that World Net Daily has joined the ranks of those who are selling America a fantasy,  a fantasy that will end up destroying America!

 

MODERATE MUSLIM CALLS FOR BATTLE WITH JIHADISTS

Says all citizens are equally protected ‘under God,’ not ‘under Islam’

author-image by ANITA CRANE Email |

 

Editor’s Note: Three American scholars, two Christians and one Muslim, spoke to WND about the threat of political Islam. They say there will be further trouble unless Americans understand the threat and learn how to resist it.

 

Apparently the editor of the WND article is the one who needs to understand the threat.

“Freedom-loving Muslims must help America and the free world fight against Islamists and jihadists.”

That comes from a Muslim, Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and author of the book “A Battle for the Soul of Islam: An American Muslim Patriot’s Fight to Save His Faith.”

It’s his appeal to Muslim Americans and all Americans to fight political Islam.

It would have been nice if the author actually questioned Jasser on his fantasy land statements. Mohammad called for perpetual war.  So was he an “Islamist” or a Muslim? He was a Muslim, the ultimate Muslim, and Islam is political as it has its own set of laws.

“The only way for Islamists to abort their dream of a theocracy under their version of Islam is for them to be overwhelmed with a better vision – a better interpretation – of an Islam and our Quran based in liberty: an Islam that articulates and defends pluralism, tolerance, free speech, free markets and all the other fruits of a free society where all citizens are equally protected ‘under God,’ not ‘under Islam’ – an Islam that rests at home with the freedoms that Americans claim as their birthright and will defend at all costs,” he told WND.

Either Jasser is delusional or just another Islamic con man. Because Mohammad himself called for a theocracy.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24:
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:

Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.”

If the author had done her job, she would have asked him to prove his point. To produce this so called Koran that calls for equality between Muslims and non-Muslims? He cannot!

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Jasser’s faith and reason

Like many Christians and Jews, Jasser accepted the religion of his ancestors. He believes Muhammad is the true and last prophet, yet his understanding of human rights seems to mirror Christian doctrine. In keeping with his ancestors’ method of study, a classically Western method, Jasser believes in natural law and personal responsibility.

That statement does not even make sense. Because Mohammad was a pedophile, plunder, rapist, and slave owner. Those characteristics do not mirror the message of Jesus. To top it off, in the past when I had spoken to Jasser on Twitter, he would not condemn Mohammad for raping sex slaves! So which does he really support?

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Jasser said that while “scholarship and reason are a central and very important component to an analysis of normative Islam and its theology, most Muslims that I have known throughout my life do not believe in a ‘central authority’ that defines what is and what is not Islam.”

Well Zuhdi must not know too many Muslims, because his collegue Raquel Evita recently admitted to me that the Jasser “campaign” has NO Mosque support. As for the rest, the Koran is the “central authority” of Islam and it  clearly calls for dominance over non-Muslims. By force if necessary.

Koran verse 9:29

{ قَاتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلاَ بِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلْحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُواْ ٱلْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ }

Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam — from among of those who (min, ‘from’, explains [the previous] alladhīna, ‘those who’) have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily (‘an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning, ‘compliantly’, or ‘by their own hands’, not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam.

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Jasser’s next statement completely proves that he is either delusional or a blatant liar.

(1)“Nowhere in the Quran does God tell Muslims how to establish and run their governments,” Jasser said. (2)“Nowhere in the Quran does God tell Muslims that they must repeat and thus emulate the Prophet Muhammad’s role and actions as a military or governmental leader. (3) Nowhere in the Quran does God tell Muslims that they must impose their beliefs, practices and rituals upon others. And most certainly, (4) nowhere in the Quran does God tell myopic automatons to instigate murderous, terrorist actions against civilians and other noncombatants who, by definition, are incapable of causing them harm.”

(1) Koran verse 9:29 that I posted above clearly shows part of how Muslims are to run their government.

(1a)Koran verse 5:38 calls for the law of amputation for theft.

{ وَٱلسَّارِقُ وَٱلسَّارِقَةُ فَٱقْطَعُوۤاْ أَيْدِيَهُمَا جَزَآءً بِمَا كَسَبَا نَكَالاً مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ }

And the thieving male and the thieving female (the definite article in both [nouns] relates to the subject [sc. wa’lladhī saraqa wa’llatī saraqat, ‘And the male who thieves and the female who thieves’]; because this [clause] resembles a conditional statement [sc. ‘if he thieves, if she thieves’ etc.] the fā’ has been included in the predicate [fa’qta‘ū, ‘then cut off’]) cut off their hands, that is, the right hand of each of the two from the wristbone; it is explained in the Sunna that the amputation applies to [the stealing of] a quarter of a dinar and upwards, and if the person were to re-offend, the left foot should then be amputated from the ankle, and then [on subsequent re-offending] the left hand [is amputated], followed by the right foot, after which discretionary punishment is applied; as a requital (jazā’an is in the accusative because it is a verbal noun) for what they have earned, and an exemplary punishment, for both of them, from God; God is Mighty, His way will prevail, Wise, in His creation.

(1b) Koran verse 2:82, is about in court testimony:

 

{ يٰأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ آمَنُوۤاْ إِذَا تَدَايَنتُم بِدَيْنٍ إِلَىٰ أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى فَٱكْتُبُوهُ وَلْيَكْتُب بَّيْنَكُمْ كَاتِبٌ بِٱلْعَدْلِ وَلاَ يَأْبَ كَاتِبٌ أَنْ يَكْتُبَ كَمَا عَلَّمَهُ ٱللَّهُ فَلْيَكْتُبْ وَلْيُمْلِلِ ٱلَّذِي عَلَيْهِ ٱلْحَقُّ وَلْيَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ رَبَّهُ وَلاَ يَبْخَسْ مِنْهُ شَيْئاً فَإن كَانَ ٱلَّذِي عَلَيْهِ ٱلْحَقُّ سَفِيهاً أَوْ ضَعِيفاً أَوْ لاَ يَسْتَطِيعُ أَن يُمِلَّ هُوَ فَلْيُمْلِلْ وَلِيُّهُ بِٱلْعَدْلِ وَٱسْتَشْهِدُواْ شَهِيدَيْنِ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ فَإِن لَّمْ يَكُونَا رَجُلَيْنِ فَرَجُلٌ وَٱمْرَأَتَانِ مِمَّن تَرْضَوْنَ مِنَ ٱلشُّهَدَآءِ أَن تَضِلَّ إِحْدَاهُمَا فَتُذَكِّرَ إِحْدَاهُمَا ٱلأُخْرَىٰ وَلاَ يَأْبَ ٱلشُّهَدَآءُ إِذَا مَا دُعُواْ وَلاَ تَسْأَمُوۤاْ أَن تَكْتُبُوهُ صَغِيراً أَو كَبِيراً إِلَىٰ أَجَلِهِ ذَلِكُمْ أَقْسَطُ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ وَأَقْومُ لِلشَّهَٰدَةِ وَأَدْنَىٰ أَلاَّ تَرْتَابُوۤاْ إِلاَّ أَن تَكُونَ تِجَٰرَةً حَاضِرَةً تُدِيرُونَهَا بَيْنَكُمْ فَلَيْسَ عَلَيْكُمْ جُنَاحٌ أَلاَّ تَكْتُبُوهَا وَأَشْهِدُوۤاْ إِذَا تَبَايَعْتُمْ وَلاَ يُضَآرَّ كَاتِبٌ وَلاَ شَهِيدٌ وَإِن تَفْعَلُواْ فَإِنَّهُ فُسُوقٌ بِكُمْ وَٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ وَيُعَلِّمُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ }

O you who believe, when you contract, when you are dealing with, a debt, such as in prepayment for (future) delivery of goods or a loan, one upon another for a stated, a known, term, write it down, as confirmation and security against any dispute; and let a writer write it, the contract of debt, down between you justly, accurately, not increasing or decreasing the amount or the terms; and let not any writer refuse to write it down, if he is requested for such a task, as God has taught him (the kāf of ka-mā, ‘as’, is semantically connected to the verb ya’ba, ‘refuse’), that is, just as He has given him the advantage of knowing how to write, he should not be niggardly in this respect; so let him write (repeated for emphasis), and let the debtor dictate, to the one writing the contract, for he is the one being witnessed, and must be fully aware of his obligations; and let him fear God his Lord, when dictating, and not diminish anything of it, of the debt due. And if the debtor be a fool, a squanderer, or weak, not up to dictating on account of old age or immaturity, or unable to dictate himself, on account of being dumb, or not knowing the language and so forth, then let his guardian, the one in charge of his affairs, be it a parent, an executor, a custodian or an interpreter, dictate justly. And summon to bear witness, the debt, two witnesses, men, mature Muslim free men; or if the two, witnesses, be not men, then one man and two women, to bear witness, such witnesses as you approve of, on account of their piety and probity; the number of women is because of the fact, so that if one of the two women errs, forgets the testimony, given their lesser astuteness and accuracy; the other, the one remembering, will remind her (read fa-tudhakkira or fa-tudhkira), the one that has forgotten — the ‘reminding’ clause is the reason [for the choice of two women], that is to say, so that she may be reminded if she errs or strays into error, because this [forgetfulness] is the cause of it (a variant reading [for an, ‘that’] has the conditional in, ‘if’, with [the verb inflected as] tudhakkiru, ‘she will remind’, making it a new sentence, the response to which [follows]); and let the witnesses not refuse, whenever (the mā of idhā mā, ‘whenever’, is extra) they are summoned, to bear witness and take responsibility for the testimony; and be not disdainful, lazy, to write it down, that which you have witnessed in truth (for this frequently occurred), be it, small or great, a little or much, with its term, that is, the date on which it is due
Continued HERE.

(2)  Jasser said: “Nowhere in the Quran does God tell Muslims that they must repeat and thus emulate the Prophet Muhammad’s role and actions as a military or governmental leader.”

Actually, that is just what a verse in the Koran says. Has Jasser even read it, or does he just babble on in his weak attempt to protect his so called religion?

Koran verse 33:21

{ لَّقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ ٱللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُواْ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلْيَوْمَ ٱلآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ ٱللَّهَ كَثِيراً }

Verily there is for you a good example (read iswa or uswa) in the Messenger of God, to emulate in combat and in holding one’s ground [therein], for whoever (li-man substitutes for lakum, ‘for you’) hopes for [the encounter with] God, fears Him, and the Last Day, and remembers God often, in contrast to those who do not.

(3) Jasser said: “Nowhere in the Quran does God tell Muslims that they must impose their beliefs, practices and rituals upon others.”

Koran verse 9:29 already proved the statement above to be false. I will also add this….

Koran verse 2:193

{ وَقَاتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّىٰ لاَ تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ ٱلدِّينُ للَّهِ فَإِنِ ٱنْتَهَواْ فَلاَ عُدْوَانَ إِلاَّ عَلَى ٱلظَّالِمِينَ }

Fight them till there is no sedition, no idolatry, and the religion, all worship, is for God, alone and none are worshipped apart from Him; then if they desist, from idolatry, do not aggress against them. This is indicated by the following words, there shall be no enmity, no aggression through slaying or otherwise, save against evildoers. Those that desist, however, are not evildoers and should not be shown any enmity.

(4) Jasser said:  “nowhere in the Quran does God tell myopic automatons to instigate murderous, terrorist actions against civilians and other noncombatants who, by definition, are incapable of causing them harm.”

Is that so Zuhdi?

Koran verse 4:89

{ وَدُّواْ لَوْ تَكْفُرُونَ كَمَا كَفَرُواْ فَتَكُونُونَ سَوَآءً فَلاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ مِنْهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءَ حَتَّىٰ يُهَاجِرُواْ فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ فَإِنْ تَوَلَّوْاْ فَخُذُوهُمْ وَٱقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَلاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ مِنْهُمْ وَلِيّاً وَلاَ نَصِيراً }

They long, they wish, that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, so then you, and they, would be equal, in unbelief; therefore do not take friends from among them, associating with them, even if they should [outwardly] manifest belief, until they emigrate in the way of God, a proper emigration that would confirm their belief; then, if they turn away, and remain upon their ways, take them, as captives, and slay them wherever you find them; and do not take any of them as a patron, to associate with, or as a helper, to assist you against your enemy.

 

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Jasser said his interpretation of the Quran “has always included the overriding idea that the Prophet Muhammad’s example, spiritually and morally, is for all times – but that his political and military actions were an example that cannot be taken out of the context of the times in which he lived and its specific conflicts.”

I see, America’s “moderate” Muslim poster boy is OK with the perverted actions of Mohammad. That explains why he would NOT condemn Mohammad for raping captives of war.

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For Muslims, he said, “the authenticity of the Arabic script of the Quran revealed to the Prophet Muhammad has the same sort of divine status as the Prophet Jesus has for Christians.”

Well at least he was honest about that, and therein lies the problem….

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Jasser said it’s also important to know that for Muslims there is a significant theological difference between the Hadith – the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad – and the Quran, especially with regard to authenticity.

“So many of the passages portrayed as ‘authentic’ hadith are actually rather ‘weak,’ and, many Muslims believe, were never the actual words of the Prophet Muhammad but rather were fabricated by theo-political power interests to advance a supremacist agenda of some kind,” he said. “It saddens me to see so much in the public space about Islamic scriptural guidance that is driven by certain hadith that most Muslims intellectually dismiss in our daily lives as being false.”

Now the no one in the Islamic world pretends that he speaks for most Muslims. Or did I miss Jasser being appointed the new Caliph? Prove your claims Zudhi. Name just one of the four Sunni schools of law (madhahib) – the Hanafi, the Maliki, the Shafi’i and the Hanbali that dismiss the Sahih Ahadith. Yes Jasser, MOST Muslims are Sunnis.

As you can see Jasser tried to downplay the Sahih (authentic) Ahadith, but if we take a look at his website you will see that he actually supports the Ahadith!

We will empower Muslim youth to have the confidence to take personal intellectual ownership of their own interpretation of Islam, the Qur’an, Hadith (sayings of the Prophet Muhammad), and shariah (Islamic jurisprudence) and separate mosque and state.

Maybe Zuhdi would like to interpret the following Sahih Ahadith? Please keep in mind that there is a reason the word “Sahih” is in front of the names Bukhari, and Muslim, and not Jassers. They are authority figures, Jasser is not!

Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Verse:–”You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.

Sahih Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366:

It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

Come on Zudhi….TRY and spin the meaning behind those verses. I will not be holding my breath waiting for you to actually respond….

Over two years ago Jasser wrote an article for The American Thinker in which he bashed me, and he has been on the run ever since. Jasser needs to MAN UP and debate me on Islam. My challenges to him are not going to disappear, and I also challenge World Net Daily to redeem themselves for publishing such an irresponsible article, and set up a debate between me and America’s “moderate” Muslim poster boy, Zuhdi “the fraud” Jasser.

 Link to article

 

  • Andrea Quinn

    Excellent! Well done Chris!!

    • http://www.theobamafile.com/index.htm MUGRIM MUHAMMAD

      THIS ZUHDI! Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.” Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers [Non Muslims and those NOT Muslim enough] wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
      Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
      WITHOUT HATE.MURDER,RAPE,MUTILATION,AND LYING ISLAM WOULD PERISH!

  • Christ’s Possession

    Even Dr. Jasser admits, in an indirect way, that islam is turning towards obeying the latter verses… which we all know is the true interpretation of the Koran. He had doubts of moderates being successful in thwarting the violence in islam when being interviewed last week by Sean Hannity (who also is in denial as to moderates being at all successful in stopping the march of violent islam). paraphrase

    I view anyone who won’t debate as being cowardly and possibly wrong in their beliefs. Dr. Jasser I greatly desire to see you debate Christopher Logan and put this issue to rest… that is if you think you are right.

    • admin

      Exactly! Let’s get to the bottom of this issue already. Because in the meantime, America is slowly being devoured by Islam.

      Thank you for your support!

  • ChrisLA

    In 2010, Dr. Jasser joined a symposium sponsored by Frontpage Magazine, along with a former militant Muslim (Tawfik Hamid), a non-Muslim with a Ph.D. in Islamic History (Timothy Furnish), and an author of ten books on Islam (Robert Spencer). The topic was “Moderate Islam.” The well-reasoned discourse essentially demolished each one of Jasser’s main talking points about Moderate Islam, just as Loganswarning has done above. It is a good read. See: http://frontpagemag.com/2010/jamie-glazov/symposium-the-worlds-most-wanted-a-%e2%80%9cmoderate-islam-%e2%80%9d/

    • admin

      Glad we are on the same page here Chris! Keep up the fight!

  • http://www.crusadersarmory.tk/ dajjal

    Never lose sight of Surah al-Baqarah 2:85 which prohibits selectivity, Surah at-Taubah 9:38-39 which curse nonparticipants in Jihad and 9:120 which promises Muslims who injure or enrage Kuffar an upgrade in Allah’s Celestial Bordello.

    Constantly bear in mind Believers: who they are and what they do as revealed in Surah Al-Anfal 1-6, Surah at-Taubah 9:111 & Surah al-Hujuraat 49:15.

    Allah said “fight them” in 8:39 & 9:29. Moe said he was ordered to fight with men in Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387. Islamic law says that “The caliph makes war… fights all other peoples” in Reliance of the Traveller Book O, Chapter 9.8-9.

    Who can obtain a clue? Who will obtain a clue? Who will act on that clue, disrespectfully demanding that Islam be outlawed?

    If you have the fortitude and resolve requisite to sign this petition, it will emailitself to your Representative & Senators, with a link to the fatal facts the need to know. http://www.petition2congress.com/8001/international-quran-petition/?src=widget

  • Stephen Gash

    Islam cannot be fought. Muslims must be fought. We didn’t fight Nazism in WW2, we fought Nazis. The Cold War was not fought against communism, it was fought against communists.

    Islam without Muslims would not be a threat. Without Muslims Islam would not exist.

    There are no moderate Muslims. The term “moderate Muslim” is an oxymoron that non-Muslim morons use, or deceitful Muslims.

    That’s it folks. Grasp the nettle.

    • admin

      Yes, there are numerous prominent non-Muslims who are desperately trying to redefine who and what the enemy are. Cowards.

    • eib

      Quote:
      Islam without Muslims would not be a threat. Without Muslims Islam would not exist.
      end

      Hence we see the reason that Sharia demands that apostate Muslims be murdered.
      It is through violence that Islam is spread.
      And it is through violence that it is maintained. The template for every relationship in the society is that of master and slave.

    • http://hats392.blogspot.com Chief_Cabioch

      Absolutely Correct

  • caroleigh

    My inner ”self” always seemed to question Dr. Jasser. When ever he was on Bill O’Reilly or Hannity, even Glenn Beck had him on I think, something always was missing. Thank You Logan’s warning for telling the real story. I’ve said it a million times. There are no good Muslims.

    Stephen Gash is right, without muslims islam would not exist. These cockroaches are in every crack, breeding and flourishing. Is anyone searching for fumigator’s?

    Good report L.W.

    • admin

      Thank you Caroleigh. I sent my article to the author of the Jasser interview, Jasser, and WND. Not one of them has responded. Apparently the truth does not matter to them.

      • caroleigh

        PLEASE keep us posted of any response…..

        • admin

          I will post an update later in the week.

          • caroleigh

            HUMMM, looks like the people around Zuhdi were just too busy to respond, but being a Muslim is hard work what with lifting your ass five times a day between beheadings amputations and female genital mutilations ………………………. to bad one of them couldn’t have gotten Jody Aires, ………… Travis Alexander might still be alive.

  • http://www.unfittolead.net Nedd

    Hey, Chris, old Stop the ACLU Nedd here. I kinda forgot about you (have been away from the Internet for awhile) but saw this item linked from another site – can’t recall which one offhand but I had to check it out and respond.

    I think your tone is just a tad rough around the edges with the “players” you’re playing against but at the same time, your points about Zuhdi (as well as ACT and Pipes) are unquestionably spot on. I personally like the guy but as you have succinctly pointed out, there is only one Islam and there is no “moderate” Muslim mosque movement trying to counter Sharia (AKA “default”) Islam. Wherever Jasser gets his numbers of followers from his website (if they truly exist), there’s no movement I can see to “straighten out” the “radicals” (AKA “normal” adherents). If they were around, I believe they would have manifested themselves a long time ago.

    I applaud you for taking the bold and uncompromising stand that you do. I look at what you do as akin to the backers of the homosexual agenda. Their Achilles heel is homosexuals leaving the lifestyle. Once word is fully out that anyone can quit it, that they’re not born that way and that people indeed have walked away, their three legged table of cards collapses and it’s over.

    The Achilles heel of Islam is that there is only one Islam and anyone trying to say otherwise can easily be debunked with the information from your website and others like TheReligionofPeace.org. The sooner the public realizes there is only one true Islam, the sooner we can win this battle but there are so many skulls of mush out there that believe otherwise that it will likely take several lifetimes to win this war, if at all. Of course, I believe Islam would collapse if Mecca was bombed and destroyed (as I heard rumors of discussion on this during the Bush years) but I digress.

    When I ran Stop the ACLU, we had a Muslim supporter join our cause who ran the website ReformIslam.org. Perhaps you may remember the site. The individual (from Nebraska) had a web page up of all the verses in the Koran he wanted removed or otherwise isolated because it demonized others. I thought it was a very courageous effort (don’t recall Jasser ever advocating something like that) but I wonder if in the end something happened to him since the site (obviously including that particular web page) is now a portal page.

    But back to Jasser – I think his credibility would skyrocket if he would admit that there is no so-called “Moderate” Islam. Better yet, he should simply become a Christian but since the Koran teaches that Jews and Christians are the sons of apes and pigs, perhaps that might not go so well. Either way, I think he should try to reconcile that verse given his current view and practice of Islam but I won’t hold my breath on that.

    Thanks for letting me air and I’ll be back. Great job you’re doing here, pardner.

    (BTW, the website of mine listed is active but will be removed soon as it is no longer needed.)

    • admin

      Hey Nedd!

      How have you been? That Reform Islam group was “Muslim Against Sharia”, lead by Khalim Massoud, and Linda Ahmed. They both used similar speech patterns, and both disappeared at the same time. Khalim was incredibly foulmouthed and hated when I challenged his “campaign”.

      Nice to hear from you, and keep in touch bro!

      Chris

  • http://undiscoveredrealms.wordpress.com/ Marlene Wilkins

    ‘Moderate’ islam…yeah, OK…I’ll file that under ‘Nonsensical delusions’.
    NO such thing as ‘Moderate’ islam.
    That idiot in the article is a zakat-paying aider-and-abettor of Terrorists…and she bloody well knows it too. 80%+ of all zakat monies goes into funding terrorist groups.
    Same with Halal cerification monies.

    If one is a muslim, one MUST pay the zakat. The zakat funds terrorists, thus the zakat-payers are terrorists-by-willing-complicity.
    Sure blows the legs out from under that whole ‘moderate’ nonsense doesn’t it?
    Also, folks, lets look at how much money from islamic nations goes into helping Humanitarian causes…
    Gee…that was quick…Zero.
    Charity in islam is for islamites only to recieve.
    Dot…islam makes NO exceptions to that rule.

    Also, ‘moderate’ muzzies were openly cheering on 9/11…even up here.
    Says it all.

    Listen up, muzzies, and listen close…
    islam will NOT live to see the dawn of the new Century after this one.
    1400 years of your genocidalist rhetoric.
    Nothing can save you from us, not ‘allah’, not the UN, not the ‘governments’…not your paltry, cowardly, weak efforts at ‘fighting’…all you really do is 99% of the time unarmed civilians for target preactice and call yourselves ‘warriors’.
    You think you’re safe, that islam is reigning supreme…
    You are Not.
    It is Not.

    We…are coming for you.
    We are Everywhere. We are Everyone.

    Run to the only safe haven we allow, muzzies; Somalia.
    Outside somalia, you are fair game and Combatants.

    • admin

      I Tweeted my article, to the author of the Jasser “interview”. Of course she did not respond. Neither did WND.

      Keep up the fight!

    • admin

      If you want me to add you to my blogroll, please let me know.

      Thanks!

      Chris

    • http://hats392.blogspot.com Chief_Cabioch

      there is NO Such thing as a Moderate muslim

  • Michael C

    Zuhdi Jasser says:

    “We will empower Muslim youth to have the confidence to take personal intellectual ownership of their own interpretation of Islam “ etc.

    The Secretary General of the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America, Dr Salah al Sawy, has a very different verdict:

    “The Ummah [Muslim community] possesses no power except to acknowledge and obey…”.www.Translating Jihad.com 30 March 2011.

    As Tom Trento observes, Jasser is promoting Zuhdiism.

    • admin

      Hey Michael!

      Does Zuhdi think he is the new Caliph?

      That is what Islam is…..slavery.

  • http://hats392.blogspot.com Chief_Cabioch

    It’s all down to “taqyyia”, you simply CANNOT EVER believe ANYTHING a Muslim tells You…..They LIE, that’s ALL they do….look at obama, how many lies have come out of his
    mouth?…..each time he opens it…