ACT!’s Brigitte Gabriel, $elling America a Bridge to Nowhere!

Well unfortunately the Queen of False Hope, Brigitte Gabriel, is back to doing her thing. Spreading false hope and censoring those who call her on her “moderate” Muslims are coming to the rescue nonsense. After my last encounter with ACT! in which the queen took a massive beating on FaceBook, and the fact that Zuhdi Jasser’s colleague Raquel Evita admitted to me that their “moderate” campaign has NO Mosque support, you would think Brigitte would be an adult and admit she was wrong. Or at a minimum, change course. But apparently the queen’s ego is too big, and or the money coming in from telling people what they want to hear is just too good to give up. Either way, her message of “moderates” coming the rescue is detrimental to America. It did not happen in the UK and it will NOT happen here. 

This afternoon my anti-Islam friend Tommy Hunt (please friend him on Twitter), alerted me to an email that ACT! had sent out to it’s chapter leaders. (I know there are a lot of great foot soldiers in ACT! who do not agree with Gabriel’s “moderate” message. This is not about them. This is about Queen Gabriel.)

From ACT!

This is a letter I didn’t want to write. I regret having to write it.

As you know all too well, the resistance movement is filled with brave souls who may differ in their respective conclusions and tactics regarding radical Islam.

ACT! for America has worked hard to earn the respect of lawmakers and other decision makers around the nation regarding our careful attention to utilizing only documented facts and avoiding unnecessary rhetoric. As a result, Lisa Piraneo can walk into a growing number of Congressional offices and get a sincere hearing

LW: I remember when I first took on this issue, there were plenty of Brits who did not want to lay the blame on Islam itself. They also were saying “radical Islam”. How did that work out?

Back in March Brigitte stated that Zudhi Jasser “truly” represents Muslims in America. That is not a documented fact. That is a flat out lie!

I expect that not everyone in this movement agrees with all of our strategies and tactics. That’s okay. We welcome opportunities to discuss these differences, maintain coalition opportunities, and build bridges when necessary. At times we find we agree more than we realized. Sometimes, there is simply an understanding to agree to disagree and each party moves on.

LW: That is another lie by Gabriel. It is well known that she went on a blocking frenzy on Facebook after my last encounter with ACT!. She was even blocking those who were being very respectful to her. Such as Dawn Ellen, and Melanie Oberg.

We respect those who disagree if they truly have a desire to make a difference in the protection of the nation.

Is that so? From one of the queen’s guards, Guy Rodgers:

It’s easy for armchair quarterbacks like Mr. Logan to post on their blogs from the sidelines and snipe at those of us actually on the field fighting the fight.

From her other guard Kelly Cook:

Logan, let us know when you’re ready to roll up your sleeves and actually do something rather than armchair quarterback the real achievers in this war. Until then, please think before you open your mouth.

From ACT! spokesperson Chris Slick:

Christopher Logan is a man with radical views and has nothing better to do than to sit around and blog about other people like Brigitte Gabriel and Guy Rodgers who are actually making a tangible difference.

At this point Gabriel reminds me of a politician who will say anything to just to get through the moment.

Usama Dakdok, a pastor in Florida, contacted us several months ago in a letter that refused to allow for any disagreement on the issue of the existence of moderate Muslims. He flatly stated that:
1) Moderate Muslims do not exist.
2) That any effort to say otherwise is an extreme error.
3) And that if we didn’t agree with him in full, he threatened the following: “We need to talk. The matter is very urgent. Please call me back. I will not send you another email. If you choose to ignore this email, I must teach the truth concerning you and your organization as Christ commands me to do.”

For the record, we absolutely reached out to him in an email that explained in detail that no group is monolithic. Are all Christians devout? Is every volunteer in ACT! for America as energetic and motivated as the next? The answer is a resounding “no” for any group ever organized.

LW: It is true that not all are equally motivated, but even if they are just paying zakat (charity) they are part of the problem.

Neither are Muslims a uniform group of equally passionate individuals. The full spectrum is represented in every group between those who are very devout to those who were simply born to parents who say they’re Muslim. These are cultural Muslims or moderate Muslims. They care little about reading the Koran or praying.

There is another category of moderate Muslims as well. This group believes the Koran, Hadith and the Sira have been misinterpreted over the centuries. They are trying to reform the rest of Islam into a growing number who reject mainstream interpretations on jihad and Sharia law (as elaborated in such works as Reliance of the Traveler). Leaders such as Zuhdi Jasser, Manda Irvin and Tawfik Hamid are a few of the brave souls who have willingly painted a bullseye on their back against the purveyors of Sharia. To turn a blind eye to these courageous leaders would be a grave injustice.

LW: You really messed up here Brigitte. You are implying that you have read the Reliance of Traveller. Well if that is true you would know that it says if a Muslim denies any verse of the Koran they have apostatized.

Apostasy from Islam (Ridda) p. 597
ACTS THAT ENTAIL LEAVING ISLAM

(7) to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it:

It is ludicrous to believe that the Islamic community is going to play follow the leader with Jasser and co., and that is shown in the fact that Jasser’s “moderate” campaign has NO Mosque support. That is besides another fact, which is that Jasser helps have Mosques be build here. How come the Mosques he helps build are not pushing his message?! I know queen, you hate the tough questions! Maybe Gabriel would at least like to explain how adding more Islam to the equation helps the situation? I highly doubt it though.

ACT! officials lying and spreading false hope is the grave injustice to America. Am I supposed to be more concerned with your little group of “moderate” Muslims than America herself? You certainly seem more concerned with them.

 

(Hat tip on the picture to warrior Marine Jarrad Winter.)

We are not going to win this war with your message. It is the equivalent of going to the doctor and being told you have a life threatening disease, but the problem will end up resolving itself. The proof that the “moderate” message is a huge failure is right here:

by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
November 23, 2004

There is good news to report: The idea that “militant Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution” is finding greater acceptance over time.

We also see that Pipes does not care that he is misleading America, as he is carrying the same message today!

APRIL 20, 2012 12:00 A.M.

Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes has said, “The problem is radical Islam. The solution is moderate Islam.”

How much more time should be wasted in promoting that notion? How much longer until Gabriel, Daniel Pipes, Frank Gaffney, and Brooke Goldstein admit they need to change course? Five years, 10, 20?

Back to ACT!:

This is what I attempted to explain to Mr. Dakdok. He never contacted us again.

Yesterday I received a heads up from a chapter leader in Missouri. Mr. Dakdok had reached out to him directly and asked to come to his chapter as a guest speaker so that, presumably, he can inform the chapter about what he believes are grave errors in judgment by ACT! for America.

Of course the queen wouldn’t want that….

We’re not thin-skinned. We don’t lose any sleep knowing not everyone agrees with everything we do. That goes with the territory of doing this kind of work.

Sure you are. That is why you turned Commie and silenced all of those people criticizing you on Facebook.

However, it is quite another thing for someone to issue an ultimatum and in effect threaten the organization, and then try to go behind our back directly to our chapters in order to undermine our efforts to protect the greatest nation in the world.

I respectfully request that you keep this in mind should you be contacted by this individual. In order to win, we must keep our eye on the prize while respectfully dealing with situations such as this.

In other words she is blacklisting Mr. Dakdok.

There is another factor to consider. Mr. Dakdok’s presentation does not align with our non-sectarian policy for chapter meetings. While we respect his love for Christianity, a chapter meeting is not the place for this message. We are non-sectarian because we want anyone to be able to feel comfortable addressing radical Islam, whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Budhist, atheist, etc. (Refer to chapter manual for more details.)

ACT! could have just asked Mr. Dakdok not to proselytize his religion during his speech. But that is not what his blacklisting is about. It is all about Gabriel not wanting more of her organization waking to up to her message of false hope.

ACT! for America has become the largest national security grassroots organization through discernment, hard work and strategic thinking. As we grow larger, you can expect the debate to intensify. Thank you for everything you do and your support of ACT! for America.

Speaking of debate Brigitte. Instead of sending your two henchman or the naive and ignorant Chris Slick here, why don’t you come out of the shadows and debate me on this? Explain how Islam will reform. If you are being honest with America you will be able to back up your argument, right? None of your employees could do it, Jasser included. So now it is on YOU.

I’ll start with three translations of Koran verse 10:64. How is Jasser going to get around this?

Koran 010.064
YUSUFALI: For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity.
PICKTHAL: Theirs are good tidings in the life of the world and in the Hereafter – There is no changing the Words of Allah - that is the Supreme Triumph.
SHAKIR: They shall have good news in this world’s life and in the hereafter; there is no changing the words of Allah; that is the mighty achievement.

The floor is yours BG:

 

 

72 comments for “ACT!’s Brigitte Gabriel, $elling America a Bridge to Nowhere!

  1. Sara Elkins
    August 25, 2012 at 7:40 am

    Dear LW. Personally I don’t think any arab is good unless he or she converts to Christianity.

    In this very moment I really believe we should not argue among us. We should not judge others intentions and fight all together to fire the muslims, the muslim brotherhood from our government and from our country.

    Then, we will have plenty of time to dissagree.

    Brigitte worked every day to warn us of the dangers of this invasion. She is risking her own life all the time. So are we.
    Your real enemy is not Brigitte. Even when we disagree on some details.

    • kope
      August 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm

      Sara Elkins

      Dear LW. Personally I don’t think any arab is good unless he or she converts to Christianity…..

      if arabs convert to christianity would your allow sand niggers arab christians into your churches? i dont thing so just like you dont allow black nigger in your church

      beside christianity is dumb religion and dying

      • Robin Shadowes
        August 25, 2012 at 5:34 pm

        Pislam is even more dying. No, truly it’s a stinking carcass as Mr Ataturk noticed 100 years ago.

  2. Tommy Hunt
    August 25, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Brigitte Gabriel, in effect, is saying that the “moderate Muslims” are Muslims just as much as the devout Muslims are Muslims and that we need to support these moderates in their efforts to change Islam from what it actually is and always has been to what we wish it to be now.

    First of all, this is an admission that Islam is bad, i.e. that Islam, as it has always existed, isn’t compatible with Western civilization – that Islam is, in fact, RADICAL and that it is doing harm to us. I doubt Ms Gabriel intended to make this point because it contradicts her previous position.

    Secondly, she makes the claim that a re-invented, re-interpreted version of Islam by Muslims who don’t follow Islam is Islam. Think about that for a moment. She’s trying to convince us that Muslims who have no interest in reading the Koran or praying are real Muslims. That Muslims who reject the 1400 year old accepted interpretation of the doctrine are real Muslims. Ms Gabriel is trying to convince us that these phony Muslims are going to transform the actual real evil islam into a phony good Islam and we’ll all be singing Kum ba yah in no time. She’s trying to convince us that an Islam that doesn’t actually exist is the real Islam. Are you freaking kidding me?

  3. Chris LA
    August 25, 2012 at 7:53 am

    As someone who has supported Logan, Dakdok, and Gabriel, I must admonish Christopher for his rather narrow view of the Islamist issue. As Gabriel wrote, no ideological group is monolithic. (A recent shocker was the revelation that most Catholic women practice pharmaceutical birth control!) A black or white, all or nothing approach to Islam will only set up a trench warfare situation where factions will have no option but to die in their entrenched positions. Jasser is not a movement, but he represents a discernible fissure in the monolith of Islamic ideology that allows like-minded people to disassociate themselves from the draconian and violent aspects of the ideology. Despite admonitions in the Bible and Quran that every command must be followed, most Jews, Christians, and Muslims do not practice their religions to the letter. Only 2% of Iran’s adults attend Friday prayers. While Logan, Dakdok, and Gabriel are using different tactics to push back against the Islamization of America, ALL of those tactics are helpful. Those players and their followers should not be attacking and undermining one another. The ideology of Islam is not sustainable in a rational, open society because it is based on a lie — that the Quran is the verbal word of the Creator. One way or another, thinking Muslims will have to move away from that lie. The more options for an escape, the better. Let’s all work together.

    • Tommy Hunt
      August 25, 2012 at 8:06 am

      It’s not helpful to pretend an Islam that isn’t Islam is Islam. A rational open society depends on truth not fantasy.

    • Roger Anderson
      August 25, 2012 at 9:48 am

      That is the main problem. There is no ‘working together’ when some are working against the truth, pretending to be working against islam when they are in fact supporting it in the manner that GB is doing. All too many so-called moderate muslims support radical islam either through their silence, paying the zakat and supporting mosques that teach jihad and sharia.

      • PatriotUSA
        August 25, 2012 at 11:34 pm

        Tommy and Chris are spot on here.

        BG and ACT have done some good thing but they have undermined their own efforts by taking this sad position regarding ‘moderate muslims.’ There is no such thing and call me and other CJ’s what you want.

        What’s next? ACT saying Grover Norqusit is fighting the islamization of the USA?

        All of islam and sharia law suck and are completely and totally incompatible with Western civilization and especially our CONSTITUTION.

        “There is no peace peace within Islam and with Islam there can NEVER be peace.”

    • admin
      August 27, 2012 at 3:33 pm

      It is not a narrow view. It is called being honest by acknowledging the “moderate” notion is a failed policy. But apparently and disappointingly you are in favor of me lying. Sorry that is not going to happen. You are correct Jasser is not a movement and ACT! needs to stop promoting him like he is. Doing so is NOT helpful, it is harmful.

    • admin
      August 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm

      In regards to your comment about Iran. So what? Don’t you see is happening there in regards to Pastor Nadarkhani?

    • admin
      August 27, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      What happens when the majority of Muslims do not want to move away, and Gabriel’s “moderate” nonsense fails. What’s the back up plan?

  4. Roger Anderson
    August 25, 2012 at 9:19 am

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/democrats-host-radical-muslims-at-charlotte/

    This is the result of the acceptance of “moderate muslims” … politicians giving a platform for the taking over of our government.

  5. Christ's Possession
    August 25, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Chris you can delete my above posting… I left a sentence out when I cut & pasted it in. Here is my entire correct posting:

    There are a lot of fallacies of argument put out by Gabriel, Jasser, Pipes and the rest of the very few pro-moderate’s in islam crowd. The main fallacy is that there is what proof? All we have really is maybe less than 5 moderate leaders in islam and about the same in the anti-”radical” islam crowd that are not muslims. We have seen Egypt go the way of the Muslim Brotherhood and it’s Shari’ah law. We see an American president and his DNC party supporting these violent islamic jihadist supremacists. So what do we have to stem the tide of islamic supremacy? All there is what to can count on your hands that are like the little dutch boys with their fingers in the dike of dangerous violent islamic supremacy i.e. islam. And no one else is coming to the rescue. And the dam of islam is about to burst. And those fingers aren’t going to do a darn thing to stop it.

    Moderatism in islam is a fallacy. It is insanity to think that about 10 leaders can stop the massive millions that have become “radicalized” in islam. Or shall I really state that these millions have merely come back to practicing the real islam and that alleged moderates in islam is merely an anomaly (a deviation from normal). This fantasy of moderates in islam is actually slowing down the fight against islam. Islam is this beast that must be defeated not by pretty words but by defending the Constitution against this external and now internal threat. We must get politicians who have the guts to stop mosques from being built and Shari’ah law from being allowed to compete with the Constitution.

  6. Jim Campbell
    August 25, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Hi Christopher you know me from Dangers of Allah. My experience with Brigette is that she is a self promoting fraud.

    When I was asked to start a website for my chapter of ACT I used the name of the wordpress website.

    All of her logos were appropriately posted and linked. I asked if you could put one of mine up as to direct people to my site as I’ve done for you.

    She said, I see no reason for that, we would be in “competition.”

    I replied competition? Isn’t the goal to get the world out? There are no moderated Muslims, they are either involved in stealth Jihad, radical Jihad or as I suspect in America call themselves Muslims but are not real participants.

    My experience completely turned me off from her and ACT. So now, I blog. http://www.actforamerica.wordpress.com NOT affiliated with ACT. http://www.dangersofallah.com Google me. Thanks for all your heard work.

    • Jim Horn
      August 26, 2012 at 10:27 am

      Brigitte Gabriel is narrowly focused for No. 1, Brigitte Gabriel. She refuses to share. She refuses to list books other than hers on her sites. She’s not a fraud, she’s just what she is – limited, and she seems to be hedging her bets.

      ACT for America is big and growing. It serves a useful purpose in educating those who know little to nothing about Islam, and this is good. It is incumbent on individuals in each chapter to reach out to one-another and take the next steps privately or in small groups to more strongly oppose the Mohammedans.

      Our problem is that we need to find a way to reach those within the various ACT chapters who want to move forward more aggressively (outside of Brigitte’s self focused realm) and then unite.

      • admin
        August 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

        Excellent comment Jim!

  7. Abdul Ameer
    August 25, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Excellent discussion! We who are fighting the fight against Islamization need to consider two things: 1) the truth about Islam; and 2)how best to present that truth to an American public which thinks of Islam as just another religions and, therefore, deserving of the trust and privileges which we accord other religions. If we hit them with the unassailable truth about the evil inherent in standard Islam, they will tune us out and not listen to what we have to say. Therefore, for practical, tactical purposes, we need to be careful how we approach people. The first stage in approaching them is to let them know that “Islamism” is a danger. Jasser and his very small band of merry Moslems might be useful to us at this stage so that we can fend off the charge that we are accusing “all Muslims”. The second stage is to get people to realize that “Islamism” is part of mainstream Islam and cannot be separated from Islam because both “Islamism” and Islam come from the same Koran. The first stage in our outreach to our fellow citizens involves shading the awful truth about Islam, unfortunately. I am sure that Brigitte Gabriel, Guy Rogers and Kelly Cook understand the tactical necessity of getting to the truth slowly when dealing with the public. What is the use of hitting the public over the head with the truth all at once if they only reject us and become more sympathetic to Muslims and Islam? It is one thing to discuss the truth among ourselves; it is quite another thing to present that truth to the public.

    • Tommy Hunt
      August 25, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      I don’t agree. That’s a cop out. It’s dishonest and cowardly. Not my style nor would it be any true American’s style I should think.

    • eib
      August 25, 2012 at 2:00 pm

      Quote:
      Jasser and his very small band of merry Moslems might be useful to us at this stage so that we can fend off the charge that we are accusing “all Muslims”.
      end

      Jasser and those who follow him are in real danger. In the strictest sense, they are apostates, and they all risk death every day.
      Their fight is not ours.
      They are not Westerners, and we do not really know where their sympathies lie with respect to the West.
      In Islamic terms, they are in danger, and will remain so for a long time.
      I have no intention of “using” any of them.

    • eib
      August 25, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      Quote:
      What is the use of hitting the public over the head with the truth all at once if they only reject us and become more sympathetic to Muslims and Islam?
      end

      When the knife is at their neck, and it will be before too long, then Americans will decide if they should submit.
      Some are bound to, others we don’t know, and then there are those who would rather die once than die a little every day for the rest of their lives.
      Halal slaughter . . . good practice for Jihad. Don’t you think?

    • eib
      August 25, 2012 at 2:06 pm

      In the counterjihad there is a saying.
      Don’t judge Islam by the Muslims you know, and don’t judge the Muslims you know by the standard of Islam.
      We have named the enemy– it is the false prophet and his message of conquest and hatred of the West.
      We will fight him on his own turf, discredit his faith in the eyes of every non-Muslim, and then it really won’t matter where the Muslims are.
      Their errancy will be seen and acknowledged, and no one will submit or bow to them.
      The only to fight Islam is through contempt.
      Violence is something they know too well, and something in which they have too much faith.

      • eib
        August 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm

        “only way”

    • bruce4100
      August 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      Hate to repeat this: The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend. Lets fight the good fight and sort out
      the details later.

      • Tommy Hunt
        August 25, 2012 at 3:21 pm

        I don”t consider ACT! for America the enemy of my enemy. In fact I consider ACT the friend of my enemy: Islam.

    • Roger Anderson
      August 25, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      In other words, lie so that they will accept us and what we have to say. NO THANKS! The hard truth is the only way to go so that there is absolutely no confusion on what that truth is.

    • kope
      August 25, 2012 at 5:55 pm

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    • Dajjal
      August 26, 2012 at 7:55 pm

      I dissent! Anything less than the full truth is a lie: kitman, which is deception by obfuscation.

      Chris displays relevant quotes from Islam’s canon of scripture,tradition & jurisprudence. I agree with that method and use it in my own blog posts.

      Islam has a standard which is established by Moe’s preaching, exemplified by his sunnah and codified in Shari’ah. That is Islam, nothing else is Islam. We need to expose it.

      Most people will not wade through thousands of pages of arcane shit. Those who will must quote the best, most clear parts and provide links for follow up.

      • emmi
        August 27, 2012 at 5:14 am

        Dajjal, I agree with you. Muslims in Europe are now attacking individuals on an unprecedented scale. The victims, who previously probably thought it best to be tolerant, will come across people like Chris (admin) and not feel the need to try to shrug off their pain, but will see the stark truth of why they were attacked. That it is part of a strategy to subdue people. Hopefully, when they realise that there are no moderate Muslims, they will join the growing push back. Some ‘moderate’ Muslims could be decoys, part of a fifth column.

  8. gfmucci
    August 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Dakdok’s message resonates with his audiences. It has the ring of truth in it. It matches the facts. ACT’s “radical Islam evil; moderate Islam good” message does not resonate. Why? Because it is a lie. It is not true. It is misleading. It is disingenuously politically pandering.

    The thing in Kelly’s message to ACT Chapters that really really rubs me the wrong way his his (ACT’s) problem with Dakdok mentioning his Christian religion as a contrast to Islam. ACT ought to welcome speakers of EVERY FAITH to contrast it with Islam. ACT should welcome Jews, Hindus, Shintos, Sikhs, Buddhists, Mormons, Catholics – all of them – to contrast their religions to Islam. As a Christian, I would love to hear a good presentation by Jews expounding on their faith in contrast to Islam.

    ACT is acting the role of the consummate dhimmi, actually Islamic apologist: Promoting the lie about “moderate” Islam’s “goodness” while prohibiting the expression of other faiths. That will not happen in the ACT Chapter I associate with. If ACT leaders clamp down on faith expression where I reside, I assure you a separate Islamic awareness group will be formed. All who attend our meetings would defect in mass.

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  10. RCCA
    August 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    It comes down to what Muslims want to call themselves if they don’t follow the religion strictly. It’s not up to me (or really anyone else) to decide whether or not they are “Muslims.”

  11. JT
    August 26, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    I frankly find you extremely narrow minded and red neck oriented. No matter what effort there is to turn Muslims away from vicious Islam, is a worthy effort. For you to slight them for it, is simply mind boggling and tells me you are a form of extremist yourself, who can only see your way and no other way to any solution.

    • gfmucci
      August 26, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      JT: It appears that you have also bought into the “truth is the new hate speech” mantra. Orthodox Islamic doctrine causes the concept of “moderate Muslim” to be extremely tenuous, and “moderate Islam” even more so. We in the West have a very polite but unhelpful predisposition of seeing all others through the lens of our Judeo-Christian ethics. To see Islam through that lens blinds us from reality. Islam’s Muslim mindset has no moral equivalence to what we are accustomed to. I just hope the majority of us realize that before it is too late.
      Do your name calling of “narrow minded” all you want. However, the terms “realistic” “honest” and “forthright” are more accurate.

      • JT
        August 26, 2012 at 4:58 pm

        Oh puhlease! What on earth do you pinhead know about me? Have you even lived in the middle east? I bet you haven’t. I know how evil Islam truly is. I know very well there doesn’t exist ANY moderate Islam. What exactly do YOU know but your fantasies?

        This fool jumping on ACT is an extremist himself. These people have the right to try and ride the storm calmly, and protect their children and families.
        There are many ways of reaching Muslims to turn away from that evil. Just getting them to listen is very difficult. Any small step to move them closer to realizing how horrid that religion is, is good work. Indoctrination cannot be rid by some ranting american having lame opinions. One medicine doesn’t fit all ailments and if this pathetic redneck think he somehow has all answers, he better get a reality check. People need to stick together to fight this evil.

        • admin
          August 26, 2012 at 5:48 pm

          I also have the right to point out what they are doing is not working. Just as I have the right to point out that BG and co. cannot even defend their position. That is why they insult, block, and run. Now why don’t you grow up and provide something more than promoting a failed policy?

          BTW, using your “logic” the Allied Forces were just as bad as the Nazis. If you think non-Muslims are going to win this war playing Mr. Nice Guy, you are greatly mistaken. (That is NOT a call for violence.)

        • admin
          August 26, 2012 at 5:52 pm

          Now I see, you are another Brit who does not have the stomach for this fight. (No offense to the brave Brits who do) I suggest you toughen up and face the reality of the situation. Otherwise before you know it you will be shining Abu Izzadeen’s shoes.

          • JT
            August 27, 2012 at 1:12 am

            LOL! What a pathetic extremist redneck American!

            How do you know what anyone is? You’re wrong. Post your full name and address so those you attack, can be on an equal platform.

            You are clearly some offspring off the KKK. Some of you people are so much like Muslims it’s astonishing. I am surprised you don’t convert. You could be bedfellows! You have the same mentality. Oh, I forgot, the conversion rate in the US is bigger than anywhere else. Figures…

            You know nothing about Islam apart from your little reading materials. That’s not enough. You need to know how to actually be effective to get rid of it. You clearly don’t know much of anything. Go and live in a Muslim country for a decade. If you think you can influence any changes to creeping Sharia by your tactics, you need to wake up.

            We are trying to abolish the Koran all together through legal means – which makes us very vulnerable to death threats. Unlike your lame activities ranting anonymously on some pathetic blog like a lunatic. All you can do is latch onto people to defame and insult them, it seems.

          • admin
            August 27, 2012 at 11:50 am

            Coming from the guy who will not even uses his full name and a fake email address. Like I said, using your “logic” those who fought the Nazis were just as bad as the Nazis themselves.

            Let me know when you want to debate the Islamic scriptures, we will see who the ignorant one is. Also you might want to actually look at your comments here. They are full of insults and little more.

          • admin
            August 27, 2012 at 11:54 am

            Now grow up and provide some evidence showng that what Jasser is doing is working.

    • Tommy Hunt
      August 26, 2012 at 5:06 pm

      JT: You’re commenting from a sensibility that accepts a non vicious Islam. No such Islam exists. Brigitte Gabriel is supporting a vicious Islam while pretending it is peaceful. The only way Muslims can turn away from “vicious Islam” is to become an apostate.

      • JT
        August 27, 2012 at 1:14 am

        Do you even realize you are like a pre-school student trying to educate a professor? This is absurd.

        • Tommy Hunt
          August 27, 2012 at 3:01 am

          Then prove me wrong oh pompous one.

    • admin
      August 26, 2012 at 5:45 pm

      Violent Islam is just part of the problem. It is the lawful jihad that is being waged that is the real threat. I have clearly proven Jasser’s campaign is a failure. It is a dream that let’s down the guard of some non-Muslims, because it is an easy out. It is mind boggling that you want to continue with a proven failed policy. Facing the reality of the situation is not extremism. It is being responsible.

  12. kope
    August 26, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    lol

    like i said before you jack asses will be fighting amoung yourself

    • emmi
      August 27, 2012 at 5:33 am

      Kope, you call it fighting, we call it free speech. There is a saying (Western so don’t try claiming it came from Islam)’when everyone in a very large group thinks alike, then someone isn’t thinking’.
      Please look at how Muslims all follow the same rules about sex, dress, food, hair, frequency of prayers, irrationally constantly washing certain areas of the face, body, limbs, banning music etc..
      On this site, you have condemned bikinis, yet see nothing wrong with amputations, hanging of gays, forced marriage to little girls and stoning of female rape victims.
      Enjoy happiness by thinking for yourself and make your own choices.

    • Brit in exile
      August 28, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      Hello Kope, again. Are you still waiting for the downfall of the West ? And the downfall of all prosperity and welfare, education and healthcare with it when we are no longer in control?
      Are you really so excited, WHY? What is in it for YOU and yours Kope.??
      The promised 72 non- menstruating virgins after death?
      Well,? there must be something in it for you? Or are you a woman? Oh my, even worse, considering according to your “prophet” the “holy” Mo, mostly women are not only “deficient” in intelligence but they are also mostly going to hell ! ??

      You refuse to reply to my simple questions, or do they need to be even more simplified to receive more than a grunt for a reply?

  13. emmi
    August 27, 2012 at 5:57 am

    JT, people don’t have to go to the Middle East to judge how Islam should be stopped from taking over the West. The evidence is there and those in Europe who bang on about ‘moderate’ Muslims are rewarding criminals with their silence. Most Muslims in the U K want sharia law, 40% of those asked want stoning and amputations. They want every woman in the UK to be circumcised and covered in a burka. They want an end to democracy, freedom and free speech. Lord Ahmed threatened to have 10,000 Muslims attack Parliament if Geert Wilders, a Dutch politician,were allowed to visit Britain. His supporters’ screamed for Mr Wilders’ head on a spike.
    Was it the Turkish president who said ‘there is no such thing as moderate Muslims, there is only Islam’ and threw in for good measure words to the effect that mosques are Islamic barracks.
    I have looked, but so far can find no ‘moderate’ Muslims, as none of them disagrees with this. I don’t have a redneck and I loathe the KKK. Many non-Muslim immigrants have enriched the UK and behave in a peaceful way Muslims, on the other hand carry banners stating ‘Behead the infidel’. I’ve yet to see a moderate Muslim snatch a banner and trample it where it belongs, in the mud.

  14. Brit is exile
    August 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Chris is right. Unfortunately there is no compromising with Islam. The Crusaders didn’t and we can’t. The Israeli’s also learned this the hard way. The only language islam knows is force. A Palestinian even told an Israeli this. They laugh at kindness and tolerance, it only empowers them he said. Sane humans respond in kind. Not Muslims .Some are “okay” as I know some but they are the non-religious cultural ones, not even “moderates”, almost non-Muslims.The best though are ex-Muslims.!

    Learn about the true history of Jihad in the middle ages and how it was crushed by the Crusaders who are now so demonised:
    http://www.historyofjihad.org

    The site is often down (unsurprisingly as tells the truth) so be patient !

    • emmi
      August 28, 2012 at 3:53 am

      We must stand up to bullies, never let them get the upper hand, particularly the inbred neanderthal types.

  15. Michael Sparks
    August 27, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    New to your Blog, big Atlas fan. Enjoy the passionate debate. I justed started to read BG’s book “because they hate”, your comments
    are very timely as I had not really formed an opinion of her “cause”. I have seen a couple of youtube clips and liked her passion so bought her book. Thank You for your good work, I will be following you in the future and will take a more cautious view of BG’s book and ACT as a whole.

    • admin
      August 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm

      Hi Michael!

      Atlas rocks! Here is what her and the other half of the Dynamic Duo have to say on the “moderate” Islam issue.

      Pamela Geller: I have long derided the “moderate Islam” meme as a theory with no basis in reality or history. It’s wishful thinking, dangerous, and suicidal.

      Robert Spencer:I recently participated in a FrontPage Symposium, “The World’s Most Wanted: A ‘Moderate Islam,’” about that great unicorn in which everyone believes and depends upon but which no one has ever actually seen, moderate Islam. (R.S.)

      Thanks for dropping by!

  16. doris
    August 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    BG’s book started me on my search for answers after 9/11,great book. The only time muslims are “moderate”, is when their population numbers are low,population grows, violence grows.

    • emmi
      August 28, 2012 at 3:47 am

      Doris, part of the Strategy Plan set out by the Muslim Brotherhood. We, in the West have helped Muslim Brotherhood rebels to gain power through the Arab Spring in the Middle East. They are now on their killing spree in Syria under the guise of introducing democracy. They certainly know how to get the West on their side.

      • Brit in exile
        August 29, 2012 at 2:35 am

        Very true Emmi. Assad is not the brutal dictator the West make him out to be.They are working with th brotherhood maniacs to bring him down.
        It is also part of the Nazi plan for a Muslim take-over Europe Emmi.The pieces are beginning to now fit into the puzzle very well.
        See this video when Queen Beatrix ( daughter of Nazi Bernhard) visited Turkey in 2004. It is obvious what the intentions of this unelected “head of State” are !

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUjbkzh4fE

        The interesting bit starts at 4.40

        • Brit in exile
          August 29, 2012 at 2:36 am

          Correction: the visit was in 2007.
          the Dutch held EU presidency in 2004.

          • emmi
            August 29, 2012 at 5:47 am

            Thanks Brit. Interesting link. David Cameron our Prime Minister is impatient to get Turkey into the European Union. 70million Turks who are now going towards fundamentalist Islam, will be allowed to settle in the UK. Instant takeover.

          • Brit in exile
            August 29, 2012 at 9:53 am

            Agree emmi, but very few see it coming .
            Cameron too??? Hollande also of France .
            I know a lot of ex-Muslims and Eastern Orthodox Christians. They say muslims tell them (believing they are also Muslims or warning them to become Muslim !) that: “we will soon take over Europe, take everything off the Europeans and make them into our slaves”

            What do these Muslims know that we don’t ? it MUST have to do with Turkey and EU membership , as I just cannot see any other way they can “take over soon”?

  17. doris
    August 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Michael,..I would like to suggest a book by Ariana Falaci,called “Force of Reason”. So powerful my hands would shake . She called Robert Spencer her best “bud”.

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  19. doris
    August 29, 2012 at 11:46 am

    emmi, This “arab spring” was set up to surround Israel with enemies with no restraint from their “evil dictators”.We paid these dictators to keep peace,now,people in the west are involved with the muslim brotherhood to help them destroy Israel. Much evil.I agree with Brit in exile, Assad not killing his own people.People in power here,demanding we send “help” to rebels who are killing everyone.

  20. doris
    August 29, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Hi Chris, I agree with you ,and ,believe ,unquestioningly when you say there can be no moderate islam. Just wanted to tell you I watched video of Brigitte Gabriel making an anti-sharia speech in Nashville ,and,she did a good job.

    • admin
      August 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm

      Thanks Doris!

  21. emmi
    August 31, 2012 at 3:33 am

    Brit in Exile. Muslims are attempting to take over Europe by producing ten times more children than non-Muslims, they are trying to get into government positions, they build more mosques than they need and buy up the surrounding land by threats and low price offers. When enough Muslims are in a neighbourhood it becomes a no-go area for non-Muslims and police. These ghettoes expand and join up. The Muslims plan to do the same with whole cities so that the blot spreads. They declare these areas as sharia and forbid dancing, alcohol,homosexuals and women with uncovered hair. The EDL march in with their own posters declaring otherwise! ‘This is a non-sharia area and you can eat,drink and wear what you like, dance and sing’.
    Muslims don’t apply for planning permission. They just go ahead and start the building of mosques or change use of a shop to a mosque or a stinking kebab shop, until someone complains. Planning permission is hastily given – usually Muslim in Planning Dept. They are not allowed by imams to obey infidels’ laws, only Allah’s brutal orders.

    If they are not stopped, their children will take the best jobs, introduce sharia law, anyone not converting will be killed according to this law as it is allowed. Only useful non-Muslims will be allowed to live and that will be on a low wage and heavy jizzya, because Europe will then be unbearably
    overcrowded. Their weapons at the moment are multiculturalism, cries of ‘Islamophobia’ ‘racism’ ‘our human rights’ and seeking for pity to make us feel guilty about our better lives.
    Muslims insult us on a daily basis, using put downs which are surreptitiously weakening us. They are dismantling our history and culture.
    They are in what I believe is Stage 3 of the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy Plan to take over the West, ie Speak openly about their intentions. Stage 4, I believe, is take over. In other countries they use swords and machetes when they have sufficient numbers of jihadists.
    Google FBI, Muslim Brotherhood Strategy Plan.
    I hope this answers your question and that I don’t sound patronising in giving you information you already have.
    America must beware! There is no time for treading on eggshells around these invaders. They use violence and look forward to a life where they do even less work than at present. They want easy prosperity supplied by someone else. Ordinary Muslims go on the Internet and state that they will take over Britain one day and throw us out. Muslims who claim to be moderate are not following Islamic rules, so cannot be Muslims.

  22. Brit in exile
    September 1, 2012 at 7:02 am

    All true emmi, thanks and no you don’t sound patronising in the least, just well informed and very very aware and we need more awareness amongst other people as it is now getting dangerous, and civil war may break out soon ( what the elites are planning maybe??)
    BTW, about Muslims taking jobs:I heard from a Copt that an Eyptian Coptic Christian doctor was sacked in GB and replaced by a Muslim, back in Egypt and is trying to warn everyone.

  23. emmi
    September 2, 2012 at 1:21 am

    Brit, thanks. I haven’t heard about the Coptic Christian doctor. Will keep eyes peeled for any info.
    You probably know that we have a two tier legal system in UK.Tried to warn MP early Nineties, complacent reply.
    Examples:
    Ex soldier suffering from PTS Syndrome stuck a pig’s head on a mosque gate. 4 months’ jail and judge said he was inciting racism.
    Four Muslim girls attacked a young couple coming out of club. Man tried to defend his girl but didn’t succeed as he didn’t want to be brutal towards women. The female victim beaten unconscious by Muz girls, now unable to work. Her boyfriend was reprimanded for assaulting the Muslim girls, given a caution.
    Muslim girls given 3 month suspended sentence. Gloated at their success, as usual.
    Demonstrator carried banner stating ‘Keep Muslim bombers off our streets’. 3months’jail.
    Black shrouded women carry banners in London stating ‘Your Holocaust is coming’, ‘Behead the Infidel’,’Your 9/11 is Coming”British police Burn in Hell’. After public protest, they were questioned by police. No action. I call this racism, incitement to murder and intimidation.
    This is why we have the EDL. We don’t want backward people running our country, especially as psychiatrists have said that their tendency to marry cousins has caused schizophrenia. View them when they protest in Britain and you will see that there is some evidence of this.

  24. Brit in exile
    September 10, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Agree emmi ! you are so right on everything !

    (Wish I could visit you next time I am “home” !!!)

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