Human Rights Lawyer Brooke Goldstein Promotes “Reform Koran”, Book of Slavery, Hatred, and Abuse!

Brooke Goldstein, one of the purveyors of false hope,  finally produced a copy of the “Reform Koran”.

   go read the reformist Koran I just sent you and cry

(For those who do  not know, “Miss Diagnosis” is a writer for the Huffington Post. Both her and my friend Jasser claim to be “reformers”. Both have blocked me on Twitter, and neither one has even attempted to help Brooke out against me. Apparently Brooke cannot figure why.)

Brooke is promoting a book that is full of human rights abuses, and calls for Islamic supremacy! Please keep in mind that she is a human rights attorney who believes this book of “reforming” Islam will lead to peace between Muslims and non-Muslims. She lives in an ignorant and naive fantasy world! Let’s take a closer look at what is in the “Reform Koran”…

Dominance by force if necessary:

 

3:83 Is it other than God’s system that they desire, when those in the heavens and the earth have peacefully surrendered to Him voluntarily or by force?

Islam allows slavery, is that not a human rights abuse?

Koran 4:92 Those who acknowledge cannot kill another who has also acknowledged except by accident. Whoever kills one who acknowledged by accident, then he shall set free an acknowledging slave, and give compensation to the family; except if they remit it. If he was from a people who are enemies to you, and he had acknowledged, then you shall set free an acknowledging slave.

The next one is a real beauty! I wonder if all “human rights” lawyers are supportive of killing a person for “spreading mischief” (Fasad).

 

Koran verse 5:32 It is because of this that We have decreed for the Children of Israel, “Anyone who kills a person who has not committed murder, or who has not committed mischief in the land; then it is as if he has killed all the people! Whoever spares a life, then it is as if he has given life to all the people.” Our messengers had come to them with clarification, but many of them are, after this, still transgressing on the earth.

 

Koran verse 5:33 The recompense of those who fight God and His messenger and seek to corrupt the land, is that they will be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off on alternate sides or that they be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in this world. In the Hereafter, they will they will have a great retribution;

Even the footnotes (p. 159) of the “Reform Koran” back up my point, and show just how dangerous fasad is.

 

Arabic word fasad means destruction, mischief, discord, warmongering or corruption. It is frequently contrasted with islah and its derivatives, which mean reform or promoting peace (7:56,85). Fasad is not mere faith or opinion; it refers to the acts of corruption or aggressive and destructive actions

Back in 2009 Iran was considering using fasad against BLOGGERS!

Anyone of us critics of Islam could easily be charged with it. Where in the “human rights” department does this law fall? But it does not end there. Apparently amputation is A-OK with this human rights lawyer. Brooke, did you even read the “Reform Koran”, or how about a Koran? It sure does not seem like it, and when it comes to Islam itself you make little sense.

Koran verse 5:38 The male thief, and the female
thief, you shall mark, cut, or cut off their hands/means as a punishment for their crime, and to serve as a deterrent from God. God is Noble, Wise

Brooke believes this book will bring peace. But it clearly divides Muslims and those who do not want to live under Islam.

 

Koran verse 5:51 O you who acknowledge, do not take the Jews and the Nazarenes as allies, for they are allies to one another; and whoever takes them as such from amongst you is one of them. God does not guide the wicked people.

Koran verse 5:57 O you who acknowledge, do not take as allies those who have taken your system as fun and games from among those who have been given the book before you and the ingrates. Be aware of God if you are those who acknowledge.

Koran verse 48:29 Muhammad, the messenger of God, and those who are with him, are severe against the ingrates, but merciful between themselves.

Domination of non-Muslims, whether we like it or not.

Koran verse 61:8 They wish to put out God’s light with their mouths. But God will continue with His light, even if the ingrates dislike it.

Koran verse 61:9 He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and the system of truth, so that it will manifest it above all other systems, even if those who set up partners dislike it.

Just like Mohammad, Muslims of today are ushering in Islam whether we like it or not, and they will continue to do so unless Islam and Muslim immigration are dealt with head on. People like Brooke are spinning America a fairy tale of some non-Muslim friendly version of Islam coming down the pike. While great leaders like Geert Wilders are telling us the truth, that Muslim immigration has to ended if we are to have any shot of winning this war. “Moderates” did not come to the rescue in Europe, and they will not here. The sooner the country faces this reality the better. You’ve been warned!

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46 comments for “Human Rights Lawyer Brooke Goldstein Promotes “Reform Koran”, Book of Slavery, Hatred, and Abuse!

  1. Christ's Possession
    June 20, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    No matter how much you show some people the literal words in the Qur’an they want to see something different, something more peaceful. Such a shame. Islam = the Qur’an = violence and hideous evil.

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 9:30 pm

      Brooke is uneducated on Islam.

      BrookeGoldstein ‏@GoldsteinBrooke
      @loganswarning @jarradwinter Muslims have a duty to reform Islam from Islamism which is the dominant sect.

      What I want to know is who fed her this nonsense?

  2. ruth cohen
    June 20, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    lady, offending the muslims like that wanting to water down their koran, should end up with you being their next target. they dont like people who touch their holy bloody writings. they love what is written
    where do you get the nerve to correct a muslim.you think you can free speech him into confusion
    hell you aint got a clue.

  3. June 20, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I am the translator of the Quran in two languages.

    The author of this article has either wrote this article while waiting in line for a hamburger in a MacDonald’s store, or he deliberately took verses out of their context or misrepresented them.

    I challenge Logan regarding ALL his claims and distortions against the Quran.

    For instance, he quotes a verse where the word SLAVE is mentioned, and HIGHLIGHTS the word, but ignores the few words before than encourages muslims to FREE the slaves.

    In fact, according to the Quran a muslim can never have a slave, since claiming to be the lord of slave is the biggest crime, since it is akin to claiming to be the god of another human being.

    I am not even sure whether this response will stay here or not, but if the author is honest regarding the truth of the matter I would like to meet him face to face to discuss all his criticism against the Quran.

    I will be ready to fly where he lives or if he chooses to come where I live, I will gladly pay for his expenses.

    Peace,
    Edip Yuksel
    http://www.19.org

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      The verse says free a slave. Not ALL slaves. Islam allows slavery. That was hard…

      “In fact, according to the Quran a muslim can never have a slave, since claiming to be the lord of slave is the biggest crime, since it is akin to claiming to be the god of another human being.”

      Mohammad himself owned slaves. Koran verse 33:50. You conviently left that part out, and I can show numerous translations that prove it. Done by scholars, and you do not get to magically erase the Sahih Ahadith. Nor do you dictate to anyone if they believe in them. There is a reason the word “Sahih” is in front of their name and not yours.

      “Those who acknowledge” means a Muslim.

      You are going to have to do a lot better than that. In the meantime lose the attitude.

      Here is a clue. The West is waking up to the threat of Islam, and your con will not change that. You wrote your book in 2007. Now name ONE Mosque in America that is promoting your so called Koran.

      Did Brooke run to you for help?

      • June 21, 2012 at 6:52 am

        Quibbling about verses and such is a total waste of time. The gist of Islam is in the life of the Prophet (may the police be upon him) As he is the example of the perfect man and definitely the guy all terrorists are emulating. He was a slave trader – END OF DEBATE.

        • admin
          June 21, 2012 at 7:36 am

          Good morning Susan!

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      You really need to lose the attitude. Here are the stats from your site. Your work is really taking off….such a following….

      6 visitors online now
      4 guests, 2 bots, 0 members
      Max visitors today: 27 at 12:19 am GMT
      This month: 94 at 06-14-2012 03:05 am GMT
      This year: 94 at 06-14-2012 03:05 am GMT
      All time: 94 at 06-14-2012 03:05 am GMT

      Out of over a billion Muslims.

      • June 21, 2012 at 6:54 am

        Nobody is trying to reach Muslims that is a lost cause as this article is pointing out. We are reaching noin muslims so that the CAIR busllshit won’t work any more. Go have your religion of piss but have it in another country. Islamneeds to be outlawed as the totalitariand form of sedition that it is. Religion? What a joke. People ARE beginning to laugh at it.

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 10:53 pm

      I see Mr. Spencer already smacked you down.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/br0nc0s/managed-mt/mt-search.cgi?search=Edip+Yuksel&IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20

      Then you invited him to Islam.! Too funny.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/10/name-edip-yuksels-book.html

      Edip said:

      “After about thirty years, dozens of books, thousands of emails and forum discussions, hundreds of articles, and numerous live TV debates, now there are tens of thousands of Turkish people accepting this message.”

      http://19.org/1045/robert-spencer-bill-warner/

      Where is the proof of your claim? It is certainly not in the stats of your website.

      Which party keeps winning elections there Edip?

    • Saif
      June 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm

      All the books are the same….the Torah and Talmud are full of it too…the biblical psalms have indescribable hate in there too…the Quran only claims to be part 3….I dont understand the fuss here…

      • admin
        June 20, 2012 at 11:05 pm

        The message of Jesus was one of peace. The message of Mohammad was one of dominance, plundering, sex slaves, and dominance. Also Christians and Jews are not on worldwide campaigns threatening to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all. Muslims are. That is the fuss.

        • admin
          June 20, 2012 at 11:14 pm

          Mohammad took sex slaves.

          033.050
          YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
          PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father’s side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father’s side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother’s side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother’s side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage – a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers – We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess – that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
          SHAKIR: O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her– specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/quran/verses/033-qmt.php

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      Mohammad took sex slaves.

      { يٰأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِيُّ إِنَّآ أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَاجَكَ ٱللاَّتِيۤ آتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّاتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالاَتِكَ ٱللاَّتِي هَاجَرْنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمْرَأَةً مُّؤْمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِيِّ إِنْ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِيُّ أَن يَسْتَنكِحَهَا خَالِصَةً لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَا فَرَضْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِيۤ أَزْوَاجِهِـمْ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُمْ لِكَيْلاَ يَكُونَ عَلَيْكَ حَرَجٌ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً }

      O Prophet! Indeed We have made lawful for you your wives whom you have given their dowries and what your right hand owns, of those whom God has given you as spoils of war, from the disbelievers, [whom you have] taken captive, such as Safiyya and Juwayriyya, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you, as opposed to those who did not emigrate, and any believing woman if she gift herself [in marriage] to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, and ask for her hand in marriage without paying [her] a dowry — a privilege for you exclusively, not for the [rest of the] believers (nikāh, ‘marriage’, when expressed by the term hiba, ‘gift’, denotes [marriage] without dowry). Indeed We know what We have imposed upon them, namely, the believers, with respect to their wives, in the way of rulings, to the effect that they should not take more than four wives and should only marry with [the consent of] a legal guardian, [the presence of] witnesses and [the payment of] a dowry, and, with respect to, what their right hands own, of slavegirls, in the way of purchase or otherwise, so that the handmaiden be one lawful for her master, such as a slavegirl belonging to the People of the Scripture (kitābiyya), and not a Magian or an idolater, and that she should be ascertained [as not carrying child] with the necessary waiting period (istibrā’) before copulation; so that (li-kaylā is semantically connected to what came before [this last statement]) there may be no [unnecessary] restriction for you, [no] constraint in marriage [for you]. And God is Forgiving, of what is difficult to guard against, Merciful, in giving dispensations [allowing for latitude] in this respect.

      http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=33&tAyahNo=50&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 11:24 pm

      Islam allows slaves.

      Surah Al-Mumenoon
      And who guard their modesty – (5) Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy,…

      http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 11:27 pm

      Islam allows slavery.

      33:50

      Sahih International
      O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

      http://quran.com/33

    • Robin Shadowes
      June 21, 2012 at 4:43 pm

      Mahound owned plentiful of slaves during his lifetime. Can you really deny that, arselifter? If he is to be considered the perfect man, then it must be ok to own slaves too, right?

  4. xe lai
    June 20, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    i think you have read only part of the Quran, then you are not guided by the Almighty, then you ended up with stupidity, thats why you all are war lover in this earth and will be the wicked people at the last day….

    • admin
      June 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      Islam is what calls for perpetual war.

      • xe lai
        June 20, 2012 at 10:30 pm

        you read only parts man, the same with other ‘moslem’ do with koran, also the same with christian who cannot see the bible contradiction haha, the problem become worst when they fight each other, but i think many families in states really hate war, their government and benefit taker love it

        • admin
          June 20, 2012 at 10:32 pm

          I have read the entire thing. Islam is stuck in the past and that is where it belongs.

          • xe lai
            June 20, 2012 at 10:43 pm

            hey i saw here someone challenge you in a debate, go fight him man so we can be sure that ‘i have read the entire thing’ statement is really a truth 🙂
            go man 🙂
            i watched syriana last night in hbo, and it looks like they use drone to kill the one who wants a change
            it can happen to everyone 🙁 oh man its a film

          • admin
            June 20, 2012 at 10:55 pm

            I did respond to him. He was already caught in a blatant lie.

    • Robin Shadowes
      June 21, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      Answer me this will you, arselifter? How come the “almighty” didn’t create boys without foreskins and girls without clits? And why did he even bother to create dogs and pigs if he hates them anyway? He could have created a perfect arselifter world from the start, if he wanted to. Still it so happens that the world is full of kuffar and many other plentiful things that are deemed haram in the eyes of the “almighty”. Oh and don’t bother to give me the answer that he left you arselifters to correct all the mistakes he made. Considering the number of mistakes he made, where I personally believe the creation of arselifters was way his worst mistake, I kinda have my doubts of his “almightyness”. LOL

  5. admin
    June 20, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Islam allows slavery.

    Muhsin Khan
    O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses – whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your ‘Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your ‘Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, – in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

    http://quran.com/33

  6. admin
    June 20, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    Surah Information
    Name: سورة الأحزاب

    Transliteration: Al-Ahzab

    English: The Coalition

    أَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَٰجَكَ ٱلَّٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَٰلَٰتِكَ ٱلَّٰتِى هَاجَرْنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمْرَأَةًۭ مُّؤْمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنْ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسْتَنكِحَهَا خَالِصَةًۭ لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۗ قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَا فَرَضْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِىٓ أَزْوَٰجِهِمْ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَٰنُهُمْ لِكَيْلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيْكَ حَرَجٌۭ ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورًۭا رَّحِيمًۭا
    Transliteration
    Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu inna ahlalna laka azwajaka allatee atayta ojoorahunna wama malakat yameenuka mimma afaa Allahu AAalayka wabanati AAammika wabanati AAammatika wabanati khalika wabanati khalatika allatee hajarna maAAaka waimraatan muminatan in wahabat nafsaha lilnnabiyyi in arada alnnabiyyu an yastankihaha khalisatan laka min dooni almumineena qad AAalimna ma faradna AAalayhim fee azwajihim wama malakat aymanuhum likayla yakoona AAalayka harajun wakana Allahu ghafooran raheeman

    The Noble Quran
    O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses – whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your ‘Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your ‘Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, – in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

    https://perfectquran.com/surah/al-ahzab

  7. June 21, 2012 at 1:39 am

    the worst mistake the world ever made, was giving Islam a religious status, it isn’t a religion, it’s a cult, and should be stripped of it’s religious status, it is a cult of Hatred, it’s got No redeeming qualities, and has nothing nice to say about the existence of other religions or the ability to Co Exist with anyone, they cant even exist with each other, the only time muslims stop killing themselves, is when they are killing no muslims….thats the only thing that unites any of them.

  8. jaeger
    June 21, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    As for Ed Yuskel’s grandious book, even a teenager with a half a brain can write a book nowadays. Muslim Slave trade with black people is happening as we speak and Mr. Yuskel is throwing semantics around. May I reiterate the emphatic NO! I received from a well respected former Muslim, if Islam can be reformed. Again, NO!,as the Koran was written for all times for the best of people and nothing can be added to it,nor anything. taken away.

  9. jogool
    June 21, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    read the reform translation and can catch the light, Koran is really right, problem lying on the people who call themselve moslem, this is similar with people call themselve christian, catholic, shia, sunni, wahabian etc, all fall to satanic trap.
    cannot make a unity in diversity country for palestine and israel? they both children of abraham,and they(not only jews) return to the promised land.
    watch the bbc knowledge few nights ago and see some christian(from usa if im not wrong) come to israel to become as what they call ‘volunteer worker’ in the vineyard while the jews farmer see at them as promised slave who will come from evrywhere to work for jews hahaha what a pity

    • admin
      June 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      Amputation and death for spreading “mischief” are not the light. Now name ONE Mosque in America using this Koran. If what you are saying is true I condemn that. But Christians and Jews are not on worldwide campaigns threatening to impose barbaric religious laws on all. Muslims are, and that is where the focus of this site will remain. Do you care to condemn the Islamic slavery that is taking place is Sudan? Or are you tongue tied when it comes to criticizing Muslims and Islam?

  10. June 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    I posted my response under the new article attacking my person and work.

    Peace,
    Edip

    • admin
      June 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm

      Let me make this clear to you Edip. This is Logan’s Warning, not the Far-left Forum. You blatantly lied, so you were called on it. If you do not like the way things work here, do not come here. It is that simple. As for you “work”, I have already pointed out it is on the fast track to nowhere.

  11. jogool
    June 22, 2012 at 2:42 am

    I think you should take Edip challenge for a debat, thats a good way to show who is handling the truth. Thats fair enough.

    • admin
      June 22, 2012 at 8:36 am

      1. He started a debate here, and was proven a liar. He can finish it here. I also said I will debate him on the radio.

      2. You said Islam prohibited slavery, and were proven wrong. Do you think the readers cannot see that? Neither one of you is nearly as slick as you think you are. The next time you make a comment on Islam you had better back it up with proof.

      • jogool
        June 22, 2012 at 6:24 pm

        hey man, he asked you a debate with a camera, so we can see which one is a looser, you do not have gut to face it ?
        Islam indeed abolished slavery, when you say ‘there is no God but God’ then you declare yourself free from slavery and abolish slavery in your mind and act, thats why ancient egipt people/pharaoh cannot stand in front of a God mesage. USA? They need someone like Lincoln to abolish slavery, and they need war to have it, so if now they are stubborn then we can understand, the same with nobody protest their goverment for using drone 🙁

        • admin
          June 22, 2012 at 6:28 pm

          Hey man, the readers can see who wins and loses here. He was already proven a liar. Just like you were.

          This is the last time I will ask you. PROVE Islam abolished slavery. Other than that we are done here.

          • jogool
            June 22, 2012 at 6:30 pm

            you did not prove anything man….

          • admin
            June 22, 2012 at 6:40 pm

            More games. I posted numerous translations of Koran verse 33:50. Muslims like you who come here, only prove my point on much Muslims lie to defend Islam. You fail here.

            { يٰأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِيُّ إِنَّآ أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَاجَكَ ٱللاَّتِيۤ آتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّاتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالاَتِكَ ٱللاَّتِي هَاجَرْنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمْرَأَةً مُّؤْمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِيِّ إِنْ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِيُّ أَن يَسْتَنكِحَهَا خَالِصَةً لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَا فَرَضْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِيۤ أَزْوَاجِهِـمْ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُمْ لِكَيْلاَ يَكُونَ عَلَيْكَ حَرَجٌ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً }

            O Prophet! Indeed We have made lawful for you your wives whom you have given their dowries and what your right hand owns, of those whom God has given you as spoils of war, from the disbelievers, [whom you have] taken captive, such as Safiyya and Juwayriyya, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you, as opposed to those who did not emigrate, and any believing woman if she gift herself [in marriage] to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, and ask for her hand in marriage without paying [her] a dowry — a privilege for you exclusively, not for the [rest of the] believers (nikāh, ‘marriage’, when expressed by the term hiba, ‘gift’, denotes [marriage] without dowry). Indeed We know what We have imposed upon them, namely, the believers, with respect to their wives, in the way of rulings, to the effect that they should not take more than four wives and should only marry with [the consent of] a legal guardian, [the presence of] witnesses and [the payment of] a dowry, and, with respect to, what their right hands own, of slavegirls, in the way of purchase or otherwise, so that the handmaiden be one lawful for her master, such as a slavegirl belonging to the People of the Scripture (kitābiyya), and not a Magian or an idolater, and that she should be ascertained [as not carrying child] with the necessary waiting period (istibrā’) before copulation; so that (li-kaylā is semantically connected to what came before [this last statement]) there may be no [unnecessary] restriction for you, [no] constraint in marriage [for you]. And God is Forgiving, of what is difficult to guard against, Merciful, in giving dispensations [allowing for latitude] in this respect.

            http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=33&tAyahNo=50&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

            Surah Information
            Name: سورة الأحزاب

            Transliteration: Al-Ahzab

            English: The Coalition

            أَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَٰجَكَ ٱلَّٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَٰلَٰتِكَ ٱلَّٰتِى هَاجَرْنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمْرَأَةًۭ مُّؤْمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنْ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسْتَنكِحَهَا خَالِصَةًۭ لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۗ قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَا فَرَضْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِىٓ أَزْوَٰجِهِمْ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَٰنُهُمْ لِكَيْلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيْكَ حَرَجٌۭ ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورًۭا رَّحِيمًۭا
            Transliteration
            Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu inna ahlalna laka azwajaka allatee atayta ojoorahunna wama malakat yameenuka mimma afaa Allahu AAalayka wabanati AAammika wabanati AAammatika wabanati khalika wabanati khalatika allatee hajarna maAAaka waimraatan muminatan in wahabat nafsaha lilnnabiyyi in arada alnnabiyyu an yastankihaha khalisatan laka min dooni almumineena qad AAalimna ma faradna AAalayhim fee azwajihim wama malakat aymanuhum likayla yakoona AAalayka harajun wakana Allahu ghafooran raheeman

            The Noble Quran
            O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses – whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your ‘Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your ‘Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, – in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

            https://perfectquran.com/surah/al-ahzab

            Mohammad himself owned slaves.

            Sahih Muslim, Book 10, Number 3901:

            Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
            There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) on migration; he (the Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).

          • admin
            June 22, 2012 at 6:46 pm

            I just did again. You did not prove your claim. No surprise at all. We are done.

  12. jogool
    June 22, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    did you response to my comment on people go to west bank and actually the jews there count them as promised slaves ? Are only the jews the children of Abraham ?
    religion is funny when it comes to people like you man 🙂

    • admin
      June 22, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      Instead of just coming here to play typical childish games, try reading. I did respond. Now PROVE Islam abolished slavery. Last shot.

      • jogool
        June 22, 2012 at 6:33 pm

        hey man, why are you so emotional ?
        calm man, the best term in world is peace man, and it cannot be achieved if you promote hate 🙂

        • admin
          June 22, 2012 at 6:35 pm

          I am calm, and using your so called logic those who opposed Nazism were promoting hate.

  13. jaeger
    June 24, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    This is to hey man. A very lengthy and accurate debate was given to you, hey man,and your response hey man was absolutely void of any correct substance, hey man. Have you been a former slave sold by the muslims to the Americas?, just asking, hey man.

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