More Than 50 U.S. Churches Agree to Hold Koran Readings!!

In the past I have stated I am not religious, but my goal is to help educate and unite Atheists and members of non-Islamic religions against a common enemy. That enemy is Islam. The good news is that our voice against Islam is clearly getting louder, the bad news is that far too many Americans who identify themselves as “Christians” are taking the easy way out and bowing down to Islam, in an effort to avoid a conflict that has been raging for 1400 years.

Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366:
It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

A conflict in which Christians are clearly losing!

Pulpit pals: Christians, Jews, Muslims plan shared worship
BY ADELLE M. BANKS

Religious and human rights activists are asking U.S. churches to invite Jewish and Muslim clergy to their sanctuaries to read from sacred texts next month in an initiative designed to counter anti-Muslim bigotry.

The June 26 initiative, called “Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding,” is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months.

Did you know that Mohammad was a pedophile?

Bukhari Hadith Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham’s father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

To make matters worse the Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times.

Koran verse 033.021
YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

Did you respect those sicko Priests who molested children? Of course not, then why respect Islam?

“As a Christian minister who is a pastor in a local congregation, it is important to me for our nation and our world to know that not all Christians promote hate, attack religions different from their own and seek to desecrate the scripture of others,” the Rev. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, said Tuesday.

Pointing out the threat that Islam brings to Christians is promoting awareness.

Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

It is called protecting life as we know for our future generations. Is that too much to ask?

More than 50 churches in 26 states already have committed to the initiative, including the Washington National Cathedral.

That is more than 50 too many.

Tad Stahnke, director of policy and programs for Human Rights First, said he hopes the initiative will draw attention to religious freedom and counter negative stereotypes of Christian leaders making anti-Muslim statements.

“We want to send a message to the world,” he said, “that Americans do respect religious differences and reject religious bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion.”

Tad if you really were for religious freedom you would not be promoting Islam. Would you care to talk about the bigotry that stems from Islam?

Koran verse 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Link to Article

Jew bowing down to Nazism would not have saved them, and Christians bowing down to Islam will not make your future generations safe from Islamic Law. It is time to toughen up and join the fight of our lives!

Rev. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance can be reached HERE.

Human Rights First can be reached HERE.

The Washington National Cathedral can be reached

90 comments for “More Than 50 U.S. Churches Agree to Hold Koran Readings!!

  1. DENOTCHKA
    May 17, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    This is tragic! I’m wondering who threatened to
    Blow them to smithereens?

    • admin
      May 17, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      Welcome to the site DENOTCHKA!

      It is suicidal.

    • New Crusader
      May 18, 2011 at 11:50 am

      No threat, they can do that on their own. They wouldn’t want to put muslims to any trouble.

  2. K
    May 17, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    I would not allow such readings unless they had agreed to allow us to read in their mosques.

    Churches and temples share Books, readings and historical knowledge as well as live for the most part, peaceablly together without hidden harmful agenda.

    If they would like to participate in a similar program of mutual understanding in the light of sharing and understanding, only then would it be acceptable.

    • Kelly Kafir
      May 18, 2011 at 8:16 am

      Interfaith is a one way street with Muslims… go ahead, try to see if you can get this going. My bet is they will not.

    • May 19, 2011 at 12:54 pm

      To allow a non-christian or devout Jew in the pulpit behind the sacred desk, is nothing short of desecrating the temple. God forgive those pastors who walk in ignorance.

      • May 19, 2011 at 12:57 pm

        Ooooops that is to allow a non-christian or anyone other that a christian or devout Jew in the pulpit behind the sacred desk, is nothing short of desecrating the temple.

        • Barb. Gerhard
          December 27, 2011 at 1:14 am

          Oops again you do not alow a devout Jew behind the pupit either. They denigh the devinity of Christ read your bible where it is written about the jews who persecuted the christians why would you allow an unconverted jew in the pulpit? they believe that messiah is still to
          come. when their messiah comes they believe he will destroy all their enimies ie. all non jews. Jesus is our saviour He even distanced Himself from the so called jews, because they were trying to kill Him.

          • Barb. Gerhard
            December 27, 2011 at 1:26 am

            I will continue, in scriptures it asks who is the true jews? those who’s hearts are cewrcomsized it is no longer cercomsition of the flesh but of the heart. Scriptures go on to say. IN CHRIST there is now no division between jew and gentil ALL ARE ONE IN hIM, only in christ is there unity, there is no fellowship between light and darkness the jews have choosen to step out side God’s covenant and are now spiritually gentils. if they come to christ then they are children of God by faith. not by Abraham. It has always been by faith God is no respecter of persons these are the teachings of Jesus.

    • New Crusader
      June 16, 2011 at 1:16 pm

      I could read a book in one of their mosques about pig slaughter, sausage making, and smoking ham. A hog casing sausage demo and sampling might be in order to show how people historically ate before Ham Mad MO. Reminding all that this is for historical demonstration purposes only, and need not be seen as anything else. I’ll call it stealth apostasy – hee hee hee hee.

  3. Randa
    May 17, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Why do church leaders… And their congregation think this wise? We are to walk in peace, but bringing speakers in to sway the beliefs as they stand in a sanctuary of believers in God and Jesus is nothing short of apostasy. Unity meetings for peace should be held outside of a church setting… And even then, it won’t stop what the scripture says happens in the end of time… Apostasy. Thanks, Pastors that think you’re so hip to use the Christian Church as a pep rally for peace. It won’t work…. But it will stir the pot!

  4. Herman
    May 17, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    We need to write all of those idiots in charge with these churches and give them a crash course in islam… AND SUGGEST they can do the same in mosques too (as one reader suggested)… See where that is going to go….

    This world is really full of idiots…

    • Herman
      May 17, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      “AND SUGGEST they can do the same in mosques too”

      Was kind of unclear in my post: By doing the same, I followed a suggestion of another reader:
      ask for bible readings in mosques….

    • Emmanuel
      May 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm

      To allow such to happen is an abomination in the eyes of God,Islam is in no way from El Shaddai,the Muslims worship not the Creator of man,but the destroyer of man,to prove your point, send them videos of Muslims beheading and stoning innocents,Religion of love,the hell it is,THESE videos are sickening in the extreme,Winston Churchill gave a speech in 1899 in which he described what would happen if Islam was allowed to grow.
      1. The following was published 112 years ago in 1899.
      He wrote this AFTER fightin in the River War in Afghanistan, he knew what to expect and what the world would face!
      2. It was authored by Winston Churchill who first became a household name forty years later during world turmoil leading up to WWII.
      3. It was impossible for him to even imagine a fraction of the changes in technology or world politics yet to come.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~
      “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
      The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
      A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
      Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the infence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.
      No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.
      It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

      • linda jam
        May 18, 2011 at 7:17 pm

        Wow. I always admired Churchill, but this excerpt from this speech is a mind blower. its almost as if he were a prophet.

    • juan
      December 27, 2011 at 7:41 am

      Yes, you are one of these idiots following these fantics ignorants hatered extremists!!!!

      • admin
        December 27, 2011 at 10:47 am

        Who is ignorant? Do you care to debate me on the Islamic scriptures?

  5. S R Wakankar
    May 17, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Arab Islam is “for the Arab, by the Arab, of the Arab”.Its frame or canvas is Arabia only.Outside it, it is sheer Imperialism.
    Real authentic Islam is “the Dharma’ of India which is Vedic and in Sanskrit.This age-old ancient tradition of Hindu India is the Real Islam which pre-dates the Arab Islam and its birth-place is the AfPak region where the present War against Terror is going on.Hindu India is fighting this war for last 1400 years.Our 9/11 had happened 1100 years ago when the great temple of Som Nath was razed to ground by the Muslim invaders.The meaning of the “Hindu” word is “RESISTANCE” to Arab/Muslim Imperialism only.All those who fight this menace are Hindu irrespective of religion or nationality.All those who have been victims to this scourge are Hindu.Iran became 100% Islamised, but India survived, thanks to this marvellous word HINDU which is strangely of Iranian origin.Thanks,
    -S R Wakankar

    • linda jam
      May 18, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      I read a book about the Islamic invasion of India. It was horrorific that I had to stop reading, take a breather and then get back to the book. I’m ashamed to say that I never knew the suffering that the EAST endured at the hands of the Muslims. I always wondered as a child why that part of the world was so far behind the US and Europe. NOw,I realize it was because of what the Muslims did and continue to do. I know the Hindus are not saints and neither are the Christians, but nothing compares to the Muslims. As far as Iran being 100% islamized – its all a big show. Iran’s top coating is Islam but underneath its Zorastranian. Iran is beginning to get back in touch with its roots and hopefully its ancient religion will galvanize the Iranian people to get rid of the yoke of Islam.

      • Al Studier
        May 19, 2011 at 7:51 am

        Sorry… I must disagree. Iran will remain a Muslim country. An in-depth study of Revelation will prove that Islam is the last great empire of the world. Their last great leader will be the antichrist of Christianity. And Yeshua will cast them all into the pit of hell at the Great White Throne Judgment.
        To quote a voice from the past: “Just the facts, Ma’am… just the facts”.

        • eib
          December 27, 2011 at 6:58 am

          I guess the question is:
          Is there a Persian Islamic identity?
          I’ve heard that the Islamic authorities in Iran have tried without success to suppress elements of the pre-existing Persian culture that remain in practice among the people.

        • eib
          December 27, 2011 at 7:01 am

          I believe also that Islam with its Allah is the beast, Mohammed is indeed the false prophet, and their followers will go into the sulphurous pit and be condemned to the Second Death.
          Muslims do indeed carry the mark of the beast. As human beings they have the power to repudiate these things, but they are completely taken in.

      • eib
        December 27, 2011 at 7:04 am

        Iran is the historical Persia, never forget that.
        One of the most powerful states and empires of the ancient world; home of Xerxes, Cyrus and Darius.
        These men and their culture were all non-Muslim, and they had real power and gained real respect.

      • juan
        December 27, 2011 at 7:51 am

        Linda jam, I was reading a book of the spaniards invading south America It is horrible and made me craying how the peace-loving christians slughtered 8 million poor indians, it is sham on the church and these poor indians how much they endured at the hands of the christians!!!!

        • admin
          December 27, 2011 at 10:46 am

          It is a shame, but do you care to talk about what Muslims are doing across the world today? Your attempt to get the focus off of Islam will not work here.

          • juan
            December 28, 2011 at 2:40 am

            Do you care to talk about the crimes of America in Afganistan and Iraq?? they killed more than one million iraqs leaving behind 3 millions orphans and one million widows and the same in Afganistan….I am sure you dont care!!!!because you are a group of beasts….

          • admin
            December 28, 2011 at 5:11 am

            I have been wanting to end those wars for years. Nation building was a huge mistake, but Islam has been a threat to non-Muslims long before America even existed.

    • eib
      December 27, 2011 at 6:56 am

      You point out a part of history that multiculturalists, and particularly multicultural Westerners suppress.
      To me, that’s the real test of how true any historian is to the West. If he is only willing to talk about the supposed tolerance of the Mughals without once mentioning the attempted genocide, cultural, physical and criminal, of the historical culture of the Indian subcontinent and Himalayan region, then he is not a Westerner, he has sold out.
      The historical Hindu culture has conherency and is more humane than that of Islam.
      My only complaint about it would be the alienation of women from meaningful authority over themselves, within their families and in society.
      But in its practices and assumptions about human nature, Hinduism is very, very individualistic and basically monotheistic at the same time.
      A godhead with a thousand faces is still one god.

  6. Kafira
    May 18, 2011 at 4:01 am

    We need a list of all these churches and send them mail, email, snail mail, call them and tell them this is just wrong!!!!

    • barbara
      June 15, 2011 at 10:37 pm

      Who are these churches? Does any one know?
      It had better not be in mine..

      • admin
        June 16, 2011 at 11:48 am

        Hi Barbara,

        A friend is compiling a list. When he is done I will post it.

    • juan
      December 27, 2011 at 9:02 am

      KAFIRA read what the holy Quran said befor 1400 years in people like you ((O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you. Hatred is revealed by (the utterance of) their mouths, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if ye will understand. (118) Lo! ye are those who love them though they love you not, and ye believe in all the Scripture. When they fall in with you they say: We believe; but when they go apart they bite their finger-tips at you, for rage. Say: Perish in your rage! Lo! God is Aware of what is hidden in (your) breasts. (119) If a lucky chance befall you, it is evil unto them, and if disaster strike you they rejoice thereat. But if ye persevere and keep from evil their guile will never harm you. Lo! God is Surrounding what they do.))PERISH IN YOUR RAGE!!!!

      • admin
        December 27, 2011 at 10:45 am

        What is a non-Muslim supposed to like about Islam?

  7. La Lydia
    May 18, 2011 at 5:29 am

    Not a single mosque on their list. Not reciprocal. What a bunch of suicidal clergy.

  8. CGW
    May 18, 2011 at 5:41 am

    Where is the list with contact info, esp. email addresses?

    This is the stealth jihad in hyper-drive.

  9. Dennis H. Bennett
    May 18, 2011 at 5:45 am

    I believe the phrase, “oh well, if that’s what they want to believe….” is a direct product of multiculturalism, the most sinister devaluation of our Euro-American culture. Believing that all cultures/ideologies/religions have equal value is not only preposterous, but insidiously dangerous.
    “Faith Shared: Uniting…..” is nothing short of the right clicking the mouse to highlight a troublesome text in order to delete it. Any “socially-driven” illiterate can do it, including those who equate membership in a church with a relationship to God as revealed in the Bible. And do it to their own demise.

  10. dorothy
    May 18, 2011 at 6:30 am

    why is this wrong to hear and learn the words of other religions?

    • Dan
      May 18, 2011 at 7:14 am

      Read your Bible Dorothy and the answer to your question will be evident. Pay particular attention to 1st and 2nd John

      • admin
        May 18, 2011 at 1:02 pm

        Dorothy is only here to defend Islam. One of her favorite games it to try and get the focus off of Islam, and onto Christianity. She is also a master of ducking questions.

    • wesfiero
      May 18, 2011 at 8:04 am

      dear dorothy, i beg you to read an english translated koran for yourself and see the blasphemy of calling marys son their prophet. just see for yourself hundreds of references to destroying all jews and christians and the truth will set you free. dont just listen to the specially prepared whitewash read the book for your self. and then you will understand the evil that has been in place for a thousand years just destroying everything in its path to global domination.

      • Kelly Kafir
        May 18, 2011 at 8:21 am

        I call this, “Know thine enemy” problem is – they most likely won’t be explaining abbrogation and the arrangement of the suras.

        My suggestion – we find a church in our area that is doing this, grab a couple of folks and have some signs about abbrogation, about taqiyya, about the sura in the Qur’an that says we do NOT have the same god, etc and stand outside those churches so they can see the other side. Or put flyers on the cars in the church parking lot with that info. I call this an “educational protest”

    • admin
      May 18, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      Do you really think Muslims are going to go in those Churches and tell them their religion calls for the dominance of Christians?

      • Al Studier
        May 19, 2011 at 7:55 am

        Read the surah. Muslims can lie to infidels, about anything, as long as it doesn’t make them doubt their ‘faith’.
        The ‘churches’ that participate in this abomination are already dead… they just haven’t lain down yet.

    • christine
      May 18, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Dorothy, “other religions?” It’s islam they’re talking about, which is not a religion by any stretch of the imagination, but if some fools want to have select passages from the koran read to them let them go to the nearest mosque and listen to drivel while christians are being slaughtered in every muslim country in the world-BY MUSLIMS.In the meantime, real christians will be out there fighting for human rights by fighting against the vile ideology of what Ann Barnhardt aptly calls the “stone age pagan war cult” that is islam.

    • linda jam
      May 18, 2011 at 6:54 pm

      Because Islam is a religion of hate that brought a dark age to the East, and soon to the West if we don’t wake the hell up. the Koran should be read, but not with same deference the bible. It should be read only to create an awareness of what awaits us if we don’t take a stand. Mohammed was evil, and so are his teachings.

      • Al Studier
        May 19, 2011 at 8:03 am

        Also… in addition to their false religion… mohammad was a false prophet, and their god is allah the moon god and is therefore a false god.
        The crap they believe has been ingrained into their very being since they were born, and therefore we should pray that their eyes be opened. If they would only repent of their evil, Yahweh would have mercy on them, and things would change. But true Prophecy says that most of them will not, and therefore they will be destroyed in the last days.

      • Savana
        June 6, 2012 at 10:14 am

        Hello, apologies for the daleyed response That is an excellent question and we do share your concern. We are pleased to inform you that SCCYC is in the process of starting a project called Women In Action’ to set up an 2 year program of activities to address such concerns. An open meeting is being held to plan skills transfer activities this Friday 4th November, 6pm to 8pm at the Gurdwara. Your attendance and input will be greatly appreciated. Please do send me your contact details so that we can keep you updated on the activities.

    • eib
      June 16, 2011 at 4:38 am

      There is nothing wrong with “hearing the words” of other religions.
      The problem here is that no such reciprocity has ever been shown by the Muslim community to Christians, Jews, Hindus, Jains, or Buddhists.
      They’d rather slaughter these groups wholesale than hear the words of these religions read in the open in mosques.
      Reciprocity isn’t necessarily fairness, but with Islam, it is what we must demand.
      They want to enter and leave our churches/ synagogues freely.
      We are not free to enter their mosques freely without the threat of intimidation or worse!
      A committed Christian, standing by his faith, in a mosque?
      COME AGAIN! It won’t happen.

  11. Lydia
    May 18, 2011 at 6:39 am

    There is a list of the churches at this website:
    http://www.faithshared.org/

    • barbara
      June 15, 2011 at 10:43 pm

      Thanks,
      If you go to Jack Van Impi’s website and look on the 6-11-11 show. you may be very shocked.

    • eib
      June 16, 2011 at 4:41 am

      One thing we need to ask ourselves and the worshippers in these churches, is whether or not they advocate unitarian doctrine.
      Unitarian Christians are in a very, very weak position with respect to Islam. There is no way they can refute the Muslim claim that God never had a son, nor can they refute the Muslim claim that the Christian God and Allah are the same.
      They also cannot refute the Muslim claim that Jesus was a mere prophet.
      In other words, if you are a Unitarian Christian, you have no theological defense against Islam. You may as well convert and get it all over with.
      Unless you are a Quaker, in which case you are forbidden to take up arms against anyone.
      Unitarian theology is weak– it will fall, its adherents will become Muslim with extreme ease.

    • eib
      June 16, 2011 at 1:06 pm

      I note that this “interfaith” is sponsored and initiated by Christians alone.
      It looks like a Christian act, when it is, in fact, too generous and does not demand reciprocal arrangements.
      Interfaith without reciprocity is nothing more than surrender.
      It is submission.

  12. Chris
    May 18, 2011 at 7:30 am

    As other readers observed, there is no reciprocal Bible reading in mosques, and the imams will be selecting the passages to be read — presumably from the Meccan peaceful Surahs. There are two sinister agenda working here:

    1) Because Muhammad cherry-picked names and fragments of stories from the Bible, there is enough superficial similarity between Islam and the Judeo-Christian faiths to argue that the two faiths have common ground. Naturally, Christians want to find reasons to “love their enemies,” so this common ground notion is grabbed by people who are not knowledgeable about Islamic ideology as a rationale for seeking alliances and reconciliation. The fact is that Islam rejects the core ethic of the Judeo-Christian faiths – love the Lord and love your neighbor as yourself. The Quran states, “ Those who follow [Muhammad] are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. . . Through them [Allah] seeks to enrage the unbelievers. (Surah 48:29) Also, the Quran denies the principal tenants of Christianity – that Jesus was the Son of God and that He was crucified as an atonement of mankind’s sins. As I John 4:2-3 says, “. . anyone who acknowledges that Jesus Christ came as a human being has the Spirit that comes from God. But anyone who denies this about Jesus does not have the Spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the Enemy of Christ.” Those Christians participating would be shocked if they read the actual statement in the classic manual of Sharia Law (Reliance of the Traveler) which states on page 846 that Christianity and Judaism are “remnant cults” that have no validity since the time of Muhammad?
    2) The second sinister agenda is to establish Islam as a main stream religion in the U.S. There are actually more Buddhists in the U.S. than Muslims, but the Islamists always try to get on the podium – for opening prayers in the legislature, for meetings and dinners at the White House, for national holiday events, etc., etc. If their leaders are seen as respectable, then shame on anyone who criticizes their ideology or their special prerogatives. I call this the “Charlie Tuna” syndrome. The early TV ads for Chicken of the Sea Tuna always showed Charlie Tuna trying to measure up to the high standards of that company’s products. But all of Charlie’s efforts failed. Jesus said you would know a tree by its fruit. Where are the “good fruit” of Islam?

    Read the Quran, yes indeed. But go to some of the final chapters revealed, like Surahs 8,9, and 48 to understand what the Muslims’s final marching orders were.

    • Beverly
      May 18, 2011 at 7:49 pm

      Muhammad was a mortal man, a human, a pediophile, a liar, and full of hatred. Allah was originally one of many gods worshipped by Ishmaelites, a moon god, a false god. Jehovah commands we are not to have any other gods, there is NONE beside Him. Jesus was the Word of God made flesh. His body was man, but the Spirit that dwelled in Him was GOD. Jesus commanded us to love God, love our neighbor (remember, the good Samaritan was from a race looked down on by Jews), and to love our enemy. Everything Islam is contradictory to Christianity. These pastors are bringing a false god into the church. Thankfully, there are enough true Christians who are grounded into the Word of God to not be deceived. This Chrislam and the efforts in the name of peace to combine the two beliefs is a deception. It is a false peace, being that the only true peace is through our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Prince of Peace. He is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord, and that includes Buddah, Muhammed,Charles Rutherford, and many others who with their writings and doctrines deny the diety of Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY way, truth, and life. No one comes to the Father but through Him.

      • Al Studier
        May 19, 2011 at 8:07 am

        Amen and Amen!!!

      • Dan
        May 19, 2011 at 4:13 pm

        Amen!! Very wel said!

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  14. May 18, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Apparently Tad Stahnke, director of policy and programs for Human Rights First, isn’t very intelligent. Stahnke comments: “We want to send a message to the world, that Americans do respect religious differences and reject religious bigotry and demonization of Islam or any other religion.”

    Stahnke, why do I have to respect the brutality of Islam? Will you answer? Stahnke, apparently you believe that it’s okay to stone women to death for adultery, whereas, Muslim males are not stoned for committing the same sin. Depraved Muslim males can commit adultery by practicing polygamy. If Muslim women did this, they would be stoned to death for adultery. Stahnke, it’s evident that you go along with Islamic cruelty and hypocrisy. Why?

    Stahnke, you also believe that little girls should have their clitorises chopped off. Why do you call chopping off clitorises a religious right? Why are you as cruel as evil Muslims? You can go to hell if you think that I should believe what you believe. I would never do that to a child.

    Stahnke, you also believe in Honor Killing. Sometimes, Muslim daughters are murdered for failing to wear a Muslim rag on their heads, or for “becoming too Westerenized.” Stahnke, it’s so hard not to call you cruel and stupid.

    Stahnke, you also believe that depraved, sinful Muslim sex perverts have a right to legally rape underage little girls after a forced marriage. Sometimes, these little girls are as young as seven years old. That’s how depraved Islam and Shariah are. Is it possible that you too would force an underage little girl to “marry” you so that you too could legally rape her? Probably, you would.

    Stahnke, you would also murder apostates, who no longer wish to be associated with Islamic Criminal Activity like that mentioned above. Stahnke, go right along and “respect” this criminal religion of Islam, but don’t expect me to “respect” such injustices and cruelty. To hell with you and Islam.

    Stahnke, you go along with the self-righteous religion of Islam when they hang homosexuals and lesbians until dead, or cut off their heads with a sword. Why are you and Islam so hypocritical and brutal?

    Stahnke, you would also lash underage little girls who try to run away from the clutches of depraved, sinful, Muslim male sex perverts, who want to legally rape these little girls after a forced marriage. Stahnke, why are you so perverted and cruel? Why? Why? Why?

    Stahnke, I’m sure you know about the cruelty of Islam. So why do you go along with this cruelty and brutality? Why? And why do you expect us so-called infidels to agree with the cruelty of Islam? Stahnke, I suggest you grow a human brain so that you can think logically, and sensibly.

    • Ali Muad'dib
      May 18, 2011 at 10:08 am

      Oh well said. Well said.

    • Beverly
      May 18, 2011 at 7:52 pm

      Amen!

    • Al Studier
      May 19, 2011 at 8:11 am

      Why? you ask. Because Stahnke is like too many more men and women in America. Among his many other “attributes” he is a coward.

      • Dan
        May 19, 2011 at 4:14 pm

        LOL!! AMEN!

  15. DennisH. Bennett
    May 18, 2011 at 8:10 am

    The agenda of these two bodies is not, primarily, I believe, to give Islam an “affirmative boost”, but to use them to push “rights” for individuals who experience “discrimination”, real or perceived. DOMA is specifically mentioned as discriminatory on their web page. Nothing could be more deceiving than to push the homosexual “rights” agenda cloaked as “human rights”. And we know what Islam prescribes for homosexuals. They are just as blind! (No pun intended).

  16. Beth
    May 18, 2011 at 9:33 am

    I don’t have a problem with all Muslim, in fact I have several Muslim friends who are also Christians. I do have a problem with the Muslims that strap bombs on their children, rape women, fly planes into buildings, and kill American military men and women.

    • Kelly Kafir
      May 18, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      Beth – they cannot be Muslim AND Christian at the same time… Allah is NOT the same as the God of the Jews and Christians. The Qur’an says that. The Qur’an says that Jesus (Isa) is NOT the son of God so there is no way they can be practicing Muslims AND practicing Christians at the same time unless they are former Muslims who converted. In that case, the Qur’an calls for them to be killed. You are decieved.

      • Al Studier
        May 19, 2011 at 8:12 am

        Amen, Kelly. Well said.

    • eib
      June 16, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      The deity Muslims worship is an Arab pagan deity, not the God who created the world.
      No Muslim can be a Christian, because to be a Christian, you must believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
      No Muslim will ever say that Jesus was the Son of God.
      They will say only that he was a human prophet, the son of Mary.
      They do not believe Mary was the wife of Joseph, they do not believe that Nazareth was their home.
      They do not believe that Jesus was crucified.
      There is no indication that they knew which tribe Jesus was from.
      Do you know which tribe Jesus was from? Judah! The roaring lion in Jacob’s Farewell!
      Do you know which tribe John the Baptist was from? Levi! The same from which Moses, Miriam, and Aaron were descended!
      The Arab Mohammed knew nothing of this, and included nothing of it in his interpretatio of Jesus, the prophet from nowhere!
      But all of this is scripturally confirmed, and to disbelieve it, you must renounce the NT.

    • eib
      December 12, 2011 at 9:44 am

      Do not judge Islam by the Muslims you know, and do not judge the Muslims you know by the written standards of Islam.
      Instead of a self-righteous rant here, you should be finding out exactly what the Muslim scriptures say, and why it’s different from Christianity.
      Why indeed would they “strap bombs on their children, rape woman, fly planes into buildings and kill American … men and women?”
      The answer is not in them.
      It is in what they believe, and what they wish to impose on others.

  17. Greycoat
    May 18, 2011 at 10:00 am

    “Useful idiots”, fools, apostates, and/or all of the above.

    These “Christians” need to be asked “Would you read from a Satan’s bible? Allow Satanists to hold services in your church basement? If not, why not?

    The Quran and Islam states the false moon god Allah, who pretends to be the one and only all knowing god of the universe, says he has no sons. Isa (a counterfeit Jesus) is not his son, but just a prophet.

    The Quran and Islam states that Isa was not crucified.

    The Quran and Islam states that Isa was not resurrected.

    The Quran and Islam call the true God of the Bible a liar. For God says of Jesus, this is my Son in whom I am well pleased. The bible, i.e. God’s Word, states that Jesus was crucified and resurrected.

    Islam is a “faith”, along with being a fascist supremacist political ideology, who was not inspired by the true God, but inspired by Satan himself. It is a spirit of an anti-christ. Why would we allow such evil lying words from such a Satan inspired book called the Quran read in our churches?

    What fellowship do we have with darkness? With evil?

    Perhaps because those claiming to be “Christians”, who would endorse this evil, are not really Christians. They are merely Christian in name only and their true father is Satan for they have not His Holy Spirit and one day Jesus will say to them Depart from me for I know you not into the Lake of Fire.

    • linda jam
      May 18, 2011 at 7:13 pm

      The Quran and Islam states that Isa was not crucified.

      The Quran and Islam states that Isa was not resurrected–Of course, Muslims would never admit this because if they did then they would believe that Jesus was truly divine and the Messiah and therefore superior to their prophet.

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  19. Rob
    May 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    How many Bibles will they read in the mosque?

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  21. Fred
    May 18, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Don’t they realise they are in danger of joining the Antichrist Muslims in hellfire by joining them in pulpits ?
    Jesus said “I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by Me” and “whoever causes one of my little ones to stumble, it would be better for him to have a millstone round his neck and cast into the deepest sea”

  22. Al Studier
    May 19, 2011 at 8:19 am

    As I said in one of my replies, above… any Church that allows this sort of conduct is already dead, and just hasn’t lain down yet… and to that I will add: Any pastor that allows this sort of conduct in the Church, will be one of those “lampstands” described in Revelation that will be “removed from it’s place.” God will not be mocked!

    • Sgt. KoranFlusher
      May 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm

      Dead on!! The “Falling Away” is almost complete. Christians should know that they are on their own and without leadership today because their leaders have become pompous and made concessions…. they have swapped sides in this battle.

  23. anon
    May 19, 2011 at 11:48 am

    You ….. are a moron. Understand Christians before you go running your mouth off….

    • May 19, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      I would remain anonymous also,m if I had made a stupid statement like that. You need to understand the bible, sir

  24. May 19, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    We need more men like Churchill and Gen. John J. (Blackjack) Pershing in this world today. They understood the Islamists and their plan to rule the world by terror. They have one goal, rid the world of all infidels and rule entire world.

  25. May 19, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    In reality, Aisha was a child of eight years, nine months old when Muhammad the Pervert raped her. Muslim Perverts call it “consummation of marriage,” but in a civilized country, having sex with a child of that age, it’s called rape.

    The Muslims used the lunar calendar. That’s why they say that the child Aisha was nine years old. If you use the solar calendar, Aisha was actually about eight years, nine months old when Muhammad the pedophile raped her.

    • Panthbharti
      March 29, 2012 at 8:54 am

      A Call for ‘A Joint War on Terror and Absurdity’:

      Dear Jews, Christians, Buddhist, Hindu/Sikhs & Atheists join your forces and resources to eradicate a Chronic Disease, to save Human Species and this Planet. Treat the unfortunate patients of this disease carefully and very humanly isolate and keep them under observation until they are cured and are normal human beings.

      West must realize

      JIHAD IS A WAR, ever-going;

      not against West, or Only West.

      It is jihad verses humanity

      In fact it is Jihad verses Reason, Freedom, sanity, love, women, animal, kafir, rivers, sea, dog, pig, wolf or anything & everything on this Planet and beyond.

      It is as much against East, if not more.

      It is not Clash of Civilizations; it is Clash with Civilizations of the Barbarians.

      Unfortunately, Jihad got attention of West only after, the heat was unbearable for it.

      On the other hand, The East, especially Bharat (that is India), bore the brunt of the Jihad attack for centuries.

      Dear Westerners, please understand clearly that Jihad is not only against the West, it is as much against the East, specifically against all humanity and now the human race has to fight it out, JOINTLY.

      You need to know: How Jihadis overran India!

      Who uprooted Jihadis?

      Who are Sikhs? How they contained Jihad?

      How and why Sikhism was formed!

      Why Sikhs were specially targeted & how were they tortured to death for not accepting Islam?

      Why Jihadis still consider Sikhs as enemy No.1 and a Potential Death Threat!

      To stop Jihad, the West should do what Sikhs did Centuries back, and remember that time Sikhs were badly outnumbered, out of power, had no Nation, no State, were on the run, individual properties were confiscated and were having a Price and a Prize on their Heads.

      The slaughter of India started much before that in the West. Right from 714 AD. Although ‘Test Fire Skirmish’ took place decades before any major onslaught.

      How Bharat survived and still keeps going strongly is a study case for the West.

      The struggle of the Hindus to resist the Jihadi aggression into India was spread over a period of 600 years from 715 AD. up to 1328 AD. This contrasts with the swift Muslim victories in Persia (Iran) over the Zoroastrian Sassanians and in Mesopotamia, Egypt and North Africa over the Romans (Byzantines). The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease. And even after subjugating different parts of the country, they were never able to rule it entirely. The next 400 years from 1328 up to 1720 was marked by a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The hardest blow to the Jihadis was when their power was at a peak – when they were a superpower and believed to be invincible. Rajputs and Gujjars opposed them first as they were first victims. Later, Jats opposed them. Tribals and almost every community in India opposed them.

      But the role of Sikhs is a special and a source of inspiration. As they did not just fight Jihadis for themselves and just by themselves, they were especially created for the purpose, to end the tyrant.

      Sikhism started with Guru Nanak. He opposed the mighty aggressor Babbar single-handedly. He called him Jabbar (meaning tyrant and cruel) right to his face. Later Guru Arjun Dev was tortured to death for not accepting Islam. The story of the Last Sikh Guru Govind Singh begins as Aurangzeb the Emperor was a most intolerant Sunni Jihadi. To him Sufis and Shias were also infidels. Intoxicated by his power, he was killing Hindus on refusal to convert to Islam. Kashmir being the center of learning and Land of the Learned (Brahmans) became his special area of interest, as he believed converting intellectuals is more useful and easier. Disappointed, helpless Brahmins of Kashmir met Guru Teg Bhadur father of Last Guru with a hope. After discussions with them Guru Teg Bhadur sent a message to Aurangzeb that “all Hindus especially Kashmir Brahmins will embrace Islam willingly, provided you convince me and convert me”. This was a heartening development for Aurangzeb. By just converting one man he would get Paradise with 72 Virgins. Guru visited Delhi; he was made to converse with Quazi. Kazi said:” Idol worshiping and ringing of bells to please God is a sin. Muslims don’t do it, and we must finish these idol worshipers.” Guru said:” I don’t worship Idols nor believe in bells and I am against this ritual.” Kazi asked:” Why are you siding with them, if its so? “Guru said:” I don’t have the right to kill someone who does not believe in what I believe. I am for freedom first.” Not being able to convince Guru, his companions were brutally tortured before him to terrorize him. But he did not budge an inch. Finally Guru Teg Bhadur was also put to Death. This was the turning point in the history. After beheading him, Kazi announced: “In this land of Kafirs anyone who calls himself a Hindu, may come forward and pick your Kafir Guru’s head. There was a crowd of thousands and most of them were Hindus. But no one dared to come forward. That was declared the end of Hinduism. However, there was a dust storm and, taking advantage of it, one man cleverly managed to smuggle out the head of the beheaded Guru. He took Guru’s head straight to Punjab. He narrated the whole story to Guru Teg Bhadur’s son, the next and last Sikh Guru. “My Lord, no one dared to expose himself as Hindu, though there were thousands of them.”

      Guru Govind Singh thought if Hindus can not dare to say publicly that they are Hindus that really means Hinduism has now ceased to exist.” Private, in-house rituals done secretly are not going to last long. One must have the courage to affirm his or her faith openly otherwise let’s disown our respective faiths. Timid should be turned into Soldier. At this point of time So Guru Govind Singh gave Sikhs an Identity, a sign and lost Pride through 5ks, the bearing of which meant he can not shy away from the fact that he is a follower of his faith. These sign are hair, (unshorn), Kirpan/weapon Kara, Kachha, Kanga . Now onward turncoat can not be a Sikh. If you are a Sikh you are a thorough Sikh, Sikh inside and Sikh outside. No room for escape. Your enemy knows you, be ready to face it; otherwise you are not a Sikh and you can’t be. That is it ! This boldness and direct challenge is the only Mantra to answer Jihad, and to radicals, to oppressors, to mad lunatics. No double-mindedness, I am what I am, I am here to save humanity, old or young, sturdy or fragile but I am bold and strong; I am a Sikh. Sikh Slogans and challenging chants are ‘Chardikala’ meaning ‘in high spirits’. Sikhs chant it even when injured or dying or even in captivity. ‘Sat Sri Akal’ meaning Truth shall prevail. ‘Raj Karega Khalsa, aaki rahe na koy’ The Pure shall rule (not oppressors with worldly power) and there is no impediment in that.

      Now the whole Human race needs same firmness and zero tolerance against Jihadis. Guru Teg Bhadur did not die for his faith; he was not an Idol worshiper: he died for others faith and his principal which is: ” not to oppress and not to be oppressed “.

      From the very beginning they were outward looking, developing new relations and maintaining old ones, seeking new techniques, seeking and providing help from and to anyone and everyone who can defeat Jihadis.

      Still how a handful of Sikhs overthrew the Mighty Moguls, chased Jihadis right up to their burrows in Afghanistan and Iran, took over Kabul, Kandahar, and Jalalabad, and made them sign a “document of repentance and apology” for their and their forefather’s misadventures/misdeeds. Nalwa made Afghans wear Salwar Kamiz (the dress of women, who were seen as lowly creatures and slaves by Jihadis). This was blow to their ego, against their, beliefs and considered as humiliation to self esteem of ‘Great Warrior Tribes’. This situation cropped up because ‘Brave Pathan Mercenaries’ tried to escape as women, disguised as women, by putting dressed in Salwar-Kamiz and a Burqua on top of it. Since the Sikh commander-in-chief : Hari Singh Nalwa’s order to his men was : ‘no rape, no molestation, and no harm to children’. While trying to fool Nalwa & Sikhs, they were caught in women dresses. Nalwa sneered and spared them as ‘Men without Manliness’ so at par with women.

      Afghans had to accept this humiliation and, later it became part of their life, and now it is their ‘National Dress’. Arabs still taunt Afghans as homos and Kafir regarding the Salwar issue.

      Battle of Saragarhi, fought in September is just on example, where 21 Sikhs in an unknown land, ill-equipped and cordoned off, battled with 15000 Jihadis, for three days till their last man was killed. Figures are: Sikh Causalities 21, Jihadis Causalities 600 on the spot and 2000 wounded, from unconfirmed sources to 2500 killed latter because of battle wounds and 4000 Injured.

      We all need to study, what were military and other strategies and strengths of Sikhs? What can we learn from Sikh history?

      As history revels despite Jihadis being in absolute Power when Sikhs came into being, there was reverse conversion, through dialogue and peaceful means.

      How hurting was Islamic Rule impact on India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh that a new religion/Panth came into being as retaliation?

      In living memory

      India (Bharat) was tragically partitioned nearly six decades back(1947). The great tragedy is that it was not partitioned as “Muslim India” and ” Hindu India” or ” Muslim India” and “Non-Muslim India” but as “Muslim India” ( now Pakistan ) and “Secular India”.

      In other words Muslims got a Muslim Monopoly ( Darul-Islam Country) in Pakistan as well as a share in Bharat (India) where they are equal partners with Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists, who got one country to be shared amongst them and Muslims. .

      It was a clear victory for Jihad, but was projected as a Win-Win situation by Gandhi and his sponsors and former Colonial Masters ‘The British’.

      Busy in celebrating or reconciling WW II, the West did not realize the Jihad that had taken Place in East.

      This ‘Independence’ had a price tag “One and a half Millions Deaths”, “Uprooting of 10s of Millions” of citizens on the basis of religion ( very obviously favoring Jihadis) and the seeds of another Jihad/Partition to be watered by left-over Jihadis in Secular India, Jihadis smartly hidden in the garb of Liberal Hindu culture/Secularism..

      It was a Win-Win Situation in fact for Jihadis ( the new Rulers of Pakistan ) and for their Partners in the establishment of Secular India.

      Jihadis got a full-fledged Nation State (Pakistan) plus Rights in the other Nation State called India, by being Equal Partners in it.

      India’s new, installed and incompetent leaders also felt themselves winners, because they got rid of their competitors in power, especially Mr. Jinnah who could outsmart incompetent Indian Leaders/ Installed Agents.

      One Mr. Mohan the Ringleader of these incompetent, imposed and bogus leaders wanted himself to be written down in history as the apostle of Love, and he succeeded in it.

      He fooled the world that time, now the world is still fooling itself by seeing that agent, power-broker, Jihad-Sympathizer and veiled Jihadi as a SAINT! The deceiver was probably also hoping for a Nobel Peace Prize. His followers, who are still in absolute power in India, are still trying to get a Nobel Peace Prize for him posthumously.

      The Jihadi Propaganda was so strong that at one time even Hindus started feeling that Sikhs were too inhuman to Jihadis, without realizing ‘Human Rights for Right Humans only’. Hindus were made to believe by Ringleader called ‘SAINT’ and his followers (most probably to serve Jihadi interests) Sikhs were no longer their well-wishers and this strategy did work to some extend, at one point some Sikhs started distancing themselves from their Hindu brothers. But in fact the bond between the two communities is so strong that nothing can separate them. ‘It was like cutting water with a stick’ as old Punjabi saying is. Jihadis failed miserably in their operation and their stooges so called Seculars and followers of Dubious Saint could not accomplish the assigned project

      Sikhs did not fight the Jihadis just for themselves, but for the whole Human Race. Since Sikhs realized the time bomb has not to be just neutralized, but be diffused and dismantled and destroyed. Sikhs also did not fight just by themselves.

      As expected, in six decades the population of Non-Muslims that was more than 20% in Pakistan has diminished to less than 3%.

      The reason is Jihad, working to, convince the gullible, give concessions to, and indulgence to terrorizing the traumatized Non-Muslims to convert.

      The population of Bangladesh ( a State which later separated from Pakistan) had more than 35% Hindu Population now has less than 7% Hindus.

      Whereas the Muslim Population of Bharat (India) that was lesser than 10% after Partition, is now anything between 15 to 25%. This Game of Demography is another struggle, lost by Bharat (India) and followers of Indigenous Dharma/Panths (Religions) including non-Jihadi foreign-originated Religions (of course now these religions are as much part of India as Indigenous Religions/Panths)

      Furthermore, Zoroastrianism is condemned in its country of origin, Iran , but is respected in Bharat. This religious tolerance of Bharat was respected by Parsis but is exploited by Jihadis.

      Now whole world Knows Sikhs, so Support Sikhs, adopt their strategies.

      Hereby, continuing the Sikh Tradition, ‘I appeal to the whole human race to unite against Jihadis’.

      Why am I writing this to the Christian West? Since you need; the Sikh (type)-Christians to counter the onslaught by this anti-human, evil cult.
      FAQ 1.
      “There are allegation of fraud conversion to Christianity by Christian Missionaries, why are you not against Christianity?”
      Answer. First, Christianity is a Religion with humane basics, no one who adheres to Manav Dharma by means of any Bharat Panths, cannot be against any Religion.
      Second. Christianity is not with a mindset of Subjugation, Conquest or justifying any means including lies, deceitful means or promises virgins to convert.
      Third, I am against Cheats. Taking the advantage of its religious tolerance some (Un)Christian Missionaries are also into spurious conversions, but its overzealousness of some Christian denominations, Churches and individuals behind it. No way can Holy Bible be held responsible, nor is any Christian Governments budgeting the conversion or actively or remotely promoting it. The damage done by these Missionaries to Indigenous Dharma/Religion are
      a: the converts are uprooted from their roots, cut off from their folks and there is mistrust between neo-converts and parental community.
      b: They identify themselves with alien faith that they hardly understand since the Missionaries converting them are namesake Christian, anyhow the neo-converts are alienated from motherland. These neo-Converts in turn convert more aboriginals, Tribals, poor, disadvantageous victims. They use every method from ‘planted miracles’ to glorifying false stories about Jesus to draw analogies with Hindu Gods the animal and fallible gods of primitive, lowly, colonized Hindu Race. Now these neo-converts become anti-Hindu, and identify Jihadis as lesser enemy or even friends as discriminated cousins.
      c: The neo-convert (and their white masters) in turn are extremely dedicated, sometimes they are carried away, sometimes because of own reasons and most of the time to prove their loyalty. They keep inventing Christianity and have created a Pagan-Christianity. So this false Christianity is doing harm to soul of Christianity as the genuine peace loving Missionaries also get maligned.
      d: Much of Christian and Hindu force is spent contending each other, like Jews and Christians or Catholic and Protestants. This dilutes their energy to fight Universal Evil ‘The Jihad’.

      FAQ 2.
      “Are Sikhs Hindus?”
      Answer. I say No, they are not. Now I counter question:” Is butter milk?” The answer is here: Butter is not milk, it is enhanced milk. It is not milk yet butter is milk.
      Sikh is by not Hindu. Sikhism is an Independent Panth.
      Sikh is not Hindu technically (legally). Sikhism is an independent Panth, like any other Panth of Bharat.
      I repeat Sikh is not Hindu, the same way butter is not milk, and Sikh is very much a Hindu as butter is only milk though in a different form.
      Conclusion:
      1. ‘Whole human race to unite against Jihadis’.
      2. While eradicating the disease the patients should be dealt carefully and very humanly, isolate and keep them under observation until they are cured and are normal human beings. Surgical operations should be done where required but Mercy killings should be avoided.

  26. New Crusader
    May 19, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Regardless of who you are the most important 2 square feet on the planet are the ones you’re standing on, not the ones behind the pulpit or the altar.

    Consider these words:

    “The worship of God is a duty; the hearing and reading of sermons may be useful; but, if men rest in hearing and praying, as too many do, it is as if a tree should value itself on being watered and putting forth leaves, though it never produce any fruit.”
    Benjamin Franklin 1753AD

    Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it and found none. So he said to the gardener, ‘See here! For three years, I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree, and still I find none. Cut it down! Why should it be wasting the soil?’ He replied, ‘Sir, let it alone for one more year, until I dig around it and put manure on it. If it bears fruit next year, well and good; but if not, you can cut it down.
    Jesus Christ 30-33AD

    Perhaps the “Ministers/Pastors” of our day are all too interested in the work of men’s hands, (basic idolatry) not the fruit of the Spirit. Maybe for reasons just like this, the church is atrophying today. Catering to Islam is the disgraceful fruit of an impure root – it will get you cut off.

  27. Jonathan
    June 15, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Similar to previous posts, I believe that these churches are either dead, or seriously compromised to be letting this happen. They must not be spirit-filled churches, but probably politically based social gatherings masquerading as a true Christian churchs. I have been to churches that weren’t sprit filled before, and they always are community centered social gatherings. I fell asleep at some of them during the sermons.
    The mark of a true Christian church is the presence of the Holy Spirit. And if He was there then there would be no doubt among the members that if any should deny Jesus Christ then they are denying God himself, as all muslims do.

  28. nhc
    December 12, 2011 at 7:58 am

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  29. julietsm
    March 29, 2012 at 2:27 am

    Jesus warned his disciples over and over and it is written in the Word of God that FALSE TEACHERS, FALSE CHRISTS, FALSE PROPHETS, FALSE RELIGIONS WOULD VIE TO TAKE US AWAY FROM HIM. If a Christian, after reading the Bible and studying it the way a pastor must study theology and they still don’t get THAT, then they cannot really even be considered Christians at all.
    Jesus spoke of it often; it’s salted all the way through the Bible, how people always fell for false things and to be on our guard. We are to literally to guard our hearts against that which is false.
    But when a thing is not only false, but EVIL, we are to reject it entirely. The whole concept of having imams come into a Christian church was a concept that Christians of the past would NEVER TOLERATE. But the watered-down Christianity of today, with it’s gay clergy and worldliness, is no longer where we can trust our hearts!
    I no longer go to church. I read my Bible, I pray, I praise God with songs and devotions… I will have NO TRUCK WITH ISLAM. It is patently evil, and no Christian is supposed to embrace evil the way we are witnessing Christians of today… God has never been politically correct, and the Word of God is downright offensive to ungodly people, people, I might add, who cannot love God because “No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him to me.” The Christians of today are so far off the track as to no longer be in the ‘game’, (not to make light of it – pardon my pun.)
    Chris, I just don’t get how Christians, educated people who most certainly should know their history, have completely been derailed by islam. This is the very thing Jesus was trying to prepare His followers to resist. Jesus was certainly NOT politically correct, which is in fact part of the reason He was executed.
    I REFUSE, I will LITERALLY DIE BEFORE I WILL KOWTOW TO A RELIGION designed to make a slave of me.
    I would SMOKE CRACK before I would ever trust muslims, and inviting them into one’s church IS no different than nazis being invited into a synagogue.
    I guess we are going to have to suffer because those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Frankly, I don’t want to go where the liberals are taking us: TO OUR VERY DEATHS.

  30. Panthbharti
    March 29, 2012 at 8:25 am

    West rather All must realize JIHAD IS A WAR, EVER-GOING; NOT AGAINST WEST, OR ONLY WEST.

    It is as much against East, if not more.

    Unfortunately, Jihad got attention of West only after, the heat was unbearable for West.

    On other hand The East, especially Bharat that is India, bore the burnt for centuries.

    Westerners please understand this clearly Jihad is not at against West, it is as much against East, in fact against humanity.

    Now human race has to fight it out, jointly.

    You need to know, how Jihadis overran India? How and why Sikhism was formed? Why & How were Sikhs tortured to death for not accepting Islam? Why Jihadis still consider Sikhs as enemy no.1 and Potential Danger/Death?

    To Stop Jihad, west should do what Sikhs did Centuries back, and remember that time Sikhs were outnumbered, out of power, had no Nation or State, they were on run, individual properties confiscated, having Price and Prize for their Head.

    Still, how handful of Sikhs overthrew Mughals the Mighty?

    Chased Jihadis right up to their burrows in Afghanistan, took over Kabul, Kandhar, Jalalbad, made them sign ‘Document of Repentance and Apology’ for their, and their forefathers deeds.

    Sikhs made Afghans wear Salwar Kamiz the dress of women( who were seen as lowly creatures/slave by Jihadis of that time) and was against their tenet, considered as humiliation to great warriors.

    Why they were forced for wearing women dress is interesting. Pathans mercenaries tried to escape, disguised themselves as women by putting on Burqua and Salwar Kamiz under it. Because Sikh commander-in-chief Hari Singh Nalwa ordered his men ‘no rape, no molestation, no harm to women or children’.

    Too fool Sikhs their men tried to pass as women, but made fool of them as they were caught. Like Head of Red Mosque did in Lahore couple of years back.

    Hari Singh gave them choice either to fight like a man, or to declare them self unmanly thus avail concessions for women. But these concessions had a condition that this concession is valid only to those who dress like women.

    Afghans had to digest it, irony is, it latter it became part of their life, and now it is their ‘National Dress’.

    Arabs still taunt Afghans as women/unmanly ,homos and Kafir on Salwar issue.

    What were military and other strategies and strength of the Sikhs?

    What can we learn from Sikh history?

    Imagine how deadly the impact of Islamic Rulers was on India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh; that a new religion/Panth came into being as retaliation.

    Sikhs suffered but never surrendered, again six decades back Bharat was tragically partitioned.

    Partition of India is a tragedy. But the greater tragedy is, it was not partitioned as Muslim India and Hindu India or Muslim India and Non-Muslim India, but as Exclusive Muslim India that is now Pakistan and Shared Secular India. In other words Muslims got one Muslim Monopoly or Darul-Islam Country Pakistan and other Bharat (India) where they are again equal Partners.

    Hindus, Sikhs, Christians & Buddhists got one country to be shared amongst themselves and Muslims as equal Partners.

    It was Victory of Jihad; went unnoticed. And the Greatest Tragedy is that it was projected as win-win situation for

    both Muslims and non-Muslims by Gandhi and his sponsors and former Colonial Masters The British.

    It like after 50 years their are riots in US and it is decided that half of US is Islamic and other half is common, and termed as Win-Win Justice to both Islamists and Christian, Jews, aboriginals.

    Busy in celebrating or reconciling WW IInd the west could not realize Jihad that has taken Place.

    An Independence that has been tricked into, at cost of Millions of life, transfer of 10s of Millions of citizens on basis of religion(in a very intelligible manner favoring Jihadis) and seeds of another Jihad/Partition left in Secular India(hidden in grab of Liberal/left Hindu culture/Secularism).

    It was Win-Win Situation in fact, but for Jihadis the new Rulers of Pakistan and their (natural Partners) Establishment of Secular India. Jihadis got a full-fledged Nation State Pakistan and another Nation State called India in which they became Equal Partners.

    India’s new and incompetent leaders also felt as winners because (a) got rid of their competitors in power, especially Jinnah who could outsmart Indian Leaders (incompetent and imposed by British)

    The ringleader of these incompetent, imposed and bogus leaders wanted himself to be written as apostle of Love in history and he succeeded in it. He fooled the world that time and the world is still fooling itself by believing that agent, powerbroker, Jihad-Sympathizer and veiled Jihadi as SAINT.

    He was probably also aspiring for Noble Prize, his followers who are in still in absolute power in India are still trying get Noble Prize for him posthumously.

    As expected in six decades population of Non-Muslims that was more than 20% in Pakistan diminished to less than 3%. The reason is Jihad, Convincing the gullible, concession/ indulgence to willing, terrorizing the sensible, forcing upon challenger the killing the defiant. Population of Bangladesh a State that had latter fallen apart from Pakistan, had more than 35% Hindu Population, now has less than 7% Hindus.

    Where as Muslim Population of Bharat (India) that was <10% after Partition, is now any thing between 15 to 25%.

    The Game of Demography Jihad, lost by Bharat (India) and followers of Indigenous Dharam/Panths (Religions) and other foreign originated Religions as Christians (of course now these religion are as much part of India as Indigenous Religions/Panths).

    Furthermore, Zoroastrianism is condemned in its country of origin, Iran and is respected in Bharat.

    Taking advantage of its religious tolerance was and is exploited by Jihadis.

    Off course some Christians Missionaries are also doing the same, but its overzealousness of some Christian denominations, Churches and individuals behind it.

    However, Holy Bible can not be held responsible for acts of these Missionaries. No Christian Governments are budgeting the conversion racket actively or remotely promoting it.

    The damage done by these Missionaries to Indigenous Dharma/Religion are:

    1. The converts are uprooted from their roots, cut of from their folks and there is mistrust between neo-converts and parental community.

    2. They identify themselves with alien faith, that they hardly understand but they are alienated from motherland. These neo-Converts in turn convert more aboriginals, Tribals, poor, disadvantageous victims. They use every method from 'planted miracles' to glorifying false stories about Jesus to draw analogies with Hindu Gods. Animal, fallible gods of primitive, lowly, colonized Hindu Race. Now these neo-converts.

    3. Once the neo-converts are anti-Hindu, they identify Jihadis as lesser enemy or even friends or as discriminated cousins.

    4. The neo-convert in turn are extremely dedicated, carried away, sometimes because of own reasons and most of the time to prove their loyalty to their White/brown Masters. New converts they keep inventing Christianity and have created a Indianized Pagan-Christianity, thus are corrupting Christianity.

    5. So the false Christianity is doing harm to soul of Christianity and the genuine peace loving Missionaries also get maligned are looked as mischief monger by Proud others so the harmony is disturbed.

    6. Much of Christian and Hindu force is spent contending each other, like Jews and Christians or Catholic and Protestants often do. This dilutes their energy to fight Universal Evil the Jihad.

    Back to History:

    The slaughter on Bharat (India) started much before that of West, Right from 714 AD.

    Though 'Test Fire' Skirmish took place decades before major onslaught.

    Now how did Bharat Survive, and is still going strong is a study case for West.

    The struggle of the Hindus to resist the Jihadi aggression into India was spread over a period of 600 years from 715 AD. Up to 1328 Ad. This contrasts with the swift Muslim victories in Persia (Iran) over the Zoroastrian Sassanians and in Mesopotamia, Egypt and North Africa over the Romans (Byzantines). The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease. And even after subjugating different parts of the country, they were never able to rule it entirely.

    The next 400 years from 1328 up to 1720 was marked by a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Hardest hit was blown to Jihadis by Sikhs, when Muslim power was at peak. When they were a superpower and believed to be invincible.

    Rajputs and Gujjars opposed them first as they were attacked first. Latter Jats opposed them, Tribals and almost every community opposed them in India.

    But the role of Sikhs is a special study case and source of inspiration.

    As Sikhs did not just fought Jihadis for themselves, and by themselves only, they were especially created, to end the tyrant.

    The Sikhism Started with Guru Nanak, He opposed the mighty aggressor Babur single handedly. He called him 'Jabbar 'meaning tyrant/cruel right at his face.

    Later Guru Arjun Dev was tortured to death for not accepting Islam.

    The story of Last Sikh Guru Govind Singh begins. Aurangzeb the Emperor was most intolerant Sunni Jihadi. To him Sufis and Shias were also infidels. In intoxication of his power he was killing Hindus on refusal to convert to Islam.

    Kashmir being the centre of learning and Land of learned (Brahmans) was his special area of interest as he believed converting intellectuals is more useful and easy. Disappointed, helpless Brahmins of Kashmir met Guru Teg Bhadur father of Last Guru with a hope. After discussions with them Guru Teg Bhadur sent a message to Aurangzeb that "all Hindus especially Kashmir Brahmins will embrace Islam willingly, provided you convince me and convert me".

    This was a heartening development for Aurangzeb. By just converting one man he will get paradise, 72 Virgins. Guru visited Delhi; he was made to converse with Quazi. Kazi said Idol worshiping and ringing of bells to please God is a sin. Muslims don't do it, and we must finish these idol worshipers.

    Guru said I don't worship Idols nor believe in bells and I am against this ritual. Kazi asked why are you siding with them, if its so? Guru said I don't have right to kill someone if does not believes in what I believe. I am for freedom first.

    Not being able to convince Guru , his companions were brutally tortured before him to terrorize him. But he did not budge an inch. Finally Guru Teg Bhadur was also put to Death.

    This was the turning point in the history. After beheading him Kazi announced in this land of Kafirs anyone who calls himself a Hindu, may come forward and pick your Kafir Guru's head. There was crowd of thousands and most of them were Hindus. But no one dare to come forward. That was declared end of Hinduism. However, there was a dust storm, taking advantage of it one man cleverly managed to smuggle out his head.

    He took his head straight to Punjab after traveling for nearly three days. He narrated the whole story to Guru Teg Bhadur's son and the next and last Sikh Guru. "No one could dare to affirm himself Hindu though they were thousands of them".

    Son of Beheaded Guru and the last Guru of Sikhs Guru Govind Singh said 'If Hindus can not dare say publicly that they are Hindus, that really means Hinduism has now ceased to exist. Private, in house rituals done secretly are not going to last long. One must have courage to affirm his or her faith openly otherwise let's disown our respective faiths. Timid should be turned into Soldier'.

    So Guru Govind Singh gave Sikhs a sign, bearing which, he can not shy away from the fact that he is a follower of his faith. And that sign is his "Hair'; a turncoat can not be a Sikh.

    If you are a Sikh, you are a thorough Sikh, Sikh inside and Sikh outside. No scope escapism. Your enemy knows you, be ready to face it; otherwise you don't be a Sikh rather you can't be. That is it.

    This boldness and direct challenge is the only answer to Jihad, to radicals, to oppressor, to mad lunatics.

    No double-mindedness, I am what I am. I am here to save humanity, old or young, sturdy or fragile but I am bold and strong; I am a Sikh. Sikh Slogans and addressing forms are 'Chardikala' meaning 'in high spirits'. Sikhs chant it even when injured or dying or even as captivity. 'Sat Sri Akal' meaning Truth shall prevail. 'Raj Karega Khalsa, aaki rahe na koy' Pure shall rule (not oppressors with worldly power) and there is no impediment in that.

    Now whole Human race needs same firmness and zero tolerance against Jihadis. Guru TegBhadur did not die for his faith; he was not an Idol worshiper: he died for others faith and his principal and that is 'not to oppress and not to be oppressed'.

    Know Sikhs, Support Sikhs, adopt their strategies.

    Many opportunist Hindus also sided with Jihadis against Sikhs. As may opportunist Westerners are supporting Jihadis. The Jihadi Propaganda was so strong that at one time of time even Hindus started feeling that Sikhs are to inhuman to Jihadis, without realizing Human Rights for Right Humans only.

    Recently Hindus started feeling Sikhs are no more their well wishers and some Sikhs also started distancing them self from their Hindu brothers. But in fact the bond between two communities is so strong that nothing can separate them.

    So Sikhs just did not fight Jihadis, just for themselves but for Human Race. Sikhs realized the time bomb has not to be just neutralized, but diffused and dismantled and destroyed. Sikhs also did not fight just by themselves. From the very beginning they were extrovert, developing new relations and maintaining old ones, seeking new techniques, seeking and providing help from and to everyone who can defeat Jihadis.

    Here continuing the Sikh Tradition I appeal to Whole Human Race to unite against Jihadis.

    One question some people ask me is, are Sikhs Hindus?

    No, they are not. I counter question them, is Butter Milk answer is here.

    Butter is no milk but enhanced milk, but it is not milk. Yes, butter is milk because it originates from milk.

    Butter is not possible without milk.

    Why I am writing it to Christian West, You need Sikh (type)-Christians to be raised to counter onslaught of anti-human evil cult.

    • admin
      March 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm

      Welcome to the site!

      You have echoed the words of many here. Atheists, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, etc….must unite against the common enemy of Islam.

    • eib
      March 30, 2012 at 6:41 am

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      Many opportunist Hindus also sided with Jihadis against Sikhs.
      end

      This is a serious mistake; one that could have been made only by people with no knowledge of their history with Islam, and the near-genocide that continues against Hindus and Sikhs together in the name of Islam.
      People who ally themselves with raw force are foolish and corrupt.

  31. eib
    March 30, 2012 at 6:43 am

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    1. The converts are uprooted from their roots, cut of from their folks and there is mistrust between neo-converts and parental community.
    end

    This is an important point.
    One thing I’ve noticed about converts to Islam from the West, is that they cease to be Western in their thinking, in their approach to cause and effect and in their approach to relationships.
    Islam is like a cultural virus, replacing rational patterns of thinking with magic and superstition, replacing the rule of law with the rule of the sword.

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