Defeat Jihad Summit~ F. Gaffney to Jasser: How can We Reform Islam?

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Why Muslims and Non-Muslims Cannot Reform Islam

The other day a colleague of mine named Martel Sobieskey, alerted me to YouTube video of the recent Frank Gaffney “lead” Defeat Jihad Summit. Just as in the past, Team Gaffney has no real long-term answers in winning this war. In fact this time Frank truly showed just how uninformed he is on Islam itself, and his straight out fear of naming Islam itself as the enemy. Something Zuhdi Jasser encourages him to do.

In case you did not know, just weeks before this summit Frank’s “Tiger Team” released a “new strategy” in order to defeat the jihad, and part of the plan is to follow the failed plan of empowering the “good” Muslims.

Page 9:

In particular, such a strategy requires that we direct our support, legitimating and outreach efforts to non-Jihad Muslims, and deny it to the jihadis (most especially, the Muslim Brotherhood). This is critical to empowering the former and de-legitimating the latter. It is also essential if we are to thwart the shariah-adherents’ concerted bid to dominate the non-adherent Muslim community and compel it to conform to shariah.8 The strategy can be done within a framework of religious tolerance by focusing on shariah’s supremacist and jihad elements as the enemy’s threat doctrine, thereby avoiding a frontal assault on the Muslim faith. To be clear, shariah’s adherents insist that they are one and the same and that any Muslim who believes otherwise is an apostate, which is a capital offense. Yet, surely there exists some….

We have been hearing that line of “thinking” ever since 911. How has it been working out for the West?

Defeat Jihad Summit

At approximately the 4:07 mark Frank starts absolutely gushing over Jasser as he introduces him. Gushing over a man whose “reform campaign” has no Mosque support, and there are very good reasons for that. I like to call them the three theological strikes against Islam reforming.

(In the video Jasser attempts to discount the world renowned Sahih Ahadith, which are respected by all four Sunni schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Hanbali, Hanafi,Maliki, and Shafi΄i. But for the sake of the article I will play along and expose his fraudulent “reform campaign” by going Koran only.)

Koran

1. Allah himself said the Koran cannot be changed

Koran 10:64: Altafsir. com

{ لَهُمُ ٱلْبُشْرَىٰ فِي ٱلْحَياةِ ٱلدُّنْيَا وَفِي ٱلآخِرَةِ لاَ تَبْدِيلَ لِكَلِمَاتِ ٱللَّهِ ذٰلِكَ هُوَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ }

Theirs are good tidings in the life of this world: in a hadīth verified by al-Hākim this has been explained as [referring to] a propitious vision which an individual might have or [a vision] which another might have of that person; and in the Hereafter: Paradise and reward. There is no changing the Words of God, no failing of His promises; that, mentioned, is the supreme triumph.

Are we supposed to believe that the Muslim community is going to hold the words of Zuhdi Jasser higher than Allahs?

2. The Seal of the Prophets

Koran 33:40:

{ مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَـٰكِن رَّسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ ٱلنَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيماً }

Muhammad is not the father of any man among you: he is not Zayd’s biological father and so it is not unlawful for him to marry his [former] wife Zaynab [after him]; but, he is, the Messenger of God and the Seal of the Prophets, and so he will not have a son that is a [fully grown] man to be a prophet after him (a variant reading [for khātim al-nabiyyīna] has khātam al-nabiyyīn, as in the instrument [known as a] ‘seal’, in other words, their [prophethood] has been sealed by him). And God has knowledge of all things, among these is the fact that there will be no prophet after him, and even when the lord Jesus descends [at the end of days] he will rule according to his [Muhammad’s] Law.

Is Zuhdi the next prophet? Apparently not.

3. Islam is perfect

{ حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ ٱلْمَيْتَةُ وَٱلْدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ ٱلْخِنْزِيرِ وَمَآ أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ ٱللَّهِ بِهِ وَٱلْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَٱلْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَٱلْمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَٱلنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَآ أَكَلَ ٱلسَّبُعُ إِلاَّ مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى ٱلنُّصُبِ وَأَنْ تَسْتَقْسِمُواْ بِٱلأَزْلاَمِ ذٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ ٱلْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن دِينِكُمْ فَلاَ تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَٱخْشَوْنِ ٱلْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ ٱلإِسْلٰمَ دِيناً فَمَنِ ٱضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لإِثْمٍ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ }

Forbidden to you is carrion, that is, the consumption of it, and blood, that is, what has been spilt, as mentioned in [sūrat] al-An‘ām [Q. 6:145], and the flesh of swine, and what has been hallowed to other than God, in that it was sacrificed in the name of something other than Him, and the beast strangled, to death, and the beast beaten down, to death, and the beast fallen, from a height to its death, and the beast gored, to death by another, and what beasts of prey have devoured, of such animals — except for what you have sacrificed duly, catching it while it still breathes life and then sacrificing it — and what has been sacrificed in, the name of, idols (nusub is the plural of nusāb) and that you apportion, that is, that you demand an oath or a ruling, through the divining of arrows (azlām: the plural of zalam or zulam, which is a qidh, ‘a small arrow’, without feathers or a head). There were seven of these [arrows], [marked] with flags, and they were retained by the keeper of the Ka‘ba. They would use them for abitrations and when they commanded them they obeyed, and if they prohibited them they would desist; that is wickedness, a rebellion against obedience. And on the Day of ‘Arafa in the year of the Farewell Pilgrimage, the following was revealed: Today the disbelievers have despaired of your religion, of you apostatising from it, having hoped for it [earlier], for now they perceived its strength; therefore do not fear them, but fear Me. Today I have perfected your religion for you, that is, its rulings and obligations (after this [verse] nothing about [what is] lawful or unlawful was revealed) and I have completed My favour upon you, by perfecting it [your religion], but it is also said by [effecting] their safe entry into Mecca; and I have approved, chosen, Islam for you as religion. But whoever is constrained by emptiness, by hunger, to consume some of what has been forbidden him and consumes it, not inclining purposely to sin, to an act of disobedience — then God is Forgiving, to him for what he has consumed, Merciful, to him by permitting it to him, in contrast to the one who [purposely] inclines to sin, that is, the one actively engaged in it, such as a waylayer or a criminal, for whom [such] consumption is forbidden.

How can one change “perfection”?

Those are the three strikes on why it will not reform. Now we will take a look at five reasons showing us why we as non-Muslims, will not be able to help reform Islam as Frank believes.

1. The Koran views non-Muslims as lacking in intellect.

Koran 2:171:

{ وَمَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ كَمَثَلِ ٱلَّذِي يَنْعِقُ بِمَا لاَ يَسْمَعُ إِلاَّ دُعَآءً وَنِدَآءً صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ }

The likeness, the attribute, of those who disbelieve, and the one who calls them to guidance, is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry, only a sound, not understanding its meaning: when they listen to an admonition they are like cattle that hear the cry of their shepherd but do not understand what he is saying; they are deaf, dumb, blind — they do not comprehend, any admonition.

2. The Koran instructs Muslims not to befriend Jews and Christians.

Koran 5:51:

{ يَـٰأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ ٱلْيَهُودَ وَٱلنَّصَارَىٰ أَوْلِيَآءَ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّالِمِينَ }

O you who believe, do not take Jews and Christians as patrons, affiliating with them or showing them affection; they are patrons of each other, being united in disbelief. Whoever amongst you affiliates with them, he is one of them, counted with them. God does not guide the folk who do wrong, by affiliating with disbelievers.

3. The Koran calls for Muslims to subjugate or wage war on Jews and Christians.

Koran 9:29:

{ قَاتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلاَ بِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلْحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُواْ ٱلْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ }

Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam — from among of those who (min, ‘from’, explains [the previous] alladhīna, ‘those who’) have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily (‘an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning, ‘compliantly’, or ‘by their own hands’, not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam.

4. The Koran calls for very strict punishment on those who fight against Allah, Mohammad, and Muslims. Trying to change what Islam is certainly fighting Allah.

Koran 5:33:

{ إِنَّمَا جَزَآءُ ٱلَّذِينَ يُحَارِبُونَ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَسْعَوْنَ فِي ٱلأَرْضِ فَسَاداً أَن يُقَتَّلُوۤاْ أَوْ يُصَلَّبُوۤاْ أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُم مِّنْ خِلافٍ أَوْ يُنفَوْاْ مِنَ ٱلأَرْضِ ذٰلِكَ لَهُمْ خِزْيٌ فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَلَهُمْ فِي ٱلآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ }

The following was revealed when the ‘Arniyyūn came to Medina suffering from some illness, and the Prophet (s) gave them permission to go and drink from the camels’ urine and milk. Once they felt well they slew the Prophet’s shepherd and stole the herd of camels: Truly the only requital of those who fight against God and His Messenger, by fighting against Muslims, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there, by waylaying, is that they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides, that is, their right hands and left feet, or be banished from the land (the aw, ‘or’, is [used] to indicate the [separate] application of [each of] the cases [listed]; thus, death is for those that have only killed; crucifixion is for those that have killed and stolen property; the cutting off [of limbs on opposite sides] is for those that have stolen property but have not killed; while banishment is for those that pose a threat — this was stated by Ibn ‘Abbās and is the opinion of al-Shāfi‘ī; the more sound of his [al-Shāfi‘ī’s] two opinions is that crucifixion should be for three days after [the] death [of the killer], or, it is also said, shortly before [he is killed]; with banishment are included similar punishments, such as imprisonment and the like). That, mentioned requital, is a degradation, a humiliation, for them in this world; and in the Hereafter theirs will be a great chastisement, namely, the chastisement of the Fire.

5. The Koran banishes non-Muslims to a severe eternal punishment.

Koran 4:56:

{ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِآيَٰتِنَا سَوْفَ نُصْلِيهِمْ نَاراً كُلَّمَا نَضِجَتْ جُلُودُهُمْ بَدَّلْنَٰهُمْ جُلُوداً غَيْرَهَا لِيَذُوقُواْ ٱلْعَذَابَ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَزِيزاً حَكِيماً }

Surely those who disbelieve in Our signs — We shall expose them, We shall admit them, to a Fire, wherein they shall burn; as often as their skins are consumed, burnt, We shall replace them with other skins, restoring them to their initial unburnt state, that they may taste the chastisement, that they may suffer its severity. Surely God is ever Mighty, nothing being beyond His power, Wise, in His creation.

So why would the Muslim community follow those who are lacking in intellect, those they were warned not to befriend, those they are supposed to subjugate, those who are fighting Allah, and those who are damned for an eternity in hell, in an effort to change what Islam is? They wouldn’t, and thinking so is nothing more than uneducated wishful thinking. Please wake up Frank, a non-Muslim attempting to help reform Islam, is the equivalent of a Jew attempting to help reform Nazism. It is not happening!

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18 comments for “Defeat Jihad Summit~ F. Gaffney to Jasser: How can We Reform Islam?

  1. Dajjal
    February 19, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    Avoiding a direct confrontation with Islam is the Acme of Insanity. Get a clue from page 60 of “The Quranic Concept of War”.

    “Terror cannot be struck into the hearts of an army by merely

    cutting its lines of communication or depriving it of its routes

    of withdrawal. It is basically related to the strength or weakness

    of the human soul. It can be instilled only if the opponent’s

    Faith is destroyed. Psychological dislocation is temporary;

    spiritual dislocation is permanent. Psychological dislocation can be

    produced by a physical act but this does not hold good of the

    spiritual dislocation. To instill terror into the hearts of the enemy,

    it is essential. in the ultimate analysis, to dislocate his Faith. An

    invincible Faith is immune to terror. A weak Faith offers inroads

    to terror. The Faith conferred upon us by the Holy Qur’an has

    the inherent strength to ward off terror from us and to enable

    us to strike terror into the enemy. Whatever the form or type of

    strategy directed against the enemy, it must, in order to be effective,

    be capable of striking terror into the hearts of the enemy. A strategy

    that fails to attain this condition suffers from inherent drawbacks

    and weaknesses; and should be reviewed and modified. This rule

    is fully applicable to nuclear as well as conventional wars. It is

    equally true of the strategy of nuclear deterrence in fashion

    today. To be credible and effective, the strategy of deterrence

    must be capable of striking terror into the hearts of the enemy.”

  2. julietsm
    February 19, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    Your argument is sound. Gaffney is a fool.
    Christopher – you’re the only Counter Jihadist that hasn’t let me down.

    • ssmith
      March 16, 2015 at 8:51 pm

      Indeed. Gaffney is a time waster,nothing else. For goodness sakes Gaffney,
      Islam HAS ” reformed” back to basics. After loss of Ottomans and Caliphate.
      Khomeini called in 1980 for jihad against the West. i might have been young then but I remember it well. Nobody else seem to notice let alone cared what that could mean.
      Then I heard a historian on the radio, sounded aged, he wont be with us anymore sadly, telling us in no uncertain terms that the ” beast has re-arisen” And chillingly said, it will NOT be appeased.

  3. al_kidya
    February 20, 2015 at 3:33 am

    Good work, Chris.

  4. Herman Van Keer
    February 20, 2015 at 7:34 am

    With all the evidence in place, WHY oh WHY does it happen that our religious and political ‘leaders’ are still promoting islam and pretending it can be reformed?
    Or are we looking at an elaborated form of takkyia?

    • February 20, 2015 at 1:27 pm

      There could be several reasons Herman. The politically correct disease, they are afraid to take on what is classified as a religion, denial, they want the Muslim voting block, or just flat out cowardice. Take your choice. Either way, our Islam loving politicians and media are slowly killing West Civilization with no concern for their own future generations.

      • Herman Van Keer
        February 20, 2015 at 4:55 pm

        It was a bit of a rhetorical question, but thanks for clarifying. People need to understand this shameful behavior of both political and religious ‘leaders’, and our ‘media’ the ‘objective reporters’.

        We face two fronts in this war; the real enemy islam and the fifth column.The last one really undermining any effort to even start fighting the disease.

        Makes you wonder what makes a politician like Geert Wilders fight and keep on fighting, while attacked again by as well mozlims as his own countrymen, refusing to see the obvious.

        • youknowho
          February 21, 2015 at 1:07 pm

          people who persist in arguing their convictions when the threat is very real are rare breed. Words matter. Maybe don’t use ‘fight’ as that encourages other to ‘fight’ in their preferred manner

  5. February 20, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    Finally someone is saying it, “Islam cannot be reformed” Thank you! Islam cannot be reformed! As long as there is Islam there will be Muslims and as long as there are Muslims there will be terror, death and darkness — directly motivated by the evil instructions of the Koran and example of Muahmmad’s life.

    How hard is this to understand?

    How can anyone reform “scripture?” Impossible!

    All reforms in history have been that of a faith’s leadership, hierarchy, policies and traditions, not the scripture. If any man thinks he can change or reform holy scripture — his scripture is worthless — no matter the faith. It is rendered arbitrary and subjective and man made. It by definition has become false.

    I love Frank Gaffney, his group and much of their work and will continue to enjoy and learn from much of his work in this area. What we cannot do however is go through a purging, a purification process and say everyone fighting against Islam and the terror and Islamic influence and power that comes from it — who disagrees with me on this or that — is somehow a fool or on the other side in this war. That actually makes us the enemy of the truth if we cannot stand united on areas of principle where we agree.

    We are never going to agree on everything 100%.

    Additionally this fight is with Islam and it’s adherents to scripture. There are such things as cultural Muslims or secular Muslims, and those raised Muslim, who are no more connected with Jihadists than you or me — who have no clue of what the Koran teaches. While they are potential threats, they are not a threat in their current capacity, so to call them moderate Muslims is a very accurate term. To claim “all” about any, people, nationality, faith or group is to render yourself illogical, irrational and irrelevant to the conversation.

    • February 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm

      Hi David, thanks for dropping by!

    • February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      Another reason Islam will not reform is because in order to do so Muslims would have to rid it of its central figure, Mohammad. We both know that is impossible to do.

    • youknowho
      February 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm

      Islam is a totalitarian culture/religion/political/legal system that must be considered the ‘perfect’ and ‘just’ mandate of Allah by it’s adherents, else they are apostates or blasphemers. There can be no reform, only replacement of all other systems.

    • youknowho
      February 21, 2015 at 1:13 pm

      Do you know anyone who can or will answer this question: What is it to be Muslim if not to yearn for a caliphate and sharia?

      • February 22, 2015 at 12:46 am

        I understand what you are saying and I believe it to be true that every authentic Muslim must believe in those things — but that is far different from saying this notion is what every Muslim believes. There are many Muslims as secular and removed from Islam as there are Christians removed from the Gospel of Christ. The difference is if the Christian studies and applies the Gospel he/she should become an even better person — while the Muslim if he studies his Koran is more likely to become radicalized and an Islamic terrorist.

        • February 22, 2015 at 1:07 pm

          Then they should officially apostate. By remaining a Muslim they are helping keep Islam alive, and there is no way to separate the “good” Muslims from the bad. The bottom line with their immigration is treachery. In order for Western Civilization to survive all Muslim immigration must be stopped.

          • February 23, 2015 at 11:58 am

            I agree, immigration is going to lead to more and more death and if not stopped the take over of the country and the culture and eventually the civilization. Their efforts to create voting blocks and elect more and more Muslims is to embed themselves into a system of tolerance that they can eventually exploit to their benefit and intolerance. This fight requires millions of Americans which is why our words and tactics are so very important. But to claim most Muslims believe this way or that or should simply throw off their antiseptic views of Islam or family tradition is of little value. What we should proclaim should be both true and useful. If it is only true we might feel good about it but changing hearts and minds is what is most important — not being right. Thank you for all your efforts. Glad I found you!

  6. Debs.nz
    February 20, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    Nice one Chris. Sick of a lot of the ‘anti-jihad’ and their 1/2 baked confusing message! God gave us a brain! Islam is Islam and it is for all time according to Muhammad and moslems. Can’t change that because that would mean questioning/criticizing Muhammad, can’t do that….I keel you! This argument is becoming comical really. The real Counter-Jihad are doing a stand up job and there is a noticeable difference in the messages of the 2 camps. Anti-jihad says ‘moderate’ moslems can reform Islam, not true. Counter-Jihad says Get out if you don’t like our countries, our way of life. BAN ISLAM! NS

  7. February 21, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    Loganswarning states: “attempting to help reform Islam, is the equivalent of a Jew helping to reform nazism.”

    BRAVO! In this one line, Logan exposes the vile corruption and sedition in the majority of our leadership. Logan tells the truth and well understands that Islam is a predator, and like a lion, can never be reformed to eat grass as if it were a lamb.

    Martel Sobieskey

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