“Today, I am a Muslim Too” Rally~ A Day of DECEPTION!~ Vids and Pics!

On Sunday a few friends and I attended the rain drenched “Today, I am a Muslim Too” rally. Arriving early I decided to walk over and take some pictures of them setting up.

Right off the bat, I could see the day of deception had started!.

Of course they don’t actual state what “peace” for Jew’s and Christians means under the barbarity of Shariah Law.

o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated.

Trying to lure the liberal Jews to their side, they conveniently left out the fact that Mohammad hated Jews!

Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366:
It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

In an effort to con those who do not follow this subject closely, they had a massive US Flag hanging off the side of their stage.

Unfortunately many people will see this and think Muslims are just like everyone else who loves America. The difference is that one of the reasons Muslims “love” America, is because of freedom of religion. A freedom they slowly use against us to destroy us from within.

Since it was still early I headed over to go and help Pamela’s Geller’s team distribute some flyers.

Hat tip to Pamela Hall, Andrea, and Tom on the flyer distribution efforts.

About 30 minutes later I went back to the Islamic stage to catch the opening act of their dog and pony show. While I have nothing against the girl in the video, the idea of parading her around as a propaganda tool is despicable! I also find them implying that their religion of kidnapping, plundering, rape, and slavery is somehow American, despicable!

After she left the stage two men, one a Jew and the other a Muslim came on to introduce the upcoming speakers. At the one minute mark listen how they bring up the Barbary Coast Wars, and the Treaty of Tripoli. Stating America has no enmity against Islamic Law! If you ask me, that part was staged.

The first speaker to deliver another IslamoCON was Imam Shamsi Ali of NY’s Islamic Cultural Center. The Imam’s goal was to minimize religion, trying to get everyone to focus on the message that we are all Americans. As if nothing else mattered.

The second to speak was Rabbi Schneier, who claimed Muslims in America are just like the rest of us. Is that so Rabbi? I am not in favor of Shariah Law. They are! See the difference?

I wonder how the Rabbi justifies the anti-Semitism that Islam spews? BTW Schneier, the careers of Muslims do not mean they are anti-Shariah.

Muslim Hadith Book 041, Number 6985:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

After they were done using the Rabbi, the Muslim host said that America should be corrected when “wrong”.

What most non-Muslims do not know was that he was referring to Koran verse 003.110. Which says that Muslims are above all. What happened to their message of equality?

YUSUFALI: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.

When we look at the Sahih (authentic) Bukhari Hadith, we see what the verse really stands for.

Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Verse:–“You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.

But hey, why would any member of the MSM actually do some research on Islam?

Listening to those two speakers was more than enough for me. So I headed out of the bullpen to try and accomplish my main goal for being there. That was to have a little chat with Russel Simmons and Imam Rauf. But unfortunately they were safely tucked away under a white tent. The color white is a symbol of Russell Simmons waving the white flag of surrender, and bowing to Islam.

Imam Shariah….

Russel Simmons is on the right with the baseball cap.

I am going to close this report with some random shots of the crowd. Tomorrow we will dive back into the information war, as we will unmask the literature the opposition was handing out.

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69 comments for ““Today, I am a Muslim Too” Rally~ A Day of DECEPTION!~ Vids and Pics!

  1. March 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    I want to see beautiful deeds coming from the Muslims, and not Muslim Suicide Bombers, and other Muslim atrocities. Until then…..

  2. March 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Today an American Jihadist died in Somalia. He wasn’t the first. Maybe some Muslims got some self examination to do? Until then… all I see are condescending tactics designed to school the Dhimmi.

  3. eib
    March 8, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Quote:
    At the one minute mark listen how they bring up the Barbary Coast Wars, and the Treaty of Tripoli. Stating America has no enmity against Islamic Law!
    end quote.

    I think what the treaty of 1796 meant was that we do not object to Sharia law in Tripoli.
    That was never an invitation to set up Sharia in the U.S.
    Just because the U.S. is not a Christian state doesn’t mean it’s a Muslim state.

  4. eib
    March 8, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    So you’re a Muslim . . . ?
    Careful what you wish for.
    Careful what you say.
    Because other Muslims will demand much, much more of you if you submit.
    If you submit once, you will have to submit a thousand times.
    If you resist a thousand times and die, at least you are free.

  5. AmericanMe
    March 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    “But I came in peace”

    Like the V?!!!!!?!!!

    “An injustice to one is an injustice to all”
    They forget to tell ya that that statement refers to muslims only.

    We need a fifth column!

  6. Emm
    March 8, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    @eib:
    The U.S. is a Christian nation/state, errr.. was, Obama declared that America was no longer a Christian nation..

    • eib
      March 8, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      It depands upon what Christian means.
      Is that majority Christian, or a Christian nation-state?

      Here are two exhibits indicating that the U.S. is not a Christian nation.

      Quote:
      ARTICLE 11.
      As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

      end quote.

      http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

      This treaty was negotiated in 1796, but the peace it brought was far from lasting.
      In spite of this assertion, Muslim powers still raided ships and enslaved Americans.

      Second:

      Quote:
      I – Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      end quote.

      http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/rights1.asp

      This is the Establishment Clause.
      It states that no religion will become the state religion of the U.S.
      EVER!
      If Sharia courts ever rule over U.S. citizens, if Islam ever becomes a state religion, or ever in Christianity is ever a state religion, whoever is involved in these acts will violate these laws.

      The political structure of this country is separated from the church, the mosk, the temple, whatever.
      Religious institutions have no political power here.
      And it is to preserve things as they are that this site & others exist.

      • AmericanMe
        March 8, 2011 at 6:47 pm

        Thanks for your post it is well stated and accurate.

      • Sylvia Greene
        March 9, 2011 at 11:28 pm

        Congress shall make no law.. establishing any one religion. This means no one specific religion will be followed. Freedom OF religion is not the same as freedom FROM religion , which is what most educators and liberals are trying hard to establish. They love quoting this separation from church and state as meaning that Christians have no voice or rights in any capacity. This is used to get rid of National Day of Prayer, strip the Ten Commandments from walls, and to keep the Bible from being taught( which by the way is legal to do in colleges), as a literary book.

        • Andrew Gelbman
          March 11, 2011 at 12:47 am

          Sylvia, the first amendment reads as follows: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

          Note, it prohibits an establishment of religion in the general – not “of any one religion” but “of religion”

          This means that the U.S. has no official position on religion – thereby guaranteeing all Americans absolute freedom to believe what they like about religion.

          The problem with the Islamist movement is it seeks to establish Shari’a in America, which violates the 1st Amendment since Shari’a requires preferential treatment of Muslims and bars non-Muslims from holding public office (which in turn violates Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution which prohibits any religious test for public office)

  7. dm60462
    March 8, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    I believe in …one, holy, catholic
    and apostolic Church.

    Today (and every other day) I am NOT a Moslem, too.

    • AmericanMe
      March 8, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      I second that emotion

    • eib
      March 8, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      I’m a Catholic myself, but I have some interest in Orthodox Christianity also.
      I have some problems with the Catechism’s stand on Islam because it doesn’t say outright that Islam is profane.
      The idea that Allah is the God we worship is incorrect– it’s a Muslim idea that has been imposed on us, and Muslims will retaliate, perhaps violently, if we abandon it. Remember the Pope’s speech in Regensburg, and how he backtracked.
      We can’t afford to do that any more.
      We have to make real demands of Islam–
      we must insist that Christianity can and will be practiced in Muslim lands, and that missionary activity will be tolerated.
      We must demand complete deregulation of religious practice and the release of all other denominations and religions from the al-dhimma pacts.
      We’ve been told for centuries that this is asking too much.
      It isn’t.
      We must also confront Islam as a conquering force in history and in the now, and call Muslims immigrants what they are– conquerors, colonists, imperialists, settlers.
      If they act like citizens, then they should be called citizens.
      But if they spend their time demanding space for their unreasoning culture, corrupt laws and hurting the indigenes, then they should be called conquerors– unwelcome.

      • eib
        March 8, 2011 at 8:03 pm

        We must also stand up for other religions and cultures threatened by Islam.
        Case in point: the indigenes of Greenland.

  8. Damien
    March 8, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Admin,

    speaking of Imam Rauf. You know even some critics of Islam don’t see anything wrong with him and the Ground Zero Mosque that’s planning to build. The guy who made this video has the youtube user name of Klingschor. Klingschor has defend other critics of Islam on few occasions. However he doesn’t agree with you on the Mosque or Rauf.

    Cordoba Haus (The Ground Zero Mosque)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Klingschor#p/u/81/ocjmJn69hMA

    He says he’ll change his mind if someone can give him a convincing argument however. I’m wondering if you could try to persuade him. Don’t expect it to be easy through, he claims to have read the Koran and all the Islamic Literature, and he often knows what he’s talking about.

    If you don’t believe that he is someone critical of Islam, check out his profile and some of the other videos he made, including this one.

    Paedophilia Redux: A Klingschor-SWO PWNage of Farzanatasneem (“Clean” Version)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Klingschor#p/u/85/79bVE51dPTM

    By they way, the guy with the beard goes by the User name SnowWalker One.

    • Damien
      March 9, 2011 at 10:43 am

      Sorry, I should have correct a couple mistakes before posting this.

  9. March 9, 2011 at 3:32 am

    Chris, thanks for giving a look-in at the demonstration to those of us stranded on this side of the pond. .your pictures convey the scene to a wide audience and are very helpful in assessing the ‘situation on the ground’.

    • admin
      March 9, 2011 at 9:29 am

      You’re welcome mate!

  10. filthy kafur
    March 9, 2011 at 3:51 am

    And what about the fact that Jesus (isa) wont return to judge to muslims and others until the muslims murder all the jews? Did they explain that to the groups forming?

    And if they are a muslim too toay, then if they are not a muslim tommorrow, they have to be put to death for apostasy

    • emmi
      March 9, 2011 at 12:52 pm

      And they say that humans are more intelligent than animals!

  11. poptoy
    March 9, 2011 at 4:15 am

    WELL TODAY I AM NOT MUSLIM. I WAS NOT ONE YESTERDAY. I AM PRETTY DAMNED SURE I WILL NOT BE ONE TOMORROW. IN FACT….NEVER. NOW WHERE IN THE HELL DID THEY PUT THAT CAMEL?

  12. March 9, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Rabbi Schneier and his ilk are merely members of the voluntary Sonderkommando. They intend to be the last in the line for the manufacture of the soap with which moderate Muslims wash the guilt from their hands.

    • Ari K
      March 9, 2011 at 8:46 am

      That is pushing it a bit too far.

      • March 9, 2011 at 11:43 am

        You really think so? I truly believe if Muslims take over then Jews are finished. Three quarters of attacks on Jews in Europe are committed by Muslims and that’s with Muslims being a minority group.
        Fools like Rabbi Schneier are voluntary Sonderkommando, in my book.
        If people don’t think Muslims can be as bad as nazis, then they haven’t seen the numerous videos online. As far as I am aware, Muslim “radicals” are the only ones testing poisonous gases on animals for use in terrorist attacks.

        • emmi
          March 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm

          Throughout the world poisonous gases are tested on animals.

  13. Lord Tottenham
    March 9, 2011 at 9:38 am

    How many “usefull idiots” turned up?
    Over here in England,undercover TV programes frequently show Muslim Imams saying one thing in public,then saying the complete opposite when they are amongst their…( peace) loving friends in the mosque.
    Are the liberal left forever to be void of common sense?

    • eib
      March 9, 2011 at 10:09 am

      If their duplicity is acknowledged enough to be shown on TV, then why do they yet retain so much authority?
      I have a feeling that the counter-jihad in England is just a matter of reflection and thought on the part of most Britons.
      With so many Muslims there, and Islamic culture so prevalent, the divide in culture, interest and principles between the Western Britons and the Muslims should be getting clearer every day.
      Islam is not a race.
      Even if every Muslim in Britain was ethnically British, the threat would remain.
      Nor is Islam an ethnicity.
      To oppose it is not xenophobia.
      It is a desire to preserve Western Civilization.

  14. NoBurqa
    March 9, 2011 at 9:47 am

    LOL, I thought you’d be bearing an “I’m NOT a Muslim, EITHER!” sign.

  15. Anne
    March 9, 2011 at 10:03 am

    “An injustice to one is an injustice to all”. Indeed. That is why Americans, whether Christians or Jews, must defend and be in solidarity with their brethren who are persecuted and killed wherever islamists have power.

    Sadly, they are gaining power here by using “Today I am a Muslim tool” idiots.

    I’d love to see how many of the useful idiots would stand anywhere with a sign that says “Today I am a Coptic Christian”…

    • eib
      March 9, 2011 at 10:06 am

      I would dare any of the people at the “I am a Muslim too” demonstration to say just that– “I am a Coptic Christian too”.
      And “Alexandria is the land of the martyrs.” It is. The real ones who die instead of kill for their faith.

      • Anne
        March 9, 2011 at 10:32 am

        And speaking of Coptic Christians, go to Gates of Vienna to see what the Muslimes of “liberated” and newly “democratic” Egypt are doing to those poor suffering people, the martyrs of the 21st century barbarians.

        These people make the Aztecs look good.

        • March 9, 2011 at 11:54 am

          We in SIOE have spoken about Copts and others at our demonstrations and sent out numerous press releases, both from ourselves and forwarded from Coptic organisations. In return we are branded “racists” – the catch-all accusation (except when it is Muslims attacking others).

  16. March 9, 2011 at 10:21 am

    I want a sign “I’m not a mussie today and not any other day either for that matter.”

  17. Adina Kutnicki, Israel
    March 9, 2011 at 10:41 am

    And to ALL the useful idiots I have this to say – just wait until exploding suicide bombers-courtesy of Islamic doctrine-comes to a city near you.On a bus, at a cafe, at a mall, railway station, or wherever you happen to be, rest assured they will show the true ways of, ‘I am a Muslim too’.

    Until then, I implore ALL clear, rational Americans to imbibe, ‘Infiltration’ by Sperry, and ‘The Muslim Mafia’ by Gaubatz and Sperry-for starters.

    The circus-like spectacle of this rally will then come into clear focus.
    Do your due diligence, your lives depend on it!!

  18. Tired Veteran
    March 9, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Thanks for the coverage of the event.
    Just them havig that woman drape herself in our flag to sing the anthem shows their ignorance of American law and their lack of desire to follow it. Wearing the flag is very innappropriate.

  19. Herman
    March 9, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    911 Mosque Founder wants to Establish Shariah in USA‏
    http://www.shoebat.com/blog/archives/273
    May 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    REVEALED IN ARABIC – GROUND ZERO MOSQUE FOUNDER RAUF WANTS TO ESTABLISH SHARIAH
    by Walid Shoebat

    Is Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf – founder of the hugely controversial Ground Zero Mosque – lying to the American public?

    We have uncovered extraordinary contradictions between what he says in English and what he says in Arabic that raise serious questions about his true intentions in the construction of the mosque.

  20. Fran_Ingram
    March 9, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Infuriating how they go on about love and peace. When Pastor Terry Jones was there in NY last 9/11, the NY police were sure if he went below Canal Street, he would be killed. When you talk with Muslims they start out trying to convince you you are wrong, but when they get nowhere, they always get angry and attack you, verbally, and often with physical threats. (We have had lots at Dove…) Such is the true spirit of Islam.

    • emmi
      March 9, 2011 at 1:18 pm

      When Geert Wilders was invited to come to the UK a Muslim in the House of Lords said that he would gather 10,000 Muslims to attack Parliament. The Government banned G.Wilders. He was ‘allowed’ to visit later. A bunch of screaming Muslims called for his death in accordance with Islamic law. They ordered the police to bring him out, then go home so that he could be dealt with in two minutes. I saw on the internet that a group of Muslims wanted his head on a stake. No prosecutions of course, can’t offend Muslims.
      Why don’t they take up knitting or embroidery to help with their tensions? Putting people’s heads on stakes in your leisure time…hardly sane. And for a peaceful religion they are incredibly noisy.

      • eib
        March 9, 2011 at 3:36 pm

        Quote:
        When Geert Wilders was invited to come to the UK a Muslim in the House of Lords said that he would gather 10,000 Muslims to attack Parliament. The Government banned G.Wilders.
        end quote.

        Proof positive that the rule of force is more powerful than the rule of law, Western tradition and precedent in the UK.
        Muslims as British nobles?
        They’re the biggest traitors of all. And I seem to remember that being a noble, even being a monarch, was no protection at all against arrest, accusation, and beheading by the government.

        • eib
          March 9, 2011 at 3:36 pm

          Yes, even the most noble, the highest of the Brits can be TRAITORS.

          • emmi
            March 10, 2011 at 11:54 am

            Muslims getting into high places is part of the strategy. FBI uncovered the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy Plan.

  21. March 9, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    I’m afraid the Jews and Christians who are supporting the Islamization of America are cutting the throats of their children and grandchildren without realizing it.

  22. Kelly Kafir
    March 9, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Now I wouldn’t mind burning that flag now that it has been desecrated! And for singing so hideously and in the wrong key…

  23. arthur
    March 10, 2011 at 5:44 am

    People should remember two simple things. muslims want us all under sharia law or dead!!
    SIMPLES!!!

    • Vivi Andersen - Denmark
      March 11, 2011 at 5:48 am

      You are right!

      And they will suceed because we will just fight with words.

      They know – and they laught !

  24. Iq
    March 12, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    I cannot believe how pathetic this website is do you really think this website is’to educate non-Muslims on the ideology & practice of Islam and to Islam’s threats to our free and open society’ Excuse me have you ever read the Quran have you ever talked to a Muslim who follows the right rules of Islam! If you did then you would know the religion of Islam is about peace! Dissapointed that we still have Racism in the 21st century!

    • admin
      March 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm

      Of course you did not even refute one of my statements on Islam. What race is Islam?

      Let me know when you want to debate me the Islamic scriptures. I’ll even give you a helping hand. Attack words like “racism” don’t work here. Get a new play book.

    • eib
      March 12, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      Quote:
      Excuse me have you ever read the Quran have you ever talked to a Muslim who follows the right rules of Islam!
      end quote.

      You have made the mistake of trying to argue with a Westerner.
      We have our own perspective on Islam.
      We don’t need any help from Muslim conquerors.
      We view you our way.
      You don’t force your perspective on us.

    • eib
      March 12, 2011 at 5:28 pm

      Racism?
      Always racializing Islam!
      We know that Islam is not a race. Even if the conquest was done by white Muslims or black Muslims, it would still be conquest!
      And we resist!
      We do not submit!
      Islam is profane.
      Mohammed is a false prophet.
      The Quran is a book of lies.
      Allah is a demon.
      You do not worship the same god as Christians and Jews– your religion is not Abrahamic, but Arabic.
      In fact, you despise Christians and Jews because their traditions will outlive yours.

    • eib
      March 12, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      Quote:
      If you did then you would know the religion of Islam is about peace!
      end quote.

      Here is the peace that Islam is about:

      Islam’s Latest Contributions to Peace
      “Mohammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
      to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” Quran 48:29

      2011.03.10 (Peshawar, Pakistan) – Mujahideen fire on a car containing a peace committee contingent, killing the driver.
      2011.03.10 (Jolo, Philippines) – Abu Sayyaf militants detonate a shrapnel bomb outside a school, killing three innocents.
      2011.03.10 (Bauchi, Nigeria) – At least three residents are killed when Fulani raiders sweep their village, shooting and burning homes.
      2011.03.10 (Kunduz, Afghanistan) – A local police chief on patrol is among three people ripped to shreds by a suicide bomber.
      2011.03.09 (Diyala, Iraq) – A 3-year-old girl is dismembered, and her father seriously wounded by a targeted al-Qaeda blast outside their house.
      2011.03.09 (al-Makheirja, Iraq) – Mujahideen toss a grenade into a family home, killing a man and a woman.

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

      Want a little more? There’s plenty!
      http://observers.france24.com/content/20110308-police-stand-back-two-men-burned-alive-mob-ivory-coast-gbagbo

      Even dogs aren’t safe:

      http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/local-west-yorkshire-news/2011/03/05/dalton-man-shamrez-ali-wasim-jailed-for-trying-to-slice-puppy-s-ear-off-86081-28283126/2/#ixzz1GMlYV9i0

      Children are not safe from or even in Islam:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

      EVERY VICTIM was a Christian.
      EVERY PERP was a Muslim at Beslan.
      A cross is erected where the school stood.
      And when Muslims there complained about their own losses, they were made silent by the rage of the Christians.
      The true North Ossetians.

      Islam is profane.

  25. eib
    March 12, 2011 at 5:48 pm
  26. September 3, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Dan on April 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm:The Christian definition of the Four Virtues, by St. Augustine is as follows:According to St. Augustine, virtue leads to a happy life. Virtue is perfect love of God. The four virtues, for St. Augustine, are taken from four forms of love. The four virtues are the following:Temperance is love giving itself entirely to that which is loved (God). Temperance is love keeping itself entire and incorrupt for God. Let us consider temperance, which promises us a kind of integrity and incorruption in the love by which we are united to God. The office of temperance is in restraining and quieting the passions which make us pant for those things which turn us away from the laws of God and from the enjoyment of His goodness, that is, in a word, from the happy life.Fortitude is love readily bearing all things for the sake of the loved object. Fortitude is love bearing everything for the sake of God. Scriptures present to us a woman of amazing fortitude, and I must at once go on to her case. This woman, along with seven children, allowed the tyrant and executioner to extract her vitals from her body rather than a profane word from her mouth. What patience could be greater than this? And yet why should we be astonished that the love of God, implanted in her inmost heart, bore up against the tyrant, and executioner, and pain, and sex, and natural affection? Had she not heard, “Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints?” It is because she heard, “A patient man is better than the mightiest?” Proverbs 16:32. She heard, “All that is appointed you receive; and in pain bear it; and in abasement keep your patience: for in fire are gold and silver tried?” Sirach 2:4-5. She heard, “The fire tries the vessels of the potter, and for just men is the trial of tribulation?” Sirach 27:6. These verses she knew, and many other precepts of fortitude written in these books, which alone existed at that time, by the same divine Spirit who writes those precepts in the New Testament.Justice, according to St. Augustine is another virtue. Justice is love serving only the loved object (which is God) and therefore rules rightly. Justice is love serving God only, and therefore ruling all things well. The lover, then, whom we are describing, will get from justice this rule of life, that he must with perfect readiness serve the God whom he loves, who is the highest good, the highest wisdom, and the highest peace. This rule of life, is, as we have shown, confirmed by the authority of both Testaments.It may be thought that there is nothing here about man himself, the lover, but it is impossible for one who loves God not to love himself. For he alone has a proper love for himself, when he demonstrates that he aims diligently to please God, who is the chief and true good; what is to prevent one who loves God from loving himself? And then, among men should there be no bond of mutual love? We can think of no surer step towards the love of God than the love of man to man.Prudence, another virtue according to St. Augustine, is love distinguishing with sagacity between what hinders it and what helps it. The object of the highest love is only God. Prudence is love making a right distinction between what helps love towards God and what might hinder it. Prudence determines what is to be desired and what to be shunned. It is part of prudence (good judgment) to keep an active vigilance against any evil influence, which may creep up on us.To seek the good means to live well. Living well is loving God with all your heart, soul and mind. This love must be incorrupt, which is accomplished through moderation. This love must not give way to opposition, which is accomplished through fortitude; this love must serve no other, which is justice and the love must be watchful or evil things will creep in, which is a part of prudence. These things lead to the perfection of man by which he can succeed in attaining purity of truth.It may be thought that there is nothing here about man himself, the lover. It is impossible for one who loves God not to love himself. He who seeks the true good must love himself as well. What is to prevent one who loves God from loving himself? And then, among men should there be no bond of mutual love? Yes, we can think of no surer step towards the love of God than the love of man to man. The first thing to aim at is that we should be benevolent. We should not bear malice or evil against another person. For man is the nearest neighbor of man.Hear also what Paul says: “The love of our neighbor,” he says, “works no ill.” Romans 13:10 A man may sin against another in two ways, either by injuring him or by not helping him when it is in his power. It is for these things, which no loving man would do, that men are called wicked. “The love of our neighbor works no ill.” We cannot attain the good unless we first desist from working evil. Our love of our neighbor is a sort of cradle of our love to God. As it is said, “the love of our neighbor works no ill,” we may rise from this to these other words, “We know that all things issue in good to them that love God.” Romans 8:28

    • eib
      September 3, 2011 at 4:09 pm

      Quote:
      The object of the highest love is only God.
      end

      The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
      I believe in GOD THE FATHER, maker of heaven and earth, I believe in his Only Son Jesus Christ Our Lord, who was conceived by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT and born of the VIRGIN MARY.
      There, in just one sentence, is God.

    • eib
      September 3, 2011 at 4:11 pm

      You demand that we abandon the doctrines of the Incarnation, Trinity, Transfiguration and Salvation.
      Islam is profane.
      Mohammed is a false prophet.
      And Allah is an elemental spirit of the earth.

      • September 3, 2011 at 4:30 pm

        And Amen again eib!!!!

      • eib
        September 4, 2011 at 5:50 am

        The “common word” statement is about love.
        Here is what Jesus Christ, the Son of God and our Redeemer, says about love.

        John 13:34
        Quote:

        New International Version (©1984)
        “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
        New Living Translation (©2007)
        So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.

        English Standard Version (©2001)
        A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

        New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

        International Standard Version (©2008)
        I am giving you a new commandment to love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another.

        GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
        “I’m giving you a new commandment: Love each other in the same way that I have loved you.

        King James Bible
        A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

        American King James Version
        A new commandment I give to you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

        American Standard Version
        A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; even as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
        end

        Romans 12:10
        Quote:

        New International Version (©1984)
        Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.
        New Living Translation (©2007)
        Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other.

        English Standard Version (©2001)
        Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.

        New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        Be devoted to one another in brotherly love; give preference to one another in honor;

        International Standard Version (©2008)
        Be devoted to each other with mutual affection. Excel at showing respect for each other.

        GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
        Be devoted to each other like a loving family. Excel in showing respect for each other.

        King James Bible
        Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

        American King James Version
        Be kindly affectionate one to another with brotherly love; in honor preferring one another;

        Douay-Rheims Bible
        Loving one another with the charity of brotherhood, with honour preventing one another.

        Darby Bible Translation
        as to brotherly love, kindly affectioned towards one another: as to honour, each taking the lead in paying it to the other:
        end

        http://bible.cc/romans/12-10.htm

        Jesus Christ, The Son of God:

        John 3:16
        Quote:
        New International Version (©1984)
        “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
        New Living Translation (©2007)
        “For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

        English Standard Version (©2001)
        “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

        New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

        International Standard Version (©2008)
        “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.

        GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
        God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.

        King James Bible
        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

        American King James Version
        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

        American Standard Version
        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

        Bible in Basic English
        For God had such love for the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever has faith in him may not come to destruction but have eternal life.

        Douay-Rheims Bible
        For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

        Darby Bible Translation
        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him may not perish, but have life eternal.
        end

        Now, this might seem like a lot of cutting and pasting to you, but the point has to be made that Christianity is not Islam, and Islam can never be the equal of Christianity in the eyes of God.
        The Muslim submits like a slave. He allows his very soul to be raped over and over again.
        He allows his children to suffer from abject poverty, and he turns an indifferent and cruel expression to his wife.
        He is entitled to murder, rape, steal, and destroy the belongings of communities other than his own.
        He is given unlimited ethical license in matters of crime.
        And then he fancies himself free.
        He is not free.
        His community is miserable.
        The generations pass.
        And nothing changes.
        Now he has decided to turn his conquering eyes on the West. Shall we give him quarter?
        I say no. Never.

    • eib
      September 3, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Quote:
      For he alone has a proper love for himself, when he demonstrates that he aims diligently to please God, who is the chief and true good; what is to prevent one who loves God from loving himself?
      end

      Self love has no dignity in Christianity.
      Matthew 16:24.
      A passage peculiarly missing from your “common word between us”.

      New International Version (©1984)
      Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
      New Living Translation (©2007)
      Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must turn from your selfish ways, take up your cross, and follow me.

      English Standard Version (©2001)
      Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

      New American Standard Bible (©1995)
      Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.

      International Standard Version (©2008)
      Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone wants to follow me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross, and follow me continually.

      http://bible.cc/matthew/16-24.htm

      I am not a Muslim today.
      I am not a Muslim EVER!

      • September 3, 2011 at 8:53 pm

        eib- you are AWESOME!

        • eib
          September 4, 2011 at 5:30 am

          What you’re looking at here, Reverend Dan, are the first shots across your bow in response to your post at “Surround Them With Prayer.”
          You’ll be busy for quite a while countering both the content elements and the essence of the “common word” statement.
          But it can be done– this pronouncement and threat is not valid. I’ve always said that if you need a lot of words to make a point, then you never had much of a point to begin with.
          I find the message extremely threatening to Christian doctrine, and anyone who signs it for any reason has truly submitted.

          • September 4, 2011 at 6:15 am

            I think you are right eib. I hope to have the response to the letter from the muslim scholars posted tomorrow. Then “the shots across the bow” will really begin. I suspect when I start posting the letters to the “Christians” who signed the Common Word letter the “shots” will come fast and furious!

      • eib
        September 4, 2011 at 5:36 am

        Way of the Cross
        Quote:

        New International Version (©1984)
        Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
        New Living Translation (©2007)
        Then, calling the crowd to join his disciples, he said, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must turn from your selfish ways, take up your cross, and follow me.

        English Standard Version (©2001)
        And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

        New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        And He summoned the crowd with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.

        International Standard Version (©2008)
        Then Jesus called the crowd to himself along with his disciples and said to them, “If anyone wants to follow me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross, and follow me continually,

        GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
        Then Jesus called the crowd to himself along with his disciples. He said to them, “Those who want to follow me must say no to the things they want, pick up their crosses, and follow me.

        King James Bible
        And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

        American King James Version
        And when he had called the people to him with his disciples also, he said to them, Whoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

        American Standard Version
        And he called unto him the multitude with his disciples, and said unto them, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

        Bible in Basic English
        And turning to the mass of people with his disciples, he said to them, If any man has the desire to come after me, let him give up all other desires, and take up his cross and come after me.

        Douay-Rheims Bible
        And calling the multitude together with his disciples, he said to them: If any man will follow me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

        Darby Bible Translation
        And having called the crowd with his disciples, he said to them, Whoever desires to come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me.

        http://bible.cc/mark/8-34.htm

        I am not a Muslim EVER!

      • eib
        September 4, 2011 at 5:40 am

        Way of the Cross Continued
        Luke 9:23
        Quote:
        Then he said to them all: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.
        New Living Translation (©2007)
        Then he said to the crowd, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must turn from your selfish ways, take up your cross daily, and follow me.

        English Standard Version (©2001)
        And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.

        New American Standard Bible (©1995)
        And He was saying to them all, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me.

        International Standard Version (©2008)
        Then he said to all of them, “If anyone wants to come with me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross every day, and follow me continually,

        GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
        He said to all of them, “Those who want to come with me must say no to the things they want, pick up their crosses every day, and follow me.

        King James Bible
        And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

        American King James Version
        And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

        American Standard Version
        And he said unto all, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

        Bible in Basic English
        And he said to them all, If any man has a desire to come after me, let him give up all, and take up his cross every day, and come after me.

        Douay-Rheims Bible
        And he said to all: If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

        Darby Bible Translation
        And he said to them all, If any one will come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me;

        end
        http://bible.cc/luke/9-23.htm

        Islam is profane.
        Mohammed is a false prophet.
        Allah is an elemental spirit of the world.
        There is no love in Islam.
        There is only imperative, threat, intimidation, conquest, mass murder and systematic humiliation of the other.
        Muslim culture is corrupt.

  27. eib
    September 4, 2011 at 8:39 am

    “Today, I am a Muslim too.”

    That’s what this man wanted the queen of the Netherlands to say.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/09/netherlands-muslim-disrupts-concert-for-queen-to-preach-islam.html

    First the disruption of the orchestral performance in London, and now this.
    Looks like Muslims want us to stop making and listening to music– particularly WESTERN music.
    Lan astaslem.
    And while I’m at it, damn you too.
    That’s what should have been said. The news stories have tried to paint this cultural enricher as somehow disturbed or distressed.
    I assure you, he feels no distress.
    He is demanding that they submit or die.
    He is a conqueror.
    He should be despised.

  28. February 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    The signs should read:” I am a Muslim too and a Dhimmi and a useful Idiot.

    • September 8, 2012 at 5:54 am

      The real meaning of Islam is PEACE for ALL (Rahmatan lil A’lamin)

      • admin
        September 9, 2012 at 3:43 am

        Do you really think your comment is going to make me forget what Islamic Law entails? Seriously, is that the best you can come up with?

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