Hat tip on the articles, and pictures to New Crusader.
Here we go again. Another Islamic terrorist plot is foiled (Christmas tree lighting plot), and non-Muslims come running out to hear Muslims tell them what they want to hear. That Islam is a religion of peace. Hearing this is much easier for them, than actually facing 1400 years of Islamic terrorism and conquest. The rally took place this past Sunday at the Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland. Lets review it.
The high-profile case has further stirred misconceptions about Islam that need to be clarified, said Mohamed Kassim, an OSU senior.
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The day after the attempted bomb plot in Portland, Kassim said some students questioned whether Mohamud was scheming simply because he is Muslim. “That’s not what Islam is about,” Kassim told them.
Kassim have you ever read the Sahih Muslim ahadith? Because this world renowned Islamic scholar proves your comment to be false.
Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4311:
It is narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: War is a stratagem.
The definition of stratagem can be found HERE.
Since the vigil, Mohamed Siala, director of the center, wanted a similar rally in Portland where he and other religious leaders could publicly condemn terrorism.
“Such heinous acts do not represent Islam in any shape or way,” Siala said at Pioneer Square. “They are against the desire of Muslims, even if some Muslims betray their faith and do acts of terrorism.”
Mohamed, have you ever done a thorough study on the man you were named after? Because if you did, you would know your statement is just not true.
Koran verse 008.060
YUSUFALI: Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
Sahih Muslim Hadith Book 004, Number 1062:
Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon hlmg) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me.
Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).
“Why can’t we all live in peace?” Siala asked. “Hatred and violence only brings more bloodshed.”
Because your religion calls for perpetual war, that is why.
Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”
Amir Abdelli, another OSU student, held a sign in red lettering, “Islam Says love All Mankind.”
Islam says for Muslims to dominate non-Muslims. I could do without that kind of “love”.
Siala and other Corvallis religious leaders say they have embraced one another’s faiths to show their unity and to honor their diverse community. John Dennis, for example, senior pastor at Corvallis First Presbyterian Church, participated in Ramadan this year, Islam’s holiest month. It showed him how different cultures can be unified.
Here we have another so called Christian leader who is promoting a religion, that is out to destroy his, and insults the Jesus of Christianity.
Likewise, during the first week of December, Benjamin Barnett, rabbi at Beit Am Synagogue in Corvallis, invited Siala and Imam Yosof Wanly to celebrate Hanukkah with the Jewish community. After the party, Siala told Barnett of his hope for a rally in Portland at Pioneer Courthouse Square. The two leaders met several days later at Sunnyside Cafe in Corvallis to plan.
“I was immediately very moved and inspired by that,” said Barnett, who had not been able to attend the Corvallis rally after the fire at the mosque. “It was a very courageous choice on his part, to stand up there as a Muslim leader, to condemn the act in the name of Islam.”
Maybe he is against violence, maybe he isn’t. His religion encourages him to lie. Did you know this Rabbi? Why don’t you ask him his views on Israel? Does he condemn Sharia Law?
This is not the end of the story though. Shir Tikvah a liberal Jewish organization in Portland, has written a letter of support of the Muslim community and Islam.
From Rabbi Ariel Stone: Our Jewish Community Must Stand Up for Muslim Communities and Holy Places
December 6th, 2010
Hanukkah 5771 – In the wake of the attack on the mosque in Corvallis, we as Jews must not fail to speak out and act in support of our fellow citizens, the Muslim and Arab communities.
We must reject any attempt at collective judgment or punishment on the part of those who see the blame for violence that falsely calls itself Muslim. Jews know well that at times of political tension,minority groups are vulnerable; as Jews we are called upon to insist upon justice for all. Tzedek, tzedek tirdof, l’ma’an tikhyeh, “justice, justice shall you pursue, that you may live” (Deut. 16.20). Jews have often been made to suffer as scapegoats; we have known what it means to be targeted for blame unjustly. There are those who willfully refuse to make distinctions between those who do violence in the name of religious belief, and the much larger peaceful adherents of that religion. It is done to Jews, and it is done to Muslims, and we dare not stand idly by the blood of our neighbor in this. In the end, there is no distinction; what happens to one happens to us all. All Jews and all Jewish organizations and institutions must stand up and reject the targeting of Muslims and Arabs; we must affirm with our words and acts what the Shura Council of Oregon and Southwest Washington affirm: that Islam is a religion of peace, and we will not allow it to be hijacked by murderers who falsely wrap themselves in its cloak. We must stand together, we who know what it means to stand alone.
Rabbi, I will make a list for you. Lets see if you respond after I email this to you.
1. Did you see those verses above about Mohammad? Did he falsely claim to be a Muslim?
2. You mention the “larger” peaceful adherents”. Please tell me who the President of the Muslims Against Hamas organization is.
3. You only seem to think that violent Muslims are a threat. Do you know that Muslims control Temple Mount? That shows us how Muslims slowly takeover without being violent. The threat of Islam goes way beyond violence, and Islam should not be supported at all by non-Muslims.
4. Once again, look at the verses above. Are you claiming that Mohammad hijacked his own religion?
5. Did you do any research on this issue at all, or did you just blindly believe what the Shura Council of Oregon and Southwest Washington told you?
The Rabbi can be reached HERE.
The willingness to remain purposely blind to the threat of Islam, only empowers Islam. The slow suicide continues…
Oh, those useful idiots- determined to ruin this country.
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Amir Abdelli, another OSU student, held a sign in red lettering, “Islam Says love All Mankind.”
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I am reminded of the Martians in “Mars Attacks!”
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“Such heinous acts do not represent Islam in any shape or way,” Siala said at Pioneer Square. “They are against the desire of Muslims, even if some Muslims betray their faith and do acts of terrorism.”
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Don’t tell that to the West.
Tell that to Muslims . . . in Arabic.
What can the world expect from some Jews. They waited for the Nazis to exterminate them until it was almost to late. For eons they continually would not learn to follow God’s commands. Rejecting God, with their impatience. God would punish them for a time. And they’d do it again. As much as they are a people that stand at the front gates and hold back hell in the middle east, there will always be some that reject and interpret God’s commands to suite their beliefs. At the rate Israel’s own peoples are going I would not be surprised if Israel was sacked all over again. Don’t get me wrong I have great respect for them. I support them. The Israelis who truly know what is at stake.
My America is not far from this same predicament.
Bull! We now have leaders in Congress who know about the evil of islam. And I am going to make sure that I support and encourage them.
Ok granted we have Congress now. Then what? What Republican Presidential hopeful can really stand into the breach of the American Presidency that has the fortitude to stand firm to do the things that MUST be done to STOP this tide against Islamists coming to America. Only a Constitutional amendment and dropping out of the UN could alter it.
The only one I can think of – that most people won’t like – Newt – I have to say honestly I don’t know much about him- but I do support him on his stance he has taken lately – have you all seen this headline on fox today? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/27/somali-islamist-insurgents-threaten-attack-627018837/?test=latestnews
Well it might actually work in his behalf, that way he can come out of the closest and say how he is protecting the American public.
Ever hear of “shoot now, ask questions later”
I DO NOT trust the mooseslimes as far as I could throw them. Anybody who does, is a FOOL! America better wake up, tune them out, then ship them out! No more listening to their lies! NO MORE PC crap! I am sure there are some “good ones” in the bunch, but that’s just too damn bad for them! IF this country is to survive, we better get rid of them. They are a cancer to any nation that accomodates them. SHOW me ONE that it does not apply to! JUST ONE where they have not moved in and took over, or close to taking over.
However, I expect as much from the Libtards of Oregon! Sure, let em take over you guys! Your broke anyway, maybe they will bail you out before they kill you.
I guess I need to write some more lettere. I am so disappointed in my fellow Christian Pastors who insist on leading their flocks to slaughter. If any of them would do what the Bible commands us to do, and spread The Gospel of Jesus and Preach from the Bible, this wouldn’t be happening.
We Pastors have to start standing in our Pulpits and tell the truth, not worry about being politicaly correct. The Bible tells us anyone who denies Jesus is the son is the antichrist. That tells us all we need to know about islam.
If you are going to a Christian Church that teaches otherwise, its time to find a new Church!
Instead of letters, send emails. Copy “The Defamation of Jesus Christ” and paste it into those emails.
How the recipients react will separate the wheat from the tares.
Pastor Dan thank you for saying this! I have had to leave to many churches due to pc and I won’t tolerate it 🙂 But many people won’t wake up until it is to late.
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We Pastors have to start standing in our Pulpits and tell the truth, not worry about being politicaly correct.
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You need say only this:
1. Islam is a profane religion.
2. Mohammed is a false prophet.
3. The Allah of the Koran is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
If this message gets across, and there are many ways in the Bible and Koran to prove it, then you will have done your duty to the integrity of Christianity in the West.
Islam is an errant monotheism.
To be errant is to be in error. Every excellent critique of Islam goes into this. Read St. John Damascene’s critique of Islam. You must understand exactly what you are not submitting to.
the bigger and more obvious and outlandishly unbelievable a lie is, (Islam is Religion of Peace) the easier it becomes to say it and get people to accept it if it gets repeated often and by many groups. It goes against our basic understanding of human nature to think that such a statement could be intentionally a lie, so it must be true. I’ve seen posts that ask, “how can 1.2 billion Muslims be wrong?” Incredulous. Those malcretants are as brain disconnected as a Muslim himself. I hope more true Christian Pastors take an offensive stand against Islam.
I just keep two equations in my head.
In the West:
Law = Reason, humanism and mercy.
Innocent till proven guilty
In Islam
Law = God, fear, suffering and death.
Guilty till proven innocent.
Works for me.
And remember the book “To Serve Mankind” was actually the alien invaders cook book on the twilight zone!
Just wanted to wish Christopher and all the savvy Logan’s Warning readers a Merry Christmas!
Chicken Caliphate Surprise.
Ingredients:
One large duck. (mislabeled as a Tyson chicken)
one loaf of bread crumbles.
half pound of C4 explosive.
two cloves garlic.
one onion diced.
electrical wiring.
three stripes of bacon. (cooked and crumbled)
one detonator.
three tablespoons salt.
one cell phone. (on the no call list please.)
Pluck your duck, (nyuk nyuk nyuk) and behead it while slowly chanting, allahu ackbarn…. allahu ackbarn…
Next, mix bread, C4, garlic, onion, and salt together in a bowl and set aside for later.
Then, take wiring, and connect it to the detonator. insert into the duck. take your bread C4 mixture and CAIRfuly pat down around detonator inside duck.
Take bacon and sprinkle on top for aesthetics, then slap your second wife for back seat cooking. Preheat oven to 375. Cook for one hour per pound (of bird, and C4)
Once your bird is done take it to your local Kafir neighbor, or army recuing center. Drop off your gift of seasons greetings. run away, dial up said Kafir, type in detonation code, and enjoy!
Merry Christmas, from the Religion of peace.
Is it to late for America? We are heading there and every time we give something to Islam in the courts, we move closer to Sharia Law and here is how it is accomplished:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0&feature=player_embedded
At least not everyone is so gullible:
Australia says NO to Muslims
http://us-aaa.com/2010/08/australia-says-no-to-muslims/
Isn’t it obvious that there are nut cases in all religions? I feel kind of embarrassed for anyone, even the so-called “normal” people, who believe the made-up, self-serving religious claptrap of any kind, Christian, Moslem, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever!!! Christians are just as susceptible to getting crazy as are Moslems! There are some pretty ridiculous things in the Bible, too, you know. It’s just a different brand, but bullshit all the same!!
Instead of freedom OF religion, I would like to see freedom FROM religion, if there was no teaching of fairy tales to any one, any where!
Hey! Preacher! Leave those kids’ minds alone!
Please point which other religions besides Islam, are on worldwide movements looking to impose religious laws on all.
Thank you.
The strongest example of the Christians conducting a war to force others to their religion, was the Crusades, a series of invasions of the Holy Land, resulting in the slaughter of many thousands of innocents, in the years 1095-1225.
Another example of the forcible conversion, or attempted conversion, by war undertaken by Christians is the Albigensian Crusade, in southern France.
A third is the — in this case successful conversion by force — invasion of the west coastlands of the Baltic Sea by the Teutonic Knights, from 1220 to 1440; this effort (just like the Crusades and the Albigensian massacre) won the promise of indulgences from His Holiness the Pope.
The Crusades were the result of 100s of years of Muslim aggression, and you really should try dealing in today. Islam is the threat, and that is where the focus of this site shall remain.
Now you will be banned for posting under the name Michael Meo, and Oh please! Your goal of trying to get the focus off of Islam has failed.
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The strongest example of the Christians conducting a war to force others to their religion, was the Crusades,
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Wrong.
Conversion and conquest of entire countries were not objectives of the Crusades.
The capture of Christian holy places from Islam was.
The Crusades were bloody, but not more so than the wars Muslims waged in the 6th & 7th centuries to conquer the entire Middle East, North Africa, and Hindu Kush.
I do not apologize for the Crusades.
I also note that the gains made by Crusaders were ephemeral when looked at beside the centuries of Muslim rule in the region.
And given the campaign against Christians in the Middle East? You’ll be lucky any are left in 30 years.
Talk about a long-term war of conversion and conquest! No one does it like Islam.
You notice if you ask them that question the only answer they can come up with is the Crusades? Get your head out of your ass it is now going on 2011 and the only ones doing the killing are the Muslims.
The Papal Curia has never imposed Roman Canon Law on secular states.
Never.
There is nothing in Christianity that is like the Sharia.
And one more thing.
If Mosaic law still prevailed among Jews, and if it is so perfect and God-given, then why are not Jewish women sacrificing doves on a regular basis?
A progressive culture is distinguished not by what it has, but by what it has left behind.
Jewish courts have never, ever usurped the authority of the secular state.
Dear eib,
Just what do you think the witches, of the many Witch Trials of the 15th and 16th centuries. were burned for?
The Church did not burn them; the secular state did. The crime was that of heresy. That is, the Church convicted some five hundred thousand innocent men, women, and children of failure to believe in the precepts of Christianity, as interpreted by the Catholic Church, and then — since the secular state had established Christianity as the One True Faith — the secular state undertook to carry out the prescribed punishment for failure to believe the Christian doctrine in the manner prescribed by the Catholic priests.
I hope you can see the similarity to Sharia.
What does this have to do with today? Sharia clearly calls for the domination of non-Muslims. Do you expect us to applaud it?
They were burnt because of the mistaken reliance on spectral evidence.
The crime was not heresy because no crime could be confirmed for these suspects. You understand that marks on their bodies and confessions made under torture were what convicted them.
How could Christianity be the one true faith in the 15th and 16th century, when there were so many movements within the religion itself that would culminate in the Reformation of the first decade of the 16th? If anything, the witch scares demonstrate weakness in Christian control, not strength.
I don’t believe that these women were actually tried in Catholic courts. I believe that secular courts tried them based on evidence given by the clergy.
That was how it worked in 17th century New England as well.
Never once was a court convened with a clergyman as judge.
The similarity to Sharia?
No. I don’t see it.
What I see is that Western Civilization ditched the spectral evidence and the Maledictum Malificarum by the second decade of the 18th century.
I see that Islam has yet to change Sharia even one damn jot.
Again, false equivalency.
What this should teach you is that in an intellectually dynamic society, certain institutions and habits of thinking, certain practices can be left behind, can change.
Ideas can lose their authority.
Multiculturalism has lost its authority– people have come to understand that cultures can indeed be in conflict. Liberalism, and even the global vision of perfect harmony have become stale ideas. It’s not just that they are impracticable– their validity and usefulness have come into question.
I don’t hate liberalism– I question it. I do not give it the authority I used to. That doesn’t mean I’m a born-again conservative, it just means that ideas can tap hollow sometimes. I’m not writing here because I hate Islam.
I’m writing here because I have recognized, through study, a pronounced conflict between Islam and the West.
A conflict that will have to be resolved instead of just papered over with false equivalences.
Get rid of Islam
These useful idiots have deluded themselves into thinking that if everyone would just cater to Mohamadans’ demands then terrorism will end. If they would look at the escalation of tyranny and oppression that results from appeasing Islamists, then their baseless wishful thinking would cease. One only need to see what happened in Lebanon in the late twentieth century and in Western Europe in this century.
What the hell is wrong with these Chamberlain like Islam appeasers. You try to talk reason to them and they ALWAYS bring up the crusades (because apparently they don’t know that the crusades were started to protect Christians on their way to Jerusalem from the “peaceful” Muslims) They really need to read Robert Spencer’s “The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Crusades”. It’s like they are retarded – you try to talk about Sharia today and they switch the conversation to crusades and witch burning! Do they not know what is going on around the world to Christians and other relions at the hands of their precious Muslims??? What a bunch of TARDS!
The Northwest is full of dhimmi ready mentality. I’m surprised that a greater inroad for islam has not made here. It is becoming clear they are going to start working on it. Many reactions here in Portland seem to be that the victim is Muhammad Muhammad, and shame on the FBI for such a blatant set up.
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