North American Infidels Debating Tactic #2: “We Respect Jesus”

1391724_615303888510736_1015731033_n-2-300x187In an effort to counter the 24/7 Muslim propaganda machine, North American Infidels (NAI) presents part II in our new Debating Tactics Series.

Two of the most prevalent talking points I see Muslims use are the “we respect Jesus”, and “Islam respects Jesus”. These are used in an attempt get non-Muslims to believe Islam is close to Christianity, while being non-hostile towards it.

There is much more to the story though! What they do not tell you is that Islam has a different version of Jesus. One that is not the Jesus of Christianity friendly!

The first major difference is that even though Jesus said was the son of God, Muslims do not believe it.

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John 3:16:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Apparently they are more “informed” on the situation than Jesus himself.

Koran verse 112:3: (www.altafsir.com)

He neither begot, for no likeness of Him can exist, nor was begotten, since createdness is precluded in His case.

The second major difference is one that completely and disrespectfully negates the main message of Christianity. The message of Jesus sacrificing himself for the sins of mankind.

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As Koran verse 4:157 states he was not crucified.

Koran verse 4:157

{ وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ مَا لَهُمْ بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلاَّ ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِيناً }

And for their saying, boastfully, ‘We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God’, as they claim: in other words, for all of these [reasons] We have punished them. God, exalted be He, says, in repudiating their claim to have killed him: And yet they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but he, the one slain and crucified, who was an associate of theirs [the Jews], was given the resemblance, of Jesus. In other words, God cast his [Jesus’s] likeness to him and so they thought it was him [Jesus]. And those who disagree concerning him, that is, concerning Jesus, are surely in doubt regarding, the slaying of, him, for some of them said, when they saw the slain man: the face is that of Jesus, but the body is not his, and so it is not he; and others said: no, it is he. They do not have any knowledge of, the slaying of, him, only the pursuit of conjecture (illā ittibā‘a l-zann, is a discontinuous exception) in other words: ‘instead, they follow conjecture regarding him, that which they imagined [they saw]’; and they did not slay him for certain (yaqīnan, a circumstantial qualifier emphasising the denial of the slaying).

Now how is that message respectful to the Jesus of Christianity? It isn’t. But don’t go away, it only gets worse!
According to the Ahadith, Jesus is supposed to return as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. (Break the Cross).
Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 657:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it.” Abu Huraira added “If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): — ‘And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them.” (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)

I wonder if the Christians who believe they have Muslim friends were ever told that? If so how do they reconcile it?

Finally we see that according to the Islamic scriptures, the King of Christianity is going to return and govern by the Koran. Which means Christians and Jews will be second class citizens at best.

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)

Please do not be fooled when Muslims says that they respect Jesus. They are just trying to manipulate you with semantics…

 

 

 

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2 comments for “North American Infidels Debating Tactic #2: “We Respect Jesus”

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      August 7, 2014 at 11:03 am

      A double thanks Mom!

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