University of Michigan Health System/ Journal of Med Ethics put out Call for Physicians to Accommodate Islamic Law

As usual, a Muslim calls for accommodations to Islam, and non-Muslims fall all over themselves to help advance Islam. This time the bowing down to Islam takes place in the medical field, and the Muslim with the demands is Aasim I. Padela M.D.

Aasim Padela, M.D., M.Sc.
University of Michigan

Dr. Padela is an emergency medicine physician who holds bachelor degrees in Biomedical Engineering and Classical Arabic & Literature, attended medical school at Weill Cornell Medical College, and completed his residency at the University of Rochester. His current research focus on cultural accommodations for, healthcare disparities of, and ethical challenges for Muslim and Arab American populations. He is a fellow at the Institute for Social Policy & Understanding, an American Muslim think-tank, working on a project relating to cultural barriers to clinical care for Muslim Americans, collaborating with Dar-ul-Qasim, an Islamic educational institution to probe the frontiers of Islamic bioethics, and conducting CBPR work in Greater Detroit on Arab and Muslim health. His other work focuses on the “culture” of clinical accommodation of patient values in the ED. Of note, he has spent time professionally in Turkey, Qatar, and Egypt.

Padela states that doctors need to accommodate religions. But of course this is all about pushing Islam on non-Muslims. (These will just be the beginning of the Islamic demands.)

From the University of Michigan Health System website.

Padela’s paper, “Muslim Patients And Cross-Gender Interactions In Medicine: An Islamic Bioethical Perspective,” provides a series of practice recommendations to help physicians better accommodate Islamic religious ethics. Practice recommendations include:

Dress Code: Understanding that a patient whose religion requires modesty may not feel comfortable changing into an examination gown. Padela offers a number of alternatives.

Seclusion: Having a chaperone or leaving a door slightly ajar during internal examinations would meet the requirements of Islamic law.

Gender Relations: For patients who follow Islamic ethics concerning cross-gender interaction—when all else is equal—physicians of the same religion and gender are preferred, followed by a non-Muslim of the same gender whenever possible.

Also jumping on the I will bow to Islam bandwagon is the Journal of Medical Ethics, which published the following article.

Law, ethics and medicine

Muslim patients and cross-gender interactions in medicine: an Islamic bioethical perspective

Aasim I Padela, Pablo Rodriguez del Pozo

The manner in which Islamic beliefs and values inform Muslim healthcare behaviours is relatively under-investigated. In an effort to explore the impact of Islam on the relationship between patients and providers, we present an Islamic bioethical perspective on cross-gender relations in the patient-doctor relationship. We will begin with a clinical scenario highlighting three areas of gender interaction that bear clinical relevance: dress code, seclusion of members of the opposite sex and physical contact. Next, we provide a brief overview of the foundations of Islamic law and ethical deliberation and then proceed to develop ethicolegal guidelines pertaining to gender relations within the medical context. At the end of this reflection, we offer some practice recommendations that are attuned to the cultural sensitivities of Muslim patient populations.

The excerpt above was all the JME website showed unless you are a member, or are willing to pay a fee. But there was also an option to to sign up for a free 30 day trial. So I signed up, and now we see the journal completly bowing down to Islam, as the article provides a sales pitch for Islam. Even quoting the Koran and ahadith.

Case vignette
A 35-year-old female presents to an urgent care clinic complaining of leg pain after a fall. The nursing documentation notes that the patient has refused to put on a gown and is accompanied by a male relative. When you enter the examination room you notice a well-appearing African-American female wearing a ḥijāb (a Muslim religious head covering). As you put out your hand to introduce yourself she states ‘Are there any woman doctors around?’

The attempted handshake of members of the opposite sex does not go over big in the Islamic world. I am sure the doctors will eventually comply to that as well.

Islam, Muslims and healthcare disparities

Islam is a monotheistic faith that holds Muhammad ibn ʿAbdullāh of 7th-century Mecca to be the final prophet from among a long line starting with Adam and including Abraham, Noah, Moses and Jesus. It is a cumulative tradition spanning 14 centuries that Muslims have developed and adapted in diverse ways to varied times, places and contexts. Muslims across time and place refer to a singular universe of meaning: that by submitting to God inwardly, one can attain true peace within oneself, manifest it outwardly in this life, and will find everlasting peace in the hereafter. From this follow the five pillars of Islam, which represent the obligatory external manifestations of faith, the many beliefs comprising a Muslim’s internal faith (Īmān), and teachings related to righteous and moral character (Iḥsān and/or Akhlāq).

Doctors, did you guys ever treat a rape victim? If so it must have been horrible, but here you are supporting a religion/ideology that OKs rape. Of course that is not mentioned, or the fact that the Islamic version of Jesus is not the Jesus of Christianity.

There are over 1.57 billion Muslims in the world, with nearly 7 million in the USA, that can be divided into two main branches: Sunnī and Shīʿīte.10–13 These two groups share beliefs, religious practices and legal structures, but vary on issues related to religious authority and prophetic succession. The majority of Muslims are Sunnī, while between 10 to 20% are Shīʿīte.

Why not mention the fact that the two groups hate, and kill each other? Oh I forgot, the EMJ is only giving us part of the story.

SNIP

Yet, Muslims as a group may suffer from healthcare inequity and inequality for several reasons.

Muslims may have different healthcare-seeking behaviours stemming from Islamic conceptions of disease and cure, and Islamic rulings about permissible therapeutics may contribute to different health outcomes. Furthermore post 9/11 discrimination and abuse may lead to increased psychological distress and mistrust of the healthcare system, which in turn may affect poor health outcomes. Lastly, Muslims may be treated differently due to stereotyping or lack of familiarity with their cultural practices and values. Thus, enhancing the knowledge-base of providers towards Muslim health behaviours and values, will better equip them to serve this population based on nuanced understandings, thereby enhancing patient trust and satisfaction.

Of course the article would not be complete, without playing the Muslim victim card.

Islamic medical ethics and Islamic law

Writing on Islamic medical ethics consists of two dominant genres. The first is Adab; literature which aims to promote virtues and righteous conduct couched within Islamic terms. Ethicolegal writings comprise the second type and aim to expound the legal permissibility of medical interactions, procedures and therapeutics.

The Islamic ethicolegal structure or Sharīʿah, has two dimensions. The first is as a corpus of legal rulings, precedents and statutes, and the second as the moral code of Islam. Since the Sharīʿah is not codified or used by modern states as the single source of law, it is better conceptualised as ‘the collective ethical subconscious’ of the Muslim community. Muslim patients and practitioners alike may refer to the Sharīʿah when discussing therapeutic options, or seek assistance of Islamic legal experts when facing complex moral challenges around healthcare decisions. Similarly Muslim bioethicists may refer to the Sharīʿah when debating ethical constructs.

Right there is the main problem. Sharia does not belong in America.

The Islamic sales pitch continues.

Usūl al-Fiqh and the sources of law

A full discussion on the sources and mechanics of Islamic ethicolegal reasoning is beyond the scope of this paper. A brief overview, however, will aid the reader by introducing the framework for our subsequent discussion. The sources of Islamic fiqh are both material and formal. The former include the Qur’ān, held to be the literally revealed word of God through the angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad, and the Sunnah, which represents the sayings, actions and silent affirmations of the Prophet Muhammad. Since he represents a life lived in accord with the ethicolegal code of Islam, he is both the normative case and the explainer of the code. The Sunnah is accessed through collections of ḥadīth, which are single statements or behaviours of the Prophet. The two formal sources that are agreed upon by the four major schools of law in Sunnī Islam (Hanafī, Shāfiʿī, Mālikī and Hanbalī are ijmā and qiyās. Ijmāʿrefers to consensus agreement about the assessment of an act or practice, while qiyās involves reasoning by analogy.

Of course Dr. Islam does not tells us what else the schools agree upon. Which can be seen HERE.

Gender relations in Islam

The overarching Islamic ethic pertaining to cross-gender interaction is maintaining modesty. The Prophet stated: ‘Every dīn (religion/way of life) has an innate character, the character of Islam is modesty (Muwatta Imam Malik)’ and ‘Īmān (faith) has over 70 branches, and modesty is a branch of Īmān (Sahih Muslim)’.

Dress code

The Qur’ān tells both men and women to ‘lower their gaze and guard their modesty’ and further addresses women to ‘not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms (Al-Nur, 24:30–31).’

Sorry, I have a hard time taking people seriously if they will not look me in the eyes, and not all eye contact with members of the opposite sex is about sex. There is a thing called “respect” in the modern world. Islam is stuck in the past.

Seclusion

Protection of dignity is one of the main objectives of Islamic law. Growing from this objective arise the regulations of khalwah. Khalwah is defined as the situation where a ‘man and a woman are both located in a closed place alone and where sexual intercourse between them can occur’. This situation is prohibited between non-mahram adult members of opposite sexes in order to prevent the accusation, and committal of, illicit relations. This prohibition stems from Prophetic traditions stating that when a non-mahram male and a female are alone ‘Satan’ is the ‘third among them’ and his stating that ‘a man must not remain alone in the company of a woman’ (Sahih al-Bukhari).

Right, because if there is eye contact between members of the opposite sex at a hospital a massive orgy will break out. Get real, this is all about pushing Islam.

Physical contact between the sexes

The Qur’ān exhorts ‘Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)’ (17:32), and thus Islamic law not only prohibits adultery but also strictly regulates physical contact since the verse bars ‘proximity’ to adultery. The general rule is that non-maḥram members of the opposite sex may not have any physical contact in order to block the means to impermissible relations.

Hey Doc, why not tell us what is permissible? Here, I’ll do it for you.

Koran verse 33:50
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Sex slaves…..not too ethical in Western Civilization, huh Doc?

Here is how the medical field is supposed to change to accomodate Islam.

Practice recommendations

As we make our recommendations below it is important to note that these are formed from our own experiences and reflect our opinions. Our focus is on Muslim sensitivities which are variably interpreted and practiced thus cannot be generalised to all Muslim patients. As providers we have to be cautious not to stereotype patients but on the other hand must create the space for patients to relay concerns, preferences and values. Thus for patients who appear to be Muslim one could easily offer the comment ‘I know some people are very anxious about being examined or taken care of by someone who is not of their gender, do you have any concerns you want to share with me?’ This could be followed up by asking ‘Is there anything you want me to do differently or be cautious about during the physical exam?’ These types of questions are significant in that they tell the patient that the provider has some knowledge of cross-gender boundaries, is willing to engage in a discussion about these, and is primarily concerned about the welfare of the patient. Our last caveat is that our recommendations below should not be interpreted as fully developed policy recommendations. There may be other more effective-methods to reach the same goals.

In other words ask the Muslim patients if they do not want to be treated by a kuffar doctor. It is more than OK when a Muslim discriminates against non-Muslims.

Dress code

It is standard practice to ask a patient to change into an examining gown in the hospital and clinic. While this facilitates physical examination, and protects the patient’s clothing from staining, the gown may insult a patient’s sense of modesty. A more limited scope of this practice, in addition to effective communication explaining the need for gowning, is advocated. Alternatively, some hospitals offer patient gowns that are more covering and may allow patients the option to wear their own clothes in the hospital. Such practices may be effective strategies as well. When the patient gown is a necessity, hospital staff could offer to keep the curtains drawn, or the door closed, so that patients could be saved from onlookers. Another effective intervention is a ‘knock, wait, enter’ policy by which staff knock, wait for permission and then enter patient rooms. This would be especially helpful for Muslim women who wear the ḥijāb, as they may feel the need to cover their hair before someone enters the room, and in general benefits others who feel the need for more privacy during hospital stays.

Lastly, it must be stressed that the clinician uncover only that part of the body that needs to be examined, and cover those that are not part of the exam or have been examined already. Paramount here is effectively communicating the need to examine the body before proceeding to do so.

Once again, the Doctor is out to seduce the Muslim patient. I don’t think so. What is next guys, how about the hosptial removes all sign of Christianity? Would that make you happy?

Seclusion

Many patients may feel anxious when in seclusion with the physician for a variety of reasons. This concern is more prominent during internal examinations. Standard practice calls for chaperones when conducting these sensitive examinations. However this practice may not adequately address prohibitions against seclusion within the Islamic and orthodox Jewish faiths. Here one must strike a balance between the need for privacy and the prohibition against seclusion (if patients observe this practice). An ideal situation would be to have a chaperone, preferably of the same gender as the patient, present or in close proximity, who could potentially hear or see what occurs during the patient-provider encounter. Such a potential disrupts seclusion. Simply keeping the door slightly ajar or having a door with a window slit would meet the requirements of Islamic law.

Jews are not on a worldwide movement looking to subjugate everyone under a barbaric set of religious laws, so don’t bring them into your Sharia push. Muslims are, and Islam should not be catered to.

Physical contact

Physical contact outside of the medical examination can be interpreted in different ways subject to cultural norms. A provider holding the hand of a patient who just lost a family member may be viewed as a boundary crossing by some and compassionate by others. Effective communication and paying attention to non-verbal clues may guide clinicians in caring for the patient. Physical contact outside of the examination should always be approached with caution. During the physical exam one can employ innovative strategies that may reduce the trepidation of some patients. Two personal cases are illustrative. In the first case a female Muslim patient who wore the ḥijāb complained about hospital staff repeatedly uncovered her hair to place a thermometer in her ear. This situation could have been easily remedied by using an oral thermometer. In the second a Muslim male became anxious during physical examination by a female provider. By simply donning gloves the provider put the patient at ease.

How about letting the doctor treat the illness, and not Islam? Works for me.

Case resolution

‘Unfortunately there are no female physicians around right now, is there some way I can make you feel more comfortable?’ you ask. The patient tells you that she is a practicing Muslim and feels uncomfortable with a male examining her and disrobing into a gown. After some discussion you both agree on a compromise. You will obtain the history and a female nurse practitioner will perform the physical examination under your direct observation, with you never being in the room alone with the patient. Ultimately the patient is discharged home with crutches, an ankle stirrup air cast and anti-inflammatory medication for her ankle sprain.

Ultimately, this will would be another victory for Islam. Which is another loss for America.

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47 comments for “University of Michigan Health System/ Journal of Med Ethics put out Call for Physicians to Accommodate Islamic Law

  1. November 1, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    The best solution is to not treat them. If they don’t get the message, then tough.

  2. November 1, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Let them return to the islamic contry they came from for medical treatment. Sorry, but this is nothing more than jihad, stealth
    jihad to be exact. One they leave, ban them
    from returning. Ban all future muslim
    immigration and deport those who refuse
    to assimilate into America and adopt to
    OUR culture and laws.

    Indeed, just the beginning of demands to
    cower down to islam. Let them go back to where they came from and be traeted with
    camel piss.

    • Mary
      November 2, 2010 at 3:38 am

      I agree totally and it makes you wonder why on earth our governments are bowing to Islam, pardon the pun.

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      Patriot USA, the US Constitution disagrees with your viewpoints. The US Constitution establishes that anyone born on American soil is an American citizen to be treated equitably. I believe it is the 14th Amendment, not long after the bill of rights.

      How are you a patriot, when you disagree with the very fundamentals of Americanism?

      • admin
        November 2, 2010 at 3:42 pm

        The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and only a fool would let Islam takeover in the name of freedom of religion. The Founding Fathers would not have sat and watched the country fall to Islam.

        Islam is against the very fundamentals of Americanism.

      • Darrell
        November 2, 2010 at 6:48 pm

        Freedom is for people who respect freedom muslims are sorely lacking in this area. Unless of course you are talking about their freedoms then it is another thing entirely.

  3. November 2, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Kick the fuckers back out to their pislamic hellholes. Camel piss is the universal cure in all pislamic countries. Treats everything from flu to cancer. Let them have it their own way. If we don’t stop this nonsense right away it will end with us getting camel piss too.

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:22 pm

      Actually, contact with urine is forbidden to Muslims. It is a religion with many hygenic guidelines, that’s why the black plague only spread in Europe and never to the Mid East.

      • eib
        November 2, 2010 at 1:38 pm

        The vector of the Black Death was a flea.
        I don’t believe that people living in the MME have not been exposed to the plague, and I don’t believe that they haven’t experienced outbreaks of it.
        If they had remained unexposed and unaffected, then as they moved into Europe and elsewhere, they should have had some exposure to it, and as a result, should have suffered.
        Muslims are not God’s elect.
        They might be lucky, but how dare you give us the impression that they’re better than human.

      • Darrell
        November 2, 2010 at 6:49 pm

        Or it could be that the muslims live by and large in a desert rats dont survive well in deserts less rats less fleas.

      • November 2, 2010 at 10:09 pm

        While ordinary urine is one of the unclean things, they love camel urine since it was promoted by Mahound as a cure-all. Consequently, they promote its virtues to their usual absurd level –

        http://madaboutmahound.blogspot.com/2010/10/urine-proves-pislam-is-true-religion.html

  4. TCrump
    November 2, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Ironically, if they insist on being treated under these ridiculous rules….fewer of them will survive……

    • Mary
      November 2, 2010 at 3:38 am

      Actually, fewer of US will survive!

      • eib
        November 2, 2010 at 7:25 am

        That’s the point.
        Because as their numbers increase, they will force these practices on us.
        They won’t care about what works, just about what’s Islamic.

  5. November 2, 2010 at 5:46 am

    According to sharia, if a male sucks on a female’s breasts, that makes him “family” and eliminates a lot of taboo problems.

    • November 2, 2010 at 5:52 am

      Why treat them at all? If allah wills it, they will recover. If allah does NOT will it, they will die, no matter WHAT a doctor does.

      • eib
        November 2, 2010 at 7:23 am

        Excuse me.
        Do you know anything about the development of the germ theory of disease?
        There was a situation in which divine or demonic forces seemed to be at work.
        And over a period of centuries, people found that demonic forces were not at work, that eubacteria were.
        And it didn’t take long to find antibacterial measures that have been challenged in recent years, but for the most part, still work.
        If Muslims choose to practice a Muslim variant of what is called “medicine”, then they should set up their own health care facilities and networks.
        Then they can proceed on their own cultural background and stop oppressing us.

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm

      Stephen, you’re an idiot. And a vulgar one too.

      If a boy is breastfed by a wet nurse, it is forbidden for him to have sex with either her or her children. Seems like a natural conclusion, doesn’t it?

      This is a lot different than “If a male sucks on a females breasts that makes him family and eliminates a lot of taboo problems”

  6. oxnin
    November 2, 2010 at 6:10 am

    I am so frustrated haveing to hear about these cockers; let them all die…OXNIN

  7. Cygnus
    November 2, 2010 at 6:48 am

    Playing devils advocate, I’d love to hear peoples opinions on the fact that many people view America as proof that the ‘multicultural experiment’ has failed and can never work. That its not about skin colour but about cultures that cannot exist side by side. True, Britain is suffering greatly from islamic immigration but it goes further than that. If the USA goes much further down this road there are serious implications for the rest of the West.

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:13 pm

      America as proof that the ‘multicultural experiment’ has failed?

      America is one of the top 30 most equitable nations on Earth.

      America has the highest GDP on Earth, and in the history of the Earth.

      America is top 20 in education.

      America is one of the 20 least corrupt nations on Earth.

      I don’t see how the multicultural experiment has failed. The multicultural experiment has produced the greatest nation in World History.

      The Roman Empire was the other multicultural experiment. They seemed to do alright, until they lost sight of their legal codes.

      • eib
        November 2, 2010 at 1:35 pm

        In the top 20 in education?
        According to whom, while you’re at it.
        I doubt we are in the top 20.
        Perhaps at the bottom of the top 40 is more accurate.

      • admin
        November 2, 2010 at 3:51 pm

        The multicultural experiment across the West in regards to Islam, has failed. Islam does not mix with Western Civilization.

        • eib
          November 2, 2010 at 5:12 pm

          The West has room for Islam, Islam has no room for the West.
          The millennia pass, things stay the same.

        • November 3, 2010 at 12:23 am

          or any other civilization.

      • November 2, 2010 at 4:13 pm

        But that won’t last very long when pislam takes over. I’m I not right, arselifter?

  8. eib
    November 2, 2010 at 7:20 am

    Quote:
    Seclusion: Having a chaperone or leaving a door slightly ajar during internal examinations would meet the requirements of Islamic law.
    end quote.

    And I’m very sure that these strictures don’t apply when the patient is a young CHRISTIAN woman.
    Because after all, they should be raped with impunity in order to “feel themselves subdued.”

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:14 pm

      Why do you feel that Christian women should be raped? Are you from the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

      • eib
        November 2, 2010 at 1:34 pm

        What’s happening in the DRC is the result of political and ethnic conflict. It has nothing to do with the Western conflict with Islam and you know it.

      • admin
        November 2, 2010 at 3:52 pm

        Listen, don’t play games here. He is not for rape, but Islam is. Yet you seem in support of Islam.

        • eib
          November 2, 2010 at 5:10 pm

          Across Europe, wherever Muslims have emigrated and created large Muslim ghettos, the indigenous, Westerners, Christians for the most part, are raped.
          Egyptian Coptic Christian women are routinely raped.
          Assyrian Christian women are raped.
          Wherever there are non-Muslim women in the midst of Muslim communities, there will be rape.
          Muslim history is the Muslim present. Everything that happened in the 8th century is and will be happening again.
          Got your zunnar?
          Prepared to be a slave?

      • Darrell
        November 2, 2010 at 6:51 pm

        No he is stating that muslims feel this way look at the muslim rape gangs in Australia.

  9. refuse2lose
    November 2, 2010 at 8:01 am

    It’s pretty obvious that Michigan is being taken over by muslims. Several Christians have been arrested just for passing out tracts on public property.

    • DavidYarnell
      November 2, 2010 at 12:15 pm

      No they havent. Please provide the police data. Otherwise, you’re a liar.

      • admin
        November 2, 2010 at 3:53 pm

        Christians Arrested for Proselytising near Muslim gathering in USA (Dearborn Michigan)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUwQVqdOT0U

        • eib
          November 2, 2010 at 5:07 pm

          The story of this case is not yet over.
          The city of Dearborn is now the defendant in a civil countersuit in this matter.

      • Darrell
        November 2, 2010 at 6:52 pm

        What davy no witty reply?

  10. eib
    November 2, 2010 at 10:17 am

    Please note: the article calls itself a “reflection” and not a polemic.
    A polemic is what this is.
    There is no reason in it.

  11. Raymond
    November 2, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Like my mother used to say, if he’s sick enough he’ll go to the hospital. It the muzzie patient is in enough pain, he/she’ll undergo whatever is necessary to get rid of the pain. In the meantime, when will hospitals start advertising for chaperones for these modest Muslim women who don’t mind screaming their heads off during a protest but can’t bare an inch of skin to a doctor so he could help her. Give me a break!

    • November 2, 2010 at 10:23 pm

      I was told an interesting fact by an obstetrician friend of mine. When Leb bints go to hospital to deliver babies, they scream their heads off. When most Asian women deliver babies they made hardly a sound. If you’ve seen how big Leb bints are, compared to the majority of Asian women, you couldn’t help but wonder if they’re putting on an act.

      • November 3, 2010 at 12:29 am

        Maybe they’re overcome by grief and shame for having hatched another sand weasel.
        Let these morons die, thereby removing themselves from the gene pool.

        • November 3, 2010 at 1:20 am

          I know I wouldn’t touch them. Not even with gloves on.

  12. Susan
    November 3, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Did you know that Muslims are EXEMPT from paying premiums in Obama’s Health Care Bill?

    Check it out:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

    Apparently, they consider all forms of insurance to be “gambling” which is forbidden in the quran, so they won’t be required to pay Health Care Insurance Premiums! This means, of course, that Americans will be paying for their Health Care (unless the Republicans can manage to kill the Bill). I wonder if they have insurance on their cars or houses? They’d better not get into an accident or have their house burn down! Of course, then they’d go on welfare and again, Americans would pay to support them.

    This is Jizya as well as a subversive way to get Americans to become islamic. No Health Care Premiums if I’m a muslim??? Sign me up!

    Americans – YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THAT MUSLIM PRESIDENT PRONTO!!!

  13. K
    November 7, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    A few of the privacy requests about third persons in a room, seclusion (having our own examination rooms) and being able to request a female physcian are already in place. The part I’m disgusted with is Muslims should be treated by Muslims if available. What about me? How many Muslims have become doctors? There are alot of them, but it would RACIST for me to ask for a non-Muslim. Most of them are also men-I’m sorry I prefer female doctors, they understand more what I go through and I don’t like men I’m not intimate with to be anywhere near my privates.
    If this law passes & I go to a hospital & as stated above-if people appear muslim they are to be asked if they want special treatment-if the doctor about to work on me “appears” muslim, then I will ask if I can have a non-muslim DR. If they refuse, I will sue based on discrimination, then of course that will not work, I will point out this law & say that all people under the laws of this country are to be equally treated. If someone from one religion can request a certain relion for a DR then so can I. Either I would win my case or the law would be thrown out.

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