Questions for the Muslims & Non-Muslim Supporters of Islam That View This Site

Recently there has been numerous Muslims, and their non-Muslim supporters posting here.  I would appreciate if you guys answered the following questions.  I would also like to put the issue of terrorism aside for now.

1. To the Muslims. Why would you even begin to think that non-Muslims would want to live under Sharia Law? If we refuse to live under Sharia Law, what should happen to us?

2. To the non-Muslim supporters of Islam. Are you in support of Islamic Law taking over America? (Because that is what is eventually going to happen, if Islam is not stopped.) If you are not in support of Islamic Law ruling America, why are you supporting Islam? Please think of how the lives of your families future generations, would be under Sharia Law before you answer.

Thank you.

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66 comments for “Questions for the Muslims & Non-Muslim Supporters of Islam That View This Site

  1. ak
    August 12, 2010 at 3:59 pm
  2. michael
    August 12, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Before we accept them as even ‘visitors’ to this country,… can anyone name ONE country they are at peace with ?

    Also,… are they claiming that ‘if’ we (hope) and change into sharia law that they will BECOME a peaceful nation ? I doubt it.

    The terrorists have threatened that we will be overrun from the inside. Back in 2005-2007 they warned us that they would have a muslim in office by 2008. They were right.

    Wake up America.

  3. Darrell
    August 12, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    They can never convince me that PiSlam is the right way. I will never submit better to die on your feet than live life on your knees.

  4. Mr B
    August 12, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Islam can never be at peace with any country, Islam is a political religion which seeks total control of the instrument of governance. It seeks the establishment of a theocratic state where the imams will dominate and translate to the ruling elite. The religion has an aversion for peace and it is the desire of Islamists to impose their ways of life on non-Muslims while the rights of a Muslim in a state governed by Sharia law supersede the basic fundamental human rights of other citizens. A view of life under modern Islamic states such as Iran, Saudi and Northern Nigeria shows that Islam isn’t what it claimed to be. Their idea is for Muslims to be the most powerful people in the world and Islam will serve as a creed to bring them together to achieve their aims. Bringing United States to their fold had been their goal and this is what they have been gradually achieving through the election of Sheikh Barack Obama. Islamists are smart and cunning and they will do anything to achieve political power in America because that is the only way the can bring America down to the rule of Islam.

    • admin
      August 12, 2010 at 9:51 pm

      Well said, and welcome to the site Mr. B.

    • Damien
      August 12, 2010 at 11:13 pm

      Mr B.

      I don’t think Obama is a Muslim. But he clearly is acting like a useful idiot dhimmi.

      • copout
        August 13, 2010 at 6:35 pm

        DAMIEN, do your homework otrauma is a muslim, brother don’t be deceived!

        • Damien
          August 13, 2010 at 7:37 pm

          Copout,

          I’m not a supporter of Obama, anyway, and I have heard many people argue that he is secretly a Muslim. He doesn’t call himself one, and if he is, he is doing a very good job of hiding it. However, no one has been able to convince me of that.

          • Grace56
            August 14, 2010 at 8:38 am

            Obama isn’t a practicing Muslim but I would say he is a cultural Muslim

      • Bobbi
        August 14, 2010 at 8:19 am

        He is a stealth jihadist, and speaks taqqiya, which is lying. this is an accepted form of conquering from within. He is most certainly a Muslim.

    • ronald
      August 15, 2010 at 11:03 am

      really?I dont see Malaysia or Tunisia warring with anyone.

  5. Damien
    August 12, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Admin,

    Here’s a third question for both Muslims and supporters of Islam. I thought of it, largely because I’m into the skeptical movement, but it could be a follow up to the first two.

    3. Can you debunk any of the claims made on this site? If we are wrong about the desires of a large number of Muslims around the world, and the history and goals of Islam as set forth by Muhammad himself and countless later Muslims, What are you able to show us to disprove any of it? If we have it all wrong, you ought to be able to Polk at least some of the things written here, and on other sites like Jihad Watch with holes big enough to drive a truck through.

    • admin
      August 12, 2010 at 11:24 pm

      Apparently they cannot refute our statements, that is why they resort to calling us “bigots” and “racists”, in an attempt to get us to stop speaking the truth about Islam.

      Lets see if we get any answers at all….:)

      • Damien
        August 12, 2010 at 11:28 pm

        Admin,

        That’s exactly what I suspect and the irony is if we really were just a bunch of bigots, than they ought to be able to easily do just that.

        • admin
          August 12, 2010 at 11:31 pm

          If we are bigots, than so were the Jews for opposing Nazism.

          Funny, how the non-Muslim supporters of Islam, do not say a thing about the bigotry that stems from Islam.

          005.051
          YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

        • admin
          August 12, 2010 at 11:33 pm

          I just came across a 16 point plan, on how they are trying to use the term “islamophobia” to silence us. I will post it within the next day.

          • Gailie
            August 13, 2010 at 8:25 am

            I wanna see that.

          • Stand Up USA
            August 13, 2010 at 12:55 pm

            It’s not Islamophobia if there really are Radical Muslims who follow what the Qur’an clearly states and therefore want to kill all non-believers.

            It can’t possibly be racism because Muslims are NOT a race, that’s the name of a group of people who follow Islam. Just as Christians are NOT a race, that’s the name of a group who follow Christianity.

            Regarding the bigotry claim: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

            Well, I think the Muslims that want to so badly build this Mosque 600 ft from Ground Zero instead of simply honoring our (65% of NYers) wishes by building it much further away are bigots!!
            I am not normally a bigot but in this case I am because I am intolerant to the belief of spreading hate, violence and death via religion and stating their (Radical Muslims) God tells them to kill anyone who does not think/live the same exact way as they do.

            I’ll acceopt being called a bigot as opposed to being a supporter of this barabaric politicial ideology.

  6. Languille Lady
    August 13, 2010 at 6:33 am

    I am strongly in favor of deporting all Muslims except perhaps those who would take a vow to support the US constitution over Sharia (ha!). It is not, and never has been, a religion of peace. They all need to go back where they, or their families, came from if they don’t like it here!

    • Buck
      August 13, 2010 at 8:10 am

      You mean like the Major that shot fellow soldier? That kind of pledge?

    • Stand Up USA
      August 13, 2010 at 12:56 pm

      It’s a fact that anywhere these Radical Muslims have went, they have destroyed the way of life in that land.

      • Grace56
        August 14, 2010 at 8:40 am

        FYI there is no such thing as “Radical Muslims” There is only Islam and the Muslim who is killing the non-believer is dong what is commanded of him by his God.

    • Andrea
      August 16, 2010 at 2:49 pm

      I agree! Deport Now!! (..and be sure that Barrack Obama is the first one out!)

  7. Mike Townsend
    August 13, 2010 at 6:56 am

    Still no answers to question number one? Where are all those moderate Muslims? No surprise, self-professed “moderate” Muslims tend to be silent even when “radical” Muslims commit acts of terrorism against innocent people. I think Turkey’s PM Ergodan summed it up for us all. “The Term ‘Moderate Islam’ Is Ugly And Offensive; There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam”

    • Riffai
      August 15, 2010 at 10:52 am

      I am a Muslim – and to answer your questions. 1) I am not interested in Sharia being the law of the land. I believe the Constitution provides for most of the laws we need to govern with.
      Most of the Muslims in the country are not even interested in Shariah either; at least the ones I know. We are too busy with jobs, family and school and achieving the American dream.

      So Logan or whoever you are, I hope that answers your question.

      • admin
        August 15, 2010 at 10:58 am

        That did not answer the question, and you do not speak for most Muslims.

      • admin
        August 15, 2010 at 11:31 am

        Since you are also posting under the name “Ronald”, why should anyone believe you?

        • Riffai
          August 16, 2010 at 12:41 pm

          I dont speak for most Muslims? okay then its up to you what you want to believe. I believe I do speak for most of Muslims – and then again what what was the question?

          okay to your question of what would happen to non muslims if somehow ? i dont think anything would happen.. I have never lived under Sharia law.. Most muslims reject it because they see it as too strict .. the way Saudis practise it.

          http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703382304575431400969083186.html

          • admin
            August 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm

            Once again, you do not speak for the Islamic community. There is a Sharia movement happening across the West, and there is no major Muslim group taking a stand against it. I see Turkey has done a little PR work, meanwhile their true face is one of an Islamist.

          • admin
            August 16, 2010 at 3:22 pm

            Bosnian Serb leader condemns Turkey’s activities in Bosnia

            Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik accused Turkey on Monday of interfering in Bosnia’s internal political affairs and Ankara of acting in favor of Bosnian Muslims.

            “We resent the fact that Turkey wants a unified and centralized Bosnia, favoring only one of the peoples” living in the country, Dodik told Bosnian state radio from Israel, following talks with Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

            http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=bosnian-serb-leader-condemns-turkeys-activities-in-bosnia-2010-08-16

  8. Dave Lawson
    August 13, 2010 at 10:14 am

    I play a lot of online games on my PC, and have used the name “Islamophobe” for a couple of years. . .

    You would not believe the ignorance of the average person, I have been asked to change my name on various servers a hell of a lot, because it is deemed to be racist. When I reply that I am not racist, and that Islam is a neo-political religious ideology, 99% of server admins have no clue what I am talking about, half of them insist on me changing my name regardless, the other half just stop asking because they are confused . . .

    In my mind, the biggest battle that needs to be fought, is to ensure that the average Joe knows that being anti-islam and all the sharia baggage that goes with it, is not racism in any shape or form. Only then will support for the anti Islam movement grow in the general population. . .

    Thanks for a great site, appreciated here in the UK. . .

    • raj
      August 13, 2010 at 11:45 am

      This reminds us the Ayn Rand quote.

      ‘The greatest threat to mankind and civilization is the spread of the totalitarian philosophy. Its best ally is not the devotion of its followers but the confusion of its enemies. To fight it, we must understand it.’

    • Stand Up USA
      August 13, 2010 at 1:02 pm

      As I said in an earlier post here, Muslims and/or Islam is NOT a race. But let’s just say for arguement sake it was…just to play devils advocate…

      We, those who do not want to live under Sharia Law, are still NOT racists because it’s not Muslims that we hate…it’s their political ideology!!

      Because there are American Muslims here that love our country and follow their faith but do not prescribe to the evil verses in the Qur’an. Although it does make me ask, why would anyone associate themselves with any religion that has any verses in their book (when there is only 1 Qur’an) that advocates hate, violence and death???

      • Riffai
        August 15, 2010 at 10:56 am

        Because those verses are taken out of context. The terrorists are just interested in a power grab – wherever they are from. Power is what fuels them.

        • admin
          August 15, 2010 at 11:01 am

          Sorry, that is not going to cut it here. Islam breeds terrorism, and Mohammad himself was a terrorist.

          Islam 101: The Religion of War

          http://loganswarning.com/2009/12/13/islam-101-the-religion-of-war/

          Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
          Narrated Abu Huraira:

          Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

        • admin
          August 15, 2010 at 11:30 am

          I see, Riffai thinks he or she is slick and is posting under two different names. “Ronald” is the same person.

    • Andrea
      August 16, 2010 at 2:43 pm

      You are soooo right! It boggles my mind how ignorant most people are of Islam/Sharia, yet how quick they are to consider me racist and intolerant. I am also boggled by how adamant these same people are about not wanting to open their mind and truly investigate Islam. How adamant they are to say that I am wrong and mis-informed. It is serious denial on their part. It is nothing short of sickening to me.

  9. Iordana
    August 13, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    I found this comment on Care2 website

    http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/gop-lawmaker-thinks-islam-is-a-cult/

    “Do you respect the Death penalty for apostasy too?”
    No, in fact I don’t respect the Death penalty for anything. But I do respect the right of sovereign nations to implement whatever legal system they see fit, regardless of whether or not I respect that legal system itself. I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Dawkins, and agree with him on many, many issues; but in those debates, I think his interlocutor was correct in saying “How is that related to the UK?” And similarly, I say “How is that related to the US?”

    “You will understand.”
    I hope YOU will understand that US founding fathers were not stupid. They had escaped theocracy in England and were determined not to let it happen in the US, and put an enormous amount of work and effort into ensuring that the constitution prevents it. And it does.”’

    ”’

  10. Iordana
    August 13, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    The guy above upsets me. He sincerely sees America as invincible and immune to islam.

    What will be the best answer to him? I’m afraid there’s none. And that’s the oppinion of majority.

  11. Koala Bear
    August 13, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    To the non-muslim supporters of islam – do you see why the crusades happened? They happened for the same reason and see how that ended for islam? We are headed the same way and this time it won’t be pretty due to the current standard of ammunition. With nutters like metaldinnerjacket it will be nuclear – time out, everyone gone.

  12. When*Pigs*Fly
    August 13, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    The only way to stop izlam is to remove each & every proponent of it from the country. Izlam is so infectious & invasive it needs to be totally eradicated like the cancer that it is, so I ‘m not even sure if ex-muzlims should remain, the risk is too great.

  13. Ron
    August 13, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    The point needs to keep being made that islam is NOT a religion at all. It is a violent totalitarian political ideology that HIDES behind the banner of religion. Criminy! History repeats itself! And they have 1400 of “history” to look at. What burns me up is hearing these talking heads talking about the fringe element that hijacks “peaceful” islam. CRAP! The extremists are following islam TO THE LETTER! Wake up people. They populate 4 to 1. It’s just a matter of time.

  14. Ron
    August 13, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    One more thing; 750 “no go” zones in England and France. Those are areas where neither non muslims OR police will enter. It’s at that point we concede to let them rule themselves by sharia in exchange for them remaining “peaceful”, at least for the time being. Do the math.

    • August 13, 2010 at 10:28 pm

      The most scary thing is that they could very well practice their barbaric punishment with us never knowing about it. A stoned to death woman would be written off as an accident and the same with the thief who gets his hands cut off.

      • Damien
        August 14, 2010 at 12:12 am

        Robin Shadowes,

        If it happens enough times through, it would be pretty hard to just write off as an accident. I mean wouldn’t you think it was odd, if suddenly you found out there were a bunch of women in your area who had “accidentally” gotten killed by stones falling on them, wouldn’t you be suspicious, even if you knew next to nothing about Islam or Sharia? Also you’d find it strange if people started loosing arms left and right, especially given the fact that at least some of them would tell the authorities what actually happened, regardless of any threats of further harm.

        • August 14, 2010 at 12:21 am

          In Europe, they have a lot of balcony accidents. In the US, women seem to get run over by cars driven by arselifters.

          • Damien
            August 14, 2010 at 9:04 am

            Gary Rumain,

            Maybe. But aren’t there ever any investigations into those? I mean, if you wanted to, you could murder somebody by throwing them a balcony or deliberately running over them with your car.

          • August 15, 2010 at 8:43 am

            Yes, some have been investigated but a lot get passed off as accidents.

            In Europe, the younger males in the family confess if it comes to it, as they get lighter sentences if they are under age. Arselifters quickly learn all the scams and exploit them to the hilt.

  15. Jake
    August 14, 2010 at 9:06 am

    I am a non-Muslim born in an Islamic country. I would like to express my opinion and concerns in Islam, if you all don’t mind.

    I want to confess that I was supposed to be a Muslim during my upbringing. My childhood was never a good or a happy one because of that. I was converted by peer persuasion at the age of 7. By the age of 13, I picked up the Bible and decided to accept Christ, at the same time keeping it a secret from my family, who are neither Muslim nor Christian.

    As I grow older, I receive more news on such religions around the world. From how I was taught, I believed that Muslims and Christians are not religion, but destined races. Christians are always blond, Muslims must be circumcised, etc..Now that I realize I was living a stupid miserable racist lie from childhood, I will regret looking at my upbringing as nothing but lies and child’s misconceptions.

    As the Internet explains religion, so does Christianity. Due to the many angles of Christ, the religion today is rather not united anymore. To solve what I believe, I just stick to the fundamental – Christ came to save us all, and there’s nothing I would lose if I accept Him. He might be real, might be fake, but it’s worth a try.

    A born Muslim friend of mine did admit his people were nothing but mother fuckers. They forced him to study Arab and not English, believing that English is for Christians. They bar him from doing visual art, for visual art is associated with Christian Renaissance. It is very chaotic here. And the worst part is we are not allowed to express our criticisms on Islam and its followers. After meeting me and a few of my peers, he understood and is aware of what this so-called Islam is – a media to create child trauma.

    Please understand us – we are innocent middle-class civilians who are seeking a life we desire best for our interests, not based on a made concept that we must obey and let it rule. It’s a LIE! If your children accepted Islam behind your backs I swear you will never live without guilt!
    Thank you

    • admin
      August 14, 2010 at 12:05 pm

      Welcome to the site Jake, and I truly appreciate your post. I speak to many Muslims and while it is obvious a good portion of them are lying about their religion, it is also obvious that the others have no clue what is going on in the world, or its past history. They are living in a world of lies, that have been fed to them.

      Stay strong!

  16. Sally Forth
    August 14, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Islam: What the West Needs to Know. A great intelligent video for anyone wishing to learn the disturbing truth about Islam. It’s a long one–98 minutes, but well worth the time!! See it at:
    therightscoop.com

  17. August 15, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Well Christopher as to the second part of your question re: non Muslim thinking about it, the vast majority come from the left or extreme right. How said they were capable of thinking? J.C.

  18. Fawad Tanveer butt
    October 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Well i am from Pakistan(a terrorist state as many of you think). first of all i am a Muslim. Well to answer your questions i will answer them one by one

    1. every Muslim lives by a law called the sharia law because these are the basic laws given by god and mentioned in our holly book.(upto my knowledge your church has also some basic rules and the jews have there 10 commandments they live life on basis of it) Sharia law is only implemented only where there are majority of people are Muslims not in countries like america and EU nations where Muslims are minority. so if state is a Muslim majority then other non-Muslims have to live under sharia because majority is in favor of it. its the same rule in democracy if i am right.

    2. no body is forcing Islam on america its just like same policy as Christian church policy to convert the as many people to their religion and then when you have majority claim the governance. so should churches be stopped from preaching if like Islam is to be stopped.

    3.Every religion has spread through sword, Islam is not different than others and to other questions i will say that jihad is not what al-qaida do its detail i cant post here in detail. In short

    In jihad killing of innocent lives is forbidden (not to kill innocent women and childern)

    jihad could only be done under Islamic state provision

    more than 7 rules (not to burn houses, not to burn fields)including above two to conduct jihad

    jihad is compulsory in many cases

    to spread Allah message(offensive)

    to defend Islamic state(defensive) etc

    now to explain you that quran verses individually can’t be taken for justifying something its interpretation depends on when it was revealed under what circumstances.

    I hate america not because american people are Christians or its a free society like your media presents i hate america because of the double standard policy you are on.

    Just now answer some of my questions

    1. why there are american forces doing in other countries (not talking about Afghanistan and Iraq)

    2. why america thinks has double standards on issues depending on racism. etc why the blood of Palestine child and Israel child are not of same value to america.

    3. Why america thinks that democracy is the only solution to governance and it must be imposed on every nation of the world whether they want it or not.

    etc there are many things to ask but i leave the discussion here.

    I am from different culture first time posted on any website so if you find my language difficult to understand apologies. Also my view is just a view Islam does not forbids of expressing views as someone mentioned above in some comments.

    • admin
      October 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm

      1. Muslims are trying to implement Sharia in the West and they do not have to be anywhere near the majority to change a country to suit Islam.
      2. Muslims are using the freedoms of America to force to the country to adapt to Islam, and Christians are not on some major movement to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all. You also do not dictate what we speak out against.
      3. Other religions are not on worldwide jihads, so how about we stick to today?
      4. Mohammad himself said that it is OK to kill women and children in night raids.

      Book 019, Number 4321:
      It is reported on the authority of Sa’b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.

      Of course you do not define what “innocent” means. Ever hear of “spreading mischief”?

      Jihad can be performed anywhere, even hear of the word ummah?

      I don’t need to you explain the Koran to me, and Koran itself states that the actions of Mohammad the terrorist, lying, rapist are to be followed for all times.

      I don’t really care what you think of me or my country.

      1. I am not going to go down a country by country list of why US troops are there. Many of them want them there.

      2. It is called taking a side with an ally. My country should not defend any Islamic country.

      3. My government thought that by bringing in democracy freedom would spread. It did not, the plan has failed.

      There is not much to discuss. I stand against Islam, want to end all Muslim immigration, and aid to Islamic countries. Including yours.

    • admin
      October 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm

      “Islam does not forbids of expressing views as someone mentioned above in some comments.’

      I guess you never heard of the blasphemy laws of your country, and the limits that Islam puts on free speech.

    • admin
      October 2, 2010 at 5:32 pm

      “more than 7 rules (not to burn houses, not to burn fields)including above two to conduct jihad”

      You are wrong here.

      From the Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law

      Justice Chapter: Jihad

      o9.15 It is permissible in jihad to cut down the enemy’s trees and destroy their dwellings.

      Book 019, Number 4325:
      It is narrated on the authority of Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) caused the date-palms of Banu Nadir to be cut down and burnt. It is in this connection that Hassan (the poet) said:

      It was easy for the nobles of Quraish to barn Buwaira whose sparks were flying in all directions.

      in the same connection was revealed the Qur’anic verse:” Whatever trees you have cut down or left standing on their trunks.”

  19. Fawad Tanveer butt
    October 3, 2010 at 2:09 am

    just want to clarify some points

    if somebody is trying to implement sharia without having majority in your or west its wrong it could be his personal liking its not that Islam orders him to do.

    no body can force on someone to accept some religion it may be that he is trying to convey to others what he thinks is right.

    well in past every religion has been spread through force and if u are speaking of now is america not spreading/forcing his capitalist and democratic ideas to other nations.

    i could qoute to you many hadis etc that prohibits killing of childern and women. i dont know what islam you are talking about. this hadis you mentioned have to be checked because its not valid one as its against the very common rule of jihad

    well i quran and is not something you read and interpret what is written is true according to you your understandings i dont know in what mood you were reading every verse of quran has its own background untill u know that background like in quran is written as someone mentioned above

    “wherever you find a kafir kill him” surah al-toba chapter 9 verse 5

    it does not mean what apparently it says if you read the whole chapter its about the peace treaty between the quraish and muhammad(madina people) and this treaty was broken by quraish so muslims gave 4 month time to come back to treaty otherwise it is ordered to muslims to kill all kafirs of quraish in battle if they dont respect the treaty.

    i dont want to go in detail of every verse to waste ur time. any way

    its only the governments of that countries that want your forces there not the people even your military knows the fact

    well if you are taking the side which favors you (Israel)we should take the side which favors us (Palestine)

    who said democracy is not the only way to spread freedom of speech if its so why america don’t work on bringing democracy in Arab countries (only because kings there are in america pocket)and why every time there is military government in Pakistan the america support it.

    well its your right to ban any nationality for immigration and you have the right to stop aid. its our leaders who live by your aid not the people. if you ask any state people on america state aid he will tell u what people think about your aid

    i dont know when you say freedom of speech what you want to say i see no restriction on freedom of speech in islam but off course there are some limits in some cases if you seeing iran as an islamic state or arab to tell you truth they are far from islamic.

    to last post

    Muhammad (PBUH) said when he recommended the fighters :
    “I advise you ten things| Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.” – Bukhari Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 257.

    this incident you are mentioning

    jews of Banu al Nadir attempted 2 times before to kill the Messenger

    after last attempt he attacked on them the question why he burnned the main reason which is apparent

    1. these forms are used to earn money later to be used on complains against Muslims in war to buy war equipment

    i would say i could also give you many places in bible where fighting is provoked

    ” Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood ” – Jer:48:10 .

    ” Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up ” – Hos:13:16 .

    ” And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword ” – Jos:6:21 , the only book that allows killing women , children , old people and animals , even the worshpers of stones and the sun .. etc , didn’t do this .

    ” And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city ” – Ez:9:7 .

    ” Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house ” – Ez:9:6 .

    ” And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless ” – Ex:22:24 .

    Do not spare them, put to death men, women and children and infants, cattle and sheep, camles and donkeys ( Bible 1 samuel 15:3)

    Think not that i cam to send peace on earth, i came not to send peace, but a swords (Bible , Matthew 10:34)

    I have come to set the world on fire, and i wish it were already burning (Bible, luke 12:49)

    • admin
      October 3, 2010 at 3:34 am

      I just want to clarify some points.

      Islam orders Muslims to spread the religion.

      Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
      Narrated Anas bin Malik:

      Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

      Was Mohammad the majority when he tried to spread Islam? Obviously not, so please do not come here and try and con me.

      Then you should have checked, it is from the Muslim adhadith, so it is valid.

      :The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa’l-Siyar)”

      http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/019.smt.html

      Prove that Iran and SA are not Islamic. Don’t come here, make baseless statements and expect people to believe you.

      I did not say Muslims were forcing people to convert, I said they are changing the country to suit Islam. They force their way by using the freedoms of America against America.

      Unless you can prove my articles that use Koran verses wrong, do not bother telling me I do not understand the meaning of them. I didn’t ask you about 9: 5 and others say the opposite, that Muslims broke the treaty. But either way you might want to come into the world of today.

      If you do not know about your blasphemy laws, do some research. The Bible is made up of stories of those times, while the Koran states the actions of Mohammad the terrorist, rapist, are too be followed for all times.

      I already told you I do not care what you think of me, or my country. I am sure that the people of Pakistan hate this aid….

      Pakistan: US sends 50,000 Halal meals for flood victims

      http://halalfocus.net/2010/08/02/pakistan-us-sends-50000-halal-meals-for-flood-victims/

      I will save you some time, no matter what the US does overseas I will not accept Islam. Do I make myself clear?

      http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/019.smt.html

    • admin
      October 3, 2010 at 3:39 am

      No limits on free speech in your country?

      Pakistan: Muslims Take to the Streets Against Facebook~ Videos

      http://loganswarning.com/2010/05/21/pakistan-muslims-take-to-the-streets-against-facebook-videos/

      No limits on freedom of expression?

      Pakistan: Christian Gets Life for “Desecrating” Koran

      http://loganswarning.com/2010/03/05/pakistan-christian-gets-life-for-desecrating-koran/

      Your country has also built up their military because of US aid.

  20. Fawad Tanveer butt
    October 3, 2010 at 8:06 am

    First of all i did not came here to on this forum to bother you or to convince you to accept Islam. Neither i want to impose my ideas on you or your viewers.

    I just came across your website by chance and what i am doing here is to clarify to you that what you interpret or think about Islam is not the right idea.

    As you have the right to express your views against anyone i have the same right to practice.

    All states who say they are Islamic only their name is Islamic like iran and saudia Arabia only because they have majority of Muslims does not mean that they are islamic states. why because in islam if you know what khalafa means then you will know that kingship as in Saudi is against Islamic laws and Iran with so called its revolution has many laws which are not according to sunna.

    if you say your community is for non-Muslims only ok then i will not come to comments on your website.

    Now about the above 2 incidents you mentioned yes we have freedom but with freedom comes the responsibility and i will condemn all those who do actions to insult any religion holly book or any religion prophet whether its quran, bible, Muhammad, Christ or moses.

    you have build our army but only for your advantages first to defeat Russia then to defeat Taliban.

    spreading religion is not a crime until no force is involved in it.

    Anyway i leave it to you whatever you want to say as its your website and i will say just this that when a person thinks he knows all about the things of the world and no other can tell him nothing more this is the stage when discussion has no meanings. the person who thinks he know all things is the real ignorant. i am not that kind of Muslim you think i just wanted to share my views only.

    • admin
      October 3, 2010 at 11:29 am

      Like I said earlier, I will put an end to this circular conversation. Either point out what I “misinterpreted” on your next comment, or you will be banned.

      http://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/

      Just because they have a king does not mean that they do not follow other Islamic laws, and the Iranian revolution does not mean the govt there does not follow Islam.

      I see, Pakistan must have built up their army for the advantage of other countries. You really need to get a new talking point there.

      Point out where I said that spreading a religion is against the law. You cannot, I said Muslims are using the freedoms (laws) of America to advance Islam. Try and pay attention next time.

      I never said I know all things, I just countered some of your statements.

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  22. meli
    January 23, 2011 at 1:16 am

    @admin…i wont mention if im a muslim or a non muslim supporter bec im gunna speak from logic and without prejudices

    look around in ur (and my) society, young children being molested which usually dont end there, those molested sometimes grow to be molestors( no offense to anyone out there who has had that happen) if they dont grow into that they usually have pschological problems which affect or ruin thier lives

    women being raped…taking the privilage of the freedom to feel safe

    thieves stealing ones possesions which that person worked hard for

    murders, ruining the lives of the families left behind

    drink drivers risking lives of others,and in some case taking the lives of others

    STD’s affecting the lives of many due to fornication

    marriages being broken and more lives being destroyed, women raising children on thier own as marriage break down ultimately, in some cases leading to all the above i just mentioned

    its a crime fest…..sharia law or any law that prohibits these thigs can only make the world a better place…..the penal system fails us, most who go to jail only come out to reoffend

    u said think of how the lives of your families future generations, would be under Sharia Law before you answer

    perhaps u should think the same if it isnt bec the alternative (the failing penal system ) is leading our generations to come down a much uglier path anyways

    peace to all

    • admin
      January 23, 2011 at 8:17 am

      Right, you are not a Muslim. You just want Sharia Law. You have tricked me right off the bat…..

      You are the last person who should bring up the word “logic”

      1. Islam allows pedophilia. So do not act like you as so concerned with children.
      2. Under Islam a wife HAS to have sex whenever her husband wants to. Islam also allows the taking of sex slaves. That is rape.
      3. I know, no one steals, murders, or drinks in the Islamic world. I guess there are no STDs going around either. Seriously, stick to reality.
      4. I am sure that having multiple wives is just so healthy for all the women involved…
      5. Perhaps you should find another site, because nothing you say will change my mind. I have no interest in what you call “peace”.

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