Occasionally I like to point out the mind of the average Muslim. To do so, I bring up a subject that many do not like to speak about. But to me it is something than cannot be swept under the rug, as it destroys lives. Islamic based child marriages.
Islam’s so called prophet Mohammad married a child, and according to the Koran he is of “exalted character”.
Koran Verse 068.004
YUSUFALI: And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character.
In turn, NO Muslim will condemn him, or any aspect of Islam. Here is another example of this cult mentality.
SICKO Muslim comments of the day, after I asked him to condemn Islam for child marriage. (Most likely from the UK)
Dr Smith @AFazalgul · 1h
@LogansWarning @MoAnsar if someone wants to marry a young person then it is between them…u dont have to follow itDr Smith @AFazalgul · 15m
@LogansWarning as long as the child reaches puberty, they can marry…trust me as a medical doctor I am aware of thisDr Smith @AFazalgul · 4m
@LogansWarning as long as there is consent..respect between the two….who are you and me to decide and get on our high horse??
The proof: (Click on images to enlarge)
No Doc, I cannot stomach child marriage, unlike you some of us have morals!
Islam is a mental disease.
Not hard to believe Muslims believe this. But here’s even further hypocrisy of Islam….
They say it’s ok to marry a child as long as they give their consent. Well as we all know women have very little rights in the Muslim world. In fact a wife is the property of the man. That’s why there’s no such thing as a man raping his wife in Islam. If he wants sex he can take it without his wife’s consent.
But yet they want us to believe they would give an 8 yr old the ability to consent or not? First of all who would think an 8 yr old has the ability to understand what they are even consenting to. Second, are we to believe they would honor the 8yr olds wishes if she chose not to consent?
How many 8 yr old do you think would consent to being given away to some creepy perverted old man they may or may not have ever met! Every 8 yr old I know would have to be ripped away from their parents screaming and crying, let’s be honest.
How many contradictions and hypocrisies can there be before even a Muslim can’t stomach it anymore?
Thanks for honestly spelling it out!
I will not curse,I will not insult anyone or any religion/belief,and I will make this as brief as possible.
You interpret the Quran in a wrong way for many reasons:
a) when its translated,many of its meanings are misunderstood and meanings change drastically
b) you WANT Islam to be presented in an awful way so you TRY your best to accomplish your goal
c) the verses posted are not complete,and not justified by previous verses which shows Islam as a religion of hate and violence
d) personally I think that you need a Muslim believer to interpret Islam to you in a way that you would understand(not that I am decreasing your intelligence or understanding but I’m sure you would understand what I mean)
e) finally,Islam isn’t the religion or the ‘devil’ or ‘terrorists,’ these pigs who bombed the towers in 9/11 and everyone else who defies human rights are aliens to our faith and are just labeled as Muslims just like there is so called Christians who are terrorists,these aren’t Christians as well
P.S: One wouldn’t be considered a Muslim without believing in Jesus,Moses,Christianity,and Judaism,
I hope this clears up some of your views
Have a good day
1. Islam insults non-Muslims. You are part of that.
2. Prove I am misinterpreting it. Then remember the translations are done by experts.
3. The Koran is what presents it in an awful way.
4. The verses are full verses. How about you stop wasting time, and PROVE just ONE of your points?
5. ANYONE can become a Muslim. But I go on the works of scholars.
6. Mohammad said he was made victorious through terror. (Sahih Bukhari).
7. Muslims believe Jesus will come back and destroy Christianity. (Break the cross). Why did you fail to mention that?
8. As I stated earlier, you have not proven a thing. Just the usual failed empty talking points.
You shouldn’t judge individuals by a group of people, what do you call what happened to the Palestinians(Muslims and Christians and Jews) in 1948 and all the massacres that occur by Christians, I for one don’t name those people Christians because no God, no religion would preach for that, so people who do that are just plain evil for me and shouldn’t be considered a Christian. Same for Muslims, “Muslim terrorists” are in fact not Muslims and a guy in a strip club could know more about Islam than him, Read this carefully http://whyislam.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/10-reasons-why-islam-is-the-religion-of-truth/
and this article as well http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/11/islam-converts-british-women-prejudice
Also look at this and it will prove to everyone out there how Islam is a well rounded religions that ENCOURAGES thinking and learning and a religion where education is a MUST for every capable person.
Look at the Church during the Middle Ages, the amount of corruption and Popes who would EXCOMMUNICATE a man for just ‘challenging the church’ by saying the earth is not flat, thats what happens. Also why is it then when something bad happens in the US and it’s a ‘Muslim’ its all about how horrible Muslims are and the news sticks around forever but when its a Christian its ‘a mistake’ and no one ever remembers it?”34,000 Americans have converted to Islam following the events of September 11, and this is the highest rate reached in the U.S. since Islam arrived there.” http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html
Regarding your previous points, 1.You can’t make me a part of all Muslims around the world, you don’t know my believes or what’s inside my head and heart,you can only judge me based on something I said. So since you’re Christian, you’re one of the people who did all the killing in Palestine, right? And killed hundreds of thousands of PEOPLE; women and children and old people, am I right? And because you’re American, you dropped the bombs on the Japanese and cause deaths and dysfunctions for newborns until now , correct?
2. Yes they are full verses, but have you continued the story by the other verses? Example to prove my point: Look at 2: 191, full verse right? If I would read it like that I would say that the Quran encourages to kill non believers but you need to look at 2:190 FIRST to COMPREHEND that it said to fight them if the INITIALLY start the war, and checking the HISTORICAL FACTS for that time, you’ll see that there was a peace treaty between Quraish and Muslims and furthermore details that I’ll not get into but you can read furthermore about it here http://www.onislam.net/english/reading-islam/research-studies/comparative-religion/461183-quranic-verses-misinterpreted-as-teaching-violence.html we see that this replies to the Muslim’s concers to what if Quraish wouldn’t let them preform Hajj.
3. Yes anyone can SAY that they’re a Muslim but whether they truly LIVE by is something YOU will never know no matter how hard you try because its something between that person and God.
4. Muhamed (PBUH) would INFORM the area they were planning to attack 6 days earlier and give them a chance to either surrender, or convert(it was never forced, and if they disagree, the would enter the area but they Muslims were told by Muhammed to not CUT DOWN A TREE, or kill a women,a child, and old man, or even a non believer, non believers were allowed to stay there but pay a small amount of money(just like taxes) to contribute to the society( Muslims payed even a larger amount of money in form of Zakkah and Sadaqah) Anyway, it is the same in any religion. You can also find violent texts in the Bible, even in the New Testament. Just look at Matthew 10: 34-36:
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
You have to see everything in its context! If you take passages from the Bible out of context you will get the same result as the Quran and the Hadith. Also this is the FULL context of the Hadith you are referring to “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Also “Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Surah9:5)
First let’s put the verse in its original context, the Holy Quran says:
“Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allah and His Messenger to those of the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), with whom you made a treaty. So travel freely (O Mushrikun – see V.2:105) for four months (as you will) throughout the land, but know that you cannot escape (from the Punishment of) Allah, and Allah will disgrace the disbelievers. And a declaration from Allah and His Messenger to mankind on the greatest day (the 10th of Dhul-Hijjah – the 12th month of Islamic calendar) that Allah is free from (all) obligations to the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) and so is His Messenger. So if you (Mushrikun) repent, it is better for you, but if you turn away, then know that you cannot escape (from the Punishment of) Allah. And give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful torment to those who disbelieve. Except those of the Mushrikun with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves Al- Mattaqun (the pious – see V.2:2). Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And if anyone of the Mushrikun (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allah (the Qur’an), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not.” (Surah9:1-6)
These verses were revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. These verses instruct the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verses continue, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them… (as quoted above).
In the verse (9:6) Quran does not only say that you release those who seek protection but it goes even further and states to protect them! In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?-http://www.alsiraj.net/English/misc/nonmuslims/html/page22.html Another clarification for MANY misinterpretations of the Quran
4. And yes Muslims do believe what you said in the 7th point but they believe in him as a PROPHET not a God or the son of God just like many Christians do
5. I guess not so much failed empty talking points, I just revisited all your ‘issues’ that you previously stated about Islam and made them clear for you and anyone else..
If you have any other inquiries,issues, or concern, feel free to bring it up and I will happily revisit them with you and anyone else reading this and clear up any misinterpretations anyone might have about Islam and Muslims , I would just like to leave you with a question, I’m a teenage female living in Egypt who is a Muslim, wears the Hijab, and goes to an international school where I have learned about different religions and learned to CRITICIZE my own religion and question it and yet I have chosen it, and lots of my friends are Christians and we are close even more than my Muslim friends at times, do you think I’m a terrorist now?
Have a nice day (: (You take Hasanat if you smile in Islam, how can that be a religion or war?)
1. You should realize that you are not going to dictate what I do.
2. Jesus was a man of peace, Mohammad a killer and plunderer.
3. Islam allows pedophilia. Only the mentally ill think that is “well-rounded”.
4. Nothing you bring up in past history is going to get to back off on Islam today.
5. A lot of the reason so many are converting to Islam is pure ignorance.
6. You are hear attempting to cover for your ideology of hate. That makes you part of the problem.
7. Point out where I said I am a Christian. It is very telling how so many Muslims assume that. Your distain for Christianity is apparent.
8. Yes, I have read the entire book, and I did not mention 2:190. You are boring me with the usual robotic Muslim talking points.
9. Prove he informed them he was going to attack, and why was he attacking anyone in the first place.
10. Trees cannot be destroy in jihad, and Mohammad said it was OK to kill children in night raids.
11. I see convert or Muslims wage war. No, that is not force….
12. You failed to mention that 2nd class citizenship comes along with jizya.
13. A treaty with Islam means Muslims dominate. Of course you failed to mention that as well.
14. I have no questions for you, because your da’wah failed. Failed miserably.
15. Koran verse 5:51 instructs Muslims not to befriend Jews and Christians. You left that part out as well.
16. Mohammad called for perpetual war. Want the verse?
17. Good work on not refuting a thing. You have failed Allah.
Who are you to tell me that I failed Allah
Who are you to say that the da’awah failed? Have you read anything I sent about statistics in the previous comments?
Also what are you hoping to get out of our conversation? I doubt it that you will be convinced with anything I say no matter how accurate because you don’t want to.
Many of the things you said above are not true but what’s the point from even saying them to you, you will never change your mind..If i knew that there is even a 1% chance that you will change your mind about Islam and Muslims, I would keep going
I said it because it is true. You came here to try and cover for Islam, but have failed miserably. Which means you have failed Allah.
Here is the deal, either you prove your claim of “many of the things you said above are not true”, or you will not be here much longer. You empty talking points do not fly here.
Again, you are no Allah to tell me that I failed Allah. End of this point.
And I dont not try to cover for Islam, actually this website has helped me a lot in faith because I’m still young and I was born into Islam so I read articles that you write here and I learn about events that happened and then I go research and ask people about what you write and when I am given the answers which make more sense then what you write (at least for me) and then I learn more about my religion which makes my faith stronger, and since my first visit here, I have learned MUCH more about Islam then I knew my entire life and it made me closer to Allah. So thank you. And don’t worry you won’t see me here again 🙂
I am not worried. You are too blinded by Allah to see that you helped me. You did that by trying to justify sex slavery. The mind of a Muslim has spoken again….
Your da’wah has failed. So in turn you have failed Allah.
“Misinterpretations”….prove it. Why would think I would take you for your word alone?
Anonymous, interpreting the Koran the wrong way is immaterial. Look at every country in the world and see the cruelty and sexual filth carried out by Muslims, sex with animals, dead wives, children including babies. Beheading of non-Muslim men women and children in Thailand, Syria and other countries. Pouncing on innocent Chtistian communities and circumcising them. Throwing acid onto innocent women who resist Muslim males’ groping. Crucifying dogs in Malta where the non-Muslims are some of the most kindly, non-aggressive people in the world. Friday amputations, hanging of gays and so the horrors go on.
We in the West imprison those who carry out these psychopathic acts. You bore us with your constant ingratitude and harping on about our ‘sexual immorality’. Can you for a second think of something else other than sex? Why do Muslim men think it is ok to shove their hands in other people’s underwear for a quick grope or to circumcise them?
Emma,
No we can’t think of anything other than sex.
What color panties are you wearing?
Do you shave down below like muslim women?
Do you masturbste rdgulatly?
Please answer these questions so I, Logan and anyone else feeling a rise in their Levi’s can go and knock one out.
Then I can go pray….
You and people like you are one of the main reasons Islam has the reputation it has, Siraj
At moments like this I feel truly ashamed that there is Muslims like this..
Logan, do you reckon The father, the son and Holy Ghost ever had a gang bang? And if not how can you prove it?
Message for Siraj. Whatever I do shows my superiority to you and ‘the sisters’ as I make my own choices, think for myself, support freedom and condemn cruelty.
You have provided yet another example of a Muslim male salivating at the thought of someone else’s underwear.
So when you have finished demonstrating your sexual interests you go off and pray, eager to hear more insane orders from a self proclaimed ‘holy’ man. What a laugh!
Your posts shriek that you have sexual problems, especially the comment about going off to pray after panting to get sexual information. The sexually frustrated and/or deviants generally have an unhealthy, over emphasised interest in repressive religions.
That’s right, Siraj go and pray, go and empty the snot out of your nose, shove your behind in the air in a sexually provocative manner, flap your hands around your ears, because this is what you have been ordered to do. No reason, just go along with the brainwashing.
Dear Emma,
First of all I love your name because it is actually my best friend’s name :p
Secondly, Siraj doesn’t represent Islam or Muslim men and I think that you are sage enough to know that
I can’t deny that what he wrote got on my nerves and I was ashamed to know that he is a Muslim and that he is not the only one who represents Islam in a such filthy manner and they’re one of the reasons why Islam is viewed the way people view it now
But believe me, and maybe you don’t trust me just because I’m a Muslim and I don’t but the blame on you because the image of Islam and what people hear about it now is such a bad representation of it, but if you can find it in you to believe in what I have to say, please do, I want to tell you that not all Muslim men are like Siraj, there is actually good men who don’t treat women in a filthy way and are respectful and civil, just like from every religion and everything there is the good and the bad followers, the moderate and the extremest, there is as well in Islam
Thank you for you time
Islam allows child marriage (Bukhari), and the taking of sex slaves. (Koran 4:24, 4:25, & 33:50). Islam does not respect women, and your attempt to come off polite does not change that fact. I have seen all the games before.
Get me the hadith that allows child marriage,
4:24, 4:25, and 33:50 do not talk about “sex slaves” it says that from your slaves you can marry a slave with her parents’ permission and with giving them their payment. This is what it say. Mention the whole thing.
Haven’t you thought that Al Moshrkeen said everything about Muhamed(PBUH) from liar to magician but never said that he is a pedophile; because it was the norm back then.
If Islam didn’t respect women there would be no Hijab for them to cover themselves up because Islam treats women like jewels that must be covered and saved for that person.
Also my “attempt to come off as polite,” this is who I am as a person, not just a Muslim, I was raised to be polite and respectful which doesn’t have to do with my religion. I would still be the same polite respectful person I am even if I was an atheist.
Sex slaves they can marry, but do not have to. Parent’s permission? lol They are captives of war. You see, sources help.
4:24
According to the hadith women interrupted prayers, and Mohammad hit Aisha. That is not respect, and they should not be under the threat of rape to where a hijab.
Islam allows child marriage.
https://loganswarning.com/2010/08/24/questions-for-the-muslims-who-read-this-site/
Mohammad was a liar.
https://loganswarning.com/2009/12/15/islam-101-lying-is-permissible/
Was parental consent needed for this?
Muslim Hadith 4364
– See more at: https://loganswarning.com/2012/12/01/100s-of-chicago-muslims-take-to-the-streets-to-honor-their-perverted-prophet-video/#sthash.9r5fVmQX.VpbEC1uc.dpuf
Normal men do not get sexually aroused over 9 year-old girls, and if you respected non-Muslims, you would not be a Muslim. As Islam is hate-manual against non-Muslims.
Islam is viewed with disdain because of the Koran. It is a disgrace to humanity, and the only religion that is on a worldwide campaign attempting to subjugate all under a barbaric set of religious laws. This conversation is not going to go in circles for days. I suggest you prove me wrong about Islam already.
Well that is your opinion.
I already have proved you wrong in many points but you are not convinced.
Can’t wait to see on judgment day (if you believe in one) and then we can see who is right.
Have a nice day
There is no judgment day. If there is you will be among those harshly judged for torturing animals to death and offering them up to your god and selling the flesh as something called halal meat. Crazy, cruel and pathetic robots.
We will see Emmi
You have no proven anything wrong. Because your word alone is not proof.