Unfortunately I continually get reminders on why we are losing the war with Islam. Todays is most disappointing though. Back in August of 2012 I proudly posted about an anti-Islamic ex-Muslim warrior, who is stuck in the Boko Haram killing zone. Since then I have suspected his message was weakening, and today the final nail in the coffin was delivered. He has bowed down to Islam….
2 hours ago near Abuja, Abuja Capital Territory · MY LAST POST I would wish to apologise to all the good Muslims whom I have hurt by my incessant attack on the religion. It is now clear to me that I was never really a Muslim because I did not participate in all the rituals like ablution and praying 5 times a day which I saw as anachronistic and outdated. I have been struck by the incongruence of having the most wonderful friends who are Muslim and yet hitting hard on that faith because of my disillusionment with the antics of Boko Haram and the fanatics who bring a bad name to that religion.
He has gone from fighting Islam head-on to making excuses for the so called religion. He is now avoiding the fact is that Islam has been a threat to non-Muslims long before Boko Haram even existed.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24: Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.”
Back to Moo…
Because of my special position I have been privy to many Muslim discussions that were hateful and derogatory of other people and other religions. But one thing is fundamentally true about human rights and the freedom of religion – that all may worship as they choose, even if Islam may not hold that to be true, yet all those that stand by that creed must act with respect for what others believe.
Islam does not respect the beliefs of others. It calls for the dominance over Jews and Christians. By force if necessary.
{ قَاتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلاَ بِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلْحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُواْ ٱلْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ } Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam — from among of those who (min, ‘from’, explains [the previous] alladhīna, ‘those who’) have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily (‘an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning, ‘compliantly’, or ‘by their own hands’, not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam. His so “wonderful friends” have played him such a fool, that he is now defending Islam.
Moo:
I may not believe what you believe, but I will fight to the death to defend you right to believe it – provided you are not violent with your belief!!
Maybe the Jews should have stood up for the right of Nazis to practice…you know as long as it was not violent…
Moo:
Whilst I disagree essentially with many tenets in Islam, I defend the right of the Muslim who believes and acts in the belief that his religion is truly peaceful, irrespective of whether we both agree on the peaceful origins of that faith.
What if that Muslim is lying until Islam has the upper hand? After 1400 years of conquering non-Muslim land, why should non-Muslims take the change on trusting Muslims?
Moo:
However such Muslims of Peace bear upon them a terrible burden to clean up the mess which the extreme radicals have brought upon the religion. If one such as me, with my roots in Islam can develop a sudden detestation for Islam because of Boko Haram and their ilk, imagine what others think of Islam and the hate it must breed in them for all things Islamic.
Unfortunately Moo’s “wonderful friends” have talked him out of reality. Mohammad himself said he was going to drive all the Jews out of the Arabian Peninsula.
Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366: It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.
Big bad Mohammad also told his marauding Muslim men that it was OK to rape and impregnated captives of war. Was that all Boko’s fault?
Moo:
I have decided that nothing will be gained from hurting the majority of decent Muslims in pursuit of the histories that lead to violent Jihad. Islam must learn to open up, to question its roots, like Christianity did and still survived and became stronger despite the investigations and expositions of Science.
Moo even goes so far down the Islamic ass-kissing road that he plays the Muslim victim card. Right Moo, not “offending” Muslims is more important than saving our future generations from a life under Sharia Law. Brilliant…just brilliant…
Koran verse 10:64 says its words cannot be changed. How do you propose they change that Moo?
{ لَهُمُ ٱلْبُشْرَىٰ فِي ٱلْحَياةِ ٱلدُّنْيَا وَفِي ٱلآخِرَةِ لاَ تَبْدِيلَ لِكَلِمَاتِ ٱللَّهِ ذٰلِكَ هُوَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ }
Theirs are good tidings in the life of this world: in a hadīth verified by al-Hākim this has been explained as [referring to] a propitious vision which an individual might have or [a vision] which another might have of that person; and in the Hereafter: Paradise and reward. There is no changing the Words of God, no failing of His promises; that, mentioned, is the supreme triumph.
Moo:
Of one thing I am sure as I watched Muslim and French soldiers drive the Jihadist Riff Raff out of Mali, that violent Islam will never triumph over moderate Islam, or indeed over the Western ideologies of human rights and democracy – as indeed my friend Chritopher Logan fears. As I watch the battles in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Syria I can feel that extremist Islam is being replaced by modern, moderate interpretations – the yearnings of young Arabs who feel no shame in being modern and Western like the Muslims of Dubai and Malaysia. I now believe that the values of my beautiful thinking friend, Rashid Oniyangi and the Peace of Usman Bala Mohammed will finally triumph against those who propagate a violent Islam.
Does that include voting the Muslim Brotherhood into office? FYI Moo, non-Muslims are persecuted in those countries. Wishful thinking does not change that, nor will it win this war. As for your so called Muslim friends, I challenge you to name just one of them who has condemned Mohammad the perverted savage.
Moo:
I will wish to thank my friend Rashid Oniyangi for being the best Muslim ever and expousing modern interpretations of Islam which is where Islam must head. I particularly enjoyed his Father Christmas hat. I wish to thank Usman Bala Mohammed who tried so hard to make me a good Muslim, but failed when I was repeatedly threatened by death. Please forgive my anger.
Now I challenge you and your so called friend to show me just one “interpretation” that does not call for the dominance of non-Muslims.
Moo’s final words:
And with this I write my last. I shall now remove all that I have written. Moo Ham Mad is dead. Deadly Truth might be truthful, but sometimes Silence is Golden.
When it comes to someone who knew about Islam, silence is cowardice and suicidal. Now you are supporting the ideology of the enemy, and that makes you part of the problem! You should be ashamed!
Unfortunately Moo here is not the only one to be sucked into the “moderate” Islam con. Prominent names here in the USA have foolishly done so as well.
One is ACT’!’s Guy Rodgers:
We know how serious it is and we know that reformist Muslims have an uphill battle. But where I differ with Mr. Logan is that I know there are moderate and reformist Muslims, and we lose nothing by supporting their efforts.
A second is Daniel Pipes:
At the core of his argument is the view that “moderate Islam cannot exist.” To which I reply that Islam can be whatever Muslims wish to make of it.
Well Guy, we have everything to lose including America. Because your way does does not fight Islam head-on, and it is a proven failure. It lets Islam survive, as it is not looked upon as the enemy ideology it is.
As for Pipes, maybe he would like to explain how “Muslims” will get around Koran verse 10:64? I highly doubt he will respond though, it is easier for you to hide from me and my simple questions.
If you ask what the point of this article was, I will gladly tell you. Far too many non-Muslims continue to hold on to the easy out, a line of wishful thinking that “moderate” Islam is going to come to the rescue. Meanwhile in the real world, non-Islamic lands continue to change to suit Islam.
I am a bottom line guy, and the bottom line is that what these guys and many others are pushing is not even close to working. They need to lose the “moderate” Islam is coming to the rescue fantasy, and come into the real world and admit Islam needs to be fought head-on. The “moderate” Islam dream has only paved the way for Islam to make inroads into non-Islamic lands.
“Moderate Islam”…..the Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled…..
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It is now clear to me that I was never really a Muslim because I did not participate in all the rituals like ablution and praying 5 times a day which I saw as anachronistic and outdated.
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In this statement, the man says that he never had a will of his own, never actually decided that Islam was errant.
The worst thing he could ever admit, indeed, something that would insult “the religion” would be for him to say “I studied it, found it errant and wrong, and left of my own free will.”
Now that would have really created a firestorm.
And the truth of the matter really doesn’t matter in the Ummah. They’ll be satisfied if the man is silent, complicit in evil, and satisfied with the slaughter.
In the West, we have a concept– anything that is not given freely is not given at all.
Any contract or relationship that is made by duress is invalid, has no standing.
As far as I’m concerned, given the tone of the writing, this “conversion” was under duress, and therefore, invalid.
I do not respect it.
I’d have a question for any “moderate Muslim.”
Do you have any concept of free will, and if so, how does your religion respect an individual’s free will with respect to religious choice and the right to convert out of Islam?
Because that right exists in the West.
And it always will.
I think the classic quote from the newly enslaved to Mohammad Moo would be this one:
“I wish to thank Usman Bala Mohammed who tried so hard to make me a good Muslim, but failed when I was repeatedly threatened by death.”
Yes, quite. It was always the constant death threats that stopped me enjoying stamp collecting and the Lions Club…
No, really. Colonel Neville.
Islam is the religion of the all prophets and messengers of God. And your hatered of the truth has blinded you!. By denying Islam and attacking Islam your are wrondging no else but your owselves. How could you attack Islam while the Creator of the Heavens and the is the author of the Quran and islam is only religion known by Him?. Allah(Creator of the heaven and earth) gave you health and eyes and if you try to count the blessings God bestow upon you, you can’t never count it yet you are so busy attacking His only religion since the previous revelations are corrupted. Look into the evidences and from the bible and the Quran and you will realize that the Books are from the same God and Quran is the last and final book from God. Anyways it is your choice to investigate Islam or no. God is the judge between us and you and it is Him we put our trus. peace be upon those who follow the truth.
Whos truer than He(Allah) and He has say;
Quran Surah Al-Anbiyah’ (The Prophets)
In the Name of Allah,
The Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Draws near for mankind their reckoning, while they turn away in heedlessness
41. Indeed (many) Messengers were mocked before you (O Muhammad ), but the scoffers were surrounded by that, whereat they used to mock.
2. Is it wonder for mankind that We have sent Our Inspiration to a man from among themselves (i.e. Prophet Muhammad ) (saying): “Warn mankind (of the coming torment in Hell), and give good news to those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah and in His Prophet Muhammad ) that they shall have with their Lord the rewards of their good deeds?” (But) the disbelievers say: “This is indeed an evident sorcerer (i.e. Prophet Muhammad and the Qur’an)!
3. Surely, your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His Leave. That is Allah, your Lord; so worship Him (Alone). Then, will you not remember?
5. It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light and measured out its (their) stages, that you might know the number of years and the reckoning. Allah did not create this but in truth. He explains the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail for people who have knowledge.
108. . Say: “O you mankind! Now truth (i.e. the Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad ), has come to you from your Lord. So whosoever receives guidance, he does so for the good of his own self, and whosoever goes astray, he does so to his own loss, and I am not (set) over you as a Wakil (disposer of affairs to oblige you for guidance).”
10. Surah Yunus (Jonah)
2. This is the Book (the Qur’an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
al-baqarah:2
Oh look….another Muslim posting under different names from the same IP address. The God of Islam calls for the dominance and ultimate destruction of Christianity. Therefore it is not the same God as of Christianity. I asked you a question yesterday, and you did not respond. If you think you are going to ignore my points and questions, and just spread your empty talking points here, you are greatly mistaken.
Quran
2. You (O Muhammad ) are not, by the Grace of your Lord, a madman.
3. And verily, for you (O Muhammad ) will be an endless reward.
4. And verily, you (O Muhammad ) are on an exalted standard of character.
5. You will see, and they will see,
6. Which of you is afflicted with madness.
7. Verily, your Lord knows better, who (among men) has gone astray from His Path, and He knows better those who are guided.
6. Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah’s Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.
15. Allah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doings to wander blindly.
16. These are they who have purchased error for guidance, so their commerce was profitless. And they were not guided.
17. Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindled a fire; then, when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness. (So) they could not see.
18. They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path).
19. Or like a rainstorm from the sky, wherein is darkness, thunder, and lightning. They thrust their fingers in their ears to keep out the stunning thunderclap for fear of death. But Allah ever encompasses the disbelievers (i.e. Allah will gather them all together).
20. The lightning almost snatches away their sight, whenever it flashes for them, they walk therein, and when darkness covers them, they stand still. And if Allah willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their sight. Certainly, Allah has power over all things.
2. This is the Book (the Qur’an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
Quran al-baqarah
Mohammad plundered, raped, married what was his daughter-in-law, and a child. He was most certainly a madman. Learn to think for yourself.
Thanks for obsessing over my site!
You mention pious people. In my experience pious people are usually the ones who indulge in activities that the average human being shuns.
Take Tony Blair a pious man who converted to Catholicism to presumably increase his piety.
Now view the reality.
This man is a Socialist. He deliberately flooded the UK with immigrants, mainly backward Muslims, had an open door policy, in order to ‘rub the face of the Right in diversity’.
Ex soldiers sleep on the street, the poor rely on food parcels, non-Muslim children are bullied in multi-faith schools. We have run out of landfill for our rubbish and are told not to use hosepipes in summer. All due to overloading our services.
British doctors are not known for a worried outlook, preferring to brush aside even patient’s concerns. Health authorities are now ‘concerned’ that TB, once eradicated here, has risen by 70% due to immigration.
The USA has a pious president who acts like a Muslim and emphasises his Christianity.
It is not Christian to shake a happy civilisation to its core by flooding the country with a threatening, alien culture determined to bring its piety into the lives of those who would not condone its dreadful teachings.
Re Tony Blair, I omitted to say that this Socialist has made enough money from his political career to be able to live in a luxury area of London, give his children a property worth at least a million each, own other upmarket properties and bank around £40 million.
There are people in Britain who were told under the Blair Government that they must go blind in one eye before they qualify for a drug that can halt blindness, because we lack the funds. The present Government is looking at the problem.
Meanwhile Muslims who don’t work,live on benefits can overload our NHS with their fanatical drive to outbreed us.
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Tell me he was not subject to violence and intimidation.
I’ll never believe it.
Hi eib!
You could be correct, but he has been under that for years.
Dear Chris:
After all these years, you have NEVER failed, folded and sold out and never will, I’ll wager.
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I salute you. Five gold stars.
No, really. Colonel Neville.
Hey Colonel!
You have the right! I will never change my message to the suicidal one stating that “moderate” Islam is going to save the day. It did not happen in the UK and it will not happen here.
Keep up the fight sir!
We wonder what the “modern moderate interpretation” of “Kill” is.
“Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 9:5
Abu Qaqa, of Boko Haram, a modern orthodox hard liner, said:
“For peace to reign in the land, all Christians must convert to Islam. Allah has tasked all Muslims in Quran 9:29 to continue to attack Jews and Christians who refuse to believe in him and his messenger, Prophet Mohammed.”
The Rev. Dachollom Datiri, of the Church of Christ in Nigeria, said:
“It is a jihad, a religious war against Christians for refusing to embrace Islam. So, they are using terrorism as a weapon. That is the reason you see that the target of their attacks are Christians and our churches.” (www.Persecution.org 17 July 2012)
Look at the track record of Moderates-to-the-Rescue. It is zero. Logan is right: it is a fantasy, and a damaging distraction.
Heed Logan’s Warning.
A new book by Andrew C. McCarthy, “Spring Fever — The Illusion of Islamic Democracy,” addresses this hope for “moderate Islam” among both naive Westerners and Muslims who realize how primitive and cruel the Islam of the Quran really is. Formerly secular Turkey is quickly becoming Islamist. Palestine had its only “democratic” election years ago when HAMAS took over. They celebrated their victory by murdering their opponents. Now, in Egypt, fatwas are being issued to kill opposition leaders and journalists are facing arrest for telling the truth about the Islamist take-over. There is no moderate Islam, but Islamists pretend to embrace democracy and human rights in order to appease the West and citizens who cannot stomach Sharia Law. As Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan said recently, “There is no moderate Islam; Islam is Islam.”
The line between so called moderate and normal ( radical) Islam is kinda blurry and are shifting like sand dunes. The guy whom we call the shoe bomber used to be moderate before he became radical and now the travelers around the world have to remove their shoes in airport check lines. So this ” moderate ” bulshit is just an attempt to brainwash all of us to believe that islam is good in general except the few radical falks . I know that Islam is of the devil and is evil in any form , type or degree. Shit is shit and it stinks always.
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No, YOU should stop wasting time and prove my points wrong about Islam.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey, who said:
“These terms are very offensive. There is no “moderate” or “immoderate” Islam: Islam is Islam, and that’s it.”
also said:
“Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want.”
Sorry Chris, but I think your title should read “Islam…The Greatest Trick On Mankind the Devil Has Ever Made” or it is Islam that allows or everything else that is evil, under the sun, to fall into place on earth as a curse to mankind. Perhapsit is God’s punishment for turning our backs on Him.
Who knows, but we are stuck with Islam until the end…which may come sooner than we think.
That works as well al Kidya!
I came across this a while ago and thought you might like to read it http://www.revelado.org/islam.htm
Islam is a Manifesto of war and much more. It is of the Liar of all Liars who inspired Mo-ham-mad to create a false desert moon god, IF there ever really was a Mo. All Muslims, go cut off your right hand and your left foot as your Queer-Ann teaches. Then you will feel the lie that is Islam. You are pitiful sub-human and accursed!
Yes! Loganswarning tells the most important truth of our time. Moderate Islam is the tip of the Islamic sword that is stabbing our nation to death. Moderate Islam is an enemy invader infiltration ruse. Moderate Islam is the foremost enemy of America and it seems destined to conqueror us without even firing a shot. History may well record that America was killed by a psychological warfare opp called moderate Islam.
Well said sir!
Mr Guy Rogers: What we lose is an honest answer as to what Islam really is. We loose the truth. And you apparently believe the truth doesn’t count for very much. You are a deceiver. You might as well practice taqiyya for all the deception about the reality of Islam you promote.
Excellent comment gfmucci!
There is no such thing as moderate Muslims. Secretly or openly they all look forward to the day when whatever is their secret sexual depravity, it will be catered for. The males will be allowed four wives as sex slaves.
They get a lot of stuff being Muslim as they demand both respect and pity.
Plundering the lands of the infidel is taught as their religious right to solve Islamic poverty.
Nowhere can I find any other cult or religion that carries out such psychopathic activities on friends, enemies, neighbours, family as Islam. Nowhere can I see such paranoia being portrayed as religious, as Islam. The deeds of Muslims against infidels would qualify them for a lengthy stay in a high risk mental institution, in a normal world.
Thanks for the publicity!