My Phone Consversation With Islam Promoting Reverend Rasicci

This afternoon I put in a call to Reverend Michael D. Rasicci of the Calvary Episcopal Church. This is the Reverend who I wrote about the other day. He allows Muslims to have a Mosque in the Church basement.

The conversation went like this.

CL: Is this Reverend Rasicci?

Rev: Yes it is.

CL: This is Christopher Logan of Loganswarning.com. The website you responded to about a week ago. I just wanted you know that I have written an article about you allowing a Mosque in the Church basement. You can respond if you like.

Rev: OK.

He definitely sounded like this was an issue he did not want to discuss.

CL: I would like to know why you are promoting a religion that calls for the dominance of Christians?

Rev: I am not promoting it.

CL: Yes you are, you are not stating that Islam is the anti-thesis of Christianity, and you are allowing them to pray in the Church.

Rev: It creates dialogue. But I cannot get into this on the phone with you.

CL: I have just one more question. Koran verse 33:50 clearly states Mohammad was a rapist. Why would you allow this in your Church?

Rev: Well they are not rapists. (Meaning the Muslims praying in the Church basement.) I cannot get into this over the phone with you.

CL: That is not the point, you are allowing the religion/ideology onto Church property.

Rev: It is a difficult situation.

I could tell he really wanted to get off the phone.

CL: It’s not difficult. Christians have been persecuted under Islam for 1400 years, and you are not helping the matter. Have a good day.

Hopefully a seed was planted, and I encourage others to call the Reverend as well. Please be respectful though. He can be reached at 630-879-3378 ext. 302.

Thank you!

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34 comments for “My Phone Consversation With Islam Promoting Reverend Rasicci

  1. Anne
    July 13, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Good job, Chris. You were objective, factual and informative with the Reverend. Hopefully he’ll be thinking about what you said and do some research of his own.

    Even if he just questions his own logic–for example saying that the muslims using his church are not rapists. I’m sure there were many of Hitler’s SS who did not actually kill Jews, but supported Hitler’s agenda and enabled the murderous juggernaut to operate. Would any right-thinking person ever say, “well most of the SS did not kill Jews”?

    Of course we know what semantic gymnastics it would require to justify the SS.

    One other little comment Chris..it’s a grammatical thing. You use the term “dominance of” (as in “dominance of Christians”) )which would mean that the Christians are dominant. The correct expression would be “dominance over” Christians.

    I.E. Islam seeks dominance over Christians, Jews, and all non-muslims.

    Thanks Chris for your great site.

    • admin
      July 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      Noted, thanks Anne!

  2. BayouCoyote
    July 13, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Great job, Chris!

  3. Robin Shadowes
    July 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    A question he should ponder if he will get into heaven when he dies after having promoted the most evil vile ideology in his own church although his own holy book warns him of false prophets in the end-times. He probably don’t want to go to Hell but he sure is asking for it nonetheless.

  4. July 13, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    WHAT IS SO DISGUSTINGLY EVIL

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    WHAT IS SO DISGUSTINGLY EVIL

    What is so disgustingly evil is not just that Muhammad took man’s natural conception of God – A God
    of love, mercy and turned him 700 year after Christ into the AntiGod of extermination, terror, torture, rape, child molestation, hate …. not that Muhammad destroyed the Sermon on the Mount and the teachings of Jesus with the Quran – this is evil incarnate but what is so disgustingly evil are the Christians/ Ministers/Churches and Rabbis/Jewish elites who are embracing Islam.

    On June 26th 2011, 50 Christian Churches in 26 states will be participating in “Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding,” in which Imams will be reading from Qurans in Christian Churches. To put Qurans (a book of hate and evil) in a Christian Church shows no respect and love for Jesus as God.

    How would God feel about Christian Ministers/Rabbis embracing an ideology that allows grown Muslim men to have sex with Muslim child girls and sodomizing them, raping/gang raping kafir child girls/women as sex slaves, owning slaves as divine laws of Allah (the AntiGod)? What would God feel about these so called believers in God embracing Muslims terrorizing Christians, killing them, destroying their churches, kidnapping & raping their women, as divine, holy laws of Allah (the AntiGod)? What would God feel about Ministers/Rabbis allying themselves with Islam which seeks the total annihilation of Christians/Jews – the total obliteration of the Bible/torah, – the total destruction of Jesus as divine, eternal laws of Allah (the AntiGod).

    Tonight mankind is faced with 2 dramatically different prophets: Jesus Christ and prophet Muhammad and 2 dramatically different Gods – God of Moral Perfection and Allah (the AntiGod.) By embracing Islam these Minister/Rabbis have renounced God and have embraced Allah (the AntiGod). They have embraced evil. They have lost their immortal souls.

    • Bob is Great
      July 13, 2011 at 11:15 pm

      Interesting. Moe actually seems a good candidate for the “anti-christ,” not somebody yet to come. Why not? His greatest obsession was to deny that Jesus is the Son of God. Over and over he intones “Jesus, son of MARY,” ie Not the Son of God. Everything he stands for reverses Jesus and God the Father revealed through Jesus. The 5-times-a-day prayer starts by spitting on Christians and Jews. It is a religion solely obsessed with hating other religions. Other than that, Islamic “theology” is rather sparse and must be one of the boringest subjects in the world. It’s pretty much “say Im a Profligate or die.” Schmoe did not say anything wise or worth quoting, he didnt plum the depths of our experience like Jesus and Proverbs and St Paul and Genesis and so on. Its all as dry as the desert dust where it was concocted. There just are not any quotable quotes, except for “kill them wherever you find them,” I really like that one, I think I’ll pin it up next to the photocopier along all the funnies posted there.

      So I would say that he is the anti-christ if there ever was one, in that he came or was sent to indo everything Jesus did and to contradict everything Jesus said and stood for.

      • Susan
        July 14, 2011 at 7:32 am

        The most glaring difference between Jesus and mohammed is that Jesus taught tolerance and mercy and mohammed killed everyone who disagreed with him. Men were savagely murdered; their wives and children were taken as sex slaves. Muslims are lunatics when it comes to sex which is why they force women to wear tents; they don’t trust them because they understand their natures all too well.

        The Christian God is a God of mercy. The islamic god, allah is a perverted pimp who promises eternal drunken sex orgies with children in exchange for the murder of innocent people. These two philosophies couldn’t be more opposite. It’s clear when comparing Christianity and islam that islam is Satanism; islam itself is the Anti-Christ.

        If islam took over the world, it would become the worst version of Hell imaginable. Blood would flow down streets in rivers. Women and children would be raped constantly. No work would ever be done; buildings would crumble, no food would be produced. There would be no medicine, no new inventions, no progress. The Earth and all animal and plant life would burn. It would become HELL and muslims would be happy with that. It’s what they want, it’s what the quran teaches. It IS Satanism.

        Good job, Chris, for trying to wake up someone who has clearly become an instrument of Satan. I don’t know if you were successful, but at least you made him think about what he’s doing and made him realize people are watching him.

        • admin
          July 14, 2011 at 2:30 pm

          Exactly! Thank you Susan.

        • eib
          July 14, 2011 at 6:22 pm

          Quote:
          The most glaring difference between Jesus and mohammed is that Jesus taught tolerance and mercy and mohammed killed everyone who disagreed with him.
          end

          Add to it this:
          Jesus was not teaching love and mercy in order to stab someone in the back the next minute.
          Christ’s message is unambiguously humanistic, positive, tolerant and loving.
          He never used deceit, but always knew what it was when he encountered it– he always saw through it.

      • July 14, 2011 at 11:58 pm

        “Moe actually seems a good candidate for the “anti-christ,” not somebody yet to come. Why not? His greatest obsession was to deny that Jesus is the Son of God. Over and over he intones “Jesus, son of MARY,” ie Not the Son of God.”

        Muslim dailyy prayers 5 times a day repeat, among other things, that “God is not begotten nor does he beget”. This is a direct repudiation of mainstream Christianity. (Now, a few Protestant sects may agree with this, but all the major Christian churches that follow the Nicene Creed disagree.)

        Daily Islamic prayer is thus instilling a refutation of central creed of Christianity — that the Father begets the Son (Jesus) and that both are God (along with the Spirit).

        Islam came along over 300 years after the Nicene Creed clarified the Gospel as Father-Son-Holy Ghost — and Islam is a specific direct rejection of that clarification.

        The Muslims in Father Rasicci’s basement are spitting in his face, and in his Lord’s face, and he’s too stupid to see it. Or maybe he thinks he’s being humbly superior by being a “turn the other cheek” fool.

        Either way, his stupidity is part of the general Western blindness that is endangering my life, and the lives of my loved ones and fellow citizens.

        • eib
          July 15, 2011 at 4:21 am

          Quote:
          “God is not begotten nor does he beget”.
          end

          Muslims even tyrannize over God. The bastards.

  5. Melanie
    July 13, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Chris my respect and appreciation of you grows everyday. 🙂
    I think I will give him a call as well…

    • CGW
      July 14, 2011 at 2:53 am

      Yes, the more people that call him the better.

    • admin
      July 14, 2011 at 12:44 pm

      Thanks Melanie! Let us know how it went.

  6. Lord Tottenham
    July 14, 2011 at 3:57 am

    I always wonder why these so called Christians never ask themselvs,why don’t the Muslims ever ask us to read the Bible in their Mosques? I don’t suppose it has anything to do with the fact that, what Muslims say to a Christians face,is not what they say when they are amongst their own people.Which is probably something like “useful idiots”

  7. Dennis H. Bennett
    July 14, 2011 at 5:17 am

    As Rasicci did in 2002, he again repeats the default of his vows using politics to escape a sinful behavior on his part. This is probably only the tip of the iceberg in terms of what he avoids dealing with. I can respect a Pastor or Reverend who stands on, in this case, Biblical norms and values, but I have little regard for one so easily swayed by such cheap and superficial excuses as a social or political convenience. From Pelosi’s avid support of abortion to Obama’s “basement” dealing(s) with Islam, the avoidance of clear, Christian principles for the care of the people, expose who they really worship.

  8. eib
    July 14, 2011 at 5:52 am

    Quote:
    CL: That is not the point, you are allowing the religion/ideology onto Church property.

    Rev: It is a difficult situation.
    end

    Any collaborator in France between 1941 and 1944 would have said the same thing.
    If this is not Vichy, nothing is.

    • eib
      July 14, 2011 at 5:55 am

      The church is truly conquered territory.
      The pastor’s reply validates the contention more than it calls it into question.
      He chooses to have a dialogue with Muslims, strangers, and yet he refuses to have any dialogue with Westerners, skeptics and other Christians, about the theological, institutional, cultural and political implications of what he has done.

      • July 15, 2011 at 9:19 am

        “He chooses to have a dialogue with Muslims, strangers, and yet he refuses to have any dialogue with Westerners, skeptics and other Christians, about the theological, institutional, cultural and political implications of what he has done.”

        Excellent point. If anyone else calls the Reverend, bring up this basic contradiction in his behavior.

    • eib
      July 14, 2011 at 5:56 am

      Wherever you deal with a Muslim, Muslims or with Islam, you are doing things that have implications far, far beyond religion and far, far beyond yourself.
      Here in the West, where we personalized and individualized religion and so much, we don’t understand this problem much.
      But we must. We absolutely must if we are to preserve our civilization & culture.

  9. Greg
    July 14, 2011 at 7:14 am

    I agree with pretty much everyone here. The muslim religion talks about killing everyone else through out the whole koran. It also talks about if it helps the muslim get ahead in anyway to use anyone with mohamed’s blessing. The koran is very visibly a very evil piece of writing and it promotes hate, killing and a bunch of other things that was written above me here. It is disgusting that the governments and now this priest is allowing them in to our peaceful (pretty much anyway) society. This is the beginning – they will put their roots in every aspects of our lives. They threaten us every day on national tv, burn our flags, our bibles and chant kill them. This is horrible. This Priest is allowing himself to be used as a tool. There is nothing you can do or say to change these people. We give those countries so much money in aid yet they still spit in our faces and chant kill them and burn our flags and bibles in the streets. We have to stop this movement of Evil while we can before our society is one build on sharia law and we are all scared to leave our homes.

  10. sue snoots
    July 14, 2011 at 7:34 am

    Thank you for standing up to others who profess to be Christians, yet support Muslims and their idealogy. “What hath light to do with darkness?”

    Keep on standing for the Word of God and warning believers of the consquences of supporting Muslims, and giving them space in
    their Church. They need to really read the Koran and also God’s Word!!

  11. July 14, 2011 at 8:35 am

    It is a grave mistake to invite someone into a church that teaches an antichristian ideology. Islam isn’t the AntiChrist, but it is definitely antichristian because it teaches hatred of everyone including, if you think about it, the Muslims. Muslims war against each other, and murder each other wholesale. Almost the entire Muslim Middle East is at present aflame with mayhem and war because of Islam and/or Shariah.

    Nowhere in the Qur’an will you find a lesson on Justice, Morality, or Love of Neighbor — NOWHERE!!!! It’s all about hatred.

    WE MUST DESTROY THE ISLAMIC KILLING MACHINE BEFORE THE ISLAMIC KILLING MACHINE DESTROYS US.

    • Robin Shadowes
      July 14, 2011 at 11:46 am

      The reverend are probably aware of all the dangers with pislam but are too frightened to do anyting about it. So he hopes the croc will devour him last.

  12. Bob is Great
    July 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    It’s true everyone. This will be the most important situation, outside of our own personal lives, that any of us will deal with for a long time. Get ready for a long seige. Knowing this should steel our nerves to do the kinds of things that Chris did in this phone call for example, when the situation calls for it. I am sure we will all have plenty of chances to act. See you out there.

  13. admin
    July 14, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Thanks everyone!

  14. Lucy
    July 14, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Thank you for your great work.

  15. Urban11
    July 15, 2011 at 12:58 am

    Keep up the good work!

  16. Carolyn
    July 15, 2011 at 8:29 am

    The pastor probably believes the Biblical God and allah are the same deity.
    Who is the “great deceiver” pastor? Did you know one of the attributes of allah is that he is considered to be the best deceiver there is?
    http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_best_deceiver.htm

  17. July 15, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    You cannot coexist with people who want to kill you, or make you their lesser, or force you to pay money to them because of your religion…..

    Chris, email him this….see how he views these words.

    How to Debate and frustrate Infidels

    By Ayesha Ahmed (Alumni Jihad University. Pakistan)

    Preface by Ayesha Ahmed
    Dear Brothers and sisters in Islam: we live in Kuffar country and daily we have to face the infidels who criticize Islam and our prophet, and who want to debate us.
    In an Islamic country if someone did that all we would have to do is to announce loudly and the rest is taken care of by an angry Mob, the critic is lynched in no, time end of story.

    However here we don’t have that luxury as yet, inshallah in the foreseeable future, after we grow by conversions of morons and criminals in Prison, legal and illegal immigration and procreation, we will inshallah become the majority and will not have to face this problem on a daily basis.

    However for the time being the following is a approach all Muslim brothers and sisters can use when faced with such a pest, Jazakallah Kahir, inshallah the vermin will steer clear of you in the future.

    1. A popular question is “why Islam calls for the death of Islamic critics and apostates” insist that their info is false and quote aya “To you your religion and to me my religion”.

    2. To answer, “Islam spread with the sword”, say that is a big lie spread by Jews and Hindus and that the Quran clearly says “there is no compulsion to religion”.

    3. If someone quotes Violent ayas from the Quran accuse him of quoting ayas in bits and pieces and cherry picking.

    4. If he then quotes full ayas, and ayas before and after, then insist that the translation is wrong.

    5. if he brings ten different translations then say correct meanings can only be understood only by reading the Quran in Arabic.

    6. if he happens to be well versed in the Arabic language then insist the ayas don’t mean what they appear to mean as they have allegorical meanings.

    7. If he is adamant, then you say cannot understand those ayas and it’s context without reading the without reading the hadith and sira.

    8. If he shows up with the hadiths and siras in hand and quotes the context of the violent ayas by referring to hadiths by the prophets Rapes, robberies and assignations and genocides, then insist all the hadiths and siras are hearsay and are false, and only truth is in Quran.

    9. If he says Quran is manmade document and wants proof of divinity, then refer to the sciences in the Quran and the book written by Dr. Bucaile confirming the sciences in our holy book, you can also quote Mahatma Gandhi read the Quran daily and also spoke highly of it.

    10. If he says Bucaile was on Saudi payroll and that nor he nor Gandhi ever changed their religions and that Bucaile was challenged and proved wrong by many experts then challenge him to ask his experts to debate islamist Losers like Zakir Naik.

    11. If the pest still hangs around, then change the topic and find faults in other religions and their books.

    12. If he continues on then use personal attacks and insult him by calling him a Jewish “A**Hole, a Chinese Pig or Hindu dog.

    13. If that does not frustrate him, ask him how much he is paid by Jews to throw dirt on Al Islam,

    14. If he still does not stop, then run for his mother and sister and use very filthy language.

    15. If he is very stubborn and wants to continue, then curse him like “Burn in Hell you will repent on last day, Allah will get you in your grave etc.

    16. When all the above has failed, threaten him with bodily harm and end the debate by drum beating and announcing that you won the debate hands down because Quran is the word of Allah.

    17. If possible announce in an islamist website that you had won it handily, such announcements do wonders for the imam of muslim website readers and for dawah operations to convince the low I.Q prisoners of the truth of Al Islam.

  18. July 15, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    looks and reads like the Liberal progressives Handbook ….

  19. Anne
    July 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Chief, “How to Debate and Frustrate Infidels” was a tongue-in-cheek parody on Islam Watch from March 2007 by Ayesha Ahmed who writes some great columns on that site. It is exactly how Muslims “debate” but this gives us some comic relief, too. Something we all need sometimes.

  20. July 15, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    you can youtube her under “how to debate and frustrate infidels” on youtube, I find her like all muslims nauseating,, and repulsive, I find her comments vulgar and very disrespectful to Jews and Christians, and I dont see anyone with that type attitude still standing by the time they get to #12

  21. admin
    July 15, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Reverend,

    If you are reading, do you see what is happening within America? What you are enabling?

    USA: Hizb ut-Tahrir Leader Calls for Muslim Armies to Unite, Speaks of “Sheikh Obama” ~ Video

    http://loganswarning.com/2011/07/15/usa-hizb-ut-tahrir-leader-calls-for-muslim-armies-to-unite-speaks-of-sheikh-obama-video/

    I urge you to rethink your position, and tell them they have one week to leave the Church.

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