My “Debate” With Islamic Apologist, Professor Juan Cole

When last week’s South Park/Mohammad controversy started, the NY based RevolutionMuslim.com website, had stated that the shows creators Matt Stone, and Trey Parker might be murdered. (Video below)

At this point Professor Juan Cole, came running to defend Islam. Which is basically what his life revolves around.

“Yunus Muhammad” says in the interview that the Qur’an instructs Muslims to ‘terrorize the disbelievers.’ It does no such thing. The Qur’an instructs Muslims to live at peace with non-Muslims who are at peace with them. (It turns at that this minor, fringe group is led by converts from Judaism, one of them a former settler in Israel. It is not clear whether they have sincerely exchanged one fanaticism for another or whether this is a false flag operation, perhaps of an intelligence agency. In any case, it is no accident that they are ignorant of the Qur’an.

The false flag comment is pretty funny, as Cole will obviously say anything to defend Islam. At this point I left the following post on Cole’s site. It was held in moderation mode, until approval.

Juan Cole needs to stop making excuses for Islam.

Here is what 8:60 states.

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YUSUFALI: Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.

The Koran does say to terrorize non-Muslims.

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YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”

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YUSUFALI: This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.

You guys might want to look up what “contend” means. Simple reasons that call for Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims.

Contend

Or this hadith…

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

I know, Cole knows more about Islam, and has more influence in the Islamic world, than Sahih Bukhari does…

The Koran also instructs Muslims that they can kill someone for spreading “mischief” in the land. “Mischief”, can be anything that a Muslim says that it is.

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YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

The Koran is also for all time, and Mohammad’s actions are to be followed for all time.

The funny part is that Juan Cole, does not get to dictate to Muslims what Islam is. But his followers act like he has a say in the Islamic world. The man is a traitor to Western Civilization.

Have a nice day…

I also emailed the comment to Cole, and the following was that best that he could do.

In order to iterpret an ancient text expertly you need to know the
language and the context.

At least have the humility to know what you don’t know.

JRIC

The old, it is not interpreted correctly excuse does not fly. So in my reply, I pointed out which Islamic scholars had translated the scriptures that I have studied.

Translation: You cannot refute what I said, and Islam is a religion of war. Which is backed up by Yusuf Ali, Bukhari, Muslim, and the scholars at Al Azhar. But maybe they did not know the language and context either, and you know better. That is pretty funny. You are a fraud, that helps the enemy advance.

They are all wrong, and you the nobody in the Islamic world is right. Hilarious.

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YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

The context is that the actions of Mohammad, are to be followed for all time.

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YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

But you only show your readers what you want them to know.

Besides these scholars, maybe you can go to Al Azhar (the highest learning Islamic school in the world), and teach them what Islam really is….

Have great day!

At this point Cole ran away, with his tail between his legs. He also left this comment on his site.

Juan says:
April 22, 2010 at 2:00 pm
You would be wrong. The Qur’an says that Christians are closest in love to Mislims. The Qur’an does not consider non-Muslims enemies of God! It praises the children of Israel. False premises lead to false assertions.

I responded by saying that verse 5:32 (above), and the following verse which calls for the extortion of Christians and Jews do not praise Israelis. Why do you only show your readers certain parts of the Koran?

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YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

For hours my comments on his site were held in moderation mode. They were then deleted by Cole, who obviously does not want his readers to know the ugly truth about Islam. Juan Cole, the cowardly traitor.

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21 comments for “My “Debate” With Islamic Apologist, Professor Juan Cole

  1. April 26, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Cowardly traitor- or paid hit man?

    • April 26, 2010 at 8:49 pm

      Good point!

    • Robin Shadowes
      April 27, 2010 at 1:15 am

      Thanks for your comment. We have a guy like Juan in Sweden, an pislamologist who has excused pislam for decades. I've always seen him as a traitor but now it makes me wonder.

  2. ChrisLA
    April 26, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Never have I been able to engage in a ratonal debate with a Muslim apologist. They have a deep bag of tricks and excuses for NOT acknowledging what their sacred texts actually show. Just the same, it is important to take them on and expose their lies — publicly if possible. Shame, their shame, is the only emotion that will get their attention.

    I tried to engage Revolution Muslim on their eight page justification for their death threat against the creators of South Park. The best they could do was refer me to a website of commentary on the Quran. Pathetic ! But way their justification quotes a number of Islamic scholars who lived 700 to 1,000 years ago in places where the government and judiciary was under the Caliph. They seem to have forgotten that they don't have that situation here in America. In fact, the Caliph doesn't exist anymore anywhere.

    • April 26, 2010 at 9:31 pm

      Islamic apologists usually resort to either bringing up the Crusades, or calling you a "racist". Then they run away.

      RevoultionMuslim is all for bring back the Caliph though.

      • April 27, 2010 at 3:38 am

        The Crusades, of course, were a defensive response to centuries of hislamic* aggression.

        * thought I'd trial a new nickname. As most know, feminists like to use the word herstory to promote their version of history. Given that hislam is male-oriented to the extreme, if I can get that meme planted with feminists, they might be more likely to start railing against it.

    • April 27, 2010 at 3:44 am

      The hislamic caliphate is a real joke. Practically every caliph was murdered by his successor. So much for being right guided. Or perhaps they were, in the hislamic sense of right guidance – that is, the opposite of everything normal.

  3. April 27, 2010 at 3:41 am

    Its funny that Yunus Muhammad freely admits that the koran promotes terrorism then proceeds to provide his own interpretation of what he thinks terrorism is. Too bad the examples he gives are all ones that arselifters have used against infidels.

    • eib
      July 12, 2011 at 5:36 pm

      Not very inventive.
      No, not very inventive at all.

  4. April 27, 2010 at 3:47 am

    At this point Professor Juan Cole, came running to defend hislam. Which is basically what his life revolves around.
    LOL! Which is really, really funny. Nobody has a right to define hislam outside of the hislamic clergy. Especially not dhimmis.

    • April 28, 2010 at 5:36 am

      That is what is so funny about his site. His followers act like what he says matters.

      • April 28, 2010 at 1:30 pm

        Just checking his site again, I notice he didn't publish any of my comments and is still peddling his poor translation line. He's a complete tool.

  5. Laura
    April 28, 2010 at 5:29 am

    juan cole is beyond repugnant to not only be an apologist for islam but to actually turn it around and claim these crazies are really Jews. To claim that revolution muslim consists of converted Jews who have traded one fanaticism for another reveals what a moral degenerate he is. When have Jews threatened anyone's life for criticizing Judaism. What imaginary Jewish fanatics are waging global war and committing bloodshed on a massive scale?

  6. April 28, 2010 at 5:34 am

    I emailed him this link, and he ignored it. Another person that I know, went to challenge Cole on his site. His comments were deleted as well. The man is a pure coward.

  7. April 29, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Great post Christopher. Here is another example of how it is "our fault" for Muslims reacting to cartoons the way they do. It is because we are Islamophobic!! And the author is a "moderate" Muslim.http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/04

  8. April 30, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Haha….I saw your comment there, earlier today.

    Keep up the good work!

    • April 30, 2010 at 9:48 pm

      I noticed it was deleted…Typical, no?

  9. April 30, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Of course.

  10. eib
    July 12, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    quote:
    “Yunus Muhammad” says in the interview that the Qur’an instructs Muslims to ‘terrorize the disbelievers.’ It does no such thing. The Qur’an instructs Muslims to live at peace with non-Muslims who are at peace with them.
    end

    He claims to know the “Yunus Muhammad.”
    He does not quote directly from said text in reply.
    He demands that you simply trust him.
    In any academic setting, this is unacceptable– the text exists, it should be referred to and quoted directly. Never, ever take the word of the “scholar” alone.

    It’s true that Cole has made his career, as several other academics have, by apologizing and covering for the Muslim onslaught. They would have us accept the conquest quietly under their authority.
    Such people have no idea that reason has absolutely no authority in Islam and argument consists of name-calling and violence.
    They defend the Muslims because Muslims will use violence to defend them.
    They defend Muslims because they like the idea of a true alliance between white and non-white peoples.
    They don’t realize that under Islam or Multiculturalism, the world will be united in fear of violence.
    Violence of men against women, men against men, and all against children.
    They don’t realize that under Islam, the world will be colorless, dead, and all diversity will be gone.
    There is no unity in diversity– unity will not protect diversity.
    The only protection diversity has is diversity itself.
    Islam will destroy diversity, will crush the rule of reason and replace it with the rule of fear.

  11. eib
    July 12, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Quote:
    The Qur’an says that Christians are closest in love to Mislims.
    end.

    Jeez, Juan.
    How about the Copts of Egypt?
    How about the Melkits of Syria?
    How about the Catholics in Baghdad, whose numbers are getting fewer and fewer every day?
    What the hell do you say to that?
    Closest in love?
    You’re dead wrong. This is a lie that you have swallowed– a lie contradicted by the blood of 1,400 years!
    Egypt, Syria, The Byzantine Empire and much of North Africa were Christian countries.
    There was even some pluralism and variance in the religions practiced there.
    Europe had a pluralism of religions right up to the Early Modern Era.
    Don’t tell me about the tolerance of Islam.
    The blood of Bragadin, Famagusta and thousands more screams against you!

    • eib
      July 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm

      Do you have your zunnar, Prof. Cole?
      Oh, if you are a skeptic, you don’t even have the right to live.
      Who will protect you?

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