Recently I obtained some literature from Masjid Nur Al-Islam, located in the Kensington section of Brooklyn NY. The Masjid is known for blasting the call to prayer from its rooftop for all to hear. By analyzing the literature we’ll see how they are attempting to lure non-Muslims into their religion of domination.
The first is the “30 Facts About Islam” pamphlet.
1) “Islam” means “peace through the submission to God”.
They have purposely left out the fact that Muslims are to fight and force this “peace” on non-Muslims, if they do not accept Islamic rule. Which will leave them as a subordinate to Islam.
Koran Verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
I am going to skip ahead to the most pertinent ones.
5) There are six articles of faith in Islam. These are the basic beliefs that one must have in order to be considered a true Muslim. They are belief in: A) the One God. B) all the prophets of God. C) the original scriptures revealed to Prophets Moses, David, Jesus, and Muhammad. D) the angels. E) the Day of Judgment and the Hereafter. F) the divine decree (or destiny).
What they fail to mention is that the Jesus of Christianity, is NOT the Jesus of Islam. As the Jesus of Islam is said to come back and destroy Christianity! Now why would he come back and destroy the religion he started? Come on, at least try and make sense. After destroying Christianity, the Islamic scriptures state he will govern the world under Islam.
Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)
Moving right along.
6) Islam is a complete way of life that governs all facets of life: moral, spiritual, social, political, economical, intellectual, etc.
Yes, Islam even governs those who want nothing to do with Islam. That’s my point.
9) Allah is not the God of Muslims only. He is the God of all people and all creation. Just because people refer to God using different terms does not mean that they are different gods. Spanish people refer to God as “Dios” and French people refer to God as “Dieu”, yet they are all the same God. Interestingly, most Arab Jews and Arab Christians refer to God as “Allah”. And the word Allah in Arabic appears on the walls of many Arab churches.
This one is CONical. If “Allah” is so perfect, why were their Churches in the first place? Why not just have Mosques only from day one?! The reason is that Allah is not the God of Christianity. This is easily proven in the following two examples.
The 9Th Commandment states the following:
The Islamic scriptures state it is OK to lie.
Muslim Hadith Book 032, Number 6303:
Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).
So what, did the God of Christianity suddenly change his or her mind and say “what the heck”, let the lies fly?!
The 10Th Commandment states the following:
“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife,….
I guess the God of Christianity had another change of heart, and added this scripture later in time.
Jihad: o9:13 When a child or a woman is taken captive they becomes slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled. (From Reliance of the Traveller, Justice Chapter p.604.)
So if you lust for your neighbor’s wife, just take her as a captive of jihad. As I said the God of Christianity, is NOT the God of Islam. Keep trying…
12) Muslims believe in and acknowledge all the prophets of old, from Adam to Jesus. Muslims believe that they brought the message of peace and submission (islam) to different peoples at different times. Muslims also believe that these prophets were “muslims” because they submitted their wills to God.
Once again, if the God of Islam is so great, why didn’t he or she just have the Koran written from day one? If all the prophets were Muslims, how come no one bothered to tell them? Scratch your head on that one my Muslim readers….
19) Muslims do not believe in the concept of “vicarious atonement” but rather believe in the law of personal responsibility. Islam teaches that each person is responsible for his or her own actions. On the Day of Judgment Muslims believe that every person will be resurrected and will have to answer to God for their every word, thought, and deed. Consequently, a practicing Muslim is always striving to be righteous.
Of course they leave out the fact that being “righteous” means to kill Jews to reach judgment day.
Muslim Hadith Book 041, Number 6985:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
20) Islam was not spread by the sword. It was spread by the word (Islamic teachings) and the example of its followers. Islam teaches that there is no compulsion in religion (the Holy Qur’an 2:256 and 10:99).
Ummm….it sure has. I guess you have never heard of the Muslim invasions of Egypt and Persia. As far as your “no compulsion” bit, please refer to my response to #1.
21) Terrorism, unjustified violence and the killing of innocent people are absolutely forbidden in Islam. Islam is a way of life that is meant to bring peace to a society, whether its people are Muslim or not. The extreme actions of those who claim to be Muslim may be, among other things, a result of their ignorance or uncontrolled anger. Tyrant rulers and those who commit acts of terrorism in the name of Islam are simply not following Islam. These people are individuals with their own views and political agendas. Fanatical Muslims are no more representative of the true Islamic teachings than Timothy McVeigh or David Koresh are of Christianity. Extremism and fanaticism is a problem that is common to all religious groups. Anyone who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists should remember that the famous boxer Muhammad Ali, perhaps the most celebrated person of our era, is a practicing Muslim.
The IslamoCON is in full gear now. Because Mohammad was a self-professed terrorist.
Muslim Hadith Book 004, Number 1062:
Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon hlmg) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me.
They also avoid stating what “innocent people” are, and leave out the fact that anyone can be killed for “spreading mischief” in the land. Timothy McVeigh did not state his horrific act was done in the name of Christianity, and David Koresh was a child molester. Just as Mohammad was, and Jesus was not. In your DESPERATE attempt to defend Islam, you talk too much. The more you talk, the more your deception will be exposed.
Let’s move onto the Mohammad Ali con. He was a stooge of Islam, who implies he is against slavery, but joins a religion of slavery.
Muslim Hadith Book 10, Number 3901: Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) on migration; he (the Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).
It also seems he actually believes Islam is a religion of peace. Talk about being used.
22) The word “jihad” does not mean “holy war”. Instead, it means the inner struggle that one endures in trying to submit their will to the will of God. Some Muslims may say they are going for “jihad” when fighting in a war to defend themselves or their fellow Muslims, but they only say this because they are conceding that it will be a tremendous struggle. But there are many other forms of jihad which are more relevant to the everyday life of a Muslim such as the struggles against laziness, arrogance, stinginess, or the struggle against a tyrant ruler or against the temptation of Satan, or against one’s own ego, etc.
Actually they only tell their targets half the story here. Jihad has two meanings, the greater jihad is the inner struggle, but thee lesser jihad means to wage war against non-Muslims, signifying warfare to establish the religion. (Reliance of the Traveller, Justice Chapter, p. 599.)
23) Women are not oppressed in Islam. Any Muslim man that oppresses a woman is not following Islam. Among the many teachings of Prophet Muhammad that protected the rights and dignity of women is his saying, “…the best among you are those who treat their wives well.” (Tirmidhi)
Is this “protecting the dignity” of woman?
Muslim Hadith Book 004, Number 1034:
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: A woman, an ass and a dog disrupt the prayer, but something like the back of a saddle guards against that.
Muslim Hadith Book 004, Number 1039:
Al-Aswad reported that ‘A’isha said: You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses, whereas I lay on the bedstead and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came there and stood in the middle of the bedstead and said prayer. I did not like to take off the quilt from me (in that state), so I moved away quietly from the front legs of the bedstead and thus came out of the quilt.
Real nice….real nice.
24) Islam grants women numerous rights in the home and in society. Among them are the right to earn money, to financial support, to an education, to an inheritance, to being treated kindly, to vote, to a dowry, to keep their maiden name, to worship in a mosque, etc., etc.
The reality of the situation is that Islam grants woman less rights than men. In court testimony is one example of this.
Koran verse 2:282
YUSUFALI:Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her.
As you can see the harsh realities of Islam have been omitted. But wait! It gets better.
Page 6: “Allah informs us in the Qur’an that Muhammad is mentioned in the Torah and Gospel, through his descriptions and actions.
Koran Verse 007.157
YUSUFALI: “Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;– for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.”
They go on to point out Koran verse 61:006, which says that Jesus himself was happy that Mohammad was coming. (Here is a clue, just because it is in the Koran, does mean it is true.)
Koran Verse 061.006
YUSUFALI: And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!”
Their next move is to try and claim the Bible spoke of Mohammad by quoting Isaiah 29:12. Claiming the illiterate was Mohammad. “Who is this who cannot read other than Mohammad?” But if you look at the surrounding verses you will see that the Lord was talking about “people”, NOT just one man.
11 For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say to him, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I can’t; it is sealed.” 12 Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I don’t know how to read.” 13 The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men. 14 Therefore once more I will astound these people with wonder upon wonder; the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish.” 15 Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the LORD, who do their work in darkness and think, “Who sees us? Who will know?”
Even if the Lord was referring to Mohammad, it was not in a favorable way! Like I said, the more you talk, the more I will expose. Enjoy!
I just want to know why people are so easily lured in to anything, but especially Islam. Why aren’t people suspicious of any ideology or “religion’ that is so anxious to convert you. That is the first question. And why don’t people do their homework? Of course, some people actually studied history. And some people actually studied their own religion and would know to say NO.
Unfortunately far too many people want to believe Islam is a peacefully religion. As believing that makes life easier for them, because they do not have to fight back. Then there are people who just will not take the time, to find out the harsh realities about Islam.
Beacuse there dim.
“What they fail to mention is that the Jesus of Christianity, is NOT the Jesus of Islam”
AMEN CHRIS!!!!!!
Jesus tells us in John 14, “6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
And again in John 14, ” 9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves”
There is nothing mentioned about the pedophile prophet, except in 1 John 2, “18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[e] 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Or in 2 John, “7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what we[a] have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”
The Jesus and Prophets mentioned in the unholy qur’an are NOT those mentioned in the Holy Bible, merely phony copies dreamed up by an EVIL madman named mohammed!
As usual, Thank you Chris for your hard work!
Matthew 24
“26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, *he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.”
Direct warning from Jesus Christ.
Correct me if I am wrong, it seems to me that Isaiah 29 also includes the identity of the owner of this prophetic word: “The Lord God”, “The Holy one of Israel”, “The Lord who redeemed Abraham”, “The God of Israel”, and the “HOLY ONE OF JACOB”. Jacob is a descendent of Isaac not Ishmael. Israel (God prevails) is Jacob’s honorary name as the Patriarch whose sons comprise the promised Nation of Israel. Certainly there is more but by this alone “allah” is clearly not the “Holy one of Jacob”. In all respects “allah” is trying to kill Jacob. And nowhere that I am aware of does allah claim to be the “Holy one of Israel” or Mohammed claim to be the prophet of (and certainly not the worshiper of) the “Holy one of Jacob” or “Israel”. Therefore it is clear that God and allah are opposites.
Well said!
One thing you are doing that belies your ignorance of Islam, or the worship of God at all: questioning His will.
Why didn’t God do this?
Why didn’t God do that?
Why did he say this?
Why did he say that?
God does as God wishes, and it is not up to us to question His actions or His laws. God says, “Don’t eat from that tree.” Period. Not, “Don’t eat from that tree unless you really feel like it.” God tells us to do things and not to do things for a reason- sometimes his reasons are known to us, sometimes they are not.
Why didn’t God have the Qur’an written from the beginning? That’s for Him to know and you to find out- not for Him to know and you to question and disobey until you get the answer you want to hear.
All in all, I am very sad that many people who read this website are sadly misinformed about Islam and Muslims in general. Ignorance breeds mistrust, mistrust breeds fear, and fear breeds hate. If you and many of your readers would take the time to actually study Islam- from credible sources- and ask questions of people who have the correct answers- and not just the hate-filled speeches we hear all the time- perhaps you would find that Islam is not what you think it is, and is so much better than what you first were led to believe.
Unlike you I am not a slave to Islam, and unlike you I am not afraid to question it. The Koran, the Sahih Bukhari and Muslim ahadith and Reliance of the Traveler are credible sources. Try again.
You just want people to ask Muslims like you questions, so you can try and cover for Islam. Sorry, that does not work here. The bottom line is that you talk and talk, but have not refuted a thing.
And you admin ,what will you say about the verses of Holy Bible, in which Jesus Christ is mentioning A FIGHT …you infidels only say, that Jesus Is Love but Jesus himself is denying your faith about Him…. refer to
Holy Bible, Matthew, 10:34-35
Do not suppose that I (Jesus Christ) have come to bring peace to the earth: it is not peace I have come to bring, but a sword.
For I have come to set son against father, daughter against mother, daughter-in-law against mother-in-law;
1. I am not religious.
2. It is comical how Muslims say they respect Jesus when it suits them.
3. It is not a command.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/matthew_10_34.htm
Christians are not on a worldwide jihad, so your point is moot.
Muhamamd – you make this to easy. The adminstrator of this site may not be religous, but I am, and I won’t let you come here and distort what the Holy Bible says.
Lets look at what The Holy Bible ACTUALLY says:
Matthew 10
New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Sends Out the Twelve
10 Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; 3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
9 “Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts — 10 no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep. 11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
24 “The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!
26 “So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.[b] 30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law —
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[c]
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
40 “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 41 Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.”
muhammad, can you please tell where in that Chapter of the Holy Bible Jesus condone any type of violence like your EVIL FALSE prophet does?
No where does Jesus say to turn a sword on anyone. Just another brainwashed follower of the EVIL CULT of islam trying to twist the Scriptures around
Muhamamd;
What ever you may think of anything else, it does not change the hideous nature of islam; or the hideous nature of it’s followers. Your best bet is to leave islam behind before it takes you over completely and turns you into a murderous individual ready for suicidal death.
Allah U Phony
New Crusader if you don’t mind I may have to “borrow” Allah U Phony also!
I have spent many years now studying islam, from credidble sources,the Qur’an, the Hadith of Bukhari, the Reliance of the Traveler, and probably 35 or more books written by muslims who left islam for the Love of Jesus Christ. I have spent a lifetime studying The Holy Bible.
On Fridays we have Prayers Groups we started all over for Muslims we know who need to open their hearts to the Love of Jesus Christ! I have added you John Muhammed to our Prayer list! We will be Praying for the Holy Spirit to touch your heart and lead you away from the darkness and to the Love of Jesus!
Jesus Is The Way !!!!!
Amen!!
John;
“All in all, I am very sad that many people who read this website are sadly misinformed about Islam and Muslims in general. Ignorance breeds mistrust, mistrust breeds fear, and fear breeds hate.”
Could it be that you are ignorant and islam is sadly misinforming? After all if it is hate that is the end result of ignorance as you say – than that would go along way to explaining the behaviour of muslims.
Quote:
God does as God wishes, and it is not up to us to question His actions or His laws.
end quote.
You say God had no son.
It is you who questioned, and you who denied Christ.
Don’t tell us about defiance.
Islam wrote the book on defiance, cruelty, rape, mass murder and conquest.
You submit?
You submit to nothing!
Your Allah is a demon,
your prophet is false,
your culture is corrupt,
and you FIGHT EVERY PERSON NOT IN ISLAM!
You never submitted to anything in your life.
hey mo you know what breeds more distrust and fear?? knowing the truth about islam.
and the truth is islam demands the destruction or subjugation of all things unislamic. Ive seen the headlees bodies and the orgasmic muslims holding the head and knife. you cant fool me.
Jazakallhu Khair
Toliveonthe wind asks how people get lured into anything. Regarding Islam, some people have felt hypnotised. Others declare that they have been brainwashed and given drugs. Young uk girls have been turned into drug addicts after getting close to Islamists. Some Muslims are expert at putting pressure on girls to convert to Islam. They become experts because the financial rewards on earth and/or the heavenly rewards are tempting.
Where do they give these hate filled speeches? I would like to got to one!!
I found so many misunderstandings with this article. I go to this Mosque daily and I will state out all the misconceptions.
First of all Islam comes from the word Salam which means peace. I quote you “They have purposely left out the fact that Muslims are to fight and force this “peace” on non-Muslims, if they do not accept Islamic rule. Which will leave them as a subordinate to Islam. ”
Islam doesn’t force anyone to accept the religion. The time Islam was established was the same time that the Eastern Roman Empire was rising. Countries and Empires were constantly at war with each other for land and power. The first Quran verse that you pointed out is referring to those who are already at war whether it is for land or defending themselves from an invasion. Allah commanded Muslim to defend themselves against the non Muslim attackers. It’s the same concept when someone tells a child don’t let people push you around. That doesn’t mean the child becomes the bully, it means when a bully comes around, you stand up for yourself but some children misunderstand it and become the bullies themselves. When Muslims take over a land the prisoners of war are given either two options. The first is accepting Islam and live amongst us or they may keep their current faith and live amongst us but they must pay seasonal taxes. It doesn’t say anywhere to kill someone if they don’t accept the religion.
Going to your second point. The Jesus of Christianity is the same Jesus of Islam. Muslim believe that Jesus came down from Allah with a message which is to believe in One God alone. He came down with the Bible from God. 300 years after Jesus came groups of people who changed the Bible around for their own desire. The religion became corrupt. Jesus came down as a messenger of God and the people made him into God himself. They said He is God’s son as well as God himself and the Holy Spirit. The Trinity makes no logical sense what so ever. Let’s say this. God created everything from the Heavens to the Earth. So if Jesus was God, do you think that someone that created everything from nothing be manhandled and thrown onto a cross? It’s doesn’t make sense. The Christians of today are not the same Christians that Jesus taught. Jesus’ teachings were to believe and worship only one God and today the Christians believe in 3.
You said, “If “Allah” is so perfect, why were their Churches in the first place? Why not just have Mosques only from day one?! The reason is that Allah is not the God of Christianity.”
Allah sent down many revelations from the beginning of time. Allah says in the Quran Chapter 14: Verse 19 “Have you not seen that Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth? If He wills, He can do away with you and produce a new creation.” This deep translation of this verse is that Allah will replace a Nation with someone better. If a Nation is falling, then Allah will replace them. First came the Jews and they were replaced by the Christian and then the Christians were replaced by the Muslims. That is why there wasn’t a Mosque from the beginning.
You said in Islam it’s “O.K to lie.” This is false. Lying is one of the major sins. Allah says in Chapter 16: Verse 105 “It is only those who do not believe in the verses of Allah, who fabricate falsehood, and it is they who are liars.”
This verse is clearly saying that one is not a Believer if one is a liar. The hadith you brought gave only 3 exceptions where it is permissible to lie because lying in those scenario will only bring a greater good. It doesn’t say become a liar and constantly lie. That is what you are implying. Everything in life no matter what it may be has a few exceptions.
You said, “So if you lust for your neighbor’s wife, just take her as a captive of jihad. As I said the God of Christianity, is NOT the God of Islam. Keep trying…”
The women and children after Jihad are war booty. You can’t just take your neighbor’s wife and keep her a jihad captive because YOU ARE NOT IN JIHAD so i guess you keep trying…
You said, “Once again, if the God of Islam is so great, why didn’t he or she just have the Koran written from day one? If all the prophets were Muslims, how come no one bothered to tell them? Scratch your head on that one my Muslim readers….”
I already answered this point. It’s the same concept as why wasn’t Mosques built from the beginning.
You said, “Of course they leave out the fact that being “righteous” means to kill Jews to reach judgment day.”
This is another topic on its own. It doesn’t mean to kill Jews for no reason. This talks about when the Anti-Christ arrives and it is said that the Jews will be on the side of the Anti-Christ and will be at war against the Muslims.
You said, “I guess you have never heard of the Muslim invasions of Egypt and Persia. As far as your “no compulsion” bit, please refer to my response to #1.”
Again this goes back to colonization. Islam wasn’t spread by the sword. The Muslims would take over a land and then give the people a chance to turn Muslim or pay taxes.
As for the terrorist remark, The prophet says “I’ve been helped by terror (In the hearts of enemies).
This again goes back to Jihad and war for land. It doesn’t say I’ve been helped by terror (in the hearts of innocent people.) If you want to use that logic then anyone in history who tried to fright the enemy during a war would be considered a terrorist.
In regards to slavery. At that time slavery was a common practice. Even way after that era of history. If you forgot, America at one point had slaves. Here is the difference. Slaves belonging to Muslim had rights. The Muslims would treat them with the upmost respect. In the book of Bukhari 1:2:29, “Narrated Al-Ma’rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, “I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names.” The Prophet said to me, ‘O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.”
You said, “Actually they only tell their targets half the story here. Jihad has two meanings, the greater jihad is the inner struggle, but thee lesser jihad means to wage war against non-Muslims, signifying warfare to establish the religion”
This again goes back to the days of colonization. Waging war against non Muslims to take control of land. Not for no reason.
Regarding the hadith, “A woman, an ass and a dog disrupt the prayer.”
This doesn’t oppress women. This talks about a man during his prayer. How many men do you know can walk by a woman without them trying to get a little glimpse of her to see how she looks like. If a man is in prayer and a woman passes by, he might not be able to help himself and he might loose concentration and look at the woman thus breaking is prayer.
As for the last point, I have no knowledge of the Bible so I cannot speak of it. I hope this cleared some of the misconceptions people had. Just ask any questions you might have and I will try to my best abilities to answer them.
“When Muslims take over a land the prisoners of war are given either two options. The first is accepting Islam and live amongst us or they may keep their current faith and live amongst us but they must pay seasonal taxes.”
You just proved the first point made in the article.
Your second point is baseless, unsupportable and utter fiction.
“Muslim believe that Jesus came down from Allah with a message which is to believe in One God alone” “…Allah is not the God of Christianity.”
You have a contradiction here. Muslims spend a lot of time trying to convince the world that “allah” and “God” are the same – that “allah” is another name (Arabic) for “God”. You’re argument so far is utterly false. You have just proved the mulsim claim to be a lie. I matters not what you believe, what matters is what is supported by factual history. Jesus did not “bring the Bible down”, it is the chronicle of lives and actions taken over approximately 1500 years, recorded by numerous authors, culminating in the Christ event. So far you are way off base.
“This verse is clearly saying that one is not a Believer if one is a liar. The hadith you brought gave only 3 exceptions where it is permissible to lie because lying in those scenario will only bring a greater good.”
You have just established that is is OK to lie in Islam. Liar is a title earned by someone who lies. This makes you, mohammad, and allah liars. Only a fool would think that a lie can be an exception that would bring a greater good. That makes you, mohammad, and allah fools as well. If “one is not a believer if one is a liar”, then you have just admitted to apostasy,
“The women and children after Jihad are war booty.”
Only for your hedonistic madman would “Jihad” be justification for slavery and rape of children.
“This is another topic on its own. It doesn’t mean to kill Jews for no reason.”
Today’s Imams have already spoken for the killing of jews, christians and all non mulslims. According to their quran, being non muslim is all the reason needed.
“I have no knowledge of the Bible so I cannot speak of it. I hope this cleared some of the misconceptions people had.”
Clearly you are the one who is ignorant and under misconception. Your entire diatribe is chalk full of contradictions, and you freely admit to not knowing what you are talking about.
1. Don’t play word games with me. I said “Islamic rule”. Non-Muslims can be killed if they do not convert or pay jizya.
2. The Jesus of Islam is NOT the same as in Christianity. Under Islam he was not crucified.
3. Christians and Jews were not replaced, they still exist. But you did prove my point. Your so called Allah is not perfect.
4. Islam does allow lying. As proven here, and thanks for proving my point by agreeing with it. https://loganswarning.com/2009/12/15/islam-101-lying-is-permissible/
5. In regards to captives of war. OBVIOUSLY I meant during war. Thanks for trying to justify it though. You are only helping me turn more people against Islam.
6. Thanks for justifying the killing of Jews.
7. Islam has been spread by the sword, and you even admitted Muslims took over land. Why don’t you try and force jizya on America….
8. Mohammad admitted he was a terrorist, and you try and justify it by saying they were not innocent.
9. Slavery is STILL allowed under Islamic Law.
10. “This doesn’t oppress women. This talks about a man during his prayer. How many men do you know can walk by a woman without them trying to get a little glimpse of her to see how she looks like. If a man is in prayer and a woman passes by, he might not be able to help himself and he might loose concentration and look at the woman thus breaking is prayer.” Grow up.
11. You did not “clear up” anything. You only proved my point. Thank you!
“Waging war against non Muslims to take control of land. Not for no reason.”
I see, that makes it OK…
Judge Islam by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunal, and their “equality” comes right apart.
At least Americans had the sense to be ashamed of their wars of aggression.
I have yet to see one Muslim lament the loss of Christianity as the dominant religion and the oppression of indigenes in Syria and Egypt.
I have yet to see one Muslim regret the current campaign of conquest against the West.
( May the Peace and Blessing Be with You)… As Salaamu Wa liakum…It is good to see the dialog that is taken place…However, I am a little disappointed in how some who feel the need to address the topic at hand with very little knowledge and disrespect…As a person who was raised to love our CREATOR, and is a student of the Bible and the Qur’an… I can assure you that the Author(The Most High God) of the Original writings of both books which are instructional
manuscripts for how we should live our lives is also displeased…If one claims to follow the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) the Christ… one would have to admit that the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are the same…Remember when Jesus(PBUH) talk to the people even when he did not agree with what they were doing?… he did it with respect love and kindness…the only time that he showed anger was when he over turn the tables at the temple…and remember when Islam(Submitting to the One Who created all things) was first been established how the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was peaceable despite of the severe ill-treatment he received from the people…He did not retaliate… in fact there was a woman who every time she saw the Prophet(PBUH) she would cruse at him and throw things at him…When he found out that she died he was very upset that no one told him… He wanted to pay his respects…therefore a true Christian or a true Muslim would never insult another person’s way of life…Before opening your mouths make sure you have the facts…don’t just assume because you heard it from someone who turn against that way of life…or maybe you received some negative information from the media or read it from a news article that it is true…INVESTIGATE IT, INVESTIGATE IT, INVESTIGATE IT FOR YOURSELVES…AND LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELVES…that same source of information that you think is so trustworthy may one day say or print something about you that is not true May God Forbid…My advise is become students of the Most High GOD…Read the Bible,the Qur’an, and the Torah…IF GOD WILLS IT by your investigating what you read you might just find out how much in common we all have…Remember ALL IS ONE…May the Peace and Blessing Be With You All…(As Salaamu Wa liakum)
“a true Muslim would never insult another person’s way of life”.
No no, not at all, never: just call them “apes and pigs”, “unclean”, “the vilest of beasts”. No insult at all. A compliment. Just how every muslim likes to be thought of.
First let’s define what the word Muslim means…then define the word true…The realization would surprise you to know that just because a person call themselves a Muslim does not mean they truly practising being a Muslim…Just like there are some who call themselves Christians or Jews who does not practice the trueness of what a Christian or a Jew is…I pray that you do not allow the misinformation that others receive to limit your understanding…Not “every” Muslim is the Same…like not “every” Christian or Jew is the Same…