UPDATE: Islamic Friday Prayer Day at Wall Street ~ Christians to Attend Islamic Prayer!

Tonight we get an update on Friday’s Islamic Prayer day down at Occupy Wall Street. Unfortunately this information is coming from an interfaith group.

This Friday, October the 14th, 2011 at Occupy Wall Street
Time: 1:00pm-2:00pm

Location: Zuccotti (Liberty) Park on Broadway bewteen Cedar and Liberty
For more info: eccmajlisshura@gmail.com

Khutbah given by Imam Ayyub Abdul Baki of the Majlis Ashura’s Leadership Council’s Justice committee.

The Imam asks Muslims present to wear white for the occassion.“We will be feeding protestors and the hungry with the collaborative efforts of invited Muslim charities.”

Interfaith Center of NY | 475 Riverside Drive, Suite 540 | New York, NY 10115

Our enemies are not stupid. They see an opportunity with the Occupy Wall St protesters, and will use them as Islamic supporting puppets. Just feeding them will lend the impression that Islam is non-Muslim friendly, which is it not. I would not be surprised if some of the protesters go all the way and convert to Islam. At a minimum they will be Islam allies, which just makes our job harder. Imam Baki who will giving the khubtbah (sermon), is the same Imam I have on tape stating that Muslims brought Columbus here with a Muslim made map. So we already see he will say anything to try and get non-Muslims to accept Islam. Don’t be fooled!

Dressing in white makes the Muslims stand out, and appear like the angels they are not. Once again, don’t be fooled! To make matters even worse the interfaith group will be holding a press conference. Where you ask? At a Church of course!

Faith Leaders Sign-on Statement of Support
11 am Press Conference and 1 pm Jummah Prayer Friday, October 14
Ongoing Multi-Faith Services

Statement
THE PLAN FOR THIS STATEMENT – is to get signatures from many faith leaders, with over 100 faith leaders “signed on” by tomorrow: Friday, October 14th.

To sign on:
If you are ordained clergy, OR a lay leader of a faith community, please send an email to “occupyfaithnyc@gmail.com.” Then forward this email to other leaders who would also sign-on as a show of support.

Here’s the statement:
We, the people of faith communities throughout New York and the United States, stand with Occupy Wall Street, for here we see the promise of democracy renewed.

Our spiritual traditions are clear: the impoverishment of the many for the benefit of the few destroys us all. The cries of our people are clear: the American dream is compromised; the moveable middle is slipping away; and in our politics, all fairness is lost. The Soul of this Great Nation is in danger, threatened by the false idols.

So together we affirm the golden rule: treat our neighbors as ourselves. We commit ourselves to the restoration of justice in our economy, and compassion in our politics; that together we might behold a revolution of values for all our people. We ask all Americans to join us in this prayer, that once again our country might be a hope, and a dream, and a promise for all who reach its shores.

The rule of Islam is to dominate all other religions.

Koran verse 9:33
{ هُوَ ٱلَّذِيۤ أَرْسَلَ رَسُولَهُ بِٱلْهُدَىٰ وَدِينِ ٱلْحَقِّ لِيُظْهِرَهُ عَلَى ٱلدِّينِ كُلِّهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْمُشْرِكُونَ }

He it is Who has sent His Messenger, Muhammad (s), with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may manifest it, make it prevail, over every religion, all the religions which oppose it, even though the disbelievers be averse, to this.

Have these so called leaders of Christianity and Judaism ever read the Koran? Do they have the moral courage to ask Muslims the tough questions?

Press Conference
TOMORROW – (Friday, 10.14.11) Faith leaders will meet at Judson Memorial Church at 11:00am for a press conference to announce the multi-faith “statement of support” and then to march down (weather depending) to Zuccotti Park to support the Jummah Prayer Service at 1:00 pm .

Do these so called Christian and Jewish leaders know that Muslims are praying to a so called God, that calls for the destruction of Christianity, and Judaism? Or are they just afraid to face the truth? Either way they have failed their own religions, and are a huge part of the problem!

One of the Christian “leaders” in charge of this detrimental to America event is Rev. Michael Ellick. Please contact him at mellick23@gmail.com, and please voice your complaint with respect. Thank you!

Sidenote: Besides the press conference there is more to the Muslim/Leftist alliance plan. I will let you know more over the weekend. Have a good one fellow infidels.

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57 comments for “UPDATE: Islamic Friday Prayer Day at Wall Street ~ Christians to Attend Islamic Prayer!

  1. Robin Shadowes
    October 13, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Leif Eriksson came to America 500 years before Columbus. Without the help of any non-existing arselifter maps might I add. The only interesting arselifter map I can think of is that of the 15th century turkish admiral Piri Reis. What makes it intersting is the fact that it outlines Antarctica more than 200 years before it officially was outlined. To make it even more interesting is that his map shows what it looks like under all that ice. Something that wasn’t confirmed until the early 1950’s. However, the arselifter Piri Reis admits that his map is based on up to 20 older (now lost) maps dating back to at least Alexander the Great, if not longer. So who-ever drew the original map did it long before pislam was even invented. So the arselifter Piri reis is just another pislamic copy-cat throughout history. Although I cannot deny I’m grateful to him for having preserved such an anomalous map for us.

    • Tor
      October 14, 2011 at 2:03 am

      RIGHT !!

      • Robin Shadowes
        October 14, 2011 at 8:43 am

        Not that I for a minute believes the BS story of Columbus being assisted by arselifters and their fantastic maps. According to arselifters they have invented everything from the wheel to the hydron collider. Funny that only nine arselifters has gotten the Nobel Prize then and only two of them in the scientific categories.

  2. desertscout
    October 14, 2011 at 12:27 am

    So if I show up can I recite this prayer???

    http://judaism.about.com/od/prayersforisrael/f/israelprayer.htm

    Our Father in Heaven, Rock and Redeemer of Israel, bless the State of Israel, the first manifestation of the approach of our redemption. Shield it with Your lovingkindness, envelop it in Your peace, and bestow Your light and truth upon its leaders, ministers, and advisors, and grace them with Your good counsel. Strengthen the hands of those who defend our holy land, grant them deliverance, and adorn them in a mantle of victory. Ordain peace in the land and grant its inhabitants eternal happiness. Lead them, swiftly and upright, to Your city Zion and to Jerusalem, the abode of Your Name, as is written in the Torah of Your servant Moses: “Even if your outcasts are at the ends of the world, from there the Lord your God will gather you, from there He will fetch you. And the Lord your God will bring you to the land that your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it; and He will make you more prosperous and more numerous than your fathers.” Draw our hearts together to revere and venerate Your name and to observe all the precepts of Your Torah, and send us quickly the Messiah son of David, agent of Your vindication, to redeem those who await Your deliverance.
    Manifest yourself in the splendor of Your boldness before the eyes of all inhabitants of Your world, and may everyone endowed with a soul affirm that the Lord, God of Israel, is king and his dominion is absolute. Amen forevermore.

    • October 14, 2011 at 5:18 am

      D.S.- The T.V. Cameras will be there, the “Interfaith Dawah” will be in full force, so today you would be allowed to say The Prayer for Israel, today you would be allowed to recite Psalm 83.

      Of course you would probably be accused of trying to incite the poor misunderstood muslims who are there to promote “peace and harmony.” Here they are trying to do something “nice for humanity” and the “Evil Jew came to start trouble”. I can hear the majority of the Media putting that spin on it. When it comes to islam the majority of the media REFUSES to see or report the truth about the EVIL CULT of islam!

      TRUE Christian and Jewish Leaders in the NYC area should be there today with members of their Churches and Synagogues to counter the islamic presence, NOT supporting the islamic dahwah!

  3. desertscout
    October 14, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Or perhaps to sing or recite this Psalm.

    Psalm 83
    God Implored to Confound His Enemies.
    A Song, a Psalm of Asaph.
    1 O God, do not remain quiet;
    Do not be silent and, O God, do not be still.
    2 For behold, Your enemies make an uproar,
    And those who hate You have exalted themselves.
    3 They make shrewd plans against Your people,
    And conspire together against Your treasured ones.
    4 They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, That the name of Israel be remembered no more.”
    5 For they have conspired together with one mind;
    Against You they make a covenant:
    6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites;
    7 Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
    8 Assyria also has joined with them;
    They have become a help to the children of Lot.
    Selah.
    9 Deal with them as with Midian,
    As with Sisera and Jabin at the torrent of Kishon,
    10 Who were destroyed at En-dor,
    Who became as dung for the ground.
    11 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb
    And all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
    12 Who said, “Let us possess for ourselves
    The pastures of God.”
    13 O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
    Like chaff before the wind.
    14 Like fire that burns the forest
    And like a flame that sets the mountains on fire,
    15 So pursue them with Your tempest
    And terrify them with Your storm.
    16 Fill their faces with dishonor,
    That they may seek Your name, O LORD.
    17 Let them be ashamed and dismayed forever,
    And let them be humiliated and perish,
    18 That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth.

    • admin
      October 14, 2011 at 12:44 am

      I wish a large number of Christians would show up and pray out loud.

      • October 14, 2011 at 2:11 am

        I am continually stunned that so-called Christians would align themselves with this supremecy death cult.
        Jesus warned over and over and over about false prophets. These “Christians” are NO CHRISTIANS AT ALL. There have always been phony Christians who have made the Faith look bad, but these people are outright aiding and abetting the enemy – Satan.
        Their sin is TREMENDOUS! No matter how many times I hear about stuff like this, my outrage never abates.
        And never will!
        …But that’s a GOOD thing. Nothing wrong with righteous anger.
        In fact, let us never stop being righteously angry until islam is tossed of out of America on it’s collective bum.
        Islam shelters under ‘religion’ but we all know that the quran is a fascist political manifesto for arabs. They don’t want everyone to convert, after all, they NEED the jizyah so their lazy and ignorant lifestyle of oppressing others can continue.
        Dear Lord, how I hate islam!

        • admin
          October 14, 2011 at 2:19 am

          I glad you are mad, it shows you care. It shows you are willing to stand up for what you believe in. We need more of that across the West.

        • eib
          October 14, 2011 at 7:32 am

          It’s good to see your comments again julietsm. When I reflect on my actual feelings about Islam and its adherents, all I can say is that they are ones of very, very cold contempt.
          I hold their religion in contempt not because it exists, but because of its pretensions to being 1. Abrahamic and 2. monotheistic.
          I also hold in deep contempt their denial of Christ, and of more than one millennium of prophecy that foretold of the coming of God’s Anointed and of the redemption of humanity from sin.
          Lastly, I hold in very deep contempt their glorification of war, conquest, rape, and genocide.
          Yes, I do mean genocide in every sense of the word– cultural, physical, religious.
          Look at the attacks on the so-called “protected people of the book” in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Iran, in Egypt and all over Africa.
          If this is not genocide, I don’t know what is.
          Look at the suppression of Western culture in Europe, its birthplace.
          If that’s not genocide, I don’t know what is.
          Entire cultures are being destroyed.
          So while I hold Islam in contempt, and charge its adherents with these crimes, in no way do I damn them.
          The way I see it, they’re already more than halfway to hell here on earth while they live.
          What I hate, truly, is that they are dragging us to hell with them.

          • Abu Rashid
            October 15, 2011 at 5:18 am

            Come on you gotta be kidding me. Just a few of your claims which completely contradict the reality.

            1) The idea that Muslims commit genocide. If we look at almost every single genocide ever committed, we find at the end of the line Christians (or some other Western created ideology) holding the weapons of genocide. Where should we begin? The countless genocides of the Romans? The crusades and inquisitions of the Christians? The Nazi holocaust? The various Communist genocides? The numerous British-caused famines in India and Africa during the colonial period? The French obliteration of 1/3 of the population of algeria? The list goes on, and on, and on, and on… and then you have the audacity to come here and claim this tripe about Islam? Shame on you for your absolute and utter ignorance of reality.

            2) Islam is not Abrahamic nor Monotheistic. Quite rich coming from people who worship a human being instead of God. Islam is THE only true monotheistic faith that exists in the world. All others have lost themselves in some form of idolatry or another, whether it be worshipping a man, or statues, or a race, or a clergy etc.

            Honestly I can’t believe the ignorance and sheer stupidity of some of the stuff posted here. Have you people ever even ventured outside your own communities? doesn’t sound like it.

            A.R.

          • admin
            October 15, 2011 at 5:34 am

            The reality is that Muslims have been killing and driving non-Muslims out of non-Islamic countries for centuries. The Crusades were the result of 100’s of years of Muslim aggression, and Nazism shares a profound hatred of Jews with Islam. Do you really think that pointing at Communism or any actions of the past are going to make me want to live under Islamic Law? If so, I suggest you think again.

            I have known plenty of Muslims, and knowing them does not change what Islam is.

          • admin
            October 15, 2011 at 5:35 am

            For some reason you forgot to mention the Islamic conquests of Egypt and Persia. You also forgot to mention the slaughter of 10’s of millions of Hindus in the Hindu Kush. How come?

          • eib
            October 15, 2011 at 8:09 am

            Quote:
            1) The idea that Muslims commit genocide.
            end

            Muslims do indeed commit genocide.
            The Nazi holocaust used the model of Ataturk’s genocides of the Armenians and Greeks.

            Second, the demise of Christian communities in countries that were majority Christian in the 7th Century.

            Third, the sack of Constantinople.

            Fourth, the razzias on Famagusta and their aftermath.

            Fifth, Muslims slavery on the African continent and Muslim coordination with the Atlantic slave trade, 1400-1888.

            Sixth, the destruction of Christianity and Judaism in Afghanistan.

            Seventh, the attacks on Copts and Coptic worship are a cultural and religious genocide.
            There is no other way to put it.

            Eighth, the attacks by Mohammed himself and his armies against Arab polytheists, Christians and Jews on the Arab Peninsula were all genocidal.

            Ninth,
            and most egregious, the Muslim genocide against the Hindus– the attempts to destroy Hindu communities and permanently suppress the worship of Hinduism on the Indian subcontinent and Hindu Kush.

            When the Spanish conquered the Americas, they made some conditions to repress those they had conquered:
            1. no one could ride a horse
            2. no one could carry a sword.

            Sound familiar?
            Those were the Muslim measures taken to repress the Spanish Indigenes for 700 years!

            Islam is profane.
            Muslim culture is corrupt.
            Mohammed is a false prophet.
            Allah is a spirit of the world.
            The ambition for a worldwide Ummah is GENOCIDAL!
            And if you are not destroying other cultures today, certainly you will be tomorrow.
            It is only a matter of time.

          • eib
            October 15, 2011 at 8:17 am

            Quote:
            I have known plenty of Muslims, and knowing them does not change what Islam is.
            end

            VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
            Every Muslim, and every scatterbrained liberal I’ve ever heard who made the case for a tolerant Islam did so on the thinnest of evidence.
            For instance, they say “but I KNOW Muslims, I have a Muslim friend or several.”
            And then they say, “but they were more tolerant of religious minorities than were the medieval Christians.”
            The evidence for Muslim intolerance and cruelty is much more numerous and more substantive, and the chief source for it is the Muslim scriptures and history themselves.
            It is these things in their most in-depth manifestations, that refute the case for Muslim tolerance.
            The liberal case is oikophobic and hypocritical, because they claim to want to bring history out of the hands of the victors and have it told by the oppressed.
            The Hindus of the medieval subcontinent, the dark underside of the Mughal regimes are things they never mention.
            HYPOCRISY.
            The Christians of what was the Byzantine Empire had a story to tell. Liberals suppressed it.
            HYPOCRISY!
            And, one more thing.
            If Muslim rule was so free and tolerant of the infidel, then why did the Spanish Reconquista happen?
            To maintain a conflict and win it over a 700 year time span takes a lot of focus.
            Being oppressed and humiliated every day of one’s life is just the impetus needed to sustain such a fight.
            And the Spaniards sustained it and won.
            The brutality of the Muslim rule was shown in the brutality of the Conquistadores.
            They were not cruel and zealous because they were Westerners.
            They were cruel and zealous because they had been repressed by Muslim zealots!

        • October 25, 2011 at 10:12 am

          hope you hate jewish talmud too.Full of hate and blasphemies. Not to mension killing of palestinians

          • admin
            October 25, 2011 at 11:46 am

            Jews are not on a worldwide campaign attempting to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all. Muslims, and Israel has the right to defend their country. Do you want to kill Jews to reach judgment day?

      • emmi
        October 20, 2011 at 1:05 am

        Female Christians with their dogs, preferably.

  4. VanZorge
    October 14, 2011 at 2:43 am

    i would bet that most of the scum down at zuccotti park are not christians. they, like most of the rabid lefties and commies, despise christianity. however, they will probably embrace the muzzies beacuse the enemy of my enemy is my friend, AND the muzzies will be feeding them.
    useful idiots.

  5. October 14, 2011 at 8:09 am

    What a huge lie that Muslim Imam told with his Muslim mouth. Don’t forget that Muslims are the biggest liars in the world.

    There is no way that Columbus used a Muslim map to arrive at and establish a New World. The false prophet Muhammad taught that the earth was flat, so Muslims wouldn’t dare venture too far out to establish anything, or to show a map covering long distances. Muslims, sold on the false prophet Muhammad, wouldn’t even think of making a map covering long distances. Can you believe that many Muslims still think that the earth is flat? It’s true. That’s how much faith backward Muslims have on their stupid false prophet Muhammad.

    Muslims, all from backward Third World Countries, like to take credit for everything that is advanced. If Islam is still around two or three hundred years from now, the lying Muslims will be telling the world that Muslims invented the telephone, radio, airplane, computers, television, cars, and every advanced objects that you see. They’re excellent liars.

    Muslims, from backward Muslim Third World Countries didn’t invent anything except, the recent invention, the Suicide Bomber that no one with a human brain will buy. Only Muslims are stupid enough to become Suicide Bombers.

    • Robin Shadowes
      October 14, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      Mahound even told his followers the BS story of flying to the moon on the magic horse Buraq. Splitting the moon in two halves with his sword and then repairing it again. If he had really been on the moon he would have known the earth isn’t flat at all. The more irrelevant question is if he made it up or was stoned out of his skull and hallucinated it all.

  6. October 14, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Admin, I don’t think that it will make our job harder if liberal losers that are protesting will join forces with the Muslims. I’ve known for a long time that Muslims and liberals think alike, all evil that comes from the great abyss, i.e., hell. Notice that Muslims always go to losers to seek new recruits in order to swell their ranks. That’s why Muslims can easily recruit criminals from our jails and prisons. They’re really the same scum. So no sweat. In the end, you’ll see that we’ll become the victors.

  7. October 14, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    The replies from the dear people touched my heart deeply. Also thanking Reverend Dan for his encouraging words. I will keep up the good fight. In the end we’ll become the Victors. As people of the book, I read to the end of the book to the last page, Evenso-

    • farid wardi
      October 15, 2011 at 8:02 am

      waste of time… which is already wasted.

      • eib
        October 15, 2011 at 8:21 am

        Your religion is profane.
        Your prophet is false.
        Your deity is a demon.
        Your culture is corrupt.
        You have no future, and so you look back to a past of conquest.
        You speak from the spirit of conquest.
        And you will die in the spirit of conquest– never knowing one minute’s peace.

    • eib
      October 15, 2011 at 8:20 am

      But it will indeed take the kind of focus the Spaniards had in the Reconquista.
      I say, RECONQUISTA!

  8. Abu Rashid
    October 18, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Regarding the Crusades: Firstly not all Crusades were against the Muslim world, several of them were against Pagan Europeans, and even some against fellow Christians not deemed Christian enough. And regardless of the claimed motives for the crusades against the Muslim world, they were despicable acts of barbarism the like of which has not been witnessed since.

    The issue of European Pagans then leads us to the question of what happened to pre-Christian Europeans when Christianity arrived? The ridiculous claim is made above that Muslims wiped out all other civilisations they encountered, so why is it we find Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc. all throughout the lands Muslims came to live in? Yet when we look at Europe, we find all pre-Christian cultures were completely eradicated. When European Christians went to the Americas and other places we find they eradicated many civilisations there too.

    Regarding Hindus: These claims are just baseless. India was under Islamic rule for many centuries, and Hindus, Sikhs, Jains etc. flourished there (unlike non-Christians in Europe). But when the British arrived in India, that’s when things took a turn for the worse. Scores of millions of people died from famines, whilst the British were exporting food from the famine stricken regions back to Mother England. In fact the claims about a Muslim genocide of Hindus was concocted during the British rule, to try and sow the seeds of discord amongst the Indians, so they’d be easier to rule.

    Regarding Nazism: Trying to associate a purely Western ideology with Islam is just nonsensical. This is all part of the denial you people are so steeped in, that you attempt to project your own evils into others, in order to absolve yourselves of their past sins.

    And the claims Muslims & Nazis share a hatred for Jews is just as fanciful. For most of Islam & Christianity’s shared history, Jews much preferred to live in the Muslim world. When Christians took over al-Andalus, so many Jews had to flee, that the Islamic capital of the time (Constantinople) became 1/3 full of Jewish refugees. It’s no accident that the oldest Synagogue in Europe is located in Spain, because at the time it was built, Spain was an Islamic land, al-Andalus.

    Gunnin’ for the truth,
    A.R.

    • admin
      October 18, 2011 at 9:04 am

      Firstly bringing up the Crusades is not going to get me to say it is OK that Muslims are on a worldwide campaign, trying to subjugate all under a barbaric set of laws.

      Regarding Hindus: 10’s of millions of them were slaughtered by Muslims in the name of Islam. Hindu Kush.

      Regarding other religions. Muslims have killed or driven out 100’s of millions of non-Muslims from their lands. Afghanistan, Egypt, and Indonesia are just some examples. But that is to be expected, as Mohammad was all about driving people out of their homeland.

      Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366:
      It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

      Regarding Nazism: Islam does share a profound hatred of Jews with Nazism. Here are some examples.

      http://loganswarning.com/2011/03/15/islam-nazism-the-ideologies-of-hate/

      The truth is that non-Muslims are concerned with today, and nothing you bring up from the past is going to change that.

      • Abu Rashid
        October 18, 2011 at 1:00 pm

        Hindu Kush = Hindu slaughter, is a folk etymology. There’s no evidence whatsoever of large scale murdering of Hindus, this claim never appears until centuries after it supposedly happened, and comes not from Hindu or Muslim historians, but from an American.

        Now are you going to explain to me why there’s still hundreds of millions of Hindus alive today yet no Druids or Aztecs?

        Or you just going to ignore it as you ignore any facts not convenient to your revisionist nonsense?

        All the lands you mentioned still have plenty of non-Muslims in them, and always have, please show me the non-Christians in Europe who survived the arrival of your religion?? Where are they??? why is their churches, synagogues and temples all over those lands, yet not a single functioning lace fo worship for any pre-Christian Europeans??? We both know the answer, although I suspect you’ll still remain in denial, it is the lot of the self-deceiver.

        Nazism is a Western Christian ideology please stop trying to “pass the buck” by associating it with Islam. Nazism, Communism, Anarchism etc. were all created by Judeo-Christian “thinkers”, and they have been responsible for more deaths and misery than probably any other ideologies in the history of mankind.

        Man up and take responsibility instead of consistently passing the buck, and wildly claiming Islam is responsible for ills the West has created.
        A.R.

        • admin
          October 18, 2011 at 1:10 pm

          Right, all because you say so. Your word means nothing on this site. In the past Muslims kept some non-Muslims around to collect jizya.

          Outside of Israel, Muslims have taken over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, and large portions of Africa, Europe, etc. Now Muslims are pushing to take over the rest of the West, and their actions are well documented on this site. I provided proof from the Islamic scriptures that Islam and Nazism share a profound hatred of Jews.

          I never said the West was perfect and I am “manning up”, that is why I will continue to expose the threat of Islam. Got it?

          • Abu Rashid
            October 18, 2011 at 2:16 pm

            The jizya was the least burdensome tax in existence in that time, hence the reason many Christian regions welcomed the advance of Islamic civilisation, and often preferred it to living under their fellow Christians, where they’d be taxed heavier, and also face persecution due to not being of the same sect as the rulers. Those who speak against jizya usually know little or nothing about its reality, and merely see “infidel tax”, the reality was quite different.

            Islam did not take over anything, it spread just like all world religions spread, unlike your religion though it didn’t eradicate completely everything in its path. It’s truly laughable to see Christians trying to bring Islam to account for spreading, when your own religion spread with such ferocity nothing escaped its advances.

            And I don’t know why you say “Outside of Israel”, are you under the delusion “Israel” existed throughout history? It was established in the 20th. century by booting Muslims AND Christians out of their homes. In the late 1800’s, Jews were no more than 2% of the population of Palestine, and it was through the kinds of things you’re wrongly accusing Islam of, that it was turned into the Jewish state that occupies Palestine today. The population was overrun by a large influx of illegal Jewish immigrants who then formed terrorist militias, began bombing buildings and raiding villages, and eventually expelled most of the population. There was no “Israel” prior to that throughout any of the Islamic period. Even prior to Islam arriving in Palestine, the land had been Byzantine Christian Greeks and Ghassanid Christian Arabs and before that Roman for several centuries. In fact when the Muslims arrived, one thing the Christians made them promise when handing over the keys to Jerusalem was not to allow the Jews in.

            The idea that Muslims are taking over the West is just a delusion. You are seriously suffering from some kind of mental disorder. In case you hadn’t noticed, the Western armies are occupying Kabul, Baghdad, Mogadishu etc. not the other way ’round. And they’ve been continually bombing, overthrowing, attacking and occupying Muslim countries for decades, if not centuries. The idea Muslims are actually taking over is just ludicrous, and only someone with a serious psychosis could even think as such.

            A.R.

          • admin
            October 18, 2011 at 3:41 pm

            JIzya still exists in Sharia, and it was in exchange for less rights. Once again you bringing up the past does not make me want to live under Islam.
            I guess you missed school the day of the lessons of the Islamic conquests of Egypt and Persian. I am not religious, so don’t assume things.
            I say outside of Israel, because it is not an Islamic country.

            This site clearly documents how the West is changing to suit Islam, and the articles and videos override your words. I want to end those wars, and them being there does not change that Muslims are trying to take over the West. Like I said pointing at other circumstances will not get me to back off. As for the insults and circular conversation we are done here.

        • admin
          October 18, 2011 at 1:12 pm

          You can point to the past all you want, but doing so is not going to make any of the infidels here say those past actions make it OK that Islam takes over today.

        • admin
          October 18, 2011 at 1:13 pm

          I do not approve of those other ideologies, so there is no point in bringing them up. You will not change the focus of this site.

        • emmi
          October 20, 2011 at 1:19 am

          On the subject of slaughter, Hindus are kindly people most of whom do not eat meat, so they do not slaughter animals. Muslims, on the other hand, have it built into their ideology that bloodshed is good. They produce halal meat by the cruellest of methods and take machetes to the indigenous population of every country in the world so that they can force their ideology on them. I am speaking in October 2011 not hundreds of years ago. Stop being brainwashed by ignorant imams and think for yourself.

  9. Abu Rashid
    October 18, 2011 at 8:55 am

    eib,

    Quite ironic that you talk about hatred of Jews, and only a few posts later you are shouting Reconquista. How many Jews were murdered, pillaged, forced to convert, expelled during the Reconquista?

    Sorry I forgot you’re not interested in actual history, only your own distorted fantasy of it.

    A.R.

    • October 18, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      Abu Rashid,

      Your revisionist history means NOTHING here. The Christians murdered everyday at the hands of the islamic antichrist is what matters to me. You know, the ones murdered in islamic countries everyday, in the present tense, simply for being Christians. The forced conversions, the rapes of Christian women simply because they are Christians so islamists think they can get away with doing what they wish.

      islam is nothing more than a vile EVIL CULT. The Beast of Revelations, nothing more nothing less. Save your lies for someone who may believe them, they will get you nowhere here.

      • Abu Rashid
        October 18, 2011 at 2:34 pm

        Come on who’s subscribing to revisionism here? Sounds like you’ve been reading a little too much propaganda.

        Sounds more like you’re buying into the lies of Copts who try to prevent their women from marrying Muslims. It’s been shown in probably all of these cases that the women went of their own free will. I’ve seen countless videos of them stating this. I also happen to have spent some time in Egypt, and have met Copts who’ve converted to Islam. This process of conversion has steadily been going on since Islam arrived. Unlike Christianity Islam did not force the people to convert to the new religion, they let them embrace it at their own speed. Most Muslim lands today took hundreds of years to slowly move to Islam, as Islam left the people to make their own decisions, unlike Christianity which just eradicated anyone who dared reject it and remain heathen.

        A.R.

        • admin
          October 18, 2011 at 3:46 pm

          Under Islamic Law other religions are do not have the same freedoms as Islam. This is proven here.

          http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/

          Once again pointing to the past will not get any of the infidels to back off. You are wasting your time.

        • admin
          October 19, 2011 at 4:41 am

          Islam has forced non-Muslims to live under Islamic rule. Of course you do not mention this fact. Your deception has failed, I will continue to rally more non-Muslims against Islam.

      • Abu Rashid
        October 18, 2011 at 2:38 pm

        Btw, how about the Christians in Africa who murder and rape women daily (LRA et al) and kidnap children to use as child soldiers and sex slaves? All the while claiming legitimacy from the Bible (where this kind of stuff is quite rife mind you)? Does that make Christianity an evil cult? Even if a few bad Muslims did commit crimes like you describe, how is it any different from the Christians who do the same and worse?

        Keeping in mind that most of these cases in Egypt are just propaganda. In many cases the Mubarak government actually handed the women back over to their Coptic families who then murdered them. Thankfully since the revolution, and the removal of the Western puppet, this kind of inhumanity no longer goes on.

        • October 18, 2011 at 2:56 pm

          Again your lies do no good here. The LRA is no more Christian than you are. You are not dealing with fools here. I have been working with helping Muslims find Christ for 5 years now. One of my best friends from highschool has been a Christian Missionary to Muslims for 26 years, and another Christian Missionary friend for many years who was a Missionary to Muslims for about 12 years both in the West Bank and in Africa, another who was born a Muslim in the West Bank and is now a Christian Missionary in Egypt, and another who was born in Egypt was an Imam before finding Jesus. Your lies mean nothing.

          You are merely a pawn of the antichrist.

        • admin
          October 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm

          The Coptics in Egypt have been persecuted under Islam for centuries, and the same behavior is still happening today.

          http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/16/world/la-fg-egypt-violence-20110516

          The Bible is made up of stories of those times, while Koran verse 33:21 states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times. Slight difference.

          • donna
            October 23, 2011 at 5:17 am

            the Bible is the Word of God, the quran was inspired by a demon

        • admin
          October 19, 2011 at 5:41 am

          I condemn that group but they are not Christians, and they are no threat to America. Once again, your attempt to change the focus of this site has failed. Nothing you say will change the focus of this site.

      • emmi
        October 20, 2011 at 1:25 am

        There are certainly plenty of Christian and non-Christian women who are not Muslim being raped here in Europe by Muslims, some in gangs.
        These Muslims believe that it is acceptable as their religion allows it. Islam also allows underage sex, so Muslims are raping girls of 12 in Britain. In Europe most rapes are carried out by Muslims.Girls are dyeing their hair black as some Muslims see a fair haired girl and think ‘infidel, she’s my property.’

    • eib
      October 23, 2011 at 7:50 am

      Everything the Spaniards did in the Reconquista was inspired by their enemies, the Muslims.
      There was not one prohibition that they did not lay on the Christian apostate, the Muslim and the Jew that the Muslim had not laid upon them.
      You’re just bitter because you had to swallow what you forced others to swallow for CENTURIES!

    • eib
      October 23, 2011 at 7:52 am

      Oh, and again–
      RECONQUISTA!
      Show some sportsmanship– why don’t you?

    • admin
      October 19, 2011 at 6:52 am

      Thanks for spreading the word!

    • November 23, 2011 at 12:56 am

      well ask anyone who converted to islam, were they oppressed ?

      • eib
        November 23, 2011 at 6:29 am

        Islam, like Marxism, appeals peculiarly to the downtrodden, the poor, the people who believe themselves to be wronged by history, the present. To become a Muslim, you have to have a chip on your shoulder, you have to sense that the world is unjust, and then, you have to want to right it by way of violence.
        Islam provides an ideology of revolution through religious warfare.
        In many of the Marxist conflicts of the last century, people were confronted with the choice– adopt the ideology or be killed.
        Islam is no different.

      • eib
        November 23, 2011 at 6:31 am

        So in answer to your question, yes.
        I think that if we asked a good number of apostate Westerners or others why they converted, they would say that they were oppressed very much.
        They wanted to do something about their situation.
        And they became Muslims in order right things by the sword.
        Remember that the sword is indeed “the key to paradise” according to your holy man, Khomeini.

  10. donna
    October 23, 2011 at 5:15 am

    Christians SHOULD NOT PRAY with muslims, one cannot pray to God and the devil at the same time………allah is not the same God from the Bible…….he is an idol……a demon god invented in the mind of a demented pedophile.

    • eib
      November 23, 2011 at 6:34 am

      Any Christian who lives in Muslim lands would say the same.
      In spite of the Muslim claims that they are the purest monotheists, the god they worship is indeed not the God of the Testaments, certainly not the God of the Hebrews.
      They claim the 10 Commandments, but do not adhere to them in any formal sense.
      They claim a lot of things.
      It is up to us what they will claim and what they will keep.
      Just as it is up to us how much of their word we shall believe.

    • eib
      November 23, 2011 at 6:35 am

      I also wanted to bring this up– Christians living in Muslim countries are forbidden to read the Muslim scriptures.
      They are forbidden to learn about Islam in Christian terms.
      In spite of this, Christians living in Muslim lands are not Muslims.
      1,400 years and they did not convert all of a sudden en masse.
      And they believe that the Muslim allah is not holy, the Muslim religion is profane.
      And they are right.

  11. eib
    November 23, 2011 at 6:36 am

    If Islam is perfect, then why is it resisted?

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