“Taliban” Gangsta Rapper Vinnie Paz Runs From a Debate on Islam….
Back on Twitter this afternoon, I decided to strike up a conversation with Philadelphia’s Muslim gangsta rapper Vinnie Paz.
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@vinnie_paz Hey Vinnie, did you know Mohammad was a rapist and slave owner? Is that what you respect?
6 hours ago
Vinnie’s response was the usual:
vinnie_paz Vinnie Paz
@LogansWarning an islamophobe. THAT’S a shocker.
Aug 07, 2:07 PM via Twitter for BlackBerry®
After reading Vinnie’s empty comment, I sent two comments right back to him.
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@vinnie_paz In other words you cannot refute my statement. Islam calls for my dominance. Why should I respect that?
4 hours ago
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@vinnie_paz You don’t have the moral courage to condemn Mohammad for being a rapist and slave owner, do you?
4 hours ago
In Vinnie’s next response, you will see he can do no better than make some things up.
vinnie_paz Vinnie Paz
@LogansWarning you’re a Christian wacko. Aisha wasn’t 9 years old, Mary was 11 years old when Jesus was conceived. you’re an ignorant racist
Aug 07, 2:35 PM via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Quickly I fired off two more responses to the rapper.
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@vinnie_paz I am not religious. You have ducked my comments about Mohammad. What race is Islam? Come on Vin, PROVE my “ignorance”.
4 hours ago
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@vinnie_paz Aisha was 9. From Islamic scholar Sahih Bukari. usc.edu/schools/colleg… Do you even know who Bukhari is?
4 hours ago
Vinnie never responded. So I went to his Twitter page, and saw that he had blocked me from following him. How gangsta!
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@vinnie_paz You made it so I cannot follow you. What a cop out!
3 hours ago
Vinny you are obviously standing up for something you know little about. Well here is some friendy advice. If Sharia ever dominates America, your gangsta rapping days are over! Smarten up!
Here is one of Paz’s latest, with his buddy “O’Drama Vin Laden”.
Vinnie Paz (JMT) ft Genocide- Conspiracy Of Silence
(WARNING STRONG GRAPHIC LANGUAGE) (An irresponsible pro-Islamic terrorism video)
Hey Vinnie! One of the lines in that song is “bringing the truth”. Well you ran from the truth, Mr. Taliban rapper!
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peace123, was Obama cloned in a test tube? He must have been, you just said Vinnie speaks the truth. Being correct on the war doesn’t make you right on all else. You seem to appreciate Paz because he speaks against nation building (but then calls himself a war monger, hah) so what? That automatically makes him a poet, the greatest. a lyrical genius and truth speaker? Im sure you didnt read the posts I wrote in the past so I’ll repeat and ask you since you’re a fan, don’t you think its contradictory and downright stupid to call yourself a communist revolutionary BUT yet support Ron Paul as Paz does? Let me say this, fuck wars, fuck nation building, fuck the priests who rape little children and their Vatican, AND fuck Islam. Now, can you admit on your end Islam is as a warped religion as the Christianity you seem to rail against. Do you realize we are as against the “leaders” of ours bombing innocent people as we are Islam. Good god, peanut brain, pay closer attention will ya? And answer the questions. don’t lol anymore like a little… What was it, you said? Bitch? Sorry for so much cussing, the purveyor of this site surely doesnt need me to keep coming to his defense, but my beef isn’t so much arguing against Islam (he does that well enough) as much as it is waking people up to this moron Vinnie Paz, as I’m sure ya’ll have noticed.
P.S. The only lol I’m getting from this is that peace is in your name, but you refuse to denounce the very anti-peaceful religion and artist you’re defending.
Thanks John!
this cracker is attacking a hip-hop artist? haha his life is more worth than any faggot on here. You’re going to die a nobody while he’s a legend in underground rap. dumb paranoid crackers
There is more to life than money. Vin is a Taliban supporter. Do you support child abuse as well?
He never said he supported the Taliban you fucking dumbass. Who the fuck cares if he believes in Islam. Millions of people do. They believe in the same God as all of us. So your assuming eveyone that is Islam supports child abuse? How can you be that light headed?
Hey Mr. Friendly!
The song is clearly in support of the savages of the Taliban, and Islam calls for the dominance over non-Muslims, child marriages, plundering, and the rape of sex slaves. That is why I care. The God of Islam calls for the dominance of Muslims over Christians. Therefore, it is not the same God. Educate yourself before you attempt to debate. Supporting Islam, supports child marriage. Only the sick support that.
The song is Not clearly in support of of the Taliban. See how that works.
“Taliban rap”….please stick to reality. Thanks!
Your reality is Vin Ladins reality, you wish you were him.
Actually no, and it is says a lot that you will not condemn Islam for the vile actions that I mentioned it allows. Moral coward.
what are these dirtythings doing in the western countries afterall? you said sharia is good ok? use sharia and make your countries great. we developed basically on christian foundation.with sharia,why so much povert6y in your countries? you run for safty only to decide how we should run our life? you have a beatifull ideal on how to develop a country,then why not make your countries great?
Vinnie is white he’s Italian f
He’s fucking italian he’s white u idiot
Hey genius,
I can see that you and “Josh” are the same person. Smarten up.
Whooo, thank God, I’m safe from your attack on “paranoid crackers”, Mr. haha, cause I’m neither paranoid (although funny coming from a guy who listens to a guy whose lyrics are laced with conspiracy theories and paranoid delusions) nor white (Cuban/Boricua). Apparently you think rappers are gods because WE MUSN’T ATTACK A HIP-HOP ARTIST! All these cats wouldn’t know (and thus far don’t know) squat about politics and socio-economic circumstances once their sitting on a couch while being interviewed on said topics, I don’t care how many bars of “conscious hip-hop” you put out and how many Noam Chomsky books you read. And God Bless America I guess cause you can have a discography full of mediocre tracks and still be considered a Hip-Hop legend. Stoupe has saved this man from himself by producing such flawless beats, don’t get that twisted. You, Mr. haha, and others on here keep attacking those of us who criticize Paz, yet you never fully address the core of our critique on Paz. Like rapper, like fans.
P.S. Mr. haha, are you among the worthless faggots “on here”?
You do realize at the end of the day he is an artist\entertainer. He makes a lot of conceptual themed songs- Just as the admin was quickly to tell others if you dont like what he wrote about paz then why bother commenting- should go for the same to the admin.
Dear Admin,
if you dont like his music then dont listen to him. Go promote something you like no something you hate or disagree with.
Hi Destro,
Paz is poisoning the minds of some of America’s youth with his support of enemies of America. I will continue to call him out on it.
1st Amendment rights will always be above your opinion in this matter, but keep the fight on, that will only help PAZ one of the most influential rappers of all time, bring his music to more listeners.
Me stating that Islam is a threat to non-Muslims is not an opinion, it is a fact I can easily prove using the Islamic scriptures. Have you read them?
Islam calls for the dominance over non-Muslims, while allowing child marriage and slavery. The Taliban are savages who abuse women. Yet you want Paz to continue to promote the two to the youth of America. That says a lot about you….
Your fixation for PAZ isn’t uncommon, many fans follow him, youre just another extreme fanatic obsessed with him,something you dont have control of.
Actually I have not bothered with him until now in over a year. Reality is not your strong point, and it seems you want to be his knight in shining armor…
I have to question the judgement of anyone working with or for Pamela Geller just as much as I question the judgement of a rapper elevating jihad.
I love how the admin has responded to almost all comments on here except the one that invoked Pam geller
You love it? She is a friend. So what? The issue here is Islam. If you plan on getting into a long winded conversation about anything else you are mistaken. Have a nice day.
Anyone who knows of Geller and her tactics knows why so what, I’ll leave that at that then. BTW, have some bravery to show what you look like. Logan?
If I were a coward I would not be so outspoken against Islam, and Geller has thousands of supporters. So do not act like you speak for everyone. As for me, you attack the messenger because you cannot refute the message.
If those were his responses, then he really doesn’t know anything about Islam, but it I get there is such thing as freedom of speak, but I don’t think your comments about Islam are right, it’s not just another religion, Islam is the way to heaven, well in my belief, you may have your own beliefs, but I don’t get why you have to target a rap artist? it doesn’t make sense to me, and why vinnie paz? he’s just an underground artist? why don’t you attack the mainstream artists who target kids minds, making them think that calling women bitches is alright, or making them think that money/drugs/alcohol are the only things to life. I just can’t comprehend why you would attack a guy who “embraces” Islam, he never converted… that being said, he can still be learning about the Islam, he doesn’t have to know everything about it to convert.
Hi Shaun,
According to several links here, he is a Muslim.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sa=X&ei=uAAOUJ7rOKrd6wHPxoCQCQ&ved=0CFAQBSgA&q=vinnie+paz+a+Muslim&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f9ddf48a51e9c4a3&biw=1366&bih=667
Shaun,
because this isn’t a website about taking on misogynist rappers who call girls bitches and hoes. It’s about Islam, surely you get that, your point is invalid that we can’t take on Paz because we’re not taking on, say, Ludacris. We can discuss that elsewhere. And you know I’m sick of people saying he, you, we, or they don’t “get” Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. I, and many of us, get it just fine, thank you. I’m not a militant atheist who throws a fit whenever I see or hear anything religious but I’m also not a Huckabee or Pat Robertson Christian. I try to live under New Testament morals and beliefs, personally, I’m not forcing that on me or anyone for that matter. It’s just a manner of living like trying to live healthy. I hate all imposers of religion or atheism, period. Every religion has faults. In fact I play a fun game where whenever a Christian criticizes Islam, I throw back at them something bad from the holy bible and vice versa. It all deserves criticism IMO.
Life Is Good by Nas is out
You are just…UGH I really wish I could come up with a word. So, so ignorant, yet so fixed on their opinion…pathetic, pathetic. I suggest perhaps showing yourself/taking action and preaching instead of hiding behind the internet. Someone will put you in your place, idiot.
Of course you do not point out the “ignorance”. Your empty talking point proves nothing, and your hope for violence shows just how weak your argument is. If you would have actually looked through the site you would see I do come out, and I have gotten numerous threats. So save the accusation of cowardice for someone else.
The author of this little piece of garbage is nothing more than a trouble maker.
Your initial question to him was very dickish and childish. The type of question someone like you could only ask over the internet. I’ll goes as far as to say your a cowardly little punk. In person you might/probably would get popped in the mouth.
I could care less about this site or being afraid of any Muslim.
I’m more afraid of bullshit “news” sites spreading lies to all of these poor stupid people we have walking around us all-day.
All I’m saying is any “reporter” worth half his salt would take this non-story down or atleast change the title to VINNIE PAZ DIDN’T TAKE THE BAIT”
Clown Shoes.
How about you lose the anger and you point out the “lies”? He sure did “take the bait”, and then ran when he could not figure out how to defend his beliefs. You are obviously “offended” by this article. Well free speech stands over your feeelllliiiinnnnngggggsssssssssssssssss.
Says the one using the name “your mummy”….
To whoever owns this site, you said you do come out, my friend I can not find one picture of you at an event of ANY kind speaking the kinds of things you say here, if you have come out as you say, share a picture of yourself, please. A YouTube video, anything. OR, do you may come out, but still stay behind the scenes? Otherwise, yeah sorry, it does look cowardice and it does look like you’re hiding behind the anonymity of a WordPress looking website. But may I ask if it’s fair to say (do correct me) that you are a Conservative (big C) Christian? You do come across as one, which is as annoying as any fundamentalist Muslim (to me) and any two-bit moronic rapper. I believe somewhere you said you have no religion, you do come across as a Christian, however. Please, do correct me.
I am not religious, and you need to lose the obsession with me. If you do not like what I have to say or how I do things, just do not come here. It is that simple.
Box cutta pazi all day. Fuck boys like yourself just try to bring others down to promote yourself. Find a new hobby. I mean I’d also be a little distraught knowing people listen to Paz on a daily basis whereas lames like yourself are just another passerby-er. You are of no significance. Your thoughts of Paz are of no significance. If I was him I would stop responding to you as well cause you aren’t worth the time of day. Paz got fans all over the planet on his back.. Anyone who can comprehend what real hip hop consists of is a Paz fan. Real recognize real. One.
If I am not worth the time why did you comment? He stopped responding because he was about to get buried in the debate. On top of that he supports the women abusing low lives of the Taliban. YOUR hero.
BOTTOM LINE, and I will write it in all caps so everyone understands, MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE FOLLOW RELIGION WITHOUT FIRST ANALYZING ITS ATROCITIES, WRONGS, CONTRADICTIONS, AND DOWNRIGHT MISTREATMENT OF OTHER HUMANS BEINGS. PAZ IS ONE OF THOSE. DONE. Can we end this? If you people aren’t going to address the actual issue of this article (?), don’t even bother to continue this pseudo-conversation.
hey tv zombie just go kill yourself its the best for u believe jesus said so he just text me
You seem intelligent….
islam is not violence, Muhammad was not a rapist. do the knowledge and study the history, and also, study ALL religions before u point fingers to Islam.
Salam.
Mohammad raped sex slaves Koran verse 33:50. No other religion is on a worldwide jihad, so the focus of this site will remain on Islam.
That’s not at all what verse 33:50 states. Not sure how you make this interpretation, but then again, I don’t understand how any islamophobes think. Peace
Lol! Of course you do not prove it.
This admin is such a miliant athiest who hides behind a pc hiding on a rapper then thinks his some top shit after paz doesn’t reply. You no life get a real hobby lmao
Really, point out just ONE post where I promote militant Atheists. I speak out against them selfishly trying to change America to suit their views. Next time know what you are talking about.
Let me know when you want to grow up and actually debate the issue of Islam.
@Admin you are a joke! You are probally some 35 year old guy with no social life or a life all together… you obviously have too much time on you’re hands from the view of this website and what you say on here as well! ahahahahahaha!!! While I gaurantee you watch too much Fox News and Youtube Videos too… how about this, pick up a book and get some REAL and proper knowledge you cowardly pathetic moronic keyboard warrior… you are a souless devil in disguise with no morals that’s why you say such things and would love to see society in the corrupt and ignorant ways you seek. You are an obvious racist Athiest idiot with half a brain. So get a life and some education before you come back with more ignorant misleading lies and deceiving propoganda you foolish fraud. ahahahahahahahahahaha!!! I am done with this I have better things to do unlike you!
That is the second time you have left vague comments. One your next post point out the “ignorant misleading lies and deceiving propaganda”. Or we are done. Your word alone does not cut it.
Ding ding ding you are just a hater !!
So you are OK with lying, pedophilia, and slavery?
Lying, pedophilia and slavery?… Really?!?!
Please show me where you found this of that you think allows it in Islam! Show me now!
That’s right you can’t you are a lying fraud! All of which is prohibited you said by the way.
Show me one text of which is show’s what you say.
Islam allows lying.
http://loganswarning.com/2009/12/15/islam-101-lying-is-permissible/
Islam allows pedophilia.
http://loganswarning.com/2011/12/06/mohammad-the-poisoned-mind-of-prophet-pervert-penetrates-america/
Koran verses 4:24, 4:25, and 33:50 allow the rape of sex slaves.
Obviously your word means nothing.
Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub’i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: “It Is Allowed to Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is postponed. The Prophet Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married ‘Aisha When She Was Six and Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine”
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
No! You are a moron and a devil!
Internet tough guys, talking smack, ignorance, and hate anonymously
I am the one who is speaking out against Islam, so save the coward accusation. Why don’t you point out the “ignorance”?
BTW…..Good cowardly duck on condemning Islam for the actions I pointed out that it allows.
Yes, you have described yourself to the tee!
1400 years of islamic history indicates it to be of satanic origin.Why are the profane responders defending Islam when it is not defendable.
Muhammad (PUBH) was NOT a rapist AT ALL… did he marry a young girl name Aisha? Yes. But it’s not how you think it was of how the Western World is and how you think it is of (sex) because it’s not… that’s not what they did or why they married, he married her to be a protector of her that’s it and it was really imporatant you have to read more into it. Research and stop taking in and trying to push what someone else told you and research and understand for yourself instead of being a ignorant moronic person. Marriage tradition back then was different and how they did things was different and even today there it’s not how you think it to be so stop with the perverted mind set thinking.
Ahh, another brainwashed follower of the satanic cult of islam. You must be either brainwashed or a pedophile to defend muhammads EVIL actions. It wasn’t JUST aisha it was also CHILD sex slaves, read the hadith.
Oh sure please enlightment me with you’re ignorance hahahahaha!…. so which Hadith is it now? Whih part and show me the verses of which this was said (with NO edited texts either)… Come on now.
Sex with Prepubescent Slave-Girls
Ibn Hanbal and a jurist contemporary with him, Ishaq b. Rahwayh (d. 853), discuss men having sexual relations with a prepubescent slave girl and a mature slave woman. They say:
Sufyan said, and he was one of those among the scholars… whose opinion was sought, that when a man bought a young female slave, one considered too young for sexual intercourse, that it was not necessary for her to wait [a period of months or menstruations]. He said, “What I prefer when a man buys a female slave too young for intercourse is that her new owner should neither kiss her nor have sexual contact with her, until he has waited a period of [waiting during new ownership or monthly cycle] on her behalf, in accordance with the sunna [example of Muhammad] [concerning female slaves].”
Ahmad [Hanbal] said, “What Sufyan said is excellent.”
Ishaq said, “There is no harm in his kissing her and having sexual contact with her, because she is among those whom one need not fear having to return to her previous owner because of pregnancy. Further we see no harm in kissing and having sexual contact with a mature female slave before the period of [waiting during new ownership or monthly cycle] is over, in accordance with the hadith of Ibn Umar.”[35]
Abd Allah records what his father Ibn Hanbal says about sex with a prepubescent slave girl. As noted above, it is permitted.
I asked my father about a female slave. “If a man has her complete a [waiting period during her new ownership or menstruation] when she is young, before she has started menstruating, then has intercourse with her, then wants to sell her before she completes another [waiting period during her new ownership or menstruation] how long should the [waiting period during her new ownership or menstruation] be, since she does not menstruate?” He said, “It should be three months, because pregnancy does not become evident in fewer than three months.”[36]
Dan,
Another Muslim screaming “lies” from the rooftops, yet never proves it. If I could not honestly defend my beliefs I would be embarrassed.
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Muhammad (PUBH) was NOT a rapist AT ALL… did he marry a young girl name Aisha? Yes.
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A girl too young to give any kind of consent.
Period.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet, and a rapist of children.
As well as a warlord and mass murderer.
You claim to worship God.
You curse God and his Son five times every day.
You claim to revere Jesus, yet you murder his followers.
Your religion is profane, false, and damnatory.
Abandon hope, all who submit.
For the rest of us, we may die, but at least we die only once!
By the way… Slavery was common practice back then and slaves at that times were not like the concept of slaves that we have today.
Slavery is man-stealing.
It was evil.
It is evil.
And it is evil as Muslims practice it.
I’m guessing you guys are some brainwashed followers of the CATHOLIC CULT.
To add where I left off… In islam, marriage is between adults and at the time of marriage Aisha was an adult since she had reached puberty. In islam puberty is the criteria of adulthood.
Sooooo do you guys have any more rediculously dumb questions?
Sure.
How does it feel to know that you worship a demon?
You have submitted to the enemy of all humanity, not its creator.
Typical brainwashed follower of the pedophile prophet
The Koran helpfully stipulates the waiting period before re-marriage for a divorced wife who has not yet menstruated:
“….their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” (Koran 65:4)
You have come to the wrong site to pull the puberty taqiyya.
Quote Unknown: “ In islam, marriage is between adults”.
So you will be going to Iran to put them right?
Iran’s Civil Code Article 1041 stipulates that the age of marriage for a female is nine lunar years (eight years nine months).
No “dumb questions” here.
You Islamaphobes sound more dumber and dumber everytime you open you’re filthy mouths…
Why should I want to live under Islamic rule?
Because it’s a moral system that’s why!
…but seriously stop alredy with this conversation you dumb Nazi. I wouldn’t doubt to see you at a “MinuteMen” protest. Now get lost loser.
Those with morals do not approve of child marriage.
I condemn Nazism, it is similar to Islam. Both disgraceful ideologies that the world would be better off without.
Muslims served Hitler with more zeal than Christians did.
And as for the religiously uncommitted– they make the best converts to Islam and Nazism.
Take one ignorant and unchurched Westerner, or one indifferent Southern Baptist, and you’ve got a time bomb on your hands.
The religiously indifferent and unknowing have no idea of the dangers they allow to exist unchallenged.
In spite of your non-theistic beliefs, admin, you are far from religiously indifferent.
You care about what religions are and what they do.
Islam is the truth and nobody cares about what you foolish people have to say. You’ll see you dumb down Fox News and CNN watching tools.
Obviously you care, or you would not be commenting, and I do not watch either one of those new shows.
I honestly don’t care, I am just commenting to set the record straight and shut you up already.
And sureeeeeee you don’t…
You will NEVER shut me up. Is that clear enough for you?
You have not refuted a thing, you have “set nothing straight”.
You don’t care?
Get real.
You’re posting here like a mad dog. Of course you care!
This is your version of JIHAD!
He or she sure ran quickly from a debate on Islam. Just another Islamic con artist.
No you are just waisting my time! You have nothing to back up what you claim! Show me some written text now of what you say! Go ahead and show me this, I am still here for the moment you fool.
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Go ahead and show me this, I am still here for the moment you fool.
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This is your version of JIHAD!!!
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
Your good is evil.
Your drink is poison.
Your food is death.
…And @LogansWarning you need to pick up a book you foolish, ignorant and moronic human being. You are just another foolish false teaching devil with no knowledge. Go back to looking at Youtube Videos and watching CNN. Shame on you.
Come back so I can embarrass you in a debate on Islam….
Go ahead and embarrass me!!! I a listening… ahahahahahaha! Share with me of what you have! Come on now! ahahahahahaha!!! Debate me.
Islam allow the rape of pows, slavery, plundering, and lying. Your turn….
Realllllllllyyyyyyyy?.. Can you show me where you got this from and exact text? No you can’t! because it is prohibited in Islam.
By the way everyone, Vinnie Paz does speak truth… is it always 100% of the truth? No because simply not everyone has the full truth 100% truth but the fact is he as well us are looking for it and actually care to take the time to share and discuss what we have and know so give the man a break, he’s not perfect nor are you. He has room for correction and understanding which is what we see him doing each year, he’s getting smart and more knowledge.
Yet you say nothing specific. Too funny.
Listen I don’t need to explain anything to you now! Especially after what I seen you say on here…so I am done with you and your ignorant rants I am not commenting anymore as you want me to! You are a foolish, weak minded agent provocateur! That’s it! You are a false teacher and a deceiver. Both you and this website you own are a failure! Go somewhere and do something productive now you drama queen.
In other words you cannot back up your claims. Just another game playing slave to Islam.
You people don’t even know or follow God… you all follow and speak for Satan you deceiving, misleading and disinformation pushing devils in disguise!!! Get lost!!!
lol! It is the same thing over and over. Of course you do not point out the “misleading and disinformation”.
Child marriage is not limited to “back then” in Islam: it is current and widespread. Iran’s Civil Code Article 1041 stipulates that the age of marriage for a female is nine lunar years (eight years nine months). This is exactly based on the example of Mohammed who consummated marriage with Aisha, as she herself recorded, when she was nine, and had been playing on a swing with her playmates (Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 ). In Bangladesh riots and burning of government buildings have been threatened if any change were to be made to the marriage age of nine (www.JihadWatch.com 22 Apr 2011).
The Koran helpfully stipulates the waiting period before re-marriage for a divorced wife who has not yet menstruated (three months, Koran 65:4). And we all well know that for anyone who denies any verse in the Koran the death penalty is stipulated.
Aisha, the child wife (at six) of Mohammed had the charming job of rinsing the semen off his robes: sometimes he went to prayers with the water spots still wet, she said (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229, and so on, see
http://muslimhadith.blogspot.co.uk/2008/05/mohammad-had-lots-of-semen-on-his.html)
Slavery is not limited to “back then”. Islam has never abolished slavery: it is practised in Yemen, Mali, Mauritania, and Saudi Arabia. Sharia law – which cannot be changed – regulates it in some detail. A black slave, conveniently castrated, was offered for sale recently on Facebook by a Saudi (www.FrontPageMag.com 30 Nov 2012). It is authentic Islam.
Unknown, you make me sad. Do you even realize you are telling a person, “debate me”, and yet you dodge all his questions? And this goes beyond Fox News and CNN (for whatever f-ing reason you even brought that up). I shouldn’t even say goes beyond, it is just an irrelevant point to make. And on your subject of picking up books, maybe you should read the Koran more thoroughly and all its supplements, as I have. And I hope you are not an American, educated in an American school because boy… Who was your English and/or lit. teacher? And if you are an American living all the lifestyles and cultures of a Westerner (even remotely), try going to some of these Middle Eastern countries and see if they don’t kill you, figuratively or literally, faster than you just killed the English language.
P.S. Vinnie Paz is not getting smarter. And that can only mean one thing from either your end or his. Go figure.
Point out which questions I dodged, and I have read the Koran, and Sahih Ahadith. So next time know what you are talking about. It is very telling that you have not begun to refute my points on Islam. Just the usual empty vague meaningless comments.
Wo, wo, buddy go back and read well, I was talking to Unknown, that comment was not in the slightest directed at you. Hence, me starting with “Unknown,”. Yeah, I’ve read the Sahih and Ahadith as well, as well as every other holy book out there of the many religions, that’s what I was trying to tell Unknown. Anyway, yeah I hope that’s cleared up.
Hi!
OK, it wasn’t clear who it was to. Anyway, UNKNOWN has pulled a Muslim Houdini on us. Keep on speaking out!
You people are sickening on here and have entirely way too much time on your hands and need a new hobby! You are scum filling these streets full of currption, hatred and evil. It’s people like you who keep the people dumb, immoral and out of control spewing nothing but pure garbage. You preach ignorance and lies. You claim things but have no evidence, proof or atleast one exact statement/text coming from the books that you so called read backing it up. ALL THINGS YOU SAID ARE PROHIBITED IN ISLAM! We don’t practice what you say we do, how about you go to a Mosque if you are that confused because they may be able to help you understand some otherwise I don’t know what to do. I am not going to sit around on here waisting important time with some racist and athiest know nothings. I am done now, you need serious help.
I am not confused, and I continually post verses to back up my points on Islam. The readers can see that. What race is Islam?
What race is Islam?
Even if every Muslim was white, Islam would remain a threat to the West.
Again, what race is Islam?
Again, what race is Islam?
This is your Jihad, right?
Slave, let me make this clear to you. Once again you have screamed “ignorance”. PROVE IT. Game time is over. ADMIN.
We could call it the Time-Wasting Jihad.
It consists of the usual old phonograph records.
HEY ADMID HOW ABOUT YOU STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS AND TRYING TO POSE UNDER MY NAME ACTING AS ME ON HERE.
Here is a clue slave, I did not try to pose as you. You are the last person I would want to be, and I CLEARLY signed the comment ADMIN. You made claims and did not back them up. Like I said game time is over.
How about you stop ducking the fact that I am challenging you to a radio debate, where you cannot play your childish games?
Yes, the obsessed freak from the UK is back. Who can do no better than make unsubstantiated claims then run when called on them. Then when you call for proof, you run when it is presented. You to lie to try and cover for your sick views.
I’m laughing at your loss of control, your rage, your stupidity.
You are a savage.
You are not civilized.
We abolished slavery in 1865.
You never did.
America rules!
This is your Jihad, right?
ISLAM IS THE TRUTH!
MUHAMMAD IS A TRUE PROPHET SENT BY GOD AS IS JESUS, MOSES AND ECT. (PBUT)
SHARIAH IS LAW OF GOD!!!
ALLAH IS GOD!
Thanks for proving my point. You are pro-sharia. A rape and pedophile supporter. The lowest of the low.
Slave, I will not chase you around here as you scream “lies” and “ignorance”, and then never prove it. Your childish games are a waste of my time. Debate me on Tom Trento’s radio show, where you cannot run and hide from direct questions. Other than that, we are done.
Islam has no tradition of debating. The very young are told “Do not ask Questions’ (Logan 27 Feb 2010, Koran 5:101) and beaten to make sure (Undercover Mosque Channel 4). This makes them pliant “slaves of Allah”. They are not expected (or even permitted) to know what the Arabic means. All they must do is recite it. The result is that most non-Arabic muslims do not know what the Koran says, or what the traditions, the Hadiths, say. When anyone asks they cannot cope. They swiftly go into ballistic mode and become unable to write anything without multiple exclamation marks.
Patience is needed. Many, when they do manage to read a translation, “see the light”.
These are her true colors.
Then she whines like the pathetic slave she is when she is not shown respect.
Wrong again. I am muslim, constantly ask questions, and have always done so. I don’t recognize myself or any of my many muslim friends in your descriptions. Do you meet many muslims in real life? Do you have any friends who follow Islam as their religion? I don’t think you do, but sure go ahead and write all this nonsense if it makes you feel important.
Yes a slave. I know Muslims and knowing them does not change what Islam is. Instead of wasting time, why don’t you refute my points on Islam?
BTW, you are part of a worldwide cult of child marriage and rape. You should be embarrassed.
Of course you know muslims
Other than that you hate Islam with all your hart, I haven’t been able to understand what your points are.
Islam is not about child marriage and rape. I don’t know how to respond to such a false accusation rather than saying that it is completely and utterly false. I could claim that all Americans, French, Danes etc are devils, but I know that that’s not the case. Just because I make a crazy statement and stick to it, doesn’t mean that it’s true.
There is no age minimum for marriage in Islam. That is child marriage, and I have posted the verses that OK the rape of captives of war, over and over.
In other words you cannot refute my points.
Yes there is an age limit. Muslims don’t marry “kids”. That might have been the case in the Muslim world a thousand years ago. But guess what, it happened in the Christian world as well. That doesn’t make Christianity a pedophile religion, does it?
I haven’t read your comment about war, what is your opinion on that?
Prove it on your next post, or we are done. Your word means nothing here.
I see, a six year old is not a kid to you, and Islam still allows this. You are one sick bastard.
Video: Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub’i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: “It Is Allowed to Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is postponed. The Prophet Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married ‘Aisha When She Was Six and Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine”
http://loganswarning.com/2011/12/06/mohammad-the-poisoned-mind-of-prophet-pervert-penetrates-america/
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it happened in the Christian world
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First of all, you’d better give me a concrete historical example of this, and the child has to be six.
Second, there is absolutely nothing in church canon law, orthodox or Catholic, that allows such marriages.
There were no prelates that encouraged them and held them up as holy.
Because Mohammed did this crime, raped a nine-year-old, it is believed by Muslims to be holy and such conduct is supposed to compose a virtuous life.
What has light to do with darkness? Nothing.
If you sympathetically worship the thug and his revelation, that’s what you’ll become, that’s what you’ll value.
To ask questions is not to submit.
If you are in possession of final truth, then what is the point of asking about anything?
Your demon demands submission, and that is silent, unthinking, automatic.
The easier road– the wide path that leads to destruction.
Muslims glorify rage and violence.
Without violence, no slavery is possible. A free society is one in which violence is not tolerated.
This UNKNOWN is behaving exactly as I thought he would, and his predictability, arrogance and rage are all what will undo the Ummah.
The tighter the circles they run in, the more enraged they are, the less they harm they will able to do effectively.
Because of Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, and Martin Luther King, who were not Muslims, we are a free nation.
620,000 Americans died to free 4 million slaves.
Muslims want to enslave people; they have never given even one drop of blood for the freedom of others.
Islam is profane.
Indeed.
I thought Americans captured slaves from Africa, not set them free. But maybe that was so long ago that it doesn’t apply anymore?
Islam and the Prophet is about equality. Read about it properly and you will understand that the Prophet’s reforms were about equality. He set slaves free and worked adamantly to abolish slavery. This was approx. 1100 years before the US abolished slavery.
You want to talk about how unequal Islam (real Islam, not culture) is in relation to women? Before Islam women were inherited as property. The Prophet brought an end to this as well. The list of deeds goes on and on, but since you have already made up your mind about how terrible Islam is, there is really no point in arguing.
I condemn all slavery, and Islam still allows it. So do not act like you care about slavery.
Mohammad raped sex slaves, that is not equality.
Mohammad also hit Aisha. (Sahih Ahadith).
Save the con for someone else.
The next time you duck one of my responses and continue to post unproven statements, will be the end of the conversation. Is that clear enough for you slave?
Eib,
What we have here is another Muslim who is too cowardly too condemn Islam for the same actions they condemn non-Muslims for. I would be embarrassed to be part of the ummah.
How do I duck a response? Usually people try to duck questions. Your whole way of conducting an discussion is very amusing. Like I said, you are repeating the rape and pedophile mantra but it’s not going to become true irrespective of how many times you say or write it.
I am happy to see that you are against slavery and condemn it. Can you please provide any data that supports your claim that Islam is pro-slavery.
I already have, Koran verses 4:24, 4:25, and 33:50. This also backs my claim up.
http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/
Go waste someone else’s time with your games.
The people of the Southern Sudan would be happy to testify as to the existence of the Muslim slave trade.
So would the Mauritainians.
In the recent Islamist takeover of Mali, black Africans were singled out for the harshest of Sharia punishments.
Muslims enslaved black Africans and brought them to Arabia.
Once there, they were not privileged, and I notice that they did not darken the skin of succeeding generations of Arabs.
They died as eunuchs, housekeepers and childless whores.
They were forced to give up the religions and cultures of their birth.
Tell me how the Muslim slave trade was more humane that the Atlantic slave trade? The survival and well-being rates in Arab lands for Muslim and non-Muslim servants remain alarming. All slavery is made and maintained by violence.
It follows that the Ummah, wherever it is, produces a violent, racist, hateful culture.
Again, they cherry-pick the past to the objective of libel!
There were and are no abolitionists in Islam.
There are no pacifists in Islam.
In the West and in Christianity, such people arose and became powerful.
In Islam, they never arose because all inquiry, particularly about society, history and culture, is silenced.
Westerners preserve the past.
Muslims destroy it.
Simple misinformed David “I thought Americans captured slaves from Africa,”
No, dear. Racist Arab Muslim raiders captured slaves inland and sold them at the coast. They are still doing so today.
ISLAM AUTHORISES CHILD MARRIAGE
Iran’s Civil Code Article 1041 stipulates that the age of marriage for a female is nine lunar years (eight years nine months). This is exactly based on the example of Mohammed who consummated marriage with Aisha, as she herself recorded, when she was nine, and had been playing on a swing with her playmates (Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234). In Bangladesh riots and burning of government buildings have been threatened if any change were to be made to the marriage age of nine (www.JihadWatch.com 22 Apr 2011). In Pakistan police raided a wedding where the bride was aged five.
Thanks buddy!
Islam is an ideology of land-conquest and people-subjugation by force, not of inner spiritual betterment. Any who leave have to be killed. If that is a religion then I am a banana.
Next person after me to pick this silly conversation back up is gay.
I’m sure all you Vinnie Paz fans would be glad to know that one of the songs liked on YouTube by one of the Boston Marathon bombers was End of Days by Vinnie Paz.
How did you find that out?
I’m surprised you didn’t know. CNN reported it last night, showing his (Paz’s) video of the song, in fact. I’m sure more will get reported on this eventually, but a YouTube account (old, before the bombings) with the man’s actual full name was found on YouTube with many favorited videos of Jihadi type material, one was Vinnie Paz End of Days.
I do not watch too much of that channel.
Thanks though!
So what.
muhamed is the lukiest person ever to excaped justice in the world history, he killed more than chalse tayrol and adolf hitler conbined,how could i call such a one a prophet? muhamed brought nothing but death to the world. if it is posible to have a killer as a prophet, then i go for hitler.hezbolla,ppla,boko haram,alqueda, pakistan,mali,nothern nigeria,somalia, sudan,syria,libya, ect celebrated names in islam.
Why does he owe you a debate or any of his time just for your satisfaction? A lot of his fans could careless of is religion, they listen to him for the music not for what he worships.
This is about someone calling him out for his detrimental message to America.
His constitutional right says he is permitted to, especially in the content of entertainment. Your issues is with your self, and that’s reality.
HAH! Constitutional right? Buddy, do you realize if anything, the way Paz’s lyrics are interpreted he doesn’t necessarily approve of our laws and rights (granted it’s hard to tell, since he hypocritically speaks out of both sides of his mouth). You know I’m 25 years old, back when I was 21 I visited the country of my father’s origin, Spain, for about two weeks. I HATED it there. I was sort of at odds with its politics and culture. So you know what? I left. Back home to the U.S. I did not speak ill of the nation WHILE in the nation, I certainly didn’t publicize my distaste for the country in rap songs, I left. Period. That’s what Paz does. He visits other nations, yes (to go on tour), I ask myself why the HELL does he not stay in one of those places? Gain citizenship somehow if this country so displeases you. I’ll remind you this is the man who said “Get me outta here, I’d rather fucking stay in Iran” in one of his songs. For the zillionth time, WHO IS STOPPING HIM? BTW destro, you are in serious need of some grammar lessons.
Your life story doesn’t dictate how others should conduct their right to free speech and that’s the bottom line.