Norway’s Anders Behring Breivik, a “Christian Fundie”? I DON’T Think so!

When the news broke about Norway’s Anders Behring Breivik (ABB) horrific acts of mass murder, a few things came to mind. The first was a feeling of anger at this lowlife. Secondly, a feeling of empathy for the victims and their families and friends.  Finally the third thing that crossed my mind, was that Muslims and their leftist supporters were going to use this against the anti-Islam movement. A movement that is certainly called for. Tonight I will clear up a few misconceptions of these tragic events.

First of all ABB was not a religious man.

“I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic.”

And “myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God.”

So those who have labeled him a “Christian fundamentalist” are spreading false information. He was not quoting the Bible to justify his actions.

Secondly I would like to counter what our “friends” of Muslims Against Crusades (MAC) are trying to sell the public.

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Christian Terror Strikes Norway

Bullets. Bombs. Murder. Terrorism. Christian?

The Oslo bombing and subsequent gun massacre on Friday 22nd July 2011, has left gaping questions in the heart of Western Europe. Anders Behring Breivik, a 32 year old Norwegian man, carried out what has been described as Norway’s worst attack since World War II, and contrary to (initial) popular opinion, is a Christian.

Sorry MAC, the quotes by ABB above prove this IslamoCON to be false.

The media have been quick to condemn the atrocity and exhaust the use of terms such as ‘right-wing’, ‘bigot’, ‘extremism’ to the point of cliché, however what they have failed to point out is the disturbing undercurrent of anti-Muslim sentiment in the psyche of the European community.

Muslims are clearly trying to take over Europe, so the anti-Islam sentiment is well deserved. You have brought it upon yourselves. Because you refuse to keep your religion to yourselves.

There is a verse in the so called Islamic holy book that I hope stands true.

Koran verse 002.120
YUSUFALI: Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.

Personally I do not mind if someone wants to be an Atheist. But hopefully Jews and Christians will continue to fight Islam! All within the law, of course.

However twisted some may view Anders Behring Breivik’s actions, he undoubtedly represents the feelings and emotions of a growing population, who have bought into the (false) idea that ‘Islam is the enemy’; the sustained media campaign to demonise Islam has surreptitiously led Europe to boiling point, and behind all of the superficial condemnation of extremist right-wing organisations lies a sinister commonality of unrelenting hatred towards the Islamic way of life.

MAC, you guys are going to have to do much better than that. Your scriptures state that Islam is the enemy of non-Muslims.

Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Koran verse 049.007
YUSUFALI: And know that among you is Allah’s Messenger: were he, in many matters, to follow your (wishes), ye would certainly fall into misfortune: But Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you Unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion: such indeed are those who walk in righteousness;-

Back to MAC:

In truth, the cold blooded murder of Anders’ own fellow countrymen and women appears to be the result of a disagreement over styles and means; European governments have long expressed their hatred of the Shari’ah and Anders Behring Breivik just showed his own albeit, radical interpretation.

In truth, European governments have not done much to stop the spread of Islam. Pray to Allah that someone like me doesn’t take charge over there. Your entire organization would be charged with treason.

In conclusion, Islam is indeed the answer to all of mankind’s problems and the hidden jewel that European leaders do not want their citizens to discover and however visionary Anders Behring Breivik may have thought his plan was in galvanising a 21st century Knights Templar, he almost certainly forgot that for every Richard, Allah (God), will always send a Salahuddin.

In conlusion, Europe would not be heading towards a very possible civil war if it were not for Muslim immigration and Islam.

The attacks by Anders Behring Breivik were horrific and cowardly, and he needs to pay the price. But he was not instructed by Bible scriptures to do what he did. On the other hand the Islamic terrorists that struck America on 911 were commanded from the Koran.

Mohamed Atta’s Final Instructions to Terrorists

One of the few – and certainly the most remarkable and troubling – glimpses into the minds and motives of the men who wrought the slaughter of 11 September is a four-page document, written in Arabic, found in the baggage of the suspected ringleader behind the carnage, Mohamed Atta. For those who say that Islamic terrorists have distorted the Quran or used verses out of context, this document shows that their motivations are purely and centrally from the Quran. Of the quotations included in the letter, 24 are from the Quran and four from reliable hadith.

THE LAST NIGHT 1) Making an oath to die and renew your intentions.
Shave excess hair from the body and wear cologne.
Shower

2) Make sure you know all aspects of the plan well, and expect the response, or a reaction, from the enemy.

3) Read al-Tawba and Anfal [Surahs 8 and 9 — traditional war chapters from the Qur’an] and reflect on their meanings and remember all of the things God has promised for the martyrs.

4) Remind your soul to listen and obey [all divine orders] and remember that you will face decisive situations that might prevent you from 100 per cent obedience, so tame your soul, purify it, convince it, make it understand, and incite it. God said: ‘Obey God and His Messenger, and do not fight amongst yourselves or else you will fail. And be patient, for God is with the patient.’ (Surah 8:46)

5) Pray during the night and be persistent in asking God to give you victory, control and conquest, and that He may make your task easier and not expose us.

6) Remember God frequently, and the best way to do it is to read the Holy Qur’an, according to all scholars, as far as I know. It is enough for us that it [the Qur’an] are the words of the Creator of the Earth and the plants, the One that you will meet [on the Day of Judgment].

7) Purify your soul from all unclean things. Completely forget something called ‘this world’ [or ‘this life’]. The time for play is over and the serious time is upon us. How much time have we wasted in our lives? Shouldn’t we take advantage of these last hours to offer good deeds and obedience?

8 ) You should feel complete tranquility, because the time between you and your marriage [in heaven] is very short. Afterwards begins the happy life, where God is satisfied with you, and eternal bliss ‘in the company of the prophets, the companions, the martyrs and the good people, who are all good company’ (Surah 4:69). Ask God for his mercy and be optimistic, because [the Prophet], peace be upon him, used to prefer optimism in all his affairs.

9) Keep in mind that, if you fall into hardship, how will you act and how will you remain steadfast and remember that you will return to God and remember that anything that happens to you could never be avoided, and what did not happen to you could never have happened to you. This test from Almighty God is to raise your level [levels of heaven] and erase your sins. And be sure that it is a matter of moments, which will then pass, God willing, so blessed are those who win the great reward of God. Almighty God said: ‘Did you think you could go to heaven before God knows whom amongst you have fought for Him and are patient?’ (Surah 3:142)

10) Remember the words of Almighty God: ‘You were looking to the battle before you engaged in it, and now you see it with your own two eyes.’ (Surah 3:143)Remember: ‘How many small groups beat big groups by the will of God.’ (Surah 2:249) And His words: ‘If God gives you victory, no one can beat you. And if He betrays you, who can give you victory without Him? So the faithful put their trust in God.’ (Surah 3:160)

11) Remind yourself of the supplications and of your brethren and ponder their meanings. (The morning and evening supplications, and the supplications of [entering] a town, and the [unclear] supplications, and the supplications said before meeting the enemy.

12) Bless your body with some verses of the Qur’an [done by reading verses into one’s hands and then rubbing the hands over whatever is to be blessed], the luggage, clothes, the knife, your personal effects, your ID, passport, and all your papers.

13) Check your weapon before you leave and long before you leave. (You must make your knife sharp and must not discomfort your animal during the slaughter).

14) Tighten your clothes [a reference to making sure his clothes will cover his private parts at all times], since this is the way of the pious generations after the Prophet. They would tighten their clothes before battle. Tighten your shoes well, wear socks so that your feet will be solidly in your shoes. All of these are worldly things [that humans can do to control their fate, although God decrees what will work and what won’t] and the rest is left to God, the best One to depend on.

15) Pray the morning prayer in a group and ponder the great rewards of that prayer. Make supplications afterwards, and do not leave your apartment unless you have performed ablution before leaving, because the angels will ask for your forgiveness as long as you are in a state of ablution, and will pray for you. This saying of the Prophet was mentioned by An-Nawawi in his book, The Best of Supplications. Read the words of God: ‘Did you think that We created you for no reason…’ from the Al-Mu’minun Chapter (Surah 23:115).

THE SECOND STEP
When the taxi takes you to (M) [this initial could stand for matar, airport in Arabic] remember God constantly while in the car. (Remember the supplication for entering a car, for entering a town, the supplication of place and other supplications).

When you have reached (M) and have left the taxi, say a supplication of place [‘Oh Lord, I ask you for the best of this place, and ask you to protect me from its evils’], and everywhere you go say that prayer and smile and be calm, for God is with the believers. And the angels protect you without you feeling anything. Say this supplication: ‘God is more dear than all of His creation.’ And say: ‘Oh Lord, protect me from them as You wish.’ And say: ‘Oh Lord, take your anger out on [the enemy] and we ask You to protect us from their evils.’ And say: ‘Oh Lord, block their vision from in front of them, so that they may not see.’ And say: ‘God is all we need, He is the best to rely upon.’ Remember God’s words: ‘Those to whom the people said, “The people have gathered to get you, so fear them,” but that only increased their faith and they said, God is all we need, He is the best to rely upon.’ (Surah 3:173) After you say that, you will find [unclear] as God promised this to his servants who say this supplication: (Supplications –du’a – are prayers of submission, many taken from Abu Dawud hadiths.)

1) They will come back [from battle] with God’s blessings

2) They were not harmed

3) And God was satisfied with them.

God says: ‘They came back with God’s blessings, were not harmed, and God was satisfied with them, and God is ever-blessing.’ (Surah 3:174)

All of their equipment and gates and technology will not prevent, nor harm, except by God’s will. The believers do not fear such things. The only ones that fear it are the allies of Satan, who are the brothers of the devil. They have become their allies, God save us, for fear is a great form of worship, and the only one worthy of it is God. He is the only one who deserves it. He said in the verses: ‘This is only the Devil scaring his allies’ who are fascinated with Western civilization, and have drank the love [of the West] like they drink water [unclear] and have become afraid of their weak equipment, ‘so fear them not, and fear Me, if you are believers.’ (Surah 3:175)

Fear is a great worship. The allies of God do not offer such worship except for the one God, who controls everything. [unclear] with total certainty that God will weaken the schemes of non-believers. God said: ‘God will weaken the schemes of the non-believers.’ (Surah 8:18)

You must remember your brothers with all respect. No one should notice that you are making the supplication, ‘There is no God but God,’ (Surah 37:35) because if you say it 1,000 times no one will be able to tell whether you are quiet or remember God. And among its miracles is what the Prophet, peace be upon him, said: ‘Whoever says, “There is no God but God,” with all his heart, goes to heaven.’ The prophet, peace be upon him, said: ‘If you put all the worlds and universes on one side of the balance, and “No God but God” on the other, “No God but God” will weigh more heavily.’ (Sunan al-Tirmidhi hadith number 731) You can repeat these words confidently, and this is just one of the strengths of these words. Whoever thinks deeply about these words will find that they have no dots [in the Arabic letter] and this is just one of its greatnesses, for words that have dots in them carry less weight than those that do not. And it is enough that these are the words of monotheism, which will make you steadfast in battle [unclear] as the prophet, peace be upon him, and his companions, and those who came after them, God willing, until the Day of Judgment.

Do not seem confused or show signs of nervous tension. Be happy, optimistic, calm because you are heading for a deed that God loves and will accept. It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise.

[poetry] Smile in the face of hardship young man/For you are heading toward eternal paradise

You must remember to make supplications wherever you go, and anytime you do anything, and God is with his faithful servants, He will protect them and make their tasks easier, and give them success and control, and victory, and everything…

THE THIRD PHASE
When you ride the (T) [probably for tayyara, aeroplane in Arabic], before your foot steps in it, and before you enter it, you make a prayer and supplications. Remember that this is a battle for the sake of God. As the prophet, peace be upon him, said, ‘An action for the sake of God is better than all of what is in this world.’ (Bukhari hadith Vol. 4, Book 52, Number 53) When you step inside the (T), and sit in your seat, begin with the known supplications that we have mentioned before. Be busy with the constant remembrance of God. God said: ‘Oh ye faithful, when you find the enemy be steadfast, and remember God constantly so that you may be successful.’ (Surah 8:45) When the (T) moves, even slightly, toward (Q) [unknown reference], say the supplication of travel. Because you are traveling to Almighty God, so be attentive on this trip.

Then [unclear] it takes off. This is the moment that both groups come together. So remember God, as He said in His book: ‘Oh Lord, pour your patience upon us and make our feet steadfast and give us victory over the infidels.’ (Surah 2:250) And His words: ‘And the only thing they said Lord, forgive our sins and excesses and make our feet steadfast and give us victory over the infidels.’ (Surah 3:147) And His prophet said: ‘Oh Lord, You have revealed the book, You move the clouds, You gave us victory over the enemy, conquer them and give us victory over them.’ (Source not found.) Give us victory and make the ground shake under their feet. Pray for yourself and all your brothers that they may be victorious and hit their targets and ask God to grant you martyrdom facing the enemy, not running away from it, and for Him to grant you patience and the feeling that anything that happens to you is for Him.

Then every one of you should prepare to carry out his role in a way that would satisfy God. You should clench your teeth, as the pious early generations did. When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world. Shout, ‘Allahu Akbar,’ because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers. God said: ‘Strike above the neck, and strike at all of their extremities.’ (Surah 8:12) Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, ‘Come hither, friend of God.’ (Source not found.) They have dressed in their most beautiful clothing.

If God decrees that any of you are to slaughter, dedicate the slaughter to your fathers and [unclear], because you have obligations toward them. Do not disagree, and obey. If you slaughter, do not cause the discomfort of those you are killing, because this is one of the practices of the prophet, peace be upon him. On one condition: that you do not become distracted by [unclear] and neglect what is greater, paying attention to the enemy. That would be treason, and would do more damage than good. If this happens, the deed at hand is more important than doing that, because the deed is an obligation, and [the other thing] is optional. And an obligation has priority over an option.

Do not seek revenge for yourself. Strike for God’s sake. One time Ali bin Abi Talib [a companion and close relative of the prophet Muhammad], fought with a non-believer. The non-believer spit on Ali, may God bless him. Ali [unclear] his sword, but did not strike him. When the battle was over, the companions of the prophet asked him why he had not smitten the non-believer. He said, ‘After he spat at me, I was afraid I would be striking at him in revenge for myself, so I lifted my sword.’ After he renewed his intentions, he went back and killed the man. This means that before you do anything, make sure your soul is prepared to do everything for God only. (This story found in the biography of Imam Ali bin Abu Talib.) Then implement the way of the prophet in taking prisoners. Take prisoners and kill them. As Almighty God said: ‘No prophet should have prisoners until he has soaked the land with blood. You want the bounties of this world [in exchange for prisoners] and God wants the other world [for you], and God is all-powerful, all-wise.’ (Surah 8:67)

If everything goes well, every one of you should pat the other on the shoulder in confidence that (M) and (T) number (K). Remind your brothers that this act is for Almighty God. Do not confuse your brothers or distract them. He should give them glad tidings and make them calm, and remind them [of God] and encourage them. How beautiful it is for one to read God’s words, such as: ‘And those who prefer the afterlife over this world should fight for the sake of God.’ (Surah 9:38?) And His words: ‘Do not suppose that those who are killed for the sake of God are dead; they are alive… ‘ (Surah 3:169) And others. Or they should sing songs to boost their morale, as the pious first generations did in the throes of battle, to bring calm, tranquility and joy to the hearts of his brothers.

Do not forget to take a bounty, even if it is a glass of water to quench your thirst or that of your brothers, if possible. When the hour of reality approaches, the zero hour, [unclear] and wholeheartedly welcome death for the sake of God. Always be remembering God. Either end your life while praying, seconds before the target, or make your last words: ‘There is no God but God, Muhammad is His messenger’. (Surah 37:35 and Surah 48:29)

Afterwards, we will all meet in the highest heaven, God willing.

If you see the enemy as strong, remember the groups [that had formed a coalition to fight the prophet Muhammad]. They were 10,000. Remember how God gave victory to his faithful servants. He said: ‘When the faithful saw the groups, they said, this is what God and the prophet promised, they said the truth. It only increased their faith.’ (Surah 3:173)

And may the peace of God be upon the prophet.

• The document was released by the F.B.I. and translated for The New York Times by Capital Communications Group, a Washington-based international consulting firm and by Imad Musa, a translator for the firm.

Christianity is not the problem, Islam is!

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30 comments for “Norway’s Anders Behring Breivik, a “Christian Fundie”? I DON’T Think so!

  1. Melanie
    July 26, 2011 at 3:27 am

    Thank you for pointing out that if he was Christian or not is irrelevant. I have been making this point since Friday. This must be driven home. It is the same as the unibomber. A “Christian” who is a mass murderer is not considered a Christian by true Christians, because they do not behave like a Christian, whether they call themselves one or not. A Muslim who kills is a real Muslim!
    Of course, I condemn the actions of ABB. However, his ideology of protecting his country to end the further infiltration of Muslims by the future leftist socialists attending the camp is clever–Killing innocents is always wrong, but I find it interesting that he chose to terrorize those allowing the problem to further(gov and future leaders) than the problem itself(muslims). And it cannot be ignored that this type of response is going to happen over and over as people feel frustrated and helpless to losing their countries to multiculturalism (Islam).

    • Dayglowjoe
      July 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      So basically you are justifying and even praising a violent act of terrorism if it is supposedly in support of something you believe in? You call killing these people ‘clever’ cos you don’t like their opinion? This event in Norway does only one thing, t show that the Christian white far right is jus as ugl and stupid and hateful as it’s Islamic equivalents. At the end of the day, the bast majority of Muslims innthe world are people like everyone else who just want to provide for their families and live their lives. If YO people can see that then you have clearly been raised very badly.

      • admin
        July 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm

        He was not religious, and the vast majority of Muslims are not like everyone else. I don’t want Sharia. There is Sharia movement taking place across the West. What are you doing to stop it?

      • July 26, 2011 at 11:11 pm

        Not only was I raised right, I also went to school and learned how to read. Had you done the same you would have picked up where I said I CONDEMMED his actions, and killing innocents is always wrong. What I said was clever was how he went after the future leaders…not that he shot them. Just because I “get” his Ideology doesn’t mean I condone it, as previously stated in my origional comment TWICE. So reread it. Before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
        And to address The Christian insanity you posted please reread Chris’s article and my comment. You obviously just posted your opinion, not based on facts or ability to counter the article and comments. He wasn’t Christian, by any definition.

        • eib
          July 27, 2011 at 2:06 pm

          Quote:
          Had you done the same you would have picked up where I said I CONDEMMED his actions, and killing innocents is always wrong.
          end

          1. You are a Muslim,
          2. You are a Muslim, and
          3. You are a Muslim.

          Only a Muslim condemns the killing of innocents and praises and even celebrates the murder of the “guilty”.
          In the mind of a Christian and Westerner, all are innocent until proven guilty by way of reason and evidence.
          And even so, death is not something imposed with joy.
          Muslims celebrate death and despise life.

    • eib
      July 27, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      ABB did not act out of Christian imperative.
      He acted out of free choice.
      And since he chose so freely to murder people, he should be tried by way of reason and sentenced by way of fair retribution.
      Since the murderer knows death too well and fears and even dreads life, then I think life in prison should be imposed as a sentence.

  2. Melanie
    July 26, 2011 at 3:27 am

    I have never read the instructions of Mohammad Atta before. (Thank you for posting) Sick to the very core. I have no words……

    • admin
      July 26, 2011 at 3:33 am

      It’s a good reference. Please feel free to repost it where ever you like.

      • Melanie
        July 26, 2011 at 3:55 am

        thanks you’re the best 🙂 I’ll post it to my 9/11 page

  3. Melanie
    July 26, 2011 at 3:45 am

    As far as MAC– of course they are going to use this any way they can to show the “christian” man made law is wrong. “In conclusion, Islam is indeed the answer to all of mankind’s problems”
    REALLY? Basically they are saying Jihad is acceptable for Islam and unacceptable for anti-islam.

    • admin
      July 26, 2011 at 5:20 am

      Thanks for pitching in Lady Liberty!

  4. Tonto
    July 26, 2011 at 5:10 am

    That it has NOTHING to do with religion at all is an absolute impossibility to a person immersed in islam….because EVERYTHING in their world has to do with religion. The idea that a person could be so offended by the islamic crapola to slaughter defenseless ones, though that’s exactly what muz do every single day, must be a real shocker to muz. As heinous as this crime is, and as bloody, you sure can’t say we haven’t seen it coming. The muz been asking for it, and as far as I can see, they been advertising for an ass kicking for a long time. The odds just caught up to them. To date, since 9/11/2001 there have been 17,500+ jihadi attacks, killing and maiming thousands and thousands. Did the world think that there would be no individuals that would demand and take retribution??? Let’s get real.

  5. MN
    July 26, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Firstly, my heart goes out to those who lost their lives & loved ones. Nothing can replace the loss of human lives.
    .
    I’ve just started reading his 1,500+ page writing – and honestly, were it not for his absurd & barbaric murder, I certainly wouldn’t have been aware of his writing.
    .
    Any human being with a real sense of grief at the death should definitely expend the time & efforts to sit down & read the entire writing – as a mark of respect for those who lost their lives.
    .
    While blaming Terry Jones for Muslim barbarians killing minorities in Pakistan & elsewhere, our Mainstream Media did not bat an eyelid. All socialist-leftist fools jumped on to that bang-wagon. So, I suggest, similarly, all those people should say that this murder was a direct consequence of Islamic savagery & terrorist activities. Of course, “what is good for the goose is good for the gander” concept will fail against the real thugs – socialist-leftist-marxist pigs that love their islamic masters.
    .
    Keep a note on the MSM news outlets. I’ll bet you – not one of those dimwits will choose to blame this act as a consequence of Islamic barbarity. Unfortunately, THIS IS EXACTLY THAT. It’s a really pathetic & disgusting reaction to islamic take-over of Europe.
    .
    The only positive / up-side I see to this is – more people choosing to indulge in such similar activities. With the economic downturn & more people facing troubles, I really don’t see it far-fetched if more troubled Western citizens choose the ABB-route to express their angst against the extermination of their native culture.
    .
    One thing’s for sure. Irrespective of how many ABBs kill innocent civilians, the socialst-leftist-marxist pigs that run the government (a huge ponze scheme that it really is) will never ever see the OBVIOUS FACTS *EVER*.
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    With utmost respect for the tragic deaths,
    MN

  6. MN
    July 26, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    The *positive* reference is not to condone the death or inspire more such deaths. In the perspective of civilian deaths it is negative; in the perspective of sending a *blood* strong message to socialist-leftist pigs & their islamic masters, it definitely is positive.
    .
    MN

    • MN
      July 26, 2011 at 4:23 pm

      “Europe has its own full-fledged brand of negationism: a movement to deny the largescale
      and long-term crimes against humanity committed by Islam. This movement is led
      by Islamic apologists and Marxist academics, and followed by all the politicians,
      journalists and intellectuals who call themselves secularists.”
      .
      That is an excerpt from the 2083-document. So, I don’t think ABB qualifies himself as a secularist. He may not be religious – but he’s no secularist or an atheist either. While I’d definitely not term him a Christian terrorist, he certainly can’t be termed a secular one either. May be he is just an “Anti-Muslim Jihadist” – that seems to best fit him.
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      MN

    • MN
      July 26, 2011 at 5:36 pm

      Christianity has been guilty of
      numerous temple destructions and persecutions. But the reason for this fanaticism is
      found in the common theological foundation of both religions: exclusivist prophetic
      monotheism.

      • MN
        July 26, 2011 at 5:38 pm

        Sorry – prev post didn’t paste fully. Here’s the full comment.
        .
        “Christianity has been guilty of
        numerous temple destructions and persecutions. But the reason for this fanaticism is
        found in the common theological foundation of both religions: exclusivist prophetic
        monotheism.”
        – Another statement from the ABB 1500+ page document. Concretely cements the fact that ABB is no Christian extremist. Again – it indirectly proves ABB was an ANTI-MUSLIM JIHADI.
        .
        MN

        • eib
          July 27, 2011 at 2:03 pm

          “Christianity” is not a word you can use in the same sense as “Islam”.
          Islam stands for the religion and the faithful.
          What Muslims are and do is inseparable from Islam.
          Christianity is not the Christians.
          In the West, there is a sharper divide between belief and practice, and so more types of practice and individualized interpretation of “Christianity” is possible.

  7. Robin Shadowes
    July 26, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    There ars some strange occurences in this whole case that suggest the Norway incidents could be far more nefarious that we previously thought. As you probably know there are lot of conspiracy stories surrounding cases like JFK and 911 too. Which might be not be so strange considering some questions have never been answered in a satisfactory way. Take JFK, the exit wound in his head suggest another shooter than LHO because if he was the shooter the exit wound should have been in the forehead instead of the back of his head. Then we have the case of building number 7 who collapsed withot any plane flying into it. Which suggests inside jobs and false flag operations.

    Now let’s put up the strange occurances in the norwegian case. The experts have stated that the blast was too big for just a car-bomb. There had also been going on work in the sewers days before the bombings which suggest the explosives was planted down there.
    Another myserious detail is the fact they chose a holiday to detonate it. Which suggests the PM Stoltenberg knew something would happen on that day. Another thing, the typical MO of mussies is to set it of in public, like subways, malls like that. They also seem to prefer civilian casualties. While going for politicans/government is more of a MO for right-wing groups/militias that sort of groups.
    Also, the police trained for a terror attack on the same premises just a few days before the attack.
    Ok, let’s move on the island. It took about an hour or so for the police to arrive at the island. From what I’ve learned Utöya is just about 40 minutes away from Oslo. What kept them so long. When they finally arrived on the island they already knew the name of the perp. They knew his name was ABB. How did they know that? This has never been explained. Then there has been witnesses who talks about a second shooter, just like in the JFK case. The other guy is supposed to be caucasian but with brown or dark hair. This guy still roams free.
    Another witness says he heard one cell phone go off one after the other, helping the shooter to locate his victims. Do you see stuff like that in MSM?
    You can call us tin-foil hats and conspiracy theorists all you like but there is one detail that can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. And that is the mystery surrounding his Facebook pages. The first page was created about 5 days before the attack and was entirely in norwegian. Among favourite things he listed the movie Max Manus, which was the name of a legendary resistance fighter and saboteur during the occupation back in the 40’s. That movie had been removed in the second version. That version vanished around the time of the attack and was replaced by another one in english. It’s not until now he gets labeled as conservative and christian. That was not in the first version. Screenshots of the pages can be found on Prisonplanet, Infowars and possibly Atlasshrugs among others.
    And finally comes the greatest mystery of all. That last FB page had changes made even AFTER ABB had been arrested! So he clearly cannot be a lone nutter. Well, he might very well be a nutter but there must have been more nutters involved than just him. Very weird, huh?

    • MN
      July 26, 2011 at 4:27 pm

      Zaid Hamid & Hamid Gul – those 2 names immediately propped up in my mind.
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      Indeed, very *weird*.
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      MN

  8. July 26, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    A ‘slime hater? Motivated by bigotry against the war cult?? How many ‘slimes did he kill???

    Were not his victims fair skinned & blue eyed, Nordic, Christians or atheists?

    How can one read the cursed words of Atta without cursing?

    Almighty Creator, giver of all that is good and true, spend they wrath on the demonspawn who worship satan under the name of allah. Bring death & eternal damnation swiftly upon their cursed cult and send it spiraling into the depths of Hell.

  9. Tonto
    July 26, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Seems to me that the battle between the Truth and the Lie is reaching a crescendo. We knew it would come eventually. The Lie is embodied in islam and socialism…..the Truth is represented by the Conservative views enshrined in the US Constitution….and the Bible. My only question would be “why did it take so long in Europe?” Europe has been under a lot of pressure for the last 20 years or so. Is India next? Those poor folks have been absorbing unbelievable punishment by the muz for 50 years. They’ve GOT to be ready to explode.

  10. Linda Jam
    July 26, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Seriously, why do the Muslims bring up Saladin? He was a mediocre warrior at best.he set apostates on fire. He didn’t massacre the people living in Jerusalem because he wanted to sell them into slavery. He defeated the crusaders because the crusaders were grossly outnumbered and already starving. Saladin has reached an exaggerated status because the Muslims don’t have anything better to champion.
    As far as that weirdo in Norway goes. I’m not buying his story. Maybe I’m totally wrong but I really smell a rat. he’s giving up his information too easily and naming the EDL. Amazingly, Europe’s governments are more concerned with right wing groups then evil Islam and have been hoping for a chance to get groups like the EDL. Its apparent the Euro gov’ts have an agenda. But why are the European citizens so protective of Islam? Don’t they understand the consequences?themselves?

    • Robin Shadowes
      July 27, 2011 at 5:06 pm

      It’s a false flag operation designed to destroy the right-wing groups and silence any critiscism to islam and islamization.

    • Tonto
      July 28, 2011 at 2:35 pm

      Absolutely correct about Saladin. He was defeated several times in battle with the Crudaders…and when he came to Jerusalem he outnumbered the Kinghts by about 100 to one. Good odds, but he needed every one of them.
      Socialists identify with islam because islam runs a very close parrallel to socialism…..slaves (plebes, serfs, peons, “the masses”, etc) and the “elites (imams, ayatollas, mullahs). Both leader classes have the idea that the underlings need strict control because they are far too backward and stupid to control themselves. They see each other as natural allies. That’s why muz so admired Hitler and his National Socialists.

  11. NoBurqa
    July 27, 2011 at 9:51 am

    This is an interesting excerpt from his Manifesto: “Q: What about atheists and Odinists, can they join the PCCTS, Knights Templar?

    A: If you want to fight for the cross and die under the “cross of the martyrs” it’s required that you are a practising Christian, a Christian agnostic or a Christian atheist (cultural Christian). The cultural factors are more important than your personal relationship with God, Jesus or the holy spirit. Even Odinists can fight with us or by our side as brothers in this fight as long as they accept the founding principles of PCCTS, Knights Templar and agree to fight under the cross of the martyrs. The essence of our struggle is to defeat the cultural Marxist/multiculturalist regimes of Western Europe before the we are completely demographically overwhelmed by Muslims.

    I have studied Norse Mythology and have a lot of respect for the Odinist traditions. I consider myself to be a Christian, but Odinism is still and will always be an important part of my culture and identity.

    Q: Is it likely that Odinists will support the cause of the PCCTS, Knights Templar, considering the fact that many of them hate Christendom?

    A: First of all, as a Norwegian, I am extremely proud of my Odinistic/Norse heritage as it is an essential aspect of my culture and my identity. However, things aren’t black and white. Supporting the Christian cultural heritage does not automatically mean you hate Odinism or vice versa. There are pragmatical considerations Odinists have to evaluate as well. Do they really believe the symbolism of Mjöllnir (Thors hammer) has the potential to unite the Nordic peoples against the forces we are facing? Do they really believe Odinistic symbolism would be more suitable compared to the uniting force of Christendom’s symbolism and that of the cross? Anyone with half a brain will know that only the symbolism of the cross (which is a part of all the Nordic flags btw with the exception of Germany) has the potential to unite us for this cause. Choosing to fight under the banner of the cross, does not constitute that you have to reject your Odinistic heritage in any way or form. As for their claim that a Christian principle of suicidal humanism is a part of the root of our current problems, I couldn’t agree more. However, instead of abandoning Christendom altogether I know European Christendom can be reformed. The Church wasn’t always as weak and suicidal as it is today. The Odinists needs to understand that the Church they hate is the cultural Marxist Church and not the real Church. The Church I love doesn’t exist anymore because it has been deconstructed. However, I know that it can be reformed and that it again will embrace and propagate principles of strength, honour and self defense. Instead of abandoning the Church we will save it and re-create it as a nationalistic Church which will tolerate and allow (to a very large degree) native cultures/heritage/thought systems such as Odinism.

    As a cultural Christian, I believe Christendom is essential for cultural reasons. After all, Christianity is the ONLY cultural platform that can unite all Europeans, which will be needed in the coming period during the third expulsion of the Muslims.

    Odinism is significant for the Nordic countries but it does not have the potency to unite us against such a devastating force as Islam, cultural Marxism/multiculturalism and capitalist globalism. Only Europeans, in solidarity with each other, can solve our current problems. As for secularism, are there any strong uniting symbols at all? I think not. In order to protect your culture you need, at the very minimum, strong, uniting symbols representing your culture. In this context, the cross is the unrivalled as it is the most potent European symbol. I have had this discussion with many Odinists, and even they understand this.

    Odinists need not fear us as they should consider us brothers in our common fight. I strongly encourage them to support us. Because we might not succeed in our struggle to defeat the EUSSR cultural Marxist/multiculturalist hegemony without their support.

    Q: Do I have to believe in God or Jesus in order to become a Justiciar Knight?

    A: As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus. Being a Christian can mean many things;

    -That you believe in and want to protect Europe’s Christian cultural heritage. The European cultural heritage, our norms (moral codes and social structures included), our traditions and our modern political systems are based on Christianity – Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity and the legacy of the European enlightenment (reason is the primary source and legitimacy for authority).

    It is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus in order to fight for our Christian cultural heritage and the European way. In many ways, our modern societies and European secularism is a result of European Christendom and the enlightenment. It is therefore essential to understand the difference between a “Christian fundamentalist theocracy” (everything we do not want) and a secular European society based on our Christian cultural heritage (what we do want).

    So no, you don’t need to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus to fight for our Christian cultural heritage. It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian-atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy (Christian holidays, Christmas and Easter)).

    The PCCTS, Knights Templar is therefore not a religious organisation but rather a Christian “culturalist” military order.” (Breivik’s Manifesto, Pages 1453-1455)

    Fundamentalist Christian? Riiigght. But the media has said it long enough for the general public to get their point, truth is irrelevant.

  12. July 27, 2011 at 11:01 am

    is there any lengths those on the left wont go to demonize and demogogue the right ?, it should come as no supprize that we as Christian Consrervatives need to dig in our Heels, and we need to seriously consider boycotting business that do business with the left wing TV ,

    heres some good news, Rachel Madow and MSNBC are being sued for lying about a missionary

  13. Bob is Great
    July 28, 2011 at 9:58 am

    I expect to hear the words “Muslim Fundamentalist” morning noon and night today. 😉

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/exclusive-us-military-serviceman-arrested-in-alleged-attack-on-fort-hood.html

  14. Tonto
    July 28, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Since 9/11/2001, there have been OVER 17,500 jihadi attacks, by muslims. How many times have we heard the main stream media in the USA or Europe scream about “Crimes against Humanity” or “Race War” or heard them piss and moan about how religion is being defiled and used for heinous and horrible murders when the muz do it in the “name of islam”? It’s so common for muz to murder and destroy it’s become a mundane, common happenstance that no one bothers to pay attention to it any more….
    But the left, and the leftist media, will milk hell out of this event because one of the cardinal rules of socialism is to “NEVER let a crisis go to waste”.

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