At the conclusion of the opening segment of the “Sean Hannity’s Muslim “Friend” Mike Ghouse Responds to Logan’s Warning!” series, we closed with the following statement:
Obviously Mike will say anything to try and counter the critics of Islam. But wait, in part II his lies get bolder and even more comical!
Well here you go!
Mike Ghouse:
Thirdly, No Muslim organization or a majority of Muslims in America want Sharia for public governance, but there are some who may want to use Sharia to resolve differences between family members, just as Jewish Laws.
Yes! You read it correctly! Mike Ghouse who appears on Fox News has stated there are no Muslim organizations in America that wants Sharia to govern America. It is unbelievable that he thought that would actually fly here! I will start with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).
Co-Founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations
CAIR-SFBA Executive Committee Member
President and CEO of Silicon Expert Technologies.
Former Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP) Officer.Omar Ahmad was captured on FBI surveillance tapes at Hamas meetings in the U.S.A. during 1993 explaining that the IAP could not, for political reasons, admit its support for Hamas, and then discussing how the Hamas agenda could be cloaked and advanced. Omar Ahmad’s airfare and hotel bills for this meeting were paid for by the Holy Land Foundation.
“Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam … Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
Last June Hizb ut-Tahrir America held their Khilafah Conference 2011 in Oak Brook, IL Illionis. In the video below the spokesperson calls for Sharia to the chants of “Allahu Akbar”!
For those new to the subject, Hizb ut-Tahrir is a powerful Islamic organization which has chapters across the world.
Another Muslim group which is trying to implement Sharia is America is the Muslim Brotherhood. Back in February of 2011 Glenn Beck did a show on the Muslim Brotherhood’s plan to turn America into the Sharia States of America.
Written sometime in 1987 but not formally published until May 22, 1991, this 18-page document listed the Brotherhood’s 29 likeminded “organizations of our friends” that shared the common goal of dismantling American institutions and turning the U.S. into a Muslim nation. These “friends” were identified by Akram and the Brotherhood as groups that could help convince Muslims “that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands … so that … God’s religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions.”
Here is the list of the “organizations of friends”.
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
ISNA Fiqh Committee (now known as the Fiqh Council of North America)
ISNA Political Awareness Committee
Muslim Youth of North America
Muslim Students Association of the U.S. and Canada
Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers
Islamic Medical Association (of North America)
Islamic Teaching Center
Malaysian Islamic Study Group
Foundation for International Development
North American Islamic Trust
Islamic Centers Division
American Trust Publications
Audio-Visual Center
Islamic Book Service
Islamic Circle of North America
Muslim Arab Youth Association
Islamic Association for Palestine
United Association for Studies and Research
International Institute of Islamic Thought
Muslim Communities Association
Association of Muslim Social Scientists (of North America)
Islamic Housing Cooperative
Muslim Businessmen Association
Islamic Education Department
Occupied Land Fund (later known as the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development)
Mercy International Association
Baitul Mal Inc.
Islamic Information Center (of America)
Unless Mike had been in a coma for the last decade or so, there is no way he did not know of at least some of the Muslim groups listed above. Obviously Mike is a blatant liar! Mosques across America are also preaching for Sharia, but Mike stated the majority of Muslims here do not want Sharia. Where is his proof? I challenge Mike to show us just ONE Mosque in America that is preaching AGAINST Sharia Law.
He brings Jewish people in this as a smokescreen. Jews are not the ones on a worldwide campaign threatening to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all. Muslims are and that is where the focus shall remain Mike.
MG:
Every American prefers to hear the clergy, counselor or friends to resolve a difference before they go to the court., similarly, for personal Muslims may use a psychologist, a friend or sharia guidance for justice. Sharia is an option for Muslims and not for others.
If the Muslims groups that Mike said did not exist here get their way Sharia will be for all. As you will see internationally known Islamic scholars prove this.
Dr. Naik: Non-Muslims Have Less Rights Than Muslims Under Islam
Some background information on Dr. Naik:
The Sunday EXPRESS, dated 31st January 2010, published The Indian Express list of the “100 MOST POWERFUL INDIANS IN 2010” amongst the Billion Plus population of India, with 36 names from the “2009 List” deleted, wherein:-
1) Dr. ZAKIR NAIK was ranked No. 89.
2) From amongst the few Muslims in this list of 100, Dr. ZAKIR NAIK is the ONLY MUSLIM ISLAMIC PREACHER / SCHOLAR / ORATOR. The others being a Political Secretary, a Politician, a Government Official, a Business Magnate and 3 Film Personalities.
3) Amongst the “Spiritual/Religious Gurus” though he was the only Muslim and No. 3 in 2009 list, this year (2010) Dr. Zakir Naik TOPPED the List of Spiritual / Religious Gurus at No. 89, for preaching of Islam, followed by Jaggi Vasudev (at No. 94, for his trees planting work), Baba Ramdev (at No. 99, for his Yoga work) and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (at No. 100, for his Sudarshan Kriya breathing technique work) respectively.
From the “Reliance of theTraveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law. The book has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the world’s highest learning Islamic school.
JUSTICE CHAPTER: NON-MUSLIM SUBJECTS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE (AHL AL-DHIMMA)
o11.1 A formal agreement of protection is made with citizens who are:
(1) Jews;
(2) Christians;
(3) Zoroastrians;
(4) Samarians and Sabians, if their religions do not respectively contradict the fundamental bases of Judaism and Christianity;
(5) and those who adhere to the religion of Abraham or one of the other prophets (upon whom be blessings and peace).
o11.2 Such an agreement may not be effected with those who are idol worshippers, or those who do not have a Sacred Book or something that could have been a book.
(A: Something that could have been a Book refers to those like the Zoroastrians, who have remnants resembling an ancient Book. As for the psuedoscriptures of cults that have appeared since Islam (n: such as the Sikh, Baha’is, Mormons, Qadianis, etc.) they are neither are nor could be a Book since the Koran is the final revelation.)
o11.3 Such an agreement is only valid when the subject peoples:
(a) follow the rules of Islam (o11.5) (A: those mentioned below (o11.5) and those involving public behavior and dress, though in acts of worship and their private lives, the subject communities have their own laws, judges, and courts, enforcing the rules of their own religion among themselves);
(b) and pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)
THE NON-MUSLIM POLL TAX
o11.4 The minimum non-Muslim poll tax is on dinar (n: 4.235 grams of gold) per person (A: per year) The maximum is whatever both sides agree upon.It is collected with leniency and politeness, as are all debts, and it not levied on women, children, or the insane.
o11.5 Such non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they:
(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness:
(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar)
(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu ‘alaykun”;
(4) must keep to the side of the street;
(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;
(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays;
(7) and are forbidden to build new churches
o11.6 They are forbidden to reside in the Hijaz, meaning the area and towns around Mecca, Medina, and Yamama, for more than three days (when the caliph allows them to enter there for something they need).
o11.7 A non-Muslim may not enter the Meccan Sacred Precinct (Haram) under any circumstances, or enter any other mosque without persmission (A: nor may Muslims enter churches without their permission).
o11.8 It is obligatory for the caliph to protect those of them who are in Muslim lands just as he would Muslims, and to seek the release of those captured.
o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated. (dis: o11.11) (A: though if only one of them disobeys, it concerns him alone).
o11.10 The agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
(1) commits adultery with a Muslim woman or marries her;
(2) conceals spies of hostile forces;
(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;
(4) kills a Muslim;
(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.
o11.11 When a subject’s agreement with the state has been violated, the caliph chooses between the four alternatives mentioned in connection with prisoners of war (o9.14).
PRISONERS OF WAR
o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests
(O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or a Muslim captive held by the enemy.
If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed , and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.
MG:
Fourthly, as a Muslim and Muslim representing many a Muslims, we stand up against “Sharia as practiced in those three nations” Justice is enshrined in American Laws and Muslims prefer Justice, that is the intent of Sharia law, even thought it is misapplied, misinterpreted and miscarried as it happens in any system.
Finally! There is one thing he said that I believe. I am sure he does represent “many a Muslims”. More lying Muslims who will say anything to try and cover for Islam. MG goes onto to state justice is the intent of Sharia Law. The readers have just seen some very barbaric aspects of Sharia “justice”. Mike, instead of continually posting empty talking points, point out the “misinterpretations.
MG:
Over the last two years I have been with Hannity, I have seen his sensibility in seeing facts. He sees Sharia of Saudi is not the same as Sharia as most Muslims understand.
What you really mean to say is that you have found a man who has fallen for your Islamocon, and research team that has failed by allowing Ghouse to mislead America for two years! Mike you are not the spokesperson for the Islamic community so do not pretend to be.
MG:
I am glad to see reason and rationality approach by Sean when he says, there are different interpretations, he clearly saw the difference and once he quoted again to some one on his show, “is this the Sharia interpretation Mike Ghouse talks about?” On the interview with Imam Feisal, Sean quoted me again and that caused the stir with the right wingers.
Of course Ghouse is glad. He has found someone who has allowed him to sell millions of Americans an Islamic bridge. A bridge to an Islamic hell. Sean making that statement shows just how uniformed he is on this issue.
MG:
Mr. Logan, I hope you see another point of view, espoused by Muslims, if you do, check my article on “Sharia Not in America” published at Huffington Post and go to the site www.ShariaLaws.com for a range of articles on the topic.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/sharia-law-not-in-america_b_653250.html
I see a view espoused my YOU Mike, that is all. From Mike’s link:
The intent of the Sharia laws was to construct a complete justice system with fairness to all members of society.
SNIP
American Muslims have placed their trust in the American justice system and will continue to oppose Sharia laws as they are currently applied in many places across the globe. I will be one of the first ones, if not the first one, to stand up against it. The Muslim majority in America is happy with the American system and does not want to have Sharia law here in America.
That article was written back in July of 2010, so we can see Mike has been blatantly lying to America for years and Fox News allowed this to go on!
MG:
Here is a response to the two verse quoted by you. Perhaps, misquoted or quoted from Muslim-right-wing translations or European translation since 1142 AD, which they never bothered to correct it as it suits the right wingers.
Response to 9:29 is at:
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2010/03/quraan-2256-free-will-v-929-compulsion.html
What is comical here is that the verse has the same meaning as I had posted in the first Hannity article.
9:29 (Asad) [And] fight against those who – despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime] [40] -do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, [41] and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon them] [42] till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand, after having been humbled [in war]. [43] –
But Ghouse tries to spin the meaning:
He goes onto state the Koran states there is no compulsion in religion. Well that’s nice Mike. I did not say anything about forced conversions. I stated Islamic rule calls for the dominance over non-Muslims. By force if necessary, and you only helped prove that. Thanks buddy! Apparently Mike likes to make things up.
the clear-cut Qur’anic rule that war is permitted only in self-defence
What he conveniently leaves out is that there is an offensive jihad. There is also the following verse from the Sahih (authentic) Ahadith:
Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4294:
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai’ except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah’s Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah’s behest with regard to them.
MG:
On the other hand, they must be accorded full protection of all their civic rights and of their religious freedom:
MG the goes on to “explain” Koran verse 9:33, which also calls for dominance over non-Muslims.
9:33 (Asad) He it is who has sent forth His Apostle with the [task of spreading] guidance and the religion of truth, to the end that He may cause it to prevail over all [false] religion (“the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man’s] self-surrender unto Him”. See also 61 : 8-9). however hateful this may be to those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God.
Indeed the right wing Muslims interpret the “true religion” in the verse above in political terms, that of dominance and impositions. It goes against the very essence of Quraan which calls, to honor the people of the book and asserts God alone is the master of the Day of Judgment and that you have to back off judging others on their belief aspect. Ironically, the right wingers in all religions see things in similar manner.
Seriously Mike, you are getting boring. Give it a rest….I have proved over and over that Islam calls for the dominance over non-Muslims. My name is Logan, not Hannity. I have done my homework!
Ghouse are you any kind of authority figure in the Islamic world Mike? I challenge you, Hannity, the entire Fox News research team, Brigitte Gabriel, Daniel Pipes, Frank Gaffney, and their hero Zudhi Jasser to prove that just one of the four main Sunni schools states that Muslims and non-Muslims have equal rights under Islam. Come on guys…..just ONE….
The Hanafi school, the Maliki school, the Shafi’i school and the Hanbali school. I will even make things easier for all of you, and add the Shiite Jafari Islamic school to the list.
My advice to my infidel friends is not to hold your breath waitng for a response to that challenge. Islam will takeover long before those schools put out a non-Muslim friendly version of Sharia. To do so they would have to change the Koran. It is not happening.
Coming up next on Logan’s Warning. Sean Hannity’s “friend” Mike Ghouse goes on anti-conservative Christian tirade! You have to see this!
27 comments for “Hannity’s Muslim “Friend” Responds to Logan’s Warning Part II ~ The Lies get Bolder!”