Frank Gaffney, Daniel Pipes, and the rest of the FAILED “moderate Islam” campaign.
For over 10 years I have been speaking out against the threat of Islam. When I first started though, I remember numerous non-Muslims telling me that I should not say Islam itself is the problem. To use the term “Islamofascism” (which I admittedly did use for a short period of time), or “radical Islam”. Another popular term is “Islamism”. I did not really care for using the term “Islamofascism”, as in the back of my mind I knew Islam itself was the problem.
After a short while I decided to go against the wishes of many friends and go with the truth. The truth being that Islam itself is the problem. My line of thinking is, how can we defeat an enemy if we cannot even bring ourselves to name that enemy? Now it is over a decade later and the situation with Islam in America has gotten worse, much worse.
There is some good news though, and that is that the voices of non-Muslims are on the rise. But after that there is a major problem. The voices of most of the “leaders” on this issue do not get to the root of the problem, and have no real long term answers. Apparently the best they can do is continue to fantasize about “moderate” Muslims/Islam coming to the rescue. Ignoring the fact that “moderates” did not save Europe and that more and more aspects of Sharia are seeping into America. In other words, what is being done is not working.
As many of you know, for over a year I have been exposing the weak kneed stance of the “leaders” of ACT!, their support of so called “moderate” Muslim Zuhdi Jasser, and Muslim immigration. Unfortunately ACT! is not the only cheerleader of Jasser. There are other big names in this battle that are also living in the “moderates” are going to save the day fantasy.
5. Clarion Fund: Over a year ago they asked me to remove them from my email list. I asked them why, and they never responded. Here is what they have to say about Jasser.
Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser Founder and President, American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD). Jasser is a devout practicing Muslim practicing internal medicine and nuclear cardiology in Phoenix. He is the immediate-Past President of the Arizona Medical Association.
Reading such a comment leads me to believe that they are ignorant on Islam itself. Because Muslims want Sharia. I receive occasional emails from their founder Raphael Shore. I politely asked him if he has ever read a Koran and Sahih Ahadith. He will not respond. I guess the truth is too much for them to deal with.
4. Walid Phares: Sometime within the last year he defriended me on Facebook, and then ran to the hills when I asked why he did so. Phares is frequently on the news, but is another one who has his Jasser pom poms out. Only Phares is so foolish, that he actually wants Jasser who tries to cover for Islam, in our government.
Just what we need….Jasser getting more politicians to believe that Islam itself is not the problem, and “moderates” are coming to the rescue.
3. Steve Emerson: Emerson does a good job exposing the threat of Islamic terrorism, but does not seem to have any long term answers on the legal jihad that is taking place across America. Earlier I stated that ACT! was in favor of Muslim immigration. Emerson is no better, as he even supports Mosques being built is America!
Steve Emerson: Jasser is a Muslim. Though he opposed the proposed Ground Zero mosque, his record and that of his family has been in helping build mosques in Wisconsin and Arizona.
Maybe Emerson and the rest of the Jasser cheer leaders would like to explain how adding more Islam is going to help defeat Islam?! Oh I forgot, I am not supposed to say Islam itself is the problem….
2. Daniel Pipes: Looking at Pipes we see the ultimate failure of the “moderate” Muslim campaign.
Calling Islamism the Enemy
by Daniel Pipes
December 1, 2001
President Bush and others were properly careful not to foster or be seen as fostering the idea that Islam—a faith observed by more than one billion people across the world—was our enemy.
by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
November 23, 2004There is good news to report: The idea that “militant Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution” is finding greater acceptance over time.
We also see that Pipes does not care that he is misleading America, as he is carrying the same message today!
APRIL 20, 2012 12:00 A.M.
Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes has said, “The problem is radical Islam. The solution is moderate Islam.”
1. The Capo of the “moderate” Muslim campaign,Mr Frank Gaffney himself. Gaffney has been telling America that “moderates” are coming to the rescue since at least 2007.
Frank Gaffney, one of the summit panelists and the founder and president of the Center for Security Policy, was the most explicit proponent of this view. Gaffney used Ronald Reagan’s strategy in bringing down the Berlin Wall as a model for how we should engage the Muslims today, saying that, like Reagan’s empowerment of natural allies within Communism, “we must empower our allies within Islam.”
Well Frank, those within Islam stand with Islam.
In 2008 Frank had presented his “hero” Jasser with a “Defender of the Home Front” award. Under Gaffney’s and Pipes’ watch things have gotten worse, much worse.How much more of America has to be changed to suit Islam, before Gaffney and his puppets stop misleading America?
Gaffney also makes the following bold statement:
Gaffney replied that such wasn’t the case and that he knows that there are millions of Muslims who don’t want to live under sharia — Muslims who came to the U.S. to get away from sharia-based governments.
So Frank, are you saying that about half the Muslims here do not want it? (Technically if they do not want Sharia they have apostated, but I will give you a pass on that for now.) Where is your proof? You are starting to sound like a Muslim sympathizer like ACT!’s Guy Rodgers.
What is so ludicrous about the “moderate” Muslim campaign is that it is being lead by mostly non-Muslims. Did any of the above ever ask themselves why Jasser spends so much time with non-Muslims, instead of Muslims?
I proudly stand with colleagues Pamela Geller and Mr. Spencer on the issue of “moderate Islam”.
Pamela Geller: I have long derided the “moderate Islam” meme as a theory with no basis in reality or history. It’s wishful thinking, dangerous, and suicidal.
Robert Spencer:I recently participated in a FrontPage Symposium, “The World’s Most Wanted: A ‘Moderate Islam,’” about that great unicorn in which everyone believes and depends upon but which no one has ever actually seen, moderate Islam. (R.S.)
I entitled this article “How do you win a war, When you Have no Answers?” because, “moderate” Muslims/Islam is not an answer. It is a fantasy! Either we end up dealing with Muslim immigration, and Islam, or it is just a matter of time until we lose this war. As they will never stop pushing.
Coming up next on Logan’s Warning: Europe: The Rise of the Anti-Islam Campaign… something Gaffney and his friends might want to pay attention to.
Great piece Chris! It really is time to start highlighting and pushing home the FACT that moderate Islam is not an answer or solution to this cancerous problem. Islam, Islam,Islam is the problem – I can’t say it enough !
This conflict is an Islamic Cultural War. Which means Islamic Culture must destroy Western Culture or Western Culture must destroy Islamic Culture. It is a Genocidal War.
Or we must change their culture. There are no other choice.
Western Culture destabilizes Islamic Culture. Our ideas, our government, our music our radio and TV, our Internet, our books everything we Are is a threat to their culture causing destabilization of their authoritarian structure. Their choose of defense is terrorism. Arabs don’t even know that their culture pushes them into conflict.
the enemy is Islam. Period.
How do you win a war when the commander refuses to name the enemy?
Unfortunately Bush did that was well. He set us back over a year, by parroting the “Islam is a religion of peace” falsehood.
Excellent article! I, personally, have long ascribed to the idea that calling a spade a spade isn’t always PC and may raise some ire at times, but the truth will eventually come out anyway,so why should I mind taking the heat for being right first?
Thanks Tonto!
Sadly some of them will not see that their belief in moderatism has failed until they feel the noose or the knife around their necks by a islamic supremacist.
One word……
Brilliant…….
Regards, Don Laird
Edson,Alberta,Canada
Hi Don!
It is an unpleasant truth America/West needs to face.
Have a good day!
Almost there.
Islam is not the problem, Muslims are.
Suggesting there are moderate Muslims, and Al Qaeda and the Taliban are extreme Muslims, is like saying the Gestapo and the SS were extreme nazis.
Islam doesn’t mooch about being menacing, it is Muslims who menace. Nazism didn’t brood in the sky threateningly, all on its own, it was nazis who rampaged on their killing spree.
If Al Qaeda and their ilk comprise such a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny mote of a minority of Muslims who practice such a perverse form of Islam, then why do they exist at all?
Why are they in power and gaining power?
Whatever answers are profferred as to why, those answers expose exactly why Muslims are the problem.
Sadly, the only way to defeat totalitarians is to behave even worse than they. That’s how wars are won, I’m afraid, by being more ruthless than the enemy. When did the West last win a war? Whenever it was, West-hating pundits and politicians have been wringing their hands about it ever since.
Whenever a woman is stoned to death for being raped it is facile for Muslims to stand around watching mumbling, “It’s not us doing it, we’re moderates and just watch”.
Good morning Mr. Gash,
I am all for ending Muslim immigration, and if possible deporting those who call for Sharia to govern non-Islamic countries.
Anything is possible Chris. We must make it inevitable.
We are just getting started, and we will prevail! (All within the law) Please send me an email…[email protected]
Thanks!
ignorance is rampant in america today.you hit it on the head.act is a bullshit organization,they too never answered me when i asked how a muslim can read the koran and beleive it and consider themselves moderate.
its getting bad in brooklyn ny now.
more burkhas and muslims than ever
You should read Lawrence Auster he destroys Daniel Pipes in many articles. As well as the so called “moderate muslim”
Hi Jerod!
I will check that out. Thanks!
One of the best books I have read recently regarding Islam is by a
Mark Durie called “The Third Choice”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Third-Choice-dhimmitude-freedom/dp/1926800001
He does good work.
Thanks!
For the record: I tagged this article to Gaffney and Pipes on Facebook. As of now, they have not responded.
Here is Lawrence Auster’s article regarding Daniel pipes
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=9781
That was a great read!
“Pipes’s meaning is undeniable: moderate Islam does not now exist. It must be created.”
Trying to do so is a waste of time, and with non-Muslims promoting it, it will surely not happen.
Daniel Pipes claims radical Islam is supported by only 10 to 15 percent of Muslims worldwide. Assuming for the moment that ‘radical Islam’ is a legitimate entity, then certainly radical Islam is TACITLY supported by approx 1.5 BILLION Muslims who remain mute throughout all the carnage. Now why is this so? Because ‘radical Islam’ doesn’t really exist and the Muslim community knows this. Muslims are merely supporting Islam whether openly or tacitly.
It is the responsibility of the Muslims who reject the violent teachings of Muhammad to either leave Islam or STFU and stew in your own toxic Islamic soup. Don’t dump your problem in our laps.
Back in 2007 I asked Frank Gaffney, who I met him here in Atlanta, about naming the enemy – expressing my dismay about our inability to name Islam the enemy rather than ‘terrorism’ or a few so called ‘radical’ Muslim individuals. Can’t recall his exact answer but he definitely wasn’t on board with naming Islam the source of the problem or anyone’s enemy.
Good work on confronting him Tommy.
How many more years would he like to continue with failed policies?
Shia — Khomeini says “I spit on those who say islam is a religion of peace”.
Sunni — Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan comments on the term “moderate Islam”and says, ‘These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.’
And i say islam is ugly.
“we must empower our allies within Islam.”
We are. Political correctness is the pavement, and moderate muslams the empowering slaves on which Shariah rides through the open door of democracy. All who are open and accepting to this alliance will be enslaved or perish in a war they would not acknowledge. Recall your childhood and take a good look around now so you can remember the good old days of America.
Allah U Oppressor
Mohammad U Slave driver
Moderate muslim U deceiver
Well said!
Thank you for your good work on this site. You have a clear understanding of what is taking place. Keep up the fight.
WOW !! Article & Replies !! If only everyone in Americal were exposed to this!
The peaceful muslims are so peaceful you can`t hear them.
The only solution to the problem is to ban pislam and repatriate all arselifters from the west to their point of origin. Then to stop all economic and political support to these pislamic nations. I’m sure millions will then starve and die but unfortunately that is necessary. We can never deprogramme these people. They must scrap pislam themselves. If they suffer enough they must sooner or later realize that their god allah has done nothing to stop their suffering. But they have to find this out the hard way and by themselves.
PLEASE HELP:
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As if Phares was not bad enough left to his independent devices, he is a Middle East advisor to candidate Romney. No wonder Romney so ignorantly stated “Jihadism is no part of Islam.”
Chris, I just emailed two hot ones you can cross post, no need for attribution or anything.
The key to victory over Isdamn was handed to us by Brig. S.K. Malik when he wrote The Qur’anic Concept of War. This quote comes from page 60.
Terror cannot be struck into the hearts of an army by merely
cutting its lines of communication or depriving it of its routes
of withdrawal. It is basically related to the strength or weakness
of the human soul. It can be instilled only if the opponent’s
Faith is destroyed. Psychological dislocation is temporary;
spiritual dislocation is permanent. Psychological dislocation can be
produced by a physical act but this does not hold good of the
spiritual dislocation. To instill terror into the hearts of the enemy,
it is essential. in the ultimate analysis, to dislocate his Faith. An
invincible Faith is immune to terror. A weak Faith offers inroads
to terror. The Faith conferred upon us by the Holy Qur’an has
the inherent strength to ward off terror from us and to enable
us to strike terror into the enemy. Whatever the form or type of
strategy directed against the enemy, it must, in order to be effective,
be capable of striking terror into the hearts of the enemy. A strategy
that fails to attain this condition suffers from inherent drawbacks
and weaknesses; and should be reviewed and modified. This rule
is fully applicable to nuclear as well as conventional wars. It is
equally true of the strategy of nuclear deterrence in fashion
today. To be credible and effective, the strategy of deterrence
must be capable of striking terror into the hearts of the enemy.
http://wolfpangloss.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/malik-quranic-concept-of-war.pdf#page=60
We can only defeat Isdamn by destroying their faith: to defeat them, cause them to stop believing in Allah, its threat & promise.
Perhaps we need to continually reveal the underlying decadence of the pagan cult called Islam. While child brides are not exclusive to Islam, one can be sure that these decadent Islamic practices would eventually be introduced to “Sharia compliant zones” in the USA; all in the name of freedom of religion. We must remember that Muslims are now teaching that their pervert prophet is a prime example that all Muslims should follow. The link below is just one more reminder of the perverse and decadent behavior that Islamic men have eventually introduced when their numbers reach a certain threshold wherever they resides. We already have witnessed numerous examples of their decadent and perverse cultural “honor killings” that have taken place in various parts North America. Does anyone think that the rest of their perverse “cultural” practices will not be introduced as well? This is especially true of any practice that was performed by their perverse and demon inspired prophet, Muhammad. We can only expect the worst of human behavior from this religion, because they sanction such behavior by relating such to the actions of their pedophile prophet, Muhammad.
When one is speaking of Islam; decadent, perverse, and many other similar types of adjectives cannot be overstressed. If one is travelling through a Sharia compliant zone in the future, and if ones vehicle displays a symbol of another religion, then would it not be reasonable to expect that one or one’s children could possibly become victims of a similar type Islamic perfidy as revealed below? Can’t happen here??? Think again!!!
Not for the weak stomach. This is sickening really!!! This is perfidy; this too is Islam!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq0BAZzHKg
It is like talking to Muslims, who say they believe in Jesus. But they believe He is a prophet, but they don’t say that.
that is deception, and we know who deceives? Don’t we!
They do not say they believe Jesus will come back as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. Deception.
The strongest defense against the lie that Jesus was a prophet, human and nothing more, is a knowledge of early Christian doctrine, how it became regularized and early heresies.
Two of the most influential of these were Arianism and Donatism.
A Donatist believes that all priests should be perfect– that they should be holy in and of themselves.
This is error.
In the Christian church and in Western civilization generally, it is the office of priest that is holy, it is the office of the president or king that is respected.
People who are morally dissolute who might misuse the office have hurt the office itself. Still, the officeholder is still human and is granted his humanity.
In Arianism, Jesus is below the Father and Holy Spirit, above all, he is inferior to the father.
Many heterodox churches take this position. It is error because it denies the Blessed Trinity, for which there is plenty of evidence in scripture.
To be either type of heretic is to open the door to Islam.
There is no such thing as “moderate Islam.” Either you’re a good Muslim, or you’re a bad Muslim. Either you allow an Islamic apostate to live, or you murder him Islamic style. Either you allow an Islamic adultress to live, or you stone her to death Muslim style. Either you allow a Muslim little girl to keep her clitoris, or you cut if off Islamic style. How can a Muslim be moderate here? It’s either good, or bad, and nothing else.
We must destroy the Organized Crime Syndicate of Islam before the Organized Crime Syndicate of Islam destroys us.
The objective of this site is to critique Islam and Islamic terrorism on the basis of the scriptural, doctrinal and practical content of Islam and its component cultures.
If these people don’t understand that, then they cannot name the enemy.
Again, there is the maxim from “the religion of peace”: don’t judge Islam by the Muslims you know, and don’t judge the Muslims you know by the standards of Islam.
The religion and culture itself must come under Western critique.
The way I see it, Loganswarning is the shape of things to come, as more Westerners see the difference between their traditions and those of the 7th-century warlord and mass murderer.
It cannot be stated enough: A Muslim is someone who practices Islam in their daily life. And Islam is based ENTIRELY on the belief that Mohammed was the last true prophet of God (Allah), and that what he “channeled” (the Koran), and whatever he said and did during his lifetime (according to the Hadiths) was endorsed by God (Allah).
Therefore, the followers of Mohammed—and his manifestation of Islam—BELIEVE they are acting with “Divine authority.” For them, they are living and manifesting God’s Will on Earth.
Consequently, the more “devout” a Muslim becomes, the more inspired he/she will be to establish Shariah (“Allah’s Divine Law”) throughout the world. How can one “moderate” the Word and Will of one’s “Creator”—Islam—and still be one of “the Faithful”?
The ONLY way someone can BE a “moderate Muslim”, is if they reject the practice of ISLAM; in which case they are no longer a Muslim.
Welcome to the site Lech!
The Muslim “prophet” Mohammad was an evil child molester and condoned slavery (which is also evil).
Logan’s warning is a genius with brilliant and 100% accurate insight about Islam. Those like Gaffney, Jasser and Gabriel need to step up their game and heed his wise counsel or continue to be a sham and laughing stock. The dubious moderate Islam is fully committed to destroying the USA as much as the militants. They are like the two hands of Islam strangling the life out of America.
Thanks for the compliment sir. But more importantly, thanks for your courage to speak the truth about Islam!
You damn right Islam is the problem, A HUGE PROBLEM!
Just think, if it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have Muslim Suicide Bombers. What other ideology or religion does these stupid things? There aren’t any because no one else is that stupid.
If it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have the murder of apostates. What other religion murders apostates? There isn’t one. I can thing of a Crime Syndicate that murders quitters. It’s called the Mafia. So Islam is like the Mafia. Stupid, stupid, stupid and evil, evil, evil.
If it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have depraved Muslim males legally raping underage little girls after their forced brutal “marriage” to these brutal SOBs (Sons Of the Beast).
If it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have women getting stoned to death.
If it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have thousands of Honor Killings every year. Just think; some poor, Muslim girl is murdered for being “too Westernized.” That’s stupid Islam.
If it weren’t for Islam, we wouldn’t have stupid Muslims committing suicide by flying planes into buildings. They’re so stupid that they think they get 72 virgins if they do that. Be honest. Is anyone else that stupid?
And the next time some stupid Muslim tells you that Islam doesn’t teach these atrocities, you tell that stupid Muslim that these damnable atrocities wouldn’t be happening if it weren’t for the depraved so-called stupid religion of Islam. Also, don’t fall for that damnable lie that Islam didn’t teach these things in the past. You damn right they did. Evil Muslims have always been very stupid.
WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM BEFORE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM DESTROYS US AND A FEW INNOCENT MUSLIMS.
WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIME SYNDICATE OF ISLAM BEFORE THE CRIME SYNDICATE OF ISLAM DESTROYS US, AND A FEW INNOCENT, GOOD MUSLIMS.
P.S. I know it’s hard to believe, but you will find a few good Muslims.
THE MASTER BUILDER. He restores my soul; He leads me in the path of righteousness for His name’s sake. Psalm 23:3 NJKV. It’d hard to see things grow old., The town in which I grew up is growing old…Some of the buildings are boarded up. Some of the houses are torn down…The old movie house where I took my dates has “For Sale” on the marquee…I wish I could make it all new again. I wish I could blow the dust off the street…but I can’t. I can’t. But God can. “He restores my soul,” wrote the shepherd. HE DOESN’T REFORM; HE RESTORES. HE DOESN’T CAMOUFLAGE THE OLD; HE RESTORES THE NEW.The Master Builder WILL PULL OUT THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND RESTORE IT.He will restore the vigor. He will restore the energy. He will restore the hope. He will restore the soul.The Applause of Heaven. GRACE FOR THE MOMENT written by Max Lucado. Jesus said, no one put a new patch on old clothing ,lest he tear the old and waste the new…What a waste reforming old Islam is, unless it is marching in the same step as both read from the same book, with dammnable hereseys and lies, and now even resorting to the most blatant lie and twisting historical facts, that Moses and Abraham were Muslims when Mr.Mohammad didn’t show up some 600 years later. That is inbred senility. Would stupid suffice? WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM BEFORE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM DESTROYS US AND A FEW INNOCENT MUSLIMS.WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIME SYNDICATE OF ISLAM BEFORE THE CRIME SYNDICATE OF ISLAM DESTROYS US, AND A FEW INNOCENT, GOOD MUSLIMS.
Lech Dahrm, you said it well in a nutshell
Jesus said,no one puts a new cloth on an old garment, lest he tears the old and wastes the new.So called Moderates march to the same tune as both read from the same book. Now those Scholars! came up with a new teaching against historical facts,s that Moses and Abraham were Muslims, when Mr Mohammad didn’t show up some 600 years later.What other lies are we being fed next? Islam cannot be reformed as the core itself is rotten. Again Lech Dahrm to leave Islam is the solution. However there are dire consequences and can only be dealt with, if the Law of the Land deals with Justice against such murders as we have witnessed here in Canada
Lech Dharma, I like your clear thinking.
Dear Chris
I thank you again from my heart for all your hard work. The problem is the jihadists are so well organised and now joining up with lefties AND neo-nazis, while we are scattered and seem to exist mostly on the internet. How can we arrange ONE big anti jihad movement against the vilification and lies of the mainstream media?
By Mansoor Hekmat
“You cannot only fight the political Islamic movements in question and build a firm barricade against them without further challenging their thoughts…What is clear is that when you come face to face with movements, which threaten freethinkers like Taslima Nasrin with death, you are obliged to once again refer to the Koran and say that this reaction is feeding from a well, which exactly formulates all this backwardness. The Koran could have been a historical book like many other historical books; people could look at it and not show much sensitivity but when a movement makes it the banner of a contemporary political struggle, then people are forced to take its banner from it, review it, look at it and throw it away. Otherwise, suppose it was for example like Ferdowsi’s Shahnameh that could be put in a corner and most likely not referred to much. If you refer to any old book, you will definitely find much reaction. But when the movement itself, at the end of the 20th century, is adamant to use this Koran in its war against socialist parties, trade unions and women’s organisations, then in my opinion women, workers and socialists are obliged to take its banner from it and discredit it.”
I’m thinking appeasement to Islam has several supporting factors.
1. The powerful desire not to offend people particularly 1.3 billion of them.
2. The embedded belief that Islam is one of the world’s 3 great religions.
3. The relativist notion that all religions and cultures are equal and deserving of respect.
4. The belief that Islam can reform.
5. Fear and cowardice.
Also there is probably a hint of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ from some Liberals. In my opinion all of these positions are wrong, including #5, and easily shown to be so.
Also the desire not to be branded a “bigot” or “racist”. When in fact, those are just empty talking pointed designed to silence the critics of Islam.
Thanks, have a good weekend!