Unfortunately as Islam creeps into our society, I continue to come across more and more information about Christians who support Islam. They obviously know very little about Islam, and to make matters worse they do not even want to take the time to do their own research.
Hat tip to Maggy.
This video is from 2008, but it needs to been seen and forwarded to others.
Of course the Muslim in the video conveniently left out these tidbits of information.
Muslims are to dominate Christians:
Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
According to the Islamic scriptures, Jesus will come back and destroy Christianity:
Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 55, Number 657:
Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it.” Abu Huraira added “If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): — ‘And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them.” (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)
Does any of that sound Christianity friendly? As a whole the Church had better wake up very soon! Or our children will surely suffer under Islamic rule. Speak out….
I believe the Church’s website can be found HERE. But I was having a lot of problems going through its pages.
The woman at the beginning talks about the interiority of faith.
This is only the thinnest thread on which to hang a relationship between two institutions whose scope and creeds are so vastly different and even contradictory.
And no, I don’t think it’s going to work.
She’s basing her relationship strategy on something that will crash under the weight of conflict.
A conflict she refuses to address.
Some things are real.
They don’t go away just because the years pass.
The pertinent line here… Jesus was a human being and an aposttle of Allah.
No, no, this is poison! Jesus is the Living Son of God, and it is thru his death on the Cross that our sins are forgiven and He is our only hope of ever entering Heaven.
I also have a question– interfaith dialogue takes place in churches.
What, precisely, happens in mosques?
It’s pretty obvious that a Christian cannot pray in a Mosque, bring a Bible or prayer-book, and invoke the Blessed Trinity therein.
It’s a one-way street, as with all pislam things!! Take, take, take!
Always demand definition of terms!!! Peace? What is peace? How is it made??
Always examine form and content. Google Dua; examine the content of the “voluntary prayers”. What is meant by “give us victory over the disbelieving folk”?
What does the Koran teach about Jesus? Is he God’s son, or only a human slave and “messenger”? Was he crucified? Did he die on the cross? Was he resurrected?
What do the hadith teach about Jesus? Is he inferior to Moe? What will he do when he returns? Will he rule the world by the Bible or the Koran? Who will exterminate the Jews?
If you can not answer those questions, if you do not know where to find the answers–then read this blog post:
http://snooper.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/the-defamation-of-jesus-christ/
Send that post to your Pastor & Deacons.
When the Imam comes to visit, demand answers to these questions:
Why do you curse us? [1:6-7, 2:161, 3:61, 9:30, 8:55, 98:6, 60:4]
Why do you wage war against us? [9:29, 123]?
Be an asspain. Stick out like a sore toe. Ask the ineffable questions. If you are shunned as a result, find an open minded church, disaffiliate from the bigots.
How appalling.
Would this woman pastor bring in a satanist to discover how they worship too? Would these parents allow their children to worship satan at the behest of such a guest? I think not. So, what makes this different?
What do they think that the God of the Bible, who declares Himself to be the only God, as well as a jealous God, would think of them allowing this man to come in and direct prayer, in His house, to another God?
Why doesn’t this pastor know that the god of Islam is not the same as the God of the Bible?
Truly appalling.
I think it would be quite fair to ask her such a question.
Would she allow a LaVey Satanist to come in for some interfaith dialogue?
How about any of the neo-Pagans in the area?
Why not a Jain? Or a Hindu?
Everyone I mentioned above is different from Islam in that they have no aspirations of world conquest.
I have never seen a Satanist blow up buildings in the name of Satan.
Islam is profane.
It never ceases to amaze me that the avowed Pagan or Satanist is more morally structured than the Muslim ever dreamed of being.
It goes to show that there’s more to Western Civilization than just dead ideas or principles.
I agree with you, it`s truly shocking and shows how much ignorance is in the churh concerning Islam!
Those poor children too are being indoctrinated into believing this evil cult is okay!
I`m speechless!
Well where this particular church went wrong is in having a female pastor this is absolutly unbiblical, therefore in my humble opinion this is not a christian church but another cult (ie) Mormons, Apiscopalians, Jehova Witness, and the worse cult of all Islam. I have lost 4 of my brother Marines to Islamic Jihad and I say the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim. But it is not my place to judge it is Gods place it is just my job to arrange the meeting.
Female preachers are far from unbiblical.
In the time that the New Testament was being written and just after the Resurrection, women were extremely important in spreading the Christian faith through THE SPOKEN WORD!
Your knowledge of Christian tradition needs improvement.
exactly, eib.
Welcome to the site Chuck!
It looked like a church of pious Liberals. Who else would send their impressionable children to be indoctrinated by Lucifer.
Here, here! WELL stated, indeed!
To them who think we can be intimidated,
Bring it!
The Hypocracy of this is amazing, There are not one christian church in Saudi, in Nigeria churches burn, in Europe they openly preach about the fall of Europe and the west, and like lambs being lead to the slaughter these people willingly give up all they were told was true…People, I am christian with a very small c, I hardly attend church and I would rather die fighting, than to see my kids enslaved and persecuted.
Welcome to the site Edmontonrocks!
I hate these people. Was there any reciprocation? Did Muslims pray to the Christian God on their knees?
I feel the same way. I know I shouldn’t hate,but these are despicable people. I wish we could send them all back from where they came from.
well how do you wanna get rid of pedophilia? The church invented it, patented it, and they certainly don’t wanna outsource it?
Prove the Church invented it. If you were really against pedophilia, you would condemn Mohammad and Islam. But of course you do not.
Wasnt Mohammeds wife like 9 years old?
Here you go.
https://loganswarning.com/2010/08/24/questions-for-the-muslims-who-read-this-site/
Are you an Oilers fan?
I am, a little disgruntled at this point, but another 1st round draft pick will probably help out
You are an ignoramus. Read the John Jay report if you want to inform yourself before you comment on the church. You know nothing about it except what you see in the mainstream papers,not a good source for educating yourself. Do not exploit the grave sins of a handful of priests to advance your sick “stone age pagan war cult”. Child rape is institutional in islam. Will the imams appoint an independent analysis of this sadistic system anytime soon? How many innocent children born under the slavery of islam must suffer rape and torture by perpetrators and enablers like you and for how long? This is what you need to ask yourself and your cohorts. In the meantime people like Christopher will, thank God, because we know you won’t.
@Edmonton…
Sounds like my Isles. I remember when the Oilers ended our dynasty. Grant Fuhr was flopping all over the place. What a goalie!
He still lives in the edmonton area, yes, the dynasty years for the Isles and then The Oil were happy times for hockey in our cities….of course, we’re a small market team and couldnt hang onto the likes of Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Fuhr, Anderson etc. forever..too bad, I attended many a game as a kid when they were on top of the world
Why would this pastor, and I use the title lightly, ever permit such an abomination to take place within the church?
It is stuff like this that can take place when we violate Gods’ commands as in 1 Tim 2:12-14.
There is no Reciprication of this going on in the world, we have christians bowing to mecca, and yet I dont see a crusifix in the background at a mosque in any attempt to bridge the gap…its all about them gaining our trust so they can subvert us later…right now the non-muslim is the majority in the western world, but look at the areas where the muslims and christians are on an equal footing, such as nigeria, or worse, in areas of the world where they are the majority. Such attempts of friendship dont exist, just killing and burning. If our hand gets bit, do we keep reaching back into the animal cage to become friends with the beast? I think not.
This is all wrong!
What has light to do with darkness?
Barry Smith, an evangelist, who went to be with the Lord a few years ago told us this would happen before the Lord returns in the End Days. He said many religions will join together for worship, which is an abomination to Almighty God!
This is a false religion, in fact from the father of lies. There is no compatibility with this evil cult!
Well stated.
Isn’t Bridges the organization that was founded by the devout Islamist who beheaded his wife and was sentenced to life in prison.
Hi,
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,493645,00.html
Ignorant blasphemers. Lack of education in the Christian faith.
This is the result of the wishy washy combined with reformers. Boy are they in for rude awakening or should I say beheading. Infadel I kill you!!!
All confusion would have been removed, and the the whole purpose of this experiment made crystal clear if one of these children had raised a hand to say “Jesus Christ is King”.
Not exactly provocative, since this imam was hosted by a supposedly Christian church.
Exposing children to this indoctrination is patently unfair, since they are in an inferior position vs. the adult who is speaking.
“…forehead to the floor to show him that we are willing to do everything to please him to bring about peace and justice in this world… Look to the right and say ‘peace be with you’. Look to the left and say ‘peace be with you’. …BECAUSE AS MUSLIMS WE ARE TAUGHT THAT PRAYER IS SUPPOSED TO TEACH US TO MAKE PEACE WITH OTHERS. So I make peace with those who are on by extreme right; I make peace with those who are on my extreme left; I come back to myself. I CAN BE FULLY MUSLIM YET MAKE PEACE WITH ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT FROM ME.”
THE FOLLOWING ARE MUSLIMS WHO ARE TAUGHT THAT PRAYER IS SUPPOSED TO TEACH US TO MAKE PEACE WITH OTHERS. “TO MAKE PEACE WITH ALL PEOLE WHE ARE DIFFERENT FROM ME.”
Friday, thousands of people gathered in Mazar-e-Sharif’s revered Blue Mosque…. The protesters then surprised police by pouring into the street and marching toward the U.N… Inside the building, other attackers targeted one of the safe rooms. The door proved little protection against the mob. As intruders penetrated the safe room…”Are you Muslim?” the assailants asked Mr. Ershov… Mr. Ershov lied and said he was…The assailants tested him by asking him to recite the traditional profession of belief in Islam, which begins, “There is no God but Allah.”
When he successfully completed the test, his life was spared. Still, he was dragged into the street and beaten badly, according to a local shopkeeper who… participated in the assault.
The attackers searched the darkened bunker with a lamp and discovered Lt. Col. Siri Skare, a 53-year-old Norwegian military attaché…She was shot with the rifle commandeered from the police officer … Skare died of her wounds…
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576241110591067484.html
“They were just out of control,” Masih said. “Shoaib and his men broke the glass altar of the church, threw copies of the Bible towards the wall and desecrated the cross.”
“The loudspeakers on mosques are used all day long for prayers and sermons,
http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/article_113212.html
More prayerful muslims making peace with others.
Nothing proclaims the profanity of Islam than the behavior of Muslims.
Ye shall judge them by their fruits.
We do.
This is tantamount to negligence by the church.
One would expect pastors, reverends, priests and rabbis to know about religion or at least have an understanding of each religion. They are leaders of communities and as such should have a duty of care.
The video reminds me of lambs being led to the slaughter.
No wonder Islam sneaked in to Christian countries so easily – we are so naive!
Hi Jake,
Christians are the majority in America. If they do not wake up soon, I do not see us winning this war.
Satan at his best – the Father of all lies. How foolish these adults are. And to allow this into your church and teach and lie to your children is insane irresponsible.
Because of our surrendering churches, Muslims have not been given the true measure of the issues of holiness and profanity in Christianity.
They really don’t believe that Christians can distinguish between the sacred and the profane, and so they can take advantage of churches like these, and woefully-misled pastors like this.
For these children to be indoctrinated like this only speaks ill of their parents. And for this to happen in the first place speaks about the weakness of these church clergy. Politics in the church always leads to eventual weakness and misplaced priorities. As anyone who is educated even a small amount in the lies of Islam, you would know that falsehoods about Islam’s peace are preached to unsuspecting Americans while hatred, bigotry, and narrowmindedness are preached from mosques in Islamic countries. If islam spreads to America and starts its call to prayers in our neighborhoods as it already has in some cities, people will see with their own eyes how it is not a religion but a system of repression, a means of control, and a way to propagate the lies of muhammed, an illiterate uneducated warmonger pedophile, who is a satanic substitute for Jesus. As a true beleiver in God through Jesus Christ, I dont need to be reminded to pray several times a day from any institutional loudspeaker. I pray when I feel the need to, whenever I need to, as I feel the responsibility of my relationship with God through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is mine to maintain. There is no reason anyone should have to submit in this Islamic fashion to have a true relationship with God. Over and over again they bow in unison, developing the mark of prostration on their foreheads. The reason that there is so much submission in their religion is that it is constantly needed to maintain their faith. Reliance on constant outward showing of conformity to practices of Islam by obeying the “laws” of Islam and the need to show this to others is done because in order to be a good muslim, others must see you submitting in order for that to happen. How does your relationship with God flourish or progress without the Holy Spirit? The reliance upon religious practices and repetetive actions only serves to produce a religious, self-righteous spirit. And man is that ever so obvious. The FACT that Islam and the time of muhammed came along some time after Jesus was crucified and ressurected only indicates that it is a response to what already happened.Satan needed to reestablish a system of laws in his own favor after being defeated by Jesus at the cross. One of his tactics is to use the law to control and repress people. To twist it out of its original intent. How nice of Islam to cherrypick figures from other religions and adopt them as their own. How convenient for the people who are outside of God’s grace to just “make up things as they go along”, which is obviously what happened in many respects. At first in the Qu’ran Mohhammed speaks of peace, but when he sees that war is profitable later on he changes his mind. What consistency. And the need for Islam to supress other religions as it does in Islamic countries only points to it fallicies.If they were correct in their ways then the Spirit of God would be among them, but its not, so they have to impose it. There is no reason to force the truth on other people, because one cannot be forced to accept the truth in reality, only to submit to an opressor so that they will not be harmed or killed.To truly know God is to understand that he would never force anyone to accept His truth and grace,but if you ever had a true encounter with the Holy Spirit you would know it and would submit out of love to Him, because to know God is to know peace. For most of my life I had questions about God. I understand peoples desire to find out because I once was searching in the same way. I grew up a “christian” but never had much spiritual guidance only the benefits of a biblical upbringing. It wasn’t until I received the baptism in the Holy Spirit did I understand and truly know God. So much power, love and purity. I understand why people don’t accept this because I realized that it is a foreign concept to relate power, love and forgivness together in any way that does Him any understandable justice. In the world, power is equated to law enforcement, government, military, certain public figures, ect. And these are the things that Islam targets in a takeover. You see, God freed me from that thinking, but Islam would enslave me again. It was because of His will that I received the baptism in the Holy Spirit, not because of who I was, or anything that I did or could do.
Paul states that the letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the law gives life. Now what does that mean? The law of God supported by His spirit would give correct meaning and understanding, but lack of His spirit(basically lack of His support) would cause people to try to understand and enforce the law on their own, under their own power and authority. And my wish is to convey that this is what Islam is. Self-righteous behavior, religious spiritism, a worldly enforcement of their law. They aren’t supported by the Holy Spirit because quite simply they deny the divinity of Jesus. And anytime that happens, you open yourself up to the spirit of the anti-christ. Who will gladly take over things for you and flip you upside down and inside out. If you think that there isn’t such a thing you are sadly mistaken. There is a powerful force that opposes Jesus Christ, opposes the Holy Spirit. Consequently speaking, there is a massive spiritual battle going on. To deny this is just a way of sticking you head in the sand. There is no middle ground.
“…unsuspecting Americans while hatred, bigotry, and narrowmindedness are preached from mosques in Islamic countries.”
Don’t forget {ground zero)Imam Rauf: “…pick up shovels…for jihad” etc. I believe he said something to that effect, correct me if I am wrong.
Hi Jonathon,
Here are some links on the call to prayer.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/01/14/brooklyn-another-mosque-blasts-call-to-prayer-for-all-to-hear/
https://loganswarning.com/2011/01/05/nyc-muslim-prayer-broadcast-onto-streetsvideos/
https://loganswarning.com/2010/12/18/its-6-in-the-morning/
I agree, there will be no middle ground. It will be our way of life, or Sharia.
Thanks Mom!