In the past I have challenged Islamic apologist’s such as Alan Colmes, Harvard’s Dr. Cesari, and Professor Juan Cole to debate me on Islam. Usually they do not have the courage to show up, or they quickly run away as Juan Cole did. Late last night I saw an Islam loving article written by Progressive Radio New Hour’s Stephen Lendman. He is tonight’s Challenge Target!
A little background on Lendman:
Stephen Lendman.
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Stephen Lendman is a renowned author and Research Associate of the Center for Research on Globalization (CRG). He is based in Chicago and has written extensively on war and peace, social justice in America and many other national and international issues. Stephen Lendman is a recipient of a 2008 Project Censored Award, University of California at Sonoma.
Onto his Islam loving article:
by Stephen Lendman
America’s dirty war, in fact, targets Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, political activists, and Muslims for their faith, ethnicity, and at times prominence and charity, exploiting them as “war on terror” scapegoats.
On July 9, a Press TV US prison system racket interview highlighted the problem and urgency to address it, accessed through the following link:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/188396.html
America’s media ignore how unjustly it harms millions of disadvantaged people. Instead, they regurgitate spurious high-profile case accusations, always when Muslims are affected. Most often they’re men, occasionally women, bogusly charged with terrorism or conspiracy to commit it, when, in fact, they’re guilty only of being targets of choice and/or being in America at the wrong time.
Why Muslims when, in fact, Islam teaches love, not hate; peace, not violence; charity, not selfishness; and tolerance, not terrorism; or that Islam, Christianity and Judaism have common roots.
Who’d know though in today’s climate of hate and fear at a time America wages global wars on Islam, including at home.
Stephen makes a lot of claims about Islam but he doesn’t not back them up with anything other than his word. A word that should not be regarded as fact.
SL said: “Why Muslims when, in fact, Islam teaches love, not hate;“
Koran verse 049.007
YUSUFALI: And know that among you is Allah’s Messenger: were he, in many matters, to follow your (wishes), ye would certainly fall into misfortune: But Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you Unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion: such indeed are those who walk in righteousness;-
Do you see the word “hate” in that verse Lendman?
SL said: “peace, not violence;“
Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Stephen, can you deny the call for violence in Koran verse 9:29?
SL said: “charity, not selfishness;
What Lendman fails to mention is that 1/8 of zakat (charity) goes to those fighting the jihad.
h8.17 The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been alloted in the army roster. They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses.
SL said: “tolerance, not terrorism;”
Koran verse 008.060
YUSUFALI: Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
Do you see the word “terror” in that verse Lendman?
SL said: “or that Islam, Christianity and Judaism have common roots.”
As I showed you earlier Lendman, Islam calls for the dominance of Christians and Jews, and also instructs Muslims NOT to befriend them. The “common roots” you mentioned are meaningless.
Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
“Writers” like Lendman only make the job of our enemies easier. Lendman can be reached at: [email protected]. Let’s see if he shows up.
I just sent Lendman the following email.
Stephen,
I was wondering if you would care to defend your comments on Islam?
https://loganswarning.com/2011/07/12/challenge-target-progressive-radio-news-hours-stephen-lendman/
Thank you,
Chris
Peace, not violence?
Well, don’t tell that to Lara Logan.
And really, don’t tell that to Asia Bibi either.
How about the Berg and Pearl families. The PEACE these families have to live with is unimaginable.
I don’t think we will ever run out of apologist for some of the most foul and evil actors in this world. There seems to always be some delusional fool around that claims that the evil isn’t really or that maybe it’s not so bad….in the name of protecting the helpless or keeping the peace. Sadly it almost always end badly for them. But, we’ll never run out of assholes on this planet either….they breed as we speak I think. I admire that you try to face them down, evrn though their twisted thinking and denial makes any conclusive or even cognative discussion all but impossible. Keep it up though Chris, some of the truth might penetrate some time.
“Delusional Fool” Great title for Progressive Radio. One of them is stationed right here in my area. He as much a admits he can do nothing else with his fictional world than talk about it.
I’m sorry but you just sound like an old hater to me. Have fun with that.
Hi Becky,
Islam calls for my dominance, and allows slavery. Please explain what I am supposed to like about it.
Thank you.
Becky, why is it hateful to quote the Koran? The Koran is one of the world’s great works of love, isn’t it?
My friend Mr Logan only touched the surface of all the love-quotes in that book. And he didn’t even start into the Sunnas and Hadeeth. You should see all the “love” there he missed out! It would freeze your soul.
So tell me, why is HE a hater for quoting THEIR book?
No response from Becky???
Mahoundian arse-lifter Troll.
And now that you’ve called us haters, can you hate us with a clean conscience?
Because that’s what you do.
Tell me Becky, have you noticed any strange patterns in the news lately? Is there any trend or recurring type of thing going on in the world?
If you visit the site below,, you will see that there have been over 17,000 attacks by muslim extremists in which people have died since 9-11. Thats a lot of suffering Becky. That doesnt count the people who just got a limb blown off or got blinded. Are Mr Logan and I full of hate because we bewail those deaths? Maybe the people who would ignore those deaths are the true haters.
http:\\www.thereligionofpeace.com
17,000 is a lot of attacks. Do you see a trend developinf there Becky?
I wonder if the fact that fundamentalist Muhammadan Islam is responsible for 270 million deaths and victimizations since its inception and rise to prominence in the early 7th century indicates 1,400 year traditions of benevolent people and a peaceful religion?
Also, the fact that 97% of terrorist attacks and mass murders around the world today are committed by Muhammadan Muslims, 90% of which are perpetrated upon their own people, tells me there may be something of a trend going on here.
Stephen Lendman is another deluded fool (2 Thessalonians 2:11), maybe a planted disinformation artist, not unlike Hesham Tillawi (Palestinian) who continues to spew lies and propaganda.
Good job, Chris.
We have a dhimmi dodo in the house..BECKY SHAW…wow, Becky, ever hear of 9/11? If only that, you should know something..And guess what: BECKY DHIMMI DODO..the mosque is a victory mosque…you will be conquered, Becky DODO…Do you like wearing a garbage bag on your head? Do you know that Islam is planning on making the world a caliphate? that they want to KILL all Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc? That they are doing mass slaughter right now all over the world? That the KORAN commands them to kill Jews and Christians?
Do you know that right here, in the USA, honor killings and terror attacks you don’t even hear about are happening? Do you know that OBAMA is in bed with muz brotherhood? Do you know what THAT is?
You better wake up to the ISALMONAZIS’ agenda, BECKY DODO DHIMMI…and guess what, DODO…the Nazis were in cahoots with muslims ..you need to READ..you PC liberal moron…
Her link goes to an abstract art page. This is probably too cubist for her. Maybe just about anything is too cubist for her.
Here is my e-mail to Lendman
Dear Mr Lendman,
With all due respect, sir, your whitewashing of muslim extremist violence helps no one, least of all moderate muslims.
Do you not see that moderate muslims need courageous non-muslims to speak the truth about the violent men who are hijacking their religion?
Surely you are not arguing that all of the 17,000 plus brutal attacks since 9-11 are being trumped up? You are not pretending that there is nothing whatsoever going on within the whole spectrum of the Islamic faith? Please tell me you are not playing crisis what crisis.
Moderate muslims are living in the shadows of a terrible Imperialist movement going on among militant Islam, and unless we resist it, moderate muslims will continue to be victimized in ho r rendous ways.
Moderates cannot speak out. They are in the line of fire. The slightest movement towards modernization can easily result in assassination.
Moderates and non-muslims need public figures such as you to think of the victims first, and speak truth to power.
Sincerely,
Clive Lewis
I tried to twist his brain a little. I hope it worked. His kind can be stubborn.
P.S. infidellovesisraelandamerica is telling the truth, Becky. You should pay attention.
well, the fact that he believes Press tv– Iran (lol) is a problem in itself. He is an ‘accomplished’ author who has done nothing objectively to study the subject at hand. Islam. I would love to see that debate! Islam cannot stand up to the truth.
Kudos: Bob is Great and Darla NSFE.
I wonder how an author does no research? Very odd. I am an author and I research everything..down to minutia…
He sticks to a narrow range of Progressive authors and dismisses all fact so as not to disturb the inbreeding.
You are right New Crusader, a lot of Left leaning people only read within their ideology. It is possible to go for ever with only hearing a customized leftwing world view. Imagine how pathetically informed you would be if all you ever knew was what main stream journalists were willing to tell you. You’d be as dumb as Becky Shaw! (poor thing). You would know NOTHING. You would not know that the thousands of violent incidents in the last 50 years were ALL part of one jihadi movement. You’d be all “oh another bomb went off today I wonder whos doing it this time?”
This worries me. How do we communicate beyond just ourselves?
Keep informing friends and family. At first they are a little annoyed, (never be too pushy) after all who wants to be taken from their comfort zone – I sure didn’t. But once they start to wake up it is all well worth it. The more we know the more we can act. Write you politicians, and hold you local leaders accountable as much as possible. The larger the number of people who are trying the more they have to pay attention. Boycott companies that cater to islam and let them know it. Every company DEPENDS on ALL of it’s customers. They NEED to keep every one and add as many as possible in order to keep up with rising costs. Perusing Christopher’s site will lead to several pages about just that. Look for and respond to those who sponsor islamic events in your area. Attend when you can, LEARN, and get involved.
Great job as always, Chris!
Thanks!
Becky has contracted the disease of Liberalism and like all victims of the disease she only has one defense in uncomfortable situations: to accuse those she can not prove wrong of being “haters”.
Becky Shaw, maybe you should consider yourself lucky that you don’t live in a backward Muslim Third World Country. If you did, you’d probably be running around without a clitoris. Now, wouldn’t that just be lovely? Muslim sadists just love to chop off clitorises of little girls. There are about 140,000,000 Muslim women and little girls running around without a clitoris. The God of Love, the God of the Christians and Jews, endows women with a clitoris, and the Muslim god, Satan, also known as Allah, convinces brain lame Muslim sadists that they should chop off clitorises of little girls. And they lovingly do it.
You would also be unlucky to have a Muslim husband who can legally beat his wife whenever he is displeased. Yes, that Allah, actually Satan, gives permission for Muslim husbands to beat their wives. Oh my, all those Muslim loving acts. Is that what you want?
And that’s not all Becky. If your Muslim husband decides that you’re not giving him sufficient love, or if he’s just plain tired of you, he can legally marry another woman. In the meantime, you’ll be sleeping alone in your own bed. Now, isn’t that just lovely?
And Becky, how would you love to live in Afghanistan where the Taliban won’t let you get an education? Isn’t that just lovely? In fact, some Muslim Suicide Bomber might just blow up the school where you are attending. How lovely, indeed!!! I don’t know why I say “Muslim Suicide Bomber.” Actually it’s redundant because Muslims are the only stupid people that commit suicide in order to murder innocent people, and even those that are not innocent. Becky, it wouldn’t matter if you’re not innocent. Those Suicide Bombers would still get you. And you would be dead, dead, dead, killed by a loving Muslim.
Becky, and supposing you weakened and made the mistake and committed adultery. Muslim sadists would lovingly stone you to death. You see; depraved Muslim male sex pervert are allowed to commit adultery, but not the women. All a Muslim male pervert has to do is take another woman as a “wife” and have sex with her with impunity. But not you Baby. You’re not allowed to take another husband. If you do that, the Muslims will stone you to death for adultery. You see; only the Muslim males are permitted to practice hypocrisy. Becky, there is much more, and if you can take it, let me know and I’ll fill you in. Good bye for now Becky.
I think those who preach in favour of Islam want to see themselves as ‘rescuers’ and saints. Why let the truth get in the way of their pathetic aims?
Becky Shaw, come to England, see and hear the attempts of Muslims to dominate this small island. A Muslim woman was punished for wanting to leave her husband. Her hands were cut off and she was left dying in the street. No need to be secretive or subtle. A teacher had his face and limbs broken and stamped on for teaching Muslim girls about all religions as is required in the curriculum.
Posters are going up in three boroughs of London declaring them to be under sharia law. All dancing, music, concerts, alcohol, smoking, porn are to be banned and those who ignore the notices will come up against (quote) thousands of sharia police.If you are an artist then forget it under sharia law as only Allah can make images.
If you already live in the UK I can direct you to places where non-Muslims fear to go. Only their hard earned dosh is welcomed via state handouts.
We are all offended. Am I allowed to say that? 🙁
Bob is Great. I guess you’re Muslim. You sound like it. My dear friend, how deluded you are. If you are a good person, then, you must understand that YOU’RE NOT A MUSLIM!!!! Why are there so many good Muslims who can’t understand that????
Did you know that Osama bin Laden was a true Muslim practicing his religion of Islam? Why can’t you get it straight Bob? Osama bin Laden was a true Muslim practicing his religion.
Islam believes that all women should be relegated to second class status. Do you? If not, then why do you call yourself a Muslim?
Islam teaches that women should have their clitorises chopped off. Do you? If not, then why do you call yourself a Muslim?
Bob, if you don’t believe in Honor Killing, murder of apostates, polygamy, legal wife beating, legalized adultery, stoning women to death, and many more bad things about Islam, then, why call yourself a Muslim. Look, friend, if you’re truly a good Muslim, then, you’re a good Christian. Check it out and you’ll see that I’m correct. May the True God bless you, and not Allah because Allah teaches only bad things.
To me, if you are an apologist for Muslims, then, like Lendman, you are a Muslim.
I see what you mean TD but, I was just trying to approach it in the only way lendman could cope with it. I was just taking a more liberal line so he couldnt dismiss me as a “hater.” ( I do think many muslims are in the line of fire if they try to moderate, though.)
Its true TD I am a devoted Christian and I appreciate very much your words on that. If i am “good” is not for me to decide! 😉 Every muslim needs to hear what you are saying.
Yes, it’s true. When we paint the truth the way it is, liberals, and other evil people will call us haters simply because they can’t argue logically. Even Jesus was hated because He always called a spade a spade. How evil people hated that!!! They hated it so much that they crucified Jesus. And believe it or not, but liberals and other evil people would crucify us too if they could get away with it. But so what? We must continue telling the raw truth whether evil people like it or not. The most evil people can do is call us “a hater.”
As of now Stephen has not responded to my email.
“And believe it or not, but liberals and other evil people would crucify us too if they could get away with ”
I do believe it. The Left are only restrained by what they can get away with. I do noy trust those people. We wrestle with powers and principalities.
What a disgusting bunch of tripe these people have come up with. Ken O’Keefe is a genuine moron. I wonder if they took the time to review the wonderful prison system of Iran, run by the quanic leadership of the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Madman Armedanddangerous. One of the differences between our prisons and those in Iran, is that their thugs memorize the quran and become Imams, jailing all those who won’t. Our thugs go to jail. Maybe they’re suffering from discernaphobia – “military industrial complex, or the Wall Street industrial complex, or the prison industrial complex” – life is just too complex for them.
Another bomb-blast in the same old senseless pathetic filthy hell-hole of my country – Mumbai.
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Those morons that were shouting Saffron terror (and that’s the Defense Minister Palaniappan Chidamabaram, nonetheless, mind you) – will now jump & do what-not to ensure that this terror attack, even though it’s supposedly the islamic gift from “Indian Mujahideen”, gets branded as a RELIGION-less terror attack.
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A few filthy pathetic hindooooos die yet again – as we’ve continued to remain spineless, foolish, pathetic, filthy, dirty & completely detestable (and in my case self-hating). We died to ensure the mountain got a name for itself as Killer of the hindooo slaves – Hindu Kush. Now, I’m waiting for Mumbai to be renamed to something like Jihadabaad or Jihadistan or Mujahidipur – may be then the most reverred & most RELIGIOUS PIOUS *brave* terrorists may choose to leave these swine-like filthy hindooooo brethren of mine to survive. Oh, wait, who am I kidding.
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So, to all Muslims (especially moderate ones that believe in a PEACEFUL Islam), keep making that zakat donation & keep supporting the jihadi cause & sharia-cause – and obviously continue your al-taqqiya. Just note one minor thing. Today, it’s us dirty, filthy, swine-like hindoooo kafirs – tomorrow, it will be the Ahmadis & the Sufis (actually that’s already happening today in Pakistan), and then it will be Shias or the Barelvis or the Deobandis. Finally even the salafi & the wahabbi will not be spared – and I assure you that much.
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As a responsible citizen that has only UNITY as the goal, let’s all celebrate our Muslim brethren & their most peaceful religion.
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Allahu akbar
Khudah hafiz~!
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PS: I am a Hindu & I was born & raised in India (obviously an Indian citizen as well). I merely express my angst, frustration & lethargy the world-over to find the root-cause of this symptom (these terror attacks & calls for Sharia law and what-not – these are merely symptoms indicating a deep-rooted issue/anomaly).
as Native American, I find that repugnant, that My people would be used to shield muslims from the critisim they deserve, I find it repulsive anyone can read the quran, know of it’s taqyyia and kitman verses, and then deny there is any Honesty issue with muslims, anyone who knows of these verse cannot in good conscience believe a Word any Muslim says….Period, they simply have NO credibility now that their playbook is open, I would like to ask after watching the youtube about “Debating and frustrating an infidel”……just how these pro muslim advocates explain themselves………I’ll be waiting.
I think it might be rather easy for Muslims to ingratiate themselves with Native Americans. After all, they have not come in sailing ships with odd technologies and above all, they are not carrying genocidal bacteria and viruses on and in their bodies.
When Native Americans encountered Western culture, they did not adopt it– they carefully analyzed it, evaluated which aspects of it they could use and which they could not. In other words, they believed that culture had components, and that they could choose for themselves what they wanted of it.
Now that’s a very democratic and forward-looking thing to do. And in every sense, particularly intellectually and rhetorically, Native Americans have been brilliant.
But Muslims will not allow any addition culturally– they will not allow their own culture to be analyzed and evaluated.
If you revert to Islam, you submit.
You destroy everything that came before Islam.
You hate everything that is not Islam.
And above all, you destroy everything that is not Islam. That means bricks and blood.
If Native Americans believe they will be able to keep their cultures even somewhat intact under Islam, they’d better think again. Where Christianity was here and there a replacement theology– Islam is invariably a replacement theology.
Where Westerners demanded land, Muslims will demand the submission of your soul.
And so Native Americans must decide which is the more evil.
I’ve often commented cynically that the British are the new Irish, concerning the problem of militant Islam in Britain.
I fear that in the future I’ll be writing that non-Muslim Americans will have to fight against genocide in the same way Native Americans have in their contact with Westerners.
Or perhaps in the same way the Tibetans have had to fight the Chinese.
This guy needs to learn a lesson. When you are uninformed, you keep your mouth shut or you ask some questions. My five year old knows more about Islam then this stephen what’s his name fool.
He needs to retract his statements and publicly apologize to the muslims for misrepresenting them as a peaceful anything. Dominance is their goal. Jihad is their game.
I’m afraid types like Lendman are thoroughly hopeless. With some other PC MCs, it might be worth our time to try to persuade them. But not Lendman.
When we have a Nuremberg 2 trial in the decades ahead (probably no less than 50 years from now, unfortunately), the Lendmans of the West will be put on trial for treason and punished accordingly. As the law says, “ignorance of the law is no defense”.
I e-mailed this guy yesterday and asked him why he hasn’t responded. Still no response to this site or my e-mail. I guess for a public figure who likes to speak out against America it is just to “complex” to engage an audience here in the homeland that may not be willing to just rubber stamp a yes on everything he says.
Still no response. Thanks for pitching in Crusader!