In this follow-up to the “More Than 50 U.S. Churches Agree to Hold Koran Readings!!” article, we see another Christian “leader” who is foolishly taking a stand for Islam.
Christians, Jews and Muslims to Share Pulpits
Churches across the States will be opening up their pulpits to clergy from the Jewish and Muslim faiths.
What is the point of being a Christian if you are going to promote other religions?
A few synagogues and mosques have also signed up to the Faith Shared project being hosted by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First on June 26.
For one day only, clergy will take to the different pulpits to read from their own scriptures.
Father Pat Earl, pastor of St. Peter Parish in Charlotte, North Carolina, told the Catholic News Service it was a “good thing for the church” to publicly recognize the existence of Islam.
Actually speaking out against Islam would be a “good thing for the Church”, and America.
He said he had been inspired to sign up to the initiative after hearing reports from Charlotte-based interfaith group Mecklenburg Ministries that local Muslims were suffering with the fear of Islamophobia.
Pastor, did you even begin to ask yourself why non-Muslims speak out against Islam? Did you ever ask yourself why Christians are persecuted across the Islamic world? Do you really think it is all just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Islam?
The Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, encouraged churches to get involved in order to make a statement about pluralism and religious freedom.
Reverend, if you are for religious freedom why are you promoting Islam? Let’s take a look at “religious freedom” in accorddance to Islamic Law.
JUSTICE CHAPTER: NON-MUSLIM SUBJECTS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE (AHL AL-DHIMMA)
o11.1 A formal agreement of protection is made with citizens who are:
(1) Jews;
(2) Christians;
(3) Zoroastrians;
(4) Samarians and Sabians, if their religions do not respectively contradict the fundamental bases of Judaism and Christianity;
(5) and those who adhere to the religion of Abraham or one of the other prophets (upon whom be blessings and peace).
o11.2 Such an agreement may not be effected with those who are idol worshippers, or those who do not have a Sacred Book or something that could have been a book.
(A: Something that could have been a Book refers to those like the Zoroastrians, who have remnants resembling an ancient Book. As for the psuedoscriptures of cults that have appeared since Islam (n: such as the Sikh, Baha’is, Mormons, Qadianis, etc.) they are neither are nor could be a Book since the Koran is the final revelation.)o11.3 Such an agreement is only valid when the subject peoples:
(a) follow the rules of Islam (o11.5) (A: those mentioned below (o11.5) and those involving public behavior and dress, though in acts of worship and their private lives, the subject communities have their own laws, judges, and courts, enforcing the rules of their own religion among themselves);
(b) and pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)
THE NON-MUSLIM POLL TAX
o11.4 The minimum non-Muslim poll tax is on dinar (n: 4.235 grams of gold) per person (A: per year) The maximum is whatever both sides agree upon.
It is collected with leniency and politeness, as are all debts, and it not levied on women, children, or the insane.o11.5 Such non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they:
(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness:
(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar)
(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu ‘alaykun”;
(4) must keep to the side of the street;
(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;
(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays;
(7) and are forbidden to build new churches
o11.6 They are forbidden to reside in the Hijaz, meaning the area and towns around Mecca, Medina, and Yamama, for more than three days (when the caliph allows them to enter there for something they need).
o11.7 A non-Muslim may not enter the Meccan Sacred Precinct (Haram) under any circumstances, or enter any other mosque without persmission (A: nor may Muslims enter churches without their permission).
o11.8 It is obligatory for the caliph to protect those of them who are in Muslim lands just as he would Muslims, and to seek the release of those captured.
o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated. (dis: o11.11) (A: though if only one of them disobeys, it concerns him alone).
o11.10 The agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
(1) commits adultery with a Muslim woman or marries her;
(2) conceals spies of hostile forces;
(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;
(4) kills a Muslim;
(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.
o11.11 When a subject’s agreement with the state has been violated, the caliph chooses between the four alternatives mentioned in connection with prisoners of war (o9.14).
PRISONERS OF WAR
o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests
(O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or a Muslim captive held by the enemy.
If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed , and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.
Back to the suicidal Christians.
He said: “We’re calling upon congregations to say by means of their actions, ‘We come from different traditions, hold different beliefs and engage in different rituals in our churches, mosques and synagogues, have different beliefs yet emphasize religious freedom and search for answers to life’s questions through our respective faiths.’”
He said the event would also help to counter the perception abroad that Americans are hostile to Islam.
“It will send a message that Americans respect Muslims and Islam, as they respect religious differences and freedom of religion in general,” he said.
Rev, Islam calls for the dominance of CHRISTIANS, and allows lying, rape, and slavery. Which is your favorite part? With or without your help Reverend, AMERICA WILL BREAK THE BACK of the Sharia movement!
Father Pat Earl of St. Peter Parish in Charlotte, North Carolina can be reached HERE.
I noticed that St. Peters is Charlotte’s oldest parish. Establish in 1851. Sad, just sad…
I left a message for Father Earl. I mentioned that Koran verse 9:29 calls for the domination of HIS people. That verse 5:51 tells Muslims not to befriend Jews and Christians. I also said that verse 33:50 informs us that Mohammad was a rapist, asking why would he even allow that book into his Church. If he calls me back I will let you know.
Leviticus 26:7-8
Lev. 26 is the promise of God to reward the Hebrew people for their obedience; one of those promises is that they will be victorious in battle against their adversaries (vs.7-8). This is not, as there is repeatedly in the crummy qur’an, and open-ended call to violence against non-believers.
In context, the Bible makes more sense, and the qur’an just gets more scary.
Please note that God only promises the victory.
He does not command them to fight, enslave, plunder, and kill, kill and kill.
Father Pat; I lifted this quote from the Christian Post: “Christians, Jews and Muslims to Share Pulpits”.
“Father Pat Earl, pastor of St. Peter Parish in Charlotte, North Carolina, told the Catholic News Service it was a “good thing for the church” to publicly recognize the existence of Islam.”
Is this true? Did they report you accurately? Are you going to take part? If so; why are you so interested in surrendering the sovereignty of Jesus in you life, and congregation, over to the dominance of islam. You must realize that this kind of act is seen by the ummah as allah paving the way for conquering the Christian Crusader Infidel. Your web page header reads: “…and upon this rock I will build my church…” islam has nothing to do with this rock. Wake up man – this action is most disgraceful.
I don’t think it’s a good thing for the church.
It’s actually an abomination to allow Muslims at the Christian pulpit.
Muslims do not worship God.
that’s right! allowing these un-Godly people to speak from a church pulpit just defiles the Church, our Lord & Savior!!
It is truly disgraceful that any Christian or Jewish leader should yield anything to islam. Even the briefest look at muslim history and current events must signal at least a second thought. How can these people ever be taken seriously again if they make this kind of mistake on top of all the others.
Quote:
“It will send a message that Americans respect Muslims and Islam, as they respect religious differences and freedom of religion in general,” he said.
end.
Not true.
The message it will send is that Islam is ascendant, that the Trinity will no longer be Christian doctrine, and that Muslims and their scriptures are equally sacred with those of Christianity.
That is the message it will send.
If you’re so tolerant, why don’t you have Pagans and Wiccans preach in your church?
At least they have no agenda to destroy you and your faith.
Remember what happened to Arron’s sons
Yes indeed I do. And that’s a very apt illustration from Numbers.
Interfaith with Islam:
Christian: Islam is a great religion.
Muslim: Islam is a great religion.
End of interfaith dialogue.
No more to say.
excellent synopsis!
One problem is that the first mistake people make is calling islam a “religion” — it is NOT –and I will no longer capitalize the spelling. It is a repressive, totalitarian political ideology with a very small
“religious” component. The books of islam (the koran, hadith, and surah) spend more than 60% of their space describing the treatment of infidels (and it isn’t pretty!)
The second major problem is the islam is definitely NOT the “religion of peace” — anyone studying its tenets eventually becomes aware that the sections of their books written later in time “abrogate” (or replace) the sections written earlier, no matter in what order they are printed. So the parts where Mohammed talks about peace and friendship are abrogated by the sections where he calls for conversion, submission, or death of infidels.
The last problem with islam is that it has been waging jihad against other ideologies for over 1300 years. It has changed from a war of swords and bombs (except in Israel and Africa, where the terrorists openly bomb “infidels”) into a “stealth jihad” which has taken the form of infiltration, and attempts to force the adoption of sharia law. Sharia law is the vile underpinning of islam, which condones so-called “honor killings” and fosters other undemocratic practices such as censorship, elimination of women’s and children’s rights, civil rights and human rights — which we in the West have spent millennia working to establish.
“The books of islam (the koran, hadith, and surah) spend more than 60% of their space describing the treatment of infidels (and it isn’t pretty!)”
Which make me wonder how can they read the qur’an in a church and miss this. You can’t read far without finding things that cause you to question just what is going on here. Sleeping during the sermon must start in the pulpit.
Here is a discusting piece of tripe, all except the last two sentences that is.
Chesapeake Bishop E.W. Jackson, one of several candidates seeking the GOP nomination along with Allen, criticized the church’s decision.
“While we have a biblical mandate to love them as human beings, no pastor or Christian should cooperate or assist Muslims in their worship practices,” he said.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/virginia/2011/06/allen-sticks-church-allows-muslims-pray#ixzz1OCBnF6US
Way to go Bishop Jackson
Quote:
“While we have a biblical mandate to love them as human beings, no pastor or Christian should cooperate or assist Muslims in their worship practices,” he said.
end.
You love them best as human beings when you point out their errancy and refuse to take part in it.
The Muslim state, Muslim domination, would be the submission to errancy.
No Christian should ever accept that.
For the Skeptic, Neo-Pagan, Buddhist, Hindu or Jain, Muslim domination means death.
For all the indigenous peoples in the Americas who practice their first religions?
I don’t think Islam will accept them. Muslims have brutalized unceasingly the indigenes of Greenland.
This is insanity. Islam breeds sociopaths. Islam is a death cult.
We need to stand strong together against islam and thank God Chris for what you do and expose. All the the time is takes to do what you do. I am so glad that you are taking up this fight.
I could go on and on about this but, I know it would only fall on deaf ear. So I’ll make it short and sweet these pastor who are allowing muslims into their churches are complete MORONS and against G-d word. G-d does not like a mixture.
And Father Earl is a Jesuit…Ignatius of Loyola is spinning in his grave.
Just a cursory look at history would tell these Kumbaya Christians something…the extermination of the Jews of Khaybar and Quraish tribes, massacres in Constantinople, Cordoba, Malta, Lepanto, Famagusta, the Armenians, the Coptic Christians…the placement of mosques on the sites of destroyed churches, constant threats to destroy Israel…the list is endless.
We might have had the excuse of ignorance before 9/11/01, but most thinking people started to do some research on 9/12/01.
Father Earl’s job is to “preach the Gospel to all nations”, not to respect a false gospel that promotes oppression, hate, and death.
You are right, that is about the time I myself started to wake up. However; the only date we have to excuse our ignorance over is found in the 7th century AD. After that we can only blame ourselves and our education system for not keeping up with the need. I remember first becoming aware of this in the 70’s through a magazine article that called islam militant. I just went “hum” and moved on with my life. Shame is what I get. NO MORE – How about you Father Earl? How long in your shame?
Everything has been said!
What has light to do with darkness?
The cult of Islam is from the pit of hell!
In the 90`s I listened to a prophecy teacher who said this would happen in the `Last Days`that all faiths would worship together and it was hard to believe back then!
Almighty God will hate this deception that the church has fallen into!
Would mooselimbs allow christian or jewish priests speak at their “services”? I kind of think that’ll never happen considering the hate they spew about any infidel even to this day.
I wonder what Father Pat and Rev. Gaddy have to say about this — islam denies Our Sovereign Lord, so I think this makes clear what will happen to those who open the Pulpit and The House of God to islam.
2 Peter 2: 1-3
False Teachers and Their Destruction
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping
Excellent post!!! For those who believe that we are in the ‘last days,’ events like these take on an eerie resemblance to the above verses. Muslims are making numerous and even bolder claims daily in divers parts of the world.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/muslim-group-offends-some-christians-jes
” … Islamic doctrine holds that the 7th century Arabian Mohammed was the last in a long line of prophets of Islam stretching back to Adam, and including Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, John the Baptist – and Jesus. (The “Got Questions?” ad in Sydney also describes Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed as “prophets of Islam”. … ”
The only character out of all those mentioned above that remained in the darkness of paganism was the founder of Islam himself; the demon inspired Muhammad!!! Only Muhammad, out of all the above, worshipped a pagan deity for their entire lifetime; and some never worshipped a pagan deity.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-video-buy-automatic-weapons-start-shooting/story?id=13704264
” … He urges Muslims to pursue attacks with whatever is available. “Let’s take America as an example. America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for? …”
This is a more recent tirade from one of Islam’s finest, which shows just how friendly the real “Islam” wants to be. Statements like the aboive must just thrill the souls of the clergy in question. Kefa was correct after all!!!
Kudos to desertscout and Dan.
You’re both razor sharp in your understanding and expression.
which mosques in this insanity will be inviting a pastor to read from the new testament in the mosque,
crickets chirping…….
Mohammed was quoted as saying to his child-wife Aisha,I believe I am demon possessed.
It takes one to know one
Quote by Mohammed ‘I am demon possessed’. On this occasion I agree with Mohammed.
Could we get a citation or reference on that statement, please? Would come in very handy… satanic verses, perhaps?
Overall, this whole thing is surreal… churches holding to a form of godliness but denying its power, groveling and pandering, hoping to appease the bully and appeal to the good nature of something that has no good nature. “…recognize the existance of islam…” indeed. I am aware of no church that denies the existance of islam.
Father Pat Earl,…told the Catholic News Service it was a “good thing for the church” to publicly recognize the existence of Islam.
Father Pat; Are you going to recognize these things about the muslim world in the local mosque, church, synagogue, or any place at all?
Pakistan: Muslim landowners used tractors to plough over a Christian cemetery in order to seize the land illegally. A young Christian mother was raped by six men. “In both cases, police covered up for the culprits.”
Iraq: A Christian youth was kidnapped and decapitated: his family could not pay the €70,000 ransom demanded by his abductors. “The murder was meant to intimidate Christians so that in the future they will more readily pay ransom demands.”
Egypt: Christian girls continue to be abducted and forced into conversion or concubinage (which amount to the same thing) and “kept as virtual slaves.”
None of this is surprising listening to popular Muslim preacher Abu Ishaq al-Huwaini:
If only we can conduct a jihadist invasion at least once a year or if possible twice or three times, then many people on earth would become Muslims. And if anyone prevents our dawa or stands in our way, then we must kill them or take as hostage and confiscate their wealth, women and children. Such battles will fill the pockets of the Mujahid who can return home with 3 or 4 slaves, 3 or 4 women and 3 or 4 children. This can be a profitable business if you multiply each head by 300 or 400 dirham. This can be like financial shelter whereby a jihadist, in time of financial need, can always sell one of these heads (meaning slavery)
http://www.meforum.org/2920/raped-and-ransacked-in-the-muslim-world
This also sent as e-mail to the “contact us” at St Peter Parish