As the regular non-Muslims who post here know, Muslims continually visit this site in an attempt to whitewash Islam. One of their favorite lines is that Islam respects other religions. The Muslims who say this supply us with nothing more than their word, which means nothing. Because the Islamic scriptures show us just how much Islam respects other religions.
Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
If Islam respected other religions, the scriptures would not tell Muslims not to befriend Jews and Christians. To me the meaning of the verse is clear, but a further explanation of it is provided in the video below. Both in Arabic and English.
If we take a look at Koran verse 2:120, we see another warning for Muslims that is against Jews or Christians.
Koran verse 002.120
YUSUFALI: Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.
More on this verse is in the video below.
The Islamic “respect” of other religions, means that Muslims are to fight, extort, and dominate Jews and Christians.
Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
The harsh reality is that Islam disrespects other religions, and is the world’s greatest divider. Without it the world would have been a much better place.
Be fair. Christians are similar.
I was born to a family whereby the Females were all Saami Schamman. So, of course, I am Germanic/Norse Heathen. The ORIGIONAL Religion of North Europe.
My furture Father-in-law was full of “Oh, I am soooo open minded”….until we decided to marry. THEN you learn the lesson, about “how open minded I am”.
I see us (Germanic Heathens), and the christians of Europe (Plus English speaking world), as allied against the green pest.
But do NOT look at others without looking in your own mirror first.
Christians are not on a worldwide movement looking to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all, and I am not religious. Islam is the threat, and that is were the focus needs to be.
Neither are Muslims, so stop your lying Logun.
Or continue your lies. Whichever you feel most comfortable doing.
In the meantime, I’ll continue telling the truth about Islam and about you.
Duece YOUR truth about islam is never THE TRUTH about islam. I would think by now you would have learned most of the people who comment on this site have studied the unholy qur’an, hadith, and reliance of the Traveller enough that we are able to see thru your lies and attempts to gloss over the EVIL CULT of islam. Why not stop wasting your time and ours?
yea i read the old testament for shits and giggles too.
Shew, these religions are craaai
Either you backup your future comments with some proof or you are done here.
Koran verse 33:50 states Mohammad took sex slaves. That is the truth.
Really? Here are some examples.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/08/06/uk-muslims-sharia-will-be-implemented-by-any-means-necessary/
https://loganswarning.com/2011/07/12/illinois-muslim-leader-calls-for-sharia-to-the-chants-of-allah-akbar-video/
https://loganswarning.com/2010/12/15/germany-applies-anti-nazi-laws-on-two-non-violent-pro-sharia-islamic-groups/
Unlike you I can back up my comments with proof. Don’t think the readers cannot see this.
@Furor Teutonicus:
You win the “useful idiot” of the week award for that idiocy.
This is not a Christian website.
Maybe others understand your comment better than I do, but it seems to me that you are at least trying to link the behavior of one man with “the Christians of Europe…and the English speaking world.” – Or maybe even Christ and all Christians. Your comment seems to be incomplete and leaves a lot of room for questions.
I perceive that you are bitter about an objection to your marriage, it would appear that the only thing you are accomplishing is to fog up your own mirror. You might try to patch up your differences as best you can with your father in law, collect your thoughts, and then engage us again on your observations. People on this site are willing to engage in reasonable discourse, but as you can observe, we are focused on a matter of encroaching trouble. This trouble will be large enough in your future that all problems with your in-laws or backround beliefs will be miniscule.
Islam has no tolerance for you or your father in law. In the system of islam, both or you are infidels and worthy only of conversion or death. I mean no offence to you when I say this, but Norway does not need another Quisling. Islam is just as fascist as Nazi Germany was and could not care less about any ones feelings. It is becoming more apparent that all our efforts are going to be needed to fend of this insidious attack. Good luck to you, and your family.
get real. is-slime/islam is the only “religion” that believs a mass murdering serial rapist pedophile torturer psychotic psychopath warlord assassin etc. was the worlds only perfect man, and his/it’s example should be followed by all.
No, They are not similar as others
have mentioned. islam is a political
ideology and NOT a religion. It is
out to do one thing, establish a
global islamic caliphate through
violence, stealth jihad, taqiyya,
and what ever other means islam must
use to achieve this goal.
Compare 1500 years of islamic history
to that of the Jews or Christians.
islam is still killing, raping and
enslaving people everywhere it spwans.
It is a cancer that must be stopped.
There is no peace within islam and
with islam there will NEVER be peace.
Dud, I have no involvement with any parlor tricks (politics), but I am deeply involved in the practice of Islam. Politics and religion: completely separate. Politicians can use religion for or against people, but the 2 aren’t intertwined.
Please leave the Islamic comments to those who know vs. those who speculate….which describes most of the non-Muslims commenting against Islam here!
You cannot even defend Islam other than calling some an “Islamophobe”, or a liar.
Under Islam they are combined. That is what Sharia Law is.
Nope, no parlor tricks. Just straight forward lying. You refuse to debate with anything besides name calling because you do know what the koran says which makes it impossible to show any kind of proof to support your comments.
oh really? u americans love to talk about ur feelings dont u? this is all Islamophobia every1 knows ur dirty ways of putting the blame on Muslims to make urselves look nice but come on enuff with the hypocrisy we all know americans r the main cause of the war hw many innocent Iraqis have u killed hw many innocent Palestinians have u killed? or those r not people? u have killed a lot of innocent Muslims but we r comin n if our message cud reach u by words we wudnt come with grenades cuz if people insult our religion or kill our Muslim brothers and sister we will shed their blood!!
Using your so called logic, those who opposed Nazism suffered from “Naziophobia”.
Islam has been a threat to non-Muslims long before America existed. So you are going to have to come up with a new talking point.
Are you actually threatening us for “insulting” Islam?
No Christian court exists as a counterpart to Sharia.
Even the Roman Curia STAYED IN ROME and did not overwhelm the authority of secular rulers.
Your argument is invalid.
The crimes of Christians do not excuse the crimes and aspirations of Muslims.
how are they similar? please be specific or grow a brain.
Oh here we go, whenever or wherever someone offers some facts about a worldwide enemy of Liberty there is always someone that knows a bad Christian, you cannot make a comparison between Christians and Muslims, Christians are Not hell-bent on taking over the world, especially by the sword if necessary, as good Muslims must do, either by peaceful Jihad or violent Jihad; peaceful Jihadists are the so-called “Moderate Muslims” who must support the violent Jihadis in whatever their needs may be, such as money, food, shelter Etc. Etc.
TEACHER KILLED BY MUSLIM STUDENTS
Compass Direct News/VOM Sources
On March 21, 2007, Christianah Oluwasesin, a teacher at a secondary school in Northern Nigeria was beaten, stoned and burned by Muslim students over claims she desecrated the Quran. According to a Compass Direct News report, Oluwasesin was supervising a final examination on Islamic religious knowledge when she collected papers, books and bags from the all-girls class and in accordance with school procedure and dropped them in front of the class to prevent cheating. According to another teacher, soon after Oluwasesin dropped the bags in front of the class, one of the girls began to cry. She told her classmates she had a copy of the Quran in her bag, that Oluwasesin touched the bag and by doing so had desecrated the Quran, since she was a Christian. This led to a riot which was joined by Muslim extremists, resulting in Oluwasesin being beaten to death. They brought old mats to where her body was, placed dirt on her corpse and then burned it. The Voice of the Martyrs has met with her husband and is supporting her family. Pray God will comfort Oluwasesin’s family and for her testimony to those that killed her, that it will bring them into the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:5
http://www.aggressivechristianity.net/articles/articles.htm
So much for pislamic tolerance.
I’ve got news for ya, “brain-child”:
That’s NOT Islam!!
Under Islam a person can be killed for “spreading mischief” in the land. Verse 5:32. “Mischief” can be just about anything.
I think that’s called idolatry.
God commands that you are not to worship a book!
And Muslims claim to be monotheists!
Don’t forget that black rock they bow to 5 times a day, 365 days a year, and then also make a hajj to and prance around that and do some other rituals. Yes, islam does have idols and it isn’t only the koran and black rock (that moslems will deny with their dying breath), but islam is also mohammed worship. They kill over cartoons, and drawings of him.
islam teaches hypocrasy. But their definition of hypocrasy is a bad moslem (apostate) so they hold others to a standard that they cannot even meet. And they will kill over that.
That’s nothing. Look at what a sickular senseless coward news-channel has to offer on the arm-chopping of a Christian professor in South West of India,
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/massive-support-for-kerala-lecturer-whose-hands-were-chopped-off-66791
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Why this is ‘worse’? Because, “INDIA” is supposedly a *DEVELOPING* country – look at the development. And *KERALA* (like Egypt), is where Islam (like Christianity) had profound support of the ruling *HINDU* kings for decades (before Tipu Sultan brought the *REAL* Islam to Malabar coast).
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Hindus & INDIANs are COWARDS – they’ll be terminated from this planet – though, it’s a long running process – it will happen one day.
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Sad smileys – a Hindu & an Indian.
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MN
I remember this case.
may the teacher rest in peace. by my accounts, treating a book to a point like a dog (what I mean is getting very enraged when someone kills the dog)than I call it idolatry. Besides that, Islam is a pagan religion, look at the history of muhammeds tribe, and its rituals compared to islam, they look the same, also the kaaba is false since the old testament didn’t talk about it.
“The Reliance of the Traveller” is the Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law (Sharia). It was written in 14th Century, and remains in force today. It is approved by the authorative Al-Azhar University. Here is what R of T says about tolerance: “Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras, . . . but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam. . . [I]t is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as ‘Christianity’ or ‘Judaism,’ are acceptable to Allah.” (w4.0)
” … abrogated … ”
Islam’s infamous policy to justify the changing of prior practices in Islam as well as any other religion in order to justify any aberrant practice or stories that Muhammad (or any Muslim since) could make up. I suppose that the pagan, imp demon, allah didn’t like some of the religious practices and doctrines in other religions (especially Judaism and Xtianity) so Muhammad liked to claim that either allah or the ‘Islamic Gabriel’ had to bring another message not previously revealed (or abrogate any prior message or claim).
A classic case in the Qur’an from early in the ‘ministry’ of old Mo was found in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22. It is explained that old Mo ” … went through a time of weakness and compromised with the Meccan pagans by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.” (the very subject of Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses”)
However later ” … In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, (the Qur’an was not ‘compiled in chronological order but by the longest Surahs first on down to the shortest Surahs … go figure) Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts.”
Obviously according to the above apologetic, Mo must have been the foremost of the “weak believers. Wow; one sees that word abrogated again even to correct the errors of Muhammad. How could anything like this happen??? Well Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53 explains all to the inquiring mind:
“Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf ‘Ali’s translation”
This is the clearest evidence that Muhammad in fact recited verses given to him by Satan and presented them to the believers as coming from his ‘god’ given by an ‘angel.’ One would also have to wonder what Mo’s ” … desire … ” actually was that Satan would throw ” … some (vanity) … ” into Mo’s desire (kinky sounding, at least). It is credulous indeed to believe and claim, as Muslims do regularly, that Satan only influenced Muhammad on this one occasion. What was Mo’s defense about these events??? All prophets did it (it’s W’s fault); sound familiar???
In conclusion, verses given long before the Qur’an was compiled were conveniently ‘abrogated.’ I guess that was fortuitous, because it would have definitely would have saved on printing costs five to six decades after Mo’s demise (Mo’s is an interesting story in itself). Muhammad was definitely a wanker breath influenced by strong demonic power; and a swines wanker breath at that!!! The lesson for the day is “allah abrogates!!!”
Many of Islam’s tenets and teachings are based upon the fraudulent rewriting of events previously revealed in the writings of preexisting religions. If a Muslim is trying to expound on some passages or statements in the pages of another religions writings, then their arguments are usually based on half truths or outright lies. This is a common theme in Islam. What a religion!!!
These f*ckers should not be allowed to reproduce.
ikr
Forgive me for the ‘cut and paste’ here, but I found an excellent post on another form by one albionuk. Thanx to albionuk for clarification on the inerrancy of the Qur’an. The following is from albionuk’s post:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3809149/1/
” … Muslims believe that the hadith Bukhari (6:61:510) and ( 6:60:201) are true. In those hadith the following is stated:
(6:61:510) Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur’an. . . i.e. there was already different versions of the Qur’an because different people spoke different dialects and things didn’t always get the correct translation or memorised versions erred and the errors were copied.
(6:61:510) So Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, “Send us the manuscripts of the Qur’an so that we may compile the Qur’anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you
AND
(Bukhari 6:60:201) Zaid ibn Thabit, said . . . By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Quran… So I started locating the Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leafstalks of date palms and from the memories of men. . . . . . . i.e the original Qur’an was on scraps of material retained by various scribes and Muslims believe that Thabit was able to collect together ALL the scraps!!
THEN
(6:61:510) ‘Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, ‘Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and ‘AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. ‘Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, “In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur’an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur’an was revealed in their tongue.. . . . . . i.e. clearly it states that the Quraish had their own dialect – it logically follws that the original would have been written in their dialect (Muhammed being Quraish) not Arabic.
Fact:
Muslims agree that Uthman re-wrote the Qur’an.
Muslims agree that Uthman destroyed the originals.
Muslims agree that there is not only no originals there is also no agreed original copy available of the Qur’an produced by Uthman.
Muslims say that all that doesn’t matter because the original was memorised and has been flawlessly verbally passed down for the past 1400 years.
My research revealed that the earliest written copy of the Qur’an is written in Kufic script. I took some examples of Kufic script to Egypt and asked some Arabs if they could read it. They recognised it as something to do with verses of the Qu’ran but they couldn’t read it.
The oldest copy of the Qur’an (dated at between 710 and 715 AD) is the copy found in mosque in Yemen but that is written in the Hizazi script i.e. it is not an original Uthman which was written in Kufic script. …”
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I guess one could say that all of the earliest versions of the compilation of the Qur’an were “abrogated” by Uthman!!! So much for the argument for a logical exegesis of the Qur’an. Reread above the following from the hadith Bukhari 6:60:201:
” … So I started locating the Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leafstalks of date palms and from the memories of men” . . . . . . . i.e the original Qur’an was on scraps of material retained by various scribes and Muslims believe that Thabit was able to collect together ALL the scraps!!”
Plus the earliest extant copies of the Qur’an are not translated in Arabic, but in Kufic and Hizazi scripts. So much for Islamic claims of the Qur’an being ‘immutable’ and only understood properly in the ‘original’ Arabic language. This is a big nail in the coffin of that feeble argument!!!
Islam is a fcuking religion literally. Can’t take seriously what the fcuking iman preaches.
To the Muslims, it’s ok to fcuk children like what that fcuktard Mohammad did 1,400 years ago!
Now Muslims are penchant in child fcuking ala that fcuktard Mohammad fcuking children 1,400 years ago!.
Muslim Child Brides in a Choir Marry Much Older Uncles Very Very Funny!! (Mirror)
You don’t have anything of intelligence to state, based on your lack of facts and, apparent, inability to not suggest cursing.
Mohammad had sex with a 9 year old.
https://loganswarning.com/2010/08/24/questions-for-the-muslims-who-read-this-site/
Kim Bruce’s excellent article should be on leaflets dropped from a plane. My bet is also on Y’shuah over Mohammed in any contest.
why does the koran mention Christians when the term christian wasn’t spoken until 59 to 62 AD?
Islam was started hundreds of years later. Mohammad died in 632.
You know, I’ve been thinking…can’t you smell the rubber burning?
…Y’shuah preached and taught his disciples for only three years before he was executed. Yet Y’shuah’s teachings have gone around the world many times over.
In other words Y’shuah only had 3 years to get YHVH’s message out to as many people as possible.
At the age of 40 Muhammad was in Mecca preaching his cult ideology for ten years to the Qurayshes and the Jews but nobody was buying his stories. So he was driven out of Mecca, on rumors of his assassination, and made his Hegira north to Medina with only a handful of followers. While on his flight to Medina, Muhammad had time to reflect on the mistakes he had made and vowed to change his methods of conversion. This time he would, by combining his religious leadership with political power, enforce his ideology, and if anyone disagreed with him he separated their heads from their torsos.
I would say the power, grace and wisdom of Y’shuah’s teaching vastly outweighs Muhammad’s simply because it only took Y’shuah 3 years to expand his teachings and gain a healthy following of believers. Whereas it took Muhammad 22 years to gain only a few followers using the sword, torture, murder, deceit, genocide, bribery, rape, incest, theft, debauchery, piracy, and all manners of evil to force people to convert to the tyranny of Islam.
My bet is on Y’shuah over Muhammad in any contest.
your barking is without any proof.
Dear Kim,
I remember a famous story of a Christian priest who had a Muslim friend. The two of them agreed that the Muslim friend would read the New Testament, and if he did not see the truth of Christ Jesus and convert, then the Christian priest would submit himself to the revelation of Mohammed.
The Muslim read the New Testament and decided that Jesus Christ had to be the Son of God.
In accord with his own conclusions, he converted to Christianity.
Muslims denigrate Christianity and dispossess, rape and kill Christians endlessly.
But the case of Christ, the Son of God, remains intact.
We must ask ourselves: how is it that Christian communities could survive in the midst of the Ummah for so many centuries, even beyond one millennia.
The only thing driving Christians out of Iraq is Muslim violence.
The only thing driving Christian Palestinians from their communities is Muslim violence and the Muslim willingness to defile Christian churches and holy sites.
Wherever Christians and Muslims have lived, where Muslims are civilized, they do indeed live in peace.
There is a mosque in Lebanon that has a beautiful Christmas Tree standing in front of it– proof positive that there are those in the Ummah who respect their Christian co-nationalists there.
But still, Christians will not sacrifice goats to Jesus Christ, they will never conquer territory and demand that only Christians rule it.
We know that there are Muslims in this world who would gladly do both!
The Nativity of Jesus Christ is one of the Joyful Mysteries of the Christian Church.
The Lord God ceased to demand vengeance, and taught us to desire mercy.
And to desire mercy is to be in a state of grace.