The massive division that Islam has brought to the UK, has come to America as well. This Sunday at 2pm we will once again see Muslims using our freedoms against us, to advance their agenda. To strengthen their position they will be using misinformation about Islam, to turn non-Muslims against non-Muslims.
“Today, I Am a Muslim Too” Rally
Times Square, New York
7th Avenue at 42nd Street
New York, NYIn response to the March 8th congressional hearings dubbed “The Radicalization of Muslim communities in America” led by Congressman Peter King (R-LI), members of diverse faith communities throughout New York City will join in unity and support of American Muslims.
Stand with us on March 6th to show Congress that we are all together, that we share friendship and trust and cannot be divided. Such hearings will send the wrong message, alienating American Muslims instead of partnering with them, and potentially put lives at risk by stirring up fear and hatred.
That is what their Facebook page states. But that is not the reality of what the Islamic scriptures state.
The scriptures clearly say that Muslims are not to befriend non-Muslims.
Koran Verse 003.028
YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
Islam also clearly divides the world into Muslims and non-Muslims.
Koran verse 008.055
YUSUFALI: For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.
This rally is nothing more than a tool for Imam Shamsi Ali, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and his wife Daisy Khan to drum up non-Muslim support for their goal of building an imposing Islamic structure at Ground Zero.
In addition to Simmons and Rabbi Schneier, additional guests expected to appear include; Imam Shamsi Ali (Islamic Cultural Center), Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (Cordoba Initiative), Rev. Bob Chase (Intersections), Rabbi Peter J. Rubinstein (Central Synagogue), Katherine Henderson (Auburn Theological Seminary), Rev. Chloe Breyer (Interfaith Center of New York), Rev. Amandus J. Derr (St. Peter’s Church), and many other religious, community, and political leaders.There will also be a performance by UN Goodwill Ambassador Salman Ahmad of Junoon Band.
Imam Shamsi is the the latest face of Islamic deception for this project. In the video below he says that Muslims are NOT obliged to spread Sharia.
The Imam tried to spin it that the following verse is out of context.
Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
(For those new to the subject, jizya is part of Shariah Law.)
The only problem is that the Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times.
Koran Verse 033.021
YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
Did the Imam skip school on the day of this hadith class?
Bukhari Hadith Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.”
Sorry Imam. You fail!
Unfortunately the rally is supported numerous non-Muslims organizations.
Thanks to all who are supporting the event, the list is below:
1. Foundation for Ethnic Understanding
2. Interfaith Center of New York
3. Auburn Seminary
4. Central Synagogue
5. Greater New York Labor-Religion Coalition
6. Queens Federation of Churches
7. Federation for Middle East Peace
8. Park Avenue Synagogue
9. Partnership of Faith
10. Long Island Interfaith Alliance
11. Fellowship of Reconciliation
12. Action International Center
13. Long Island Catholic Diocese
14. Episcopal Diocese of New York
15. Shalom Center
16. St. Bartholomew’s Church
17. The Tanenbaum Center
18. Jewish Theological Seminary
19. Interreligious Federation of Queens
20. Midtown Churches
21. World Council of Religious Leaders/Jainism Community
22. Martin Luther Center for Non Violence
23. Buddhist Council of New York
24. Egyptian-American Associations
25. Union Theological Seminary
26. NYC to Stop Islamophobia
27. St. Peter’s Churches
28. Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church
29. Alliance of Civilizations
30. Sikh community, Flushing Queens
31. Clergy Living Wage in NYC
32. Freedom of Religion USA
33. EmblemHealth
34. The Convergence Project
35. Intersections
36. Interfaith New York disaster services
37. Fiscal Policy Institute
38. New York Neighbors Coalition
39. Clergy beyond borders Conference
40. The Shalom Center
41. Same Difference
42. St Paul and St Andrews Church
44. Congregation Beit Simchat Torah
45. Marble Collegiate Church
46. Multi-faith Voices for Peace & Justice
48. Pax Christi Metro New York
50. Interfaith Arts
51. The Sikh Coalition, USA
52. The Sikh Community, Queens – Flushing
53. Saint John the Divine
54. Saint Peter’s Church
55. International Federation of Rabbis
56. Chautauqua Institution
57. National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
58. Interreligious Federation USA
59. Faith House Manhattan
60. East West Association of Sikh Women for World Peace
61. Clergy for Living Wage (Rev. Peter Hetzel)
62. Cathedral of St. John the Divine
63. Mennonite Central Committee UN Office
64. Shomer Shalom Network for Jewish Nonviolence
65. Catholic Scholars for Worker Justice
66. International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network
67. New York City Labor Against the War
68. The Dialogue Project
69. Local Faith Communities
70. Riverside Drive Church
71. Kolot Chayeinu / Voices of Our Lives
72. Chhaya CDC (Seema Agnan)
73. Judson Memorial Church
74. New Sanctuary Movement NYC
75. Interfaith Assembly on Homelessness and Housing
76. Citizen Action of New York
77. Congregation at Ansche Chesed
78. Kolot Chayeinu-Voices of Our Lives
79. September 11th Families for Peaceful TomorrowsContacts:
Imam Shamsi Ali: [email protected]
Alexandra Ben Othman: [email protected]
Sadick Abubakr: [email protected]Media: Leyla Turkkan: [email protected]
Para español: Katherine Vizcaino: [email protected]
Besides that list the following celebrities are backing the event as well.
I wonder if more black people would speak out against Islam, if they knew it allows slavery and that Mohammad was a black slave owner?
Muslim Hadith Book 010, Number 3901:
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
According to the Facebook page, so far 937 people are attending. With another 14,617 awaiting reply. The non-Muslims who are supporting this rally need to take a look at a picture of their children and grandchildren, and ask themselves if they want them to be forced to live under Islamic rule. Because that is what is going to happen, if Islam is not stopped. The choice is yours.
Well written, Christopher! I understand that a counter demonstration is being organized.
Lets hope to God people start to wake the hell up. At this rate their caliphate will be easy to achieve. What will the left say when they start murdering people?
Nothing. They’ll be the first to the chopping block. “But, but we are you’re friends! We help…” *chop-chop* They will be clueless until the end.
This country is in for a bloodbath the likes of which the world has never seen.
Those mega-mosques in Tennessee around which they are planning to build huge islamic communities chose that site for a reason: they are going to slaughter the Christians there, because as one woman I heard in one of the videos about it said “They chose Tennessee because THIS is where the Gospel message goes out – there are Christian publishers and studios and this is the buckle of the Bible belt. They are here for some larger purpose”.
Yep.
I truly believe that larger purpose is going to be to slaughter those people to ‘cut the head off’ the gospel, so to speak.
I’m telling you, we better be diligent at all times, handing out flyers and talking to people and organising events… If we do not take radical action of some kind we are effing DOOMED.
Chris, when I saw the length of the list of supporters I nearly fell out of my chair.
God help us.
Luckily contrary to use you have liberal gun laws. So stock up with handguns, shotguns, machineguns, sniper rifles and hand grenades if that ispossible and of course plenty of ammo! So that you get ready for the coming shitstorm. Becaus that moske is also a military central and they probably have a bunker in the basement with plenty of weaponry and dynamite. Keep your eyes ever vigilant to what they do. As soon as you see signs that they soon will strike, then hit them first and hit them hard. With a little luck and help from God you might even set off an explosion inside the moske before they can use it against you. And if that moske blows it also means that the worst lot of them will be among the casualties. But you better run for the hills after that because Odumbo won’t sit around twiddling his thumbs after so many of his brothers has been sent to the pie in the sky.
there won’t be any bloodshed unless we start the bloodshed. stop your idiotic fearmongering. don’t forget the following facts:
1. we are the majority.
2. we have a constitution.
you should be focusing on how the conservative elements over the last 30 years have destroyed the middle class and sold out the country to the banksters.
now that’s worth fighting for. re- focus people.
Precisely. .as soon as they have exhausted their usefulness to the Ummah they will be relieved of all their worldly trinkets and methodically disposed of. Grim fact, predictable as the fate of a leaping lemming.
You are right on as usual. Just two letters to change: “…allowed slavery” to “allows.” Or what should we call being not being allowed out and on the few occasions you are, you have to be wrapped in a black bin-liner and accompanied by handlers? And that’s only the wives.
Fixed, and thanks!
So sad that synagouges support this rally while the protesters in the Middle East clearly hate Jews and Christians. America needs to wake up and see Islam for what it is…evil.
This list just shows how ignorant and naive so many Christians, Jews, and liberals are. Leaders of churches and synagogues that take this position of appeasement and defense of Islam are not Christians. They are ignorant or evil.
If Islam is so worthy of respect, then why do we need demonstrations to assert its respectability?
So true eib!
I think these demonstrations are just an opportunity for Islam to see who they will not attack, who they can ingratiate farther.
To say “I am a Muslim too” is to submit.
I wonder if these people are willing to disown their heritage entirely.
Quote:
In the video below he says that Muslims are NOT obliged to spread Sharia.
end quote.
So Imam Shamis says this.
Islam has no hierarchy of authority, and even though he might say it, that doesn’t mean that the faculty at AlAzhar says it, that doesn’t mean that the Saudi authorities say it.
The issue of authority in Islam has never been resolved.
And because it hasn’t, we can see good-will, but we cannot count on it.
Pardon the error, it’s Shamsi.
The dicates of one Imam do not amount to Islam itself.
The content of the scriptures is clear.
Conquer now.
Kill now.
Demand submission.
Where there is no submission, kill again.
Muslims cannot negate what is theirs. Why do they not have the courage to claim the truth?
It’s disheartening at best, and nauseating at worst to read through that list of pseudo-Christians and Jews. I noticed, in particular, Pax Christi, which has long been almost an arm of the liberation theology/Communist crowd.
And St. Peter’s Church…would that perchance be where the body of Father Mychal Judge was brought, respectfully and sorrowfully, after he was killed giving someone the Last Rites on 9/11?
The Hollywood morons wouldn’t be caught dead with signs proclaiming “Today I am a Christian too” and demanding that St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, another casualty of 9/11, be rebuilt.
What a terrible idea! These interfaith people are deluded. Thankfully, such a demonstration has not yet occurred here in the UK, but being aware of the propensity of many of my compatriots to ape anything that takes place on the ‘other side of the pond’, I can well imagine that such an event is not far over the horizon.
On a more positive note, the EDL turned up in Rochdale today for their latest protest, and their supporters clearly outnumbered their opponents by some distance. This time, it focused upon the issue of Muslim paedophile grooming which has bedevilled this town. Some decent pictures and an overview of the demo can be found here: http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/03/initial-reports-from-rochdale-edl-demo_05.html
A short promotional video outlining the cases that led to the demonstration can be viewed here: http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/03/edl-rochdale-demo-promo-video.html
Wow you people are nuts. Where do you find all of the tin-foil for your hats?
Your childish insult shows just how little you know about Islam.
If you write this, then you are defending Islam, not the right of free speech.
If anything, you are more for Islam than for the 1st Amendment.
You have submitted.
You do not stand for anything.
By the way, thanks for promoting this event. I hadn’t heard of it until I wandered onto your wingnut website, but now I will be sure to go and support moderate Islam and increase the dialog between those of different faiths. You guys can stay in your caves.
Centuries of interfaith dialogue has added up to nothing. Islam continues to advance. Maybe one day you will figure that out.
Why don’t you come back and debate on this “moderate” Islam?
Explain how Sharia is “moderate” Islam.
Muslim interfaith is this:
MUSLIM: Islam is a great religion.
NON-MUSLIM: Islam is a great religion.
End.
This demonstration is designed to uphold the dignity of Islam.
It is not designed to uphold the dignity of all faiths.
There is nothing of INTERFAITH about it.
Tom is like all other Pro-Islam leftists. He will lob mortars over the wall and duck for cover instead of stepping up.
Please note that this INTERFAITH gathering is designed to show the validity and respectability of ISLAM.
There is no room for the respectability of any other faith in this interfaith demo.
Why?
Because in Islam, there is no tolerance.
Period.
Boy, human ignorance seems to know no bounds…especially when they are all a bunch of Tom H’s.
Sorry, but I cannot be a Muslim for the reasons mentioned below:
I don’t believe in stoning women to death; don’t believe in having several wives; don’t believe in Honor Killing; don’t believe in hanging homosexuals and/or lesbians until dead; don’t believe in lashing anyone until blood runs down their backs; don’t believe in legally raping underage little girls after a forced “marriage;” don’t believe in amputating hands, feet, and gouging out eyes of petty thieves; don’t believe in murdering apostates who no longer wish to participate in Criminal Activity of Islam like that mentioned above.
Sorry, Muslims, but I can’t be one of you. Why don’t you Muslims convert and embrace the Ten Commadments? Why don’t you tell us what you have against the Ten Commandments?
WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM BEFORE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAM DESTROYS US.
I agree with you 100%…
I feel like the majority of you!! If you are a Christian and you study your bible; God gives WISDOM to fight the devil….He gives us WISDOM to know how to spot the enemy…He gives WISDOM about how Satan in the last days will “pull the wool over your eyes”…His WISDOM will show you the devil as a “sheep in wolves clothing”…These muslims are worshiping “satan”…evil,lying, hate,deceiving and boastful….like most of your posts I couldn’t believe the interfaith groups came to this so-called rally. That shows you how ignorant they are!!! People we have to put on the armour of God, The Father and the Holy Spirit, because we haven’t seen nothing yet. They are and have been for a long time imposing their religion on the people of the USA and other countrys as well!!!
Amen. So very very true. We need to wake up and stop being ignorant.
I cannot be a Muslim because I believe Islam is profane.
I believe Mohammed is a false prophet.
I believe that Allah is a demon.
And above all, I think that the heritage of the West needs more protection than Islam.
Quote:
In response to the March 8th congressional hearings dubbed “The Radicalization of Muslim communities in America” led by Congressman Peter King (R-LI), members of diverse faith communities throughout New York City will join in unity and support of American Muslims.
end quote.
This “response” is Jihad.
The organizers of this farce could better & more accurately name it: ”
I am stoopid too” or “I’m an apologist too” or “I’m completely uninformed too” ” or “i’m for sharia too” “I’m a seditionist too”.
You get my drift. Have fun with it.
“I’m completely uninformed too”
Lol!
Kim Kardashian is Armenian. I wonder what she knows about the Turkish slaughter of her predecessors?
And the thousands of teenage Armenian girls that were found CRUCIFIED along the roads by so called MODERATE islam!
Do you really think she cares?
All this lovey-dovey interfaith crap helps remind me why atheism is the only logical position
…..useful idiots all
…..give them the keys to your houses and your daughters while you are at it…..
appeasing liberal slimes….no guts at all.
I blame “Gentle Jesus Meek and Mild…….”
At least Christianity had balls during the Crusades.
I agree with you on the appeasement mind set and the interfaith garbage. If you want to be an atheist that’s also your business. But the whole “Gentle Jesus meek and Mild” thing, well there is a whole lot more to it than that. He often got into the faces of the hypocrites within the Pharisees and Saducees. He went into the temple and over turned the money tables because they were turning the temple into a den of robbers, he said I came not to bring peace but a sword(there’s a lot more context to that one, not meant in the way the muzzards bring the sword, but still far from meek and mild).And yes,they had balls during the Crusades, that is why there is such a huge movement to discredit everything about them. Believe me, there are many Christians, as I am sure there are many Jews, who are sickened by these appeasing brain dead cowards, are we the majority or are they, really don’t know, but many of us do exist and will not go quietly, that is a guarantee.
Reading through the list of Christian churches and Jewish organizations makes me sick. Guess we know who the first dhimmis in line will be. Does anybody, and that would include Tom H. actually ever read a quran, hadith, sira or any islamic history, they could not possibly and still support islam, unless they were of it.
I was so glad not to see my church on the list otherwise I would be looking for a new place to worship, this is why I now attend an independent non denominational bible church, notice how many Organization Churches were on this list.
Why do I keep thinking of the movie Mars Attacks and the line, “wait, come back, they want to be our friends”, just before the morons get obliterated.
I agree, I really didn’t realize that there are so many dhimmies out there. Blind, deaf and ignorant. Sometimes I wish I was in that category too, life would be so much easier. But, knowing what an evil cult islam is, obligates us to spread the word.
LOL! You might appreciate this song if you haven’t heard it already. 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGNvjAWaRhA
I thought it was more than just one short verse but nonetheless he might be true, that life is wonderful if you’re stupid, dumb and glad. It was the first time I saw the video. I’ve just heard it on radio before and hardly even knew what he looked like. LOL!
Unfortunately, many useful idiots are folled by these slogans of love and solidarity that these Muslims use…..Muslims Consider themselves at war with all non-Muslims, and their duty is to use all kind of deception to gain the battle, their prophet said war is deception.
The useful idiots non Muslims are never red the Islamic scriptures to know the truth, they act by good will and naivety and that will lead them to their self destruction and our destruction with them.
These banch of ignorant must be educated about Islam, and shown the hate that exist in this ideology, to know the abrogation theory in the Islamic theology, to know that some peaceful verses that Muslims usually use to deceive them are abrogated by other violent non tolerant verses. These verses are always kept hiding, and if someone dare to reveil them they accuse him to use them out of context. Our enemies now are 2 fronts, Muslims and useful idiot leftists.
Even a person who has done a cursory reading of Islamic scriptures along with a somewhat deeper reading of European history, particularly as it pertains to Islam, can understand the collision course these two cultures are on.
With all the terrible persecution of christians in so many countries,how can christians support these demon worshippers!
I pray every night for a list of countries where murders and shocking barbarity is perpetuated by these adherrents to this so-called religion of peace!
Iraq, Iran,Egypt, Indonesia are just a few where these terrible atrocities are happening! No-one cares, its never in the mainstream news! Browse OPEN DOORS website and Islam: The Religion of Peace. There are many more! Its unbelievable that these supporters are so ignorant of the facts!
I never knew how much Christians were persecuted in these countries until I discovered open doors and premiere radio.
Muslims would have you believe that they are the victims and unfortunately our secular media allows this false message to be portrayed.
When the persecuted church is mentioned to Muslims they will tell you its all propaganda to make Islam look bad.
It is disgusting that these synagogues are supporting this. And P. DOODY, what a shock. Like another commenter said: How stupid..Muslims are out to kill Jews first and enslave blacks and always have.
Kim Kardashian is brain dead. A bag over her head and body is what she’s asking for. She won’t be famous for being famous then, will she?
Glad I left New York.
Tom H.,
you clearly live in a cave, or you’d know about islam. by the way, buddy, ever study history? 1400 years of babaric murder. You’re the wingnut. Go learn something, little boy. Do you know that Sweden is almost all Islam now? That people are building fences around their houses to keep muslims out? that over 90% of rapes are by muslims? Or that England is fighting to keep England as England? Do you even know about beheadings, etc..? Go crawl back into your computer, little twit.
The computer in his mommie’s basement you mean? Think he needed a break first to go smoke a few joints and wait for mommy to bring him some munchies. TH, put down the joint, and go read some history and start slow with some of the koran. If you still don’t get it start learning how to bow.
I will never be an arselifter. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not ever.
There’s nothing Mahound couldn’t teach ya
‘Bout the lifting of the arse
Bruce himself was permanently pissed
Sheepshead Bay moske protest next weekend –
http://madaboutmahound.blogspot.com/2011/03/protest-sheepshead-bay-moske.html
Nice to see you, and thanks Gary!
Keep up the good work, Chris.
My stomach churns with a nauseating terrible fear at just the THOUGHT of these utterly murderous, barbaric, backwards, ferociously hateful monsters called Muslims taking over our beautiful, beloved country where we live with such freedom; a freedom that came at the expense of a very heavy loss of lives. How insulted our founders and war veterans would be if we allowed that to happen! It is SO VERY IMPORTANT that Americans learn the truth about Islam!! It’s the religion of the DEVIL!! All of these stupid celebrities and “peace & love” organizations that are obviously stuck with Woodstock mentalities and have no conception of the reality of what Islam is all about and what their intentions are, are simply blissfully ignorant of the fact that Muslims want them all dead or enslaved to them and their actions tomorrow in N.Y. give these Muslims great happiness and encouragement towards reaching their sick, twisted goal. This is not about “freedom of religion”, but rather, the fact that Islam is a political & cultural ideology and an extremely oppressive and ugly one at that. There is no freedom in Islam, other than small freedoms that are ONLY given to Muslim men!
There are no “moderate Muslims”, because if there were, after 9/11 and other major hideous mass murders of innocents, they would be vehementally speaking out against them!! They would be APPALLED at the carnage and injustice of so many lives cut short!! They would take out full page ads in newspapers, magazines, and on TV & radio, protest in the streets, and schedule speaking events to large groups!! But, no, these Muslims are silent and they are undeniably complicit by their silence. Quite the opposite happens in response to these Muslim-induced atrocities as I’m sure most of us remember. In many Muslim countries, they wildly celebrated the events of 9/11 and see bin Laden and the hijackers as their heroes!! Heroes for CHILDREN!! What kind of religion celebrates MASS MURDER AND SUFFERING??!!
Islam does. And they’d love to have many more “9/11’s” because they hate our culture and our freedom and they want to end all that. And the “Woodstock Mentalities” are helping them. For God’s sake, all of those people should be forced to watch a video of a “stoning” of a woman or the amputation of heads and hands. They bring shame and grave danger on the United States, and those misguided people need to see exactly why the Muslims must be stopped!
yes, Muslims must be stopped
I don’t see any lies from your research. You have my support logan!
The complete Islamization of America and the implementation of Sharia Law:
1. http://shariah4america.com/NewYork/International-Shari-ah-Court-of-Justice-New-York
2. http://shariah4america.com/NewYork/The-Islamic-Demolition-of-the-Statue-of-Liberty
3. http://shariah4america.com/Washington/The-Islamic-Punishment-for-Paedophiles
4. http://shariah4america.com/Washington/The-White-Masjid
5. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/The-Supremacy-of-the-Infrastructure-of-the-Islamic-State
6. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/Do-NOT-Obey-the-Law-of-the-Land
7. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/The-Islamic-State-24-Hours-after-Implementation
8. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/DEMONSTRATION-OUTSIDE-WHITE-HOUSE
9. http://shariah4america.com/Non-Muslims/Imagine
10. http://shariah4america.com/Non-Muslims/3rd-March-1924CE
11. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/Muslims-without-Shariah-are-like-Fish-out-of-Water
12. http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/Welfare-in-the-Islamic-State
Reading through these comments makes me sad at the level of ignorance prevalent in our society. It reminds me how other minorities in this country have been persecuted for their beliefs or culture. Whether it was native americans, the japanese during ww2, or the catholics during the mid 1900s, the pattern is all the same. The only brightness in this dark period is that this too will pass, as it has before. Peace and love to all, let the hatefull comments flow.
No one here is talking about interning Muslims or forcing them onto reservations.
No.
The pattern is not all the same.
None of these groups could, in their wildest dreams, have the history of intolerance that Islam can boast.
You haven’t read the Quran.
You haven’t studied the Battle of Tours.
You know nothing about slave-raiding on the Western French frontier.
You are blissfully ignorant of the kidnapping of Greek youths and girls for enslavement in the Ottoman Empire.
You waltz along not knowing anything about the trans-Saharan slave trade which operates to this day in Muslim hands.
You shrug off the persecution of non-Muslims worldwide by Muslims.
I accuse you of ignorance, but above all, indifference.
You are uncaring.
You have not perceived a conflict where you should have taken a side years ago.
They even raided as far north as Ireland and even beyond that up to Faroe Islands and Iceland!
My side is taken, and your accusation of ignorance means nothing to me. I suggest you re-read your own history and then come and talk to me about slave traders. I am on the side of truth, you on the other hand seem to be on the side of ignorance and bigotry.
Trying to insult me will get you nowhere as you know nothing at all about me or what i believe, it just shows the weakness in your own lame arguments. Perhaps you need to read the quran as well instead of only taking snippets of it to suit your own needs.
I know my history on slave trade and the only reason africans ended up in America is that the MUSLIMS sold them to the dutch. I have no insults for you, you are below my level of contempt I only insult them that are equal people like you are deserving of only my pity.
Dhimmi get used to it that will be your only title if pislam takes over.
Quote:
I am on the side of truth,
end quote.
No you’re not.
You’re on the side of your collectivist, anti-democratic prejudices.
And if you want to respond to insults, why don’t you choose threads that are insulting?
I have read the Quran.
I know about the judgment of Islam.
I know about the scalding water poured down the throats of non-Muslims, I know about the evil Islam excuses and encourages.
You think I am nothing but vermin.
Your religion is one of hatred and falsehood.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
This is what I believe.
And I don’t have to answer to anyone but God– a God who is not Allah.
Of course “your side is taken”.
You love Islam.
truthdig.” reading through these comments makes me sad at the level of ignorance prevalent in our society”Yes,ignorance prevalent in our society on your part.Please just see this with open mind. http://www.blip.tv/file/1382254. “It reminds me….native Americans…” Muslims have done and are doing exactly the same in Africa.Go to YouTube and type in ” slave trading-sudan” and “The Arab slave trade,our relationship with the muslims” john alembillah azumah” What Americans did to Japanese during ww2 was necessary,after the war it was all over.Where as muslim they want to dominated US.see http://www.danielpipes.org I pity ignorant and naive people like you who have their head buried in sand.You are more like falsedig than truthdig.May God have mercy on you.
You are clearly totally uninformed and people like you will be the cause of future generations of American non muslims being murdered and enslaved or forced to bow to demon allah. GET A KORAN and READ the last 1/3 of it because that is the part they live by then come back to this site. Til then go have a latte and discuss the islamaphobia with your equally uninformed and equally doomed friends.
The Muslim prophet Mohammad was an evil child molester (he married a 9 year old little girl) and an evil supporter of slavery.
truthdig , do you support Nazism? Why not? They are a minority with the VERY SAME objectives as islam.
That is such a silly comparison, and really makes no sense at all to someone who can think for themselves. Your tactics that you use are plain for anyone with a rational mind to see, and not worth much of a reply.
No it isnt they would love nothing better than to start the ovens back up in Auschwitz again. but then you would probably support that too because killing jews is cool now for you dhimmis.
Hamas claims they have ovens built and ready for the annihilation of the Jews. Your muslim friends had large regiments in the Nazi army. During the last caliphate muslims used to impale Christians on long spikes and watch them slowly die. Muslims are slaughtering non muslims all over the world as we sit here and post. I can supply you with over 100 links if you would like.
“There is non so blind as he who will not see”
Muslim SS units served in the Balkans.
The SS was a perfect fit for Islam.
When many Nazi war criminals needed sanctuary from legal proceedings, Arab countries gave it to them.
Islam is a theology of replacement.
Don’t ever think for a moment that Muslims see their theology as something you can add to your own beliefs. They’ll never stand for it and they’ll make short work of anyone who tries it.
I feel that many of these comments were left by prejudiced people. Why on earth would Muslims want to “take over” the US? Honestly. Use your brains sometimes. Historically, Jews were treated better under Muslim rule than under Christian rule. For example, in ancient Spain. Secondly, Muhammad was not a child molester. In, Europe, around that time, girls got married around the same age. You have to research yourself and form your own opinions. You can’t just follow what other people are going around and saying.
And to the person who said there are no moderate Muslims; almost all Muslims are either moderate or relaxed. I personally know Muslims who don’t wear the headscarf. I also know Muslims who do wear the scarf, but they are basically the typical American woman. Wake up! This is racism and generalization. It’s like someone saying that all Germans are like Hitler. Not all Muslims are like bin Laden. Unfortunetly, the crazy people get all the press.
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Why on earth would Muslims want to “take over” the US?
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Why indeed.
Why don’t you read the Quran and Hadiths and find out?
And we’re not talking about all Muslims necessarily.
What we are talking about is the content of the faith itself and the imperatives it presents to its adherents.
If you can’t differentiate between people and ideas, you have no business being here.
When Mr. Logan wishes to prove anything or make a point, he refers directly to the Muslim scriptures– the tradition and essence of Islam.
He isn’t pulling his case out of a hat.
Anonymos.”Why on earth would muslims want to ‘Takeover’ the US?” Here is the reason Quran Sura 2:193″Fight against them[infidels/kafurs]until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme” Also see this http://www.blip.tv/file/1382254 it is you who ought to use your brain. “Historically, Jews were treated better under Muslims rule than under Christian rule.For example in ancient Spain” Not always, ” The Christians resistance had its martyrs in Andalusia,under Abd al- Rahman II [822-852];his succesor,Muhammad I,yielded to the ULAMA of Cordova and obliged some of his Christian officials to convert so as to keep their positions.Relgious distrubances continued in the province of Elvira in 889,and in 891 Seville and its surrounding areas were drenched in blood by the massacer of thousands of Spaniards-Christian and MUWALLADS.At Granada in 1066,the whole Jewish community,numbering about three thousand was annihilated. In the Maghrab,where endemic anarchy prevailed ,sources mention the massacer in 1033 of five to six thousand Jews in Fez.The Almohad persecution in the Maghreb and Muslim Spain[1130-1212] eliminated Christianity there.In Tunis in 1159.Jews and the Christians who lived in this town had the choice of Islamism or death:one part became Muslim and the remainder were executed” I suggest you read a book by Bat Ye’or ” The Decline Of Eastern Christianity Under Islam” So it is all a myth ,that Jews and Christians were treated well under Muslim rule.You muslims are very quick to condemn others.see http://www.faithfreedo.org and http://www.islam-watch.org
Anonymos,”Mo-ham-mad was not a child molester.” How do you know? Sahih Bukhari Vol7, book62,number18. Narrated’Ursa’ The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for Aisha’s hand in marriage .Abu Bakr said, ” But I’m your brother.” The Prophet said,” You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His book,but she[Aisha] is lawful for me to marry” You say “In Europe,around that time ,girls got married around the same age” By saying that you muslims justify that it is Ok for Mo-ham-mad do the same.” I personally know muslims..don’t wear….wear head scarf…typical American Women” They will never die for US but will die for Islam.Muslims first loyalty is to Islam.”It’s like someone saying that all Germans are like Hitler.Not all muslims are like dust-bin-laden…get all the press” Do you want to know who the real Nazis were and are see http://www.tellthechildrenthetrut.com It is You who need to wake up.I have a very strong feeling you are a muslim ,commenting under pseudo name. Ever heard of a word “al-taqiyya”? see http://www.jihad-watch.org and http://www.creepingsharia.wordpress.com
They took over Lebanon as late as the 70’s by al-Hijra, immigration-jihad, first practiced by the pedophet mahound himself!
Your questions are best answered by someone who grew up in a muslim country and was raised in a strict muslim family:
http://nonie-darwish.blogspot.com/
I dare you to be brave and read the truth!
Here is more if you are brave enough to read:
http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/
Most people like you just want to hang on to their pie in the sky beliefs that were formed for them by MSNBC and CNN
You will always find muslims claiming what ever you quote from Quran or Hadiths,saying that ‘it is out of context’ as did this Syamsi Ali. Muslims are afraid of the Truth about Islam. see http://www.blip.tv/file/1382254
Qur’an 60:4 “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.'”
Deliberate misinformation? Why not post the verse in its entirety?? This narration is about Abraham‘s experience, and not about Allah or Muhammad. However, we have to continue to understand the wisdom of the holy books of all religions. Religion was about peace making and not otherwise. One God is referred to as oneness of creation, oneness of the universe and one family with diverse members in it. The idea is not the opposition of idolatry, but the opposition of enmity that is bred by individual Gods who are an extension of one’s ego and a sources of conflict. It was the idea of an abstract God that mitigated the conflicts among the warring tribes during Abraham and continued till this day. Even if there were a million Gods, from a humanistic point of view, one of them ends up ruling the others to have harmony among them.
lol wow another out of context defense lol keep working on it eventually you might come up with something someone might actually believe though I doubt it.
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Religion was about peace making and not otherwise.
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Study history or get the hell out.
Islam was spread through conquest.
First of Arabia, then outward.
Religion has never been about making peace. Religion has generated more wars than water rights!
And Islam?
Not about making peace for sure!
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The idea is not the opposition of idolatry, but the opposition of enmity that is bred by individual Gods who are an extension of one’s ego and a sources of conflict.
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Individual gods.
Can’t have them.
After all, if there might be individual gods, or gods with human qualities, then humanity might have a divine element!
You are not a Westerner.
Hercules, Perseus, Andromeda, Achilles, Helen of Troy, all these people were believed to have divine as well as human natures.
The idea of the human/divine natures side by side is ancient in the West.
Don’t think that Christianity displaced it.
If anything, it validated it, made it holy.
If you despise individualism, the individual, humanity, and if you spend your time enslaving yourself to a god which has nothing in common with you, you are in a sorry state indeed.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
The Koran is a false book.
Allah is a spirit of the world, a demon sent to keep people from themselves and from the true God.
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60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.
[60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.
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In other words, Muslims must regulate the behavior of unbelievers through aggression.
If unbelievers won’t submit to Islam, do as the Ummah commands, pay jizyah, give up sons and daughters for slaves, allow daughters to be raped and attacked, allow houses and churches to be burnt, not build more churches, not display crosses, etc etc etc etc. then Muslims will treat them kindly.
But if non-Muslims should decide that all this is unjust, well, then, that’s just too damn bad.
Right, truthdig?
those are not in other words, that translation is in your words. Perhaps you need to re-read those verses with out the bias and see what they really say. I also see these verses in the Quran:
4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) ‘Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper.”
42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach …
17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe …. Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.
22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do.”
There are many more verses of peace and tolerance in the Quran, but I am sure you are not interested in any of that. It is much easier for you to demonize 1.5 billion people, the majority of which are peace loving, good human beings. The verses you mention only support my position that Islam truly is a religion of peace and your statements are very, very bigoted.
Further more I am a student of history, and name me one empire which did not spread their beliefs by the tip of a sword? You conveniently omit that and only focus on Islam, which is disingenuous of you. You seem to be unable to be objective in your reasoning, if you were you would clearly see that many peoples conquered by Islam welcomed this new faith because of it openness and tolerance. Of course there are always bad apples who did things not in accordance with true Islam, but overall the treatment of non-Muslims as compared to that same treatment of non-catholics in Europe of that time is far superior. I suggest you read a history book or two, that, your version of history is distorted to say the least.
Your comment does not make the threatening verses disappear. This game does not work here.
My version of history is that of the West.
None other will satisfy me.
“the treatment of non-Muslims as compared to that same treatment of non-catholics in Europe of that time is far superior.”
Today in the 21st century muslims are murdering, imprisoning, kidnapping and torturing Christians, Hindu’s and Buddhists daily, Where do you get your info that people were glad to be forced to be muslims? From a muslim history book?
There is no freedom in islam. You march around all over Europe with “To Hell with freedom” posters. Women and children are chattel. STONING really? Stoning? How utterly barbaric. If your religion of abuse and hatred were to actually take over the world we would be hurled backwards into a dark age that would make the European dark ages look like a time of enlightenment. I will fight you til my very last breath. I am a Christian and you will not change that and you will NOT dhimmify me either. Take your lies and your hatred and go to some muslim sharia paradise and leave us alone because when the time comes we will stand!
The non threatening verses are often abrogated by the murderous ones.
I don’t know what BS you arevtalking about but I do know that Christians believe in a God of love. Yet muslims are slaughtering Christians in record numbers all over the world.
“Even if there were a million Gods, from a humanistic point of view, one of them ends up ruling the others to have harmony among them.”
Your muslim supremist intentions are exposed in that statement.
Christians and Jews also believe in the redemption of humanity from sin by God.
Muslims believe that Allah commands them to project their sins onto the other and then kill him.
Islam is profane.
A religion whose time came, and has long gone.
The koran is not even holy by a longshot. It’s the most satanic and unholy book with Mein Kampf on a close second and Das Kapital on a close third place.
Huge rally, all of about 300 people…. could we be so lucky that people are waking up?!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MUSLIM_HEARINGS_RALLY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-06-17-00-36
Geller gathered 40000 for her anti-GZM rally last summer. That was a bit more impressing.
America’s new hero. Our kind of Texas farmer.
http://tpartyus2010.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3180617%3ABlogPost%3A65243&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post
I knew several muz before 9/11. Some were seemingly good guys and some were obviously assholes, but 9/11 taught me something. The event proved to me that they can’t be trusted. There have been MANY events in the US since, some fatal, and many more barely avoided, perpetrated by young muzleem males….so they can’t be trusted. “One never knows what evil lurks in the mind of men”…The Shadow. My Christian arab contacts, by the very way they act, know how evil muz are and want little or nothing to do with them.
The Arab and Orthodox Christians living in the MME are important sources of guidance for us. They have lived with Islam since its first century or two of existence and understand Muslims and the risks of being associated with them.
Quote ‘Mohammed was not a child molester. Girls in Europe were married at that age around that time’.
Today in the uk there are Muslim preachers yelling about their right to marry nine year old girls, regardless of the harm done to those children. See Ayatollah Khomenei’s comments giving approval of sex with children.
Anyone who supports Islam supports stoning and other barbaric punishments. The two cannot be separated. Anyone in the West who indulges in such mindless cruelty is imprisoned for life or kept in a psychiatric unit.
There is no freedom in Islam. A man cannot even have control over his own facial hair.
Cultbusters say that if you control what someone eats, how they dress and their sex life, you can make them believe what you want.
Why would anyone give up freedom unless forced?
Please don’t believe anything they said my fellow Americans..
Islam is full of lie and deceit..
Maybe not all in the list are supporting this cult. Maybe that is just another lie and is just a made up by those imams to make it looks like many are supporting them.
Muslims are all liars.. they even claimed that JESUS and all the Prophets since Adam are islam too.. what a joke..
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