In attempt to scare off those who speak the truth about Islam, Muslims and their supporters continually toss out the term “Islamophobia”. The other day a Muslim posted a link to the plan on my site, and I am not exactly sure why he or she did it. Either way it is all layed on the website of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago. One of their goals is to try and equate the term “Islamophobia”, with a hate crime. There are numerous points in their plan that we need to counter.
There are obviously many lies in this list, but I will not bother to refute them all, we need the focus to stay on the actions we must take.
16 Ways You can Fight Cartoons & Islamophobia
1. Remember the Prophet. The Prophet was subject to horrible insults and hate crimes in his lifetime. He remained steadfast, patient and tolerant in the face of this Islamophobia. We must model this same behavior.
Good and Evil deeds are not alike. Requite evil with good, and he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend. But none will attain this save those who endure with fortitude and are greatly favored by God. (Quran 41: 34-35)
Pray that God guides these people who mock His messenger.
2. Keep sending Salam and Durood to the Prophet, which is the main way Muslim demonstrate our love for the Prophet.
3. Make protest more honorable since it is for the love of the Prophet. Perhaps a public recitation of the Quran either voiced or silent will be more powerful and worthy of the Prophet.
4. Do not engage in forms protest that are condemned in Islam. This includes burning flags or other symbols that people hold in esteem or insulting other religious groups. Unfortunately, some Iranian newspapers have commissioned the drawing of anti-Semitic cartoons in protest of the offensive Danish ones. This is a disgusting form of retaliation that deserves absolute condemnation. Not only does this contradict Islamic rules of respect for others, it will neither help fight Islamophobia, nor elicit any understanding about why Muslims are upset about the Danish cartoons.
5. Note that incidents of Islamophobia are not isolated. Whether it’s depicting the Prophet as a terrorist, disrespecting the Quran, torturing prisoners, bombing civilians or occupying Muslim lands, these are all signs of Islamophobia.
6. Also note that not all media or all non-Muslims support this type of insulting behavior. Many have been at the forefront of condemning torture, bombing and occupation.
7. Equate racism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. They all are fruits of the same tree of hate.
Ask them what race Islam is, and let them know Jews were no threat back in the 40s, but there is a a worldwide Sharia movement happening. So the comparison is not valid.
8. Start using the word Islamophobia to describe any kind of hate crime or speech against Islam and Muslims. Doing this will make the term uniform and eventually, an accepted part of the English language the way the term “anti-Semitism” is.
Number 8 clearly shows they just do not want any criticism of Islam. This is the main reason we must get this list to our local representatives. (Contact information will be provided below.)
9. If you are involved in interfaith work, bring up the topic of Islamophobia at your meetings. Stress the urgency and need for people of all faiths to help address and condemn it and all other forms of intolerance publicly. If possible, get the organization to issue a public statement condemning Islamophobia in general, as well as in response to specific incidents like those mentioned above.
Any of us that attend religious functions should print this plan up, and hand it out at our local houses of worship.
10. Sponsor reports on Islamophobia. Unless more documentation and yearly opinion surveys are conducted, people will continue to dismiss Islamophobia as a reality. So far, the UK is the only country which has officially commissioned a report on Islamophobia. The word has yet to become a part of American media.
11. Report any and every incident of Islamophobia you, your family or friends encounter. The FBI collects hate crime statistics. Report Islamophobia to them at your local FBI office. File a report with the Council on American-Islamic Relations at http://www.cair-net.org/ireport/. They issue an annual report on Muslim civil rights in the US. Also report the crime to your local police office.
Can it get any clearer than the above statement? When it comes to Islam, they want to make free speech a hate crime.
12. If it’s an election year, make sure your local Congressman or Congresswoman who relies on your vote is aware of Islamophobia. Organize a delegation of Muslims in your constituency if you can and arrange to make a presentation on the topic, as well as a list of clear things you would like your Congressman or Congresswoman to do about Islamophobia if they want your vote.
We must make sure our local politicians know that Muslims are out to end our freedom of speech, in regards to Islam.
13. For every incident of Islamophobia, write a letter to the editor and your local civil rights organization about it.
We need to take the time to write letters to editors of online papers, that use the term “Islamophobia” in their support of Islam. They probably have no idea how far Muslims want to take this.
14. Organize a program at your local mosque or community center about the problem of Islamophobia today. Hold a brainstorming session as part of the program as well to discuss how to solve this problem.
15. Thank those who speak out or act against Islamophobia. For instance, we should thank the US State Department for condemning the publishing of the offensive cartoons in Denmark.
16. Make Dua that Allah guides those who hold Islamophobic views and practice Islamophobia. The Prophet made Dua for the Quraysh, asking for them to be guided because they were ignorant of what they were doing by committing Islamophobic acts and saying wrong things against Islam and the Prophet.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to read my site, but please do more on this post and send a link to this post to your representatives. Just add a quick explanation about how Muslims are attempting to silence all critics of Islam.
The contact information for our local representatives, can be found HERE.
Here is the contact information for some major media outlets.
I figured that I would add some history, on the origin of the word “Islamophobia”.
Islamophobia: The word was created to silence all critics of Islam and the actions that occur under Islam. The word is a contraction to the meaning of the word phobia, as non-Muslims have every right to fear an Islamic takeover.
The notion of “Islamophobia” emerged from the Islamic Republic of Iran following the revolution in 1979. According to Caroline Fourest and Fiammetta Venner, two French journalists who have written extensively on the subject, the Iranian mullahs introduced the idea of a phobia to Islam as a response to international criticism of such practices as the forcing of women to wear headscarves, and persecution of homosexuals and other violators of “Islamic morality”.
When your fear of the consequences of Islam’s ideology is based on knowledge, it’s not Islamophobia, it’s Islamsophia.
Go to school online at your own pace with the Historyscoper and pump your mind up with a groundwork of facts that can win all arguments at http://go.to/islamhistory
That’s a terrible website .. messy and confused and even if it had good information in it, no one would want to plow through its disorganization and messiness …
Organize it better and section it off into links and separation pages with organizational though – and you might have people actually looking at it, instead of running away from it as fast as they can.
Obama needs to heed America’s increasing knowledge of Islam and the “9/11 Victory Mosque” at Ground Zero it represents.
OBAMA—-“Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us—a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today.”
NIHILISM—The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
Mr. President, were those terrorists who flew the planes into the WTC because of nihilism or Islamism? Did those who celebrated these “Islamic martyrs” around the Muslim world view them as nihilist or Islamists? Were all those countries that viewed and proclaimed them as Muslim martyrs also “rejecting all religious and moral principles and simply view life as meaningless?” Or could they have indeed been acting on those principles in the Quran that gave them justification for flying the planes into the WTC? But I only want to ask two questions—Nihilism or Islamism? And, should the Cordoba Mosque be built at Ground Zero?
I totally agree,the it´s not phobia at all,but legitimate concern for this ideology´s tragic consequences to any society.
Errata : please read “then” instead of “the” in”…the it´s not… etc
Hi Druk,
They call us “Islamophobes”, “bigots”, and “racists” in an attempt to get us to back off from speaking the truth about Islam. No one should fall for it.
I know folks and we must work hard developing our point with ever more solid argumentation , based on legitimate bases.
I do think all sites in this movement should make a webring for easier access.
I´ve been bookmarking the ones I visit the most, sharing articles on my Facebook and telling people about them either by email or by the posts themselves.
I’m not anti-islam, nor do I fear it. I’m just pro-American, pro-Western Civilization and pro-Humanity. When some a group presumes to threaten any of those things, I go a little nuts and want to see the blood and slaughter of those making the threats. Simple.
The first 4 points are camouflage==pray for their enemies. Is that before or after they
cut off you head? Then they start the real
instructions to use our customs & laws against us. This is a real campaign against
us.They are the victims, Sure. This should be sent to Bloomberg in NY & published everwhere.
I wonder what Barry thinks of the 16-point plan…
Isn’t he implementing it?
He probably yelled allahu akhbar when he first saw it.
Obama Admin is way ahead of the curve. They’ve already done away with any mention of “Islam” and “terror” mentioned in the same sentence. All that is left for them to do is pass the “hate speech” laws that are floating around Congress and soon the persecutions … errr … prosecutions will begin.
Too bad that pesky free speech amendment is in the way.
Oh I hope not…then it will be like England…say anything abut Islam you are arrested yet those Muslims burned red poppies and yelled “British soldiers burn in hell” but that’s not a hate crime.
Here’s a violent video…a beheading..with allah akbar..if you can bear to watch it
http://livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MzQz#
This will be coming to America
How about this:
Islam is the very essence of terror.
Or:
Terror is the heart of Islam.
Well,m we in the uk used to not use terror and islam in the same sentence. We were succesful in dumping the government after 15 years, and our new prime monister is now tackling terror good style!
The arroganze of Islam, do they really think, we are not going to see what liars they all are? In the name of their Jihad against the west? BUT DON’T UNDERESTIMATE THEM, BE VIGILANT,
There should be more of us, that take them to court, we should start an org. that we can donate to, then use it to help ordinary people fight islam, on the same level that they are.
EGGCELLENT IDEA… I nominate Chris Logan and Steve Emerson to be Chair and Co-Chair. We could organize massive protests wherever our Communist In Chief is appearing in public, and massive letter writing/phone calling campaigns to Senators and news media. We need the finances necessary to bring lawsuits against government officials and agencies which promote Islam/Sharia, such as the State Departments violation of Code of Federal Regulations Title 22 Section 205.1(d). These violations need to be prosecuted and people need to lose their jobs and/or go to jail.
When the government FEARS THE PEOPLE, there is Liberty. When the people FEAR THE GOVERNMENT, there is Tyranny. We MUST put the fear of the people back into those we elect to represent us.
Thank you for your endorsement!
Thank you for noticing. What do you think of the idea? Brent Bozell is doing something similar at mrcaction.org. But he is focusing on the media.
Well stated. How can we get this started. Please let us know.
Sorry, I’m totally onside with what’s being said, but have I missed a link connecting me with a site which will show me how to help?
My background is in classical languages, and I’m compelled to comment that the neologism
“islamophobia” makes absolutely no sense linguistically. If the term had any meaning, it would be something like “fear of islam.”
Anyone who doesn’t fear the bloodthirsty ignorance of the religion of peace is an idiot; the ninth century must not prevail.
I agree, islamomisia would be more apropriate.
suprkufrB, I agree with you completly. Especially now that Islam has an ally sitting in the most powerful position on the planet, along with his entire administration. Be afraid, be VERY afraid… but don’t cower in fear. We must stand up and fight back.
Wow, for fascists they have grasped the meaning of political correctness. Muslims must be liberals.
Interesting Q & A on certain passages of the qur’an and Islamic outreach and daw’a
http://vitor-palmer.livejournal.com
Thanks for the info Dan.
It’s not Islamophobia when they realy are trying to kill you.
I’ve just posted “A Brief Introduction To Islam, Using The Words Of The Islamic Holy Texts”, at http://tinyurl.com/25wupyr
Great work Vik!
We did our link..thanks
The arselifters are planning something big to the 10th anniversary next year. They advice arselifters to leave the areas of NYC and DC. The threat is supposedly from Al Qaida so could they really have nukes already?
Where did you find that they are advising muslims to leave NYC and DC?
This makes sense for in Islam, battles raging for years will get breaks…its always 10 years…this is so they can have a rest, let the youngsters get older, so they have fresh warrior arseholes.
This is true from the koran.
This is why Cordoba House mosque is being set up 10 years exactly after the 9/11 murders
If they want a break, don’t give it to them.
Islam wants truces because it breaks down and gets weak.
Don’t give them any truces, space, or breaks in time.
No quarter for Islam.
No quarter– this is the only to approach Islam.
The 10th anniversary of their “beautiful” attack on the Twin Towers?
I think all the people who have submitted since then should be listed publicly, and each confronted publicly on his or her acceptance of Islamic conquest.
Islamophobia (fear of Islam) is engendered by murderous hate crimes under color of Islam such as 9/11 and the recent massacre of medical workers in Afghanistan. Yes, whenever we hear “Allah akbar” we have reasonable cause to believe that something is going to be blown up–including possibly a mosque that belongs to the wrong “kind” of Muslims because most victims of mindless Islamofascist violence are in fact Muslims–or that somebody’s head is about to be sawed off.
Very few people who call themselves Muslims are terrorists but almost all terrorists call themselves Muslims, and Muslims need to repudiate those individuals as mufsidoon (evildoers) instead of condemning “Islamophobia.”
“Remember the Prophet. The Prophet was subject to horrible insults and hate crimes in his lifetime. He remained steadfast, patient and tolerant in the face of this Islamophobia. We must model this same behavior.”
Does that explain why the Prophet, if he can be called a prophet, retreated to Medina, after being criticized by the Quraysh people?
He raised a small army of friends, naive men who wer promised booty, and relatives, and returned to Mecca to confront the Quraysh. He then put them to seige, conquered and decapitated 80-900 boys and men, raped the women, and sold many into slavery, those who remained opposed to Muhammad’s cult ideas?
Islam has been like that ever since because Muhammad is “the perfect one” to emulate as a devout Muslim.
I am not “Islamophobic”. I just believe in telling the truth.
For more information go to: prophetofdoom.net.
Quote:
We must model this same behavior. end.
You do model his behavior.
You hate and hate and hate.
I don’t give a damn what evil Muslims call me. I’ll continue telling the truth about Islamism for as long as it takes.
Fact: Only stupid Muslims relegate women to second class citizens or worse. Okay, Stupid Muslims, call me an Islamophobe for telling the truth. See if I care. Civilized people never relegate women to second class. Only evil Muslims do this.
Fact: Only stupid Muslims are Suicide Bombers. Okay, stupid Muslims, call me whatever you want. The fact remains that only stupid Muslims are Suicide Bombers. Do you stupid Muslims know anyone else who is presently committing suicide in order to murder innocent people? I sure as hell don’t.
Fact: Only uncontrolled, depraved Muslim male sex perverts will force little girls as young as seven years old to “marry” uncontrolled, depraved Muslim male sex perverts. After the forced shameless “marriage,” the uncontrolled depraved Muslim male sex perverts will legally rape these little girls. Okay, you stupid evil Muslims, call me anything you want for telling the truth about uncontrolled depraved Muslim male sex perverts who commit these very evil crimes every day. We will continue to tell the truth about the Crime Syndicates of Islamism until our dying days. Do you really think that by calling me an Islamophobe, I will discontinue telling the truth about the Criminal Activity of Islamism? Grow a human brain so that you can think straight, and you’ll see for yourselves that we’ll never stop telling the truth about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Go right ahead and call me an Islamophobe. If you do, I’ll write some more facts about the Criminal Activity of Islamism.
Get set and read another fact about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Islamism is the only Crime Syndicate that chops off clitorises of little girls. Islamism is the only Crime Syndicate that deliberately tortures little girls before chopping off their clitorises. Shame on you Muslim Beasts! At present there are 140 million Muslim women running around without a clitoris. Shame on pedophile, child molester Muhammad. Shame on you shameless Muslim beasts. Go right ahead stupid. Call me an Islamophobe for telling the truth about the Crime Syndicates of Islamism. See if I care. I’ll never tire telling the truth about your very evil Islamic ideology.
Another fact about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Islamism is the only cruel “religion” that stones women to death for getting raped by a herd of Muslim males. Imagine, the Muslim wild animals that try to pass themselves as human beings will rape an innocent woman, and it’s the woman that is stoned to death.
Fact: Muslim males are allowed to commit adultery with impunity. The Muslim wild perverts accumilate several so-called wives and then have sex with several playmates. Everybody knows that polygamy is tantamount to legalized adultery, and Islamism admits it in a round about way. If Muslim females accumilated several playmates like the Muslim male perverts, and had sex with them, you evil Muslim bastards would stone them to death for committing adultery. Okay, you evil Muslims, call me an Islamophobe for pointing out this truth. The truth remains; Islamism is a Crime Syndicate forever on a rampage to commit unique atrocities. Call me what you will, Muslim Boys, I will continue telling the truth about the grave evils committed by the Crime Syndicates of Islamism. So long until you get tired calling me an Islamophobe. I’ll be back to expose more Islamic atrocities to the world.
WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAMISM BEFORE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAMISM DESTROYS US AND A FEW NICE MUSLIMS WHO ADMIT THAT ISLAMISM IS A CRIME SYNDICATE.
Well put!
Regarding the chopping off clitoris part:
The lunatics also practise male circumcision, and that’s not very much less evil than female circumcision. That too is child abuse and illegal violence.
Do you have a cunning plan to do something about it?
No, not for that problem specifically. We just have to keep informing people about truth, lies, facts, myths, frauds, misunderstandings etc. of any kind.
they (men)are also allowed to “marry” for an hour, so they can enjoy prostitutes without committing adultery…. what a bloody laugh!
Afghan males also use small boys as sex toys…its all over the papers,,google “islams dancing boys”.
Yet they hang adult gays…
they are sick sick bastards
Just watch the video clips on MemriTV.com, it makes you sick how these guys talk about when grils are ready to be married, how to beat your wife.
This sick ideology needs to be wiped out, or at least let it stay in the Deserts of the Middle East, where the sick profeet Mohammed started his reign of terror.
How can educated people be so blind? Just take part of the Koran you like and easily put aside the horror in this book.
By the way did the event of the Koran burning in Florida go through?
All the evidence against Islam, and Muslim immigration is out there. The problem is that far too many people, want to stay purposely blind to the threat. If non-Islamic countries, do not end Muslim immigration, it is just a matter of time until they takeover. As they will never stop pushing.
That day is on 9/11. I will post the video of it here.
One of the best things Ive read all day. Excellent. Thankyou
I left this on their web site:
“instead of whining and crying about “Islamaphobia” how about doing a little apologizing for all the deaths that your radical Islamists are causing.
now in Egypt
Thailand
Indonesia
and thats just this morning.
e-mail me here with your apology and i will broadcast it on our web site:
http://www.infideltaskforce.webs.com.
don’t waste this opportunity to build some points. if you decline..you probably will roast in Hell with your Allah.
Let me know soon, so I can plan around the day.”
Hey Christopher –
Thanks for all the great info exposing this sick cult of infidel hatred and women enslavement.
Someone – you, perhaps? – should rewrite this whole piece, substituting the word “Infidelophobia” for “Islamophobia.” E.g.:
8. Start using the word Infidelophobia to describe any kind of hate crime or speech against non-Muslims. Doing this will make the term uniform and eventually, an accepted part of the English language the way the term “anti-Semitism” is.
Also:
“7. Equate racism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. They all are fruits of the same tree of hate.”
No, people with morals equate Islamophobia with pedophilia and misogyny. THESE are fruits of the same tree of hate. And anyone who doesn’t hate the misogyny and pedophile-support of Islam is a reprobate.
Mohammed the Reprobate…
Don’t any of these people ever ask themselves WHY so many people hate Islam? Are they completely insensate and depraved?
Hi Acharya,
Muslims do not care what we believe, in their mind they are doing Allah’s work and Islam is the savior of the world.
Kafirphobia is the word you want.
it is all hogwash, Chris.
lol Yah it is kinda like being called a racist because you disagree with resident bobo. Islamophobia is new and already it has no meaning.
So I am an islamophobe? So what! The 16 point plan is nothing but smoke and mirrors
to try and cover up, rationalize 1400 years
of violnce, persecution and death from islam
and sharia law. I will be sharing this one
and thanks to the mussie who posted the link
for this.
Never fear islam and do not show them fear.
In islam this is seen as a weakness, just
like doing nothing or trying to work with
or bargin with islam. It cannot be done.
I have sent this to our state’s politicians
as they are as ignorant as they can be about
islam. Thanks so much CL. You and your site
are true blessings in the whacko job world.
Hi,
Thank for taking the time to email this link. The Muslim that posted the plan here, was not paying attention
Thanks for keeping us up to date on what they are doing to try to take over here Chris. You are doing a great job!
I like my 1 point plan…
1.Deport all of the muslims, and start implementing it now. Never mind what they say, show them the exit.
Keeping it real simple love it
Re the paki floods…
Why in hell would we send aid to our enemies? These people have demonstrated amply that they hate us. Lets all raise hell everywhere for them to NOT get any western aid at all. Call and write your congressman and make this message heard. In addition, make them aware that any legislative assistance to islam or muslims will result in a deathblow to their political career next election. Lets call for recall of any legislators helping muslims.
I agree. On the one hand they curse us and on the other they take and take and take.
I say no more!
Gary,
Did you see your new friend from Pakistan?
https://loganswarning.com/2009/12/29/the-real-islamvideo-by-pastor-terry-jones/
Look for a few posts from a guy named “shahrukh”.
Thanks for the heads up, Chris! 🙂
They take “aid” as a tribute rightfully due to them purely because they are muslim…honest, they do.
I agree with you CW O, no more aid to them, and no more allowing them to come here. We have cut our wrists long enough.
Linking Islamophobia to hate speech does not make anti-Islam speech punishable under the law, unless the anti-Islam speech is a directed threat towards an individulal of Islamic origin. Hate crimes against Muslims would be addressed in exactly the same way that hate crimes against members of all religions, races, or sexualities are currently addressed. They would be addressed in a way that is accepted by the ACLU as upholding free speech, as shown here:
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/aclu-statement-hate-crimes-legislation-crime-subcommittee-house-committee-judic
Your website is a disgusting and infuriating attempt to disparage an entire group of law-abiding, patriotic American Muslims. You base your arguments on unsound logic and flimsy contortions of Muslims’ attempts to defend their religious freedom. In fact, Muslims are not a threat to American democracy. However, this website’s advocacy for the destruction of religious freedom IS a threat to American democracy.
If you followed the issue closely you would know that Muslims are attempting to takeover America by using our laws against us. They are also using the freedoms of Europe against Europe to slowly takeover. They are trying to takeover within the law. There is a Sharia movement happening within America, and to say that is not a threat to democracy is just ridiculous. I bet the non-Muslims of the Middle East, and Turkey did not think Islam was a threat at first either.
Islam/Sharia Law 101/Sharia Mosques in America (I base my arguments on the actions of Muslims, and trying to advance Sharia here is a lot more than Muslims defending their religious freedoms.)
https://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/
Granting Islam religion status was a huge mistake, and our Founding Fathers would not have let the country fall to Islam in the name of freedom of religion. Do you want your family’s future generations to be forced to live under Islamic rule? Because that is what is going to happen if Islam is not stopped. Now please point out the large Muslim movement in America against Sharia Law.
Thank you.
Bashing my site does not make the threat of Islam go away, and if you really were for religious freedom you would not be taking a stand for Islam.
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
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YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
I have “followed the issue closely,” as you say, and I have also checked out many of the other posts on your site.
Most of your claims about what Islam says are based on your readings of Islamic doctrine. Yes, Islamic Sharia law exists, as does law in the Bible and the Hebrew Old Testament. Every religion has their ancient texts, but that does not mean that members of those religions follow the texts word-for-word or wish to impose them upon other people. Plenty of Christians recognize that the Bible need not be taken literally, and likewise, most Muslims in the US practice their faith without advancing the interpretations of Shariah law that you find objectionable. They don’t have to be “against” Sharia law as you say, they just recognize that their religious texts have multiple interpretations. That’s something you should realize.
I see, you are the spokesperson for “most” Muslims. Christians and Jews are not on worldwide movement looking to impose religious laws on all, but Muslims are. Many of them are not hiding their agenda. That is something your should realize. If they were so against Sharia Law in America they would be speaking out against it, they are not. When you can prove my “claims” about Islam to be false, let me know, and Sharia Law calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, so save the multiple interpretations excuse for another site.
and, many Christians, Jews, and people of other religions also try to impose their religions on others.
Take the Westboro Baptist Church, for example, which terrorizes families at funerals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I don’t disagree that Muslim extremists are using violence in the name of God. But they are just that – extremists. Unfortunately, perfectly good religions like Christianity and Islam get bad reputations because of the terrible, violent few.
Comparing that one Church to the worldwide Sharia movement is ridiculous. Islam is a religion that condones terrorism and rape, and Muslims are causing the same problems across the world. That is not just the acts of a few. You will not fool anyone here.
Holding up protest placards isn’t terrorism – except in your own morally relativistic mind.
There are no arselifter extremists. Those one are behaving exactly as their religion tells them to behave.
I have one additional point to make regarding this post.
You say
“let them know Jews were no threat back in the 40s, but there is a a worldwide Sharia movement happening. So the comparison is not valid.”
Actually, the cause for the Holocaust was that many Europeans DID believe that Jews were a threat. Since Jews were in many positions of power as lawyers, in banks, etc. there was widespread paranoia that they were “taking over.” Of course, we now know that this was wrong. A similar paranoia is occurring today – people like you falsely believe that Muslims are “taking over.” I hope and pray that this paranoia will not lead to something as terrible as the Holocaust.
Outside of Israel Muslims have taken over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Malaysia, large portions of Africa, Europe and had Pakistan created, etc. Those are facts, not paranoia. How much more land do they have to takeover before you wakeup?
I’ll continue to post facts, and you will continue to say it is not happening. The readers are not dumb.
Muslims have “taken over?” huh?
No, actually, Muslims have lived in those countries since before Christians “took over” North America in the 1600s.
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
They were original Christian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist and Hindu countries.
Are you admitting you’re so ignorant you don’t know how they became arselifter countries?
You’d better start doing some reading –
http://www.historyofjihad.com/
So you support their sharia efforts, do you?
i know that there were people of all religions living there. and there still are today. i’m just pointing out that it’s not like they moved in as outsiders and “took over,” as the admin claimed.
i guess you’re referring to the fact that those nations are Islamic states governed by Sharia law. You ask do I agree with that – no, I don’t. I believe in freedom of religion, so I do not believe a country should define itself as an Islamic state or impose its religious principles on others.
However, this has nothing to do with the rights of Muslims living in this country. Those Muslims have chosen to live here largely BECAUSE America has freedom of reliigon. To claim that they are trying to “take over” American democracy is ludicrous.
Non-Muslims are persecuted across the Islamic world, and yes Muslims took over most of the Middle East. So trying to whitewash the issue.
No matter how many times you want to say it is not happening, this site and many others clearly document the Sharia movement within America. This circular conversation is now over.
Non-Muslims are persecuted across the Islamic world, so we should get back at them by hurting innocent Muslims in the US? Gosh, I didn’t know two wrongs made a right.
If you wish to end the conversation, I will. However, I hope that you will continue to challenge yourself by engaging in discourse with those who disagree with you.
Best,
Free Religion&Speech
Challenge myself? I post facts that show the Sharia movement and all you do is say it is not happening. That may work on other sites, but it does not here. Fighting Islam is the right thing to do.
Islam is a threat to Western Civilization, and Muslim immigration is changing the West to suit Islam. There is no major Muslim movement against the Sharia movement, and tolerating Islam is a slow suicide. I have been speaking out for eight years now, I will not stop.
Mate…in the uk here we have had “hate speech” laws designed PURELY to protect muslims. In Amstardam Islam “hate speech” laws have specificaly been designed to protect Islam…six people have been prosecuted just because they say that Islam is a lie.
Ok then tell us the truth about Islam:
Do you subjugate and beat women, are they allowed out of the house alone in islamic countries, do afghan men have little sex boys, do muslims throw gays off a high place, are hands and feet cut off? Are you allowed to dance, drink alcohol,go to a bar alone?
Are children married off to 60 year old men?
Do you mutilate a girls sex parts?
Isnt Islam designed for, and intending to dominate the world?
Who is the best at blowing up themselves?
Come on, tell us then..all about the lovely islam
Sir, The weapons of mass destruction were used by USA and not others. Remember the casualties of two world wars, Vietnam war and crimes and gulf war casualties and crimes against humanity. Islam whosoever knows must read that it starts making the human first a self disciplined one who must stood for rights and respect of human dignity among all irrespective of faith. Today west has upper hand and they have given blue culture, weapons of mass destruction and above all made human a self centered with no unison culture. Parents live apart, women are not given due honour whereas Islam still remember Hadrat HAJRA, Khatooneyjanat and so on who were ideals to human race. What is followed by Muslims is not Islam. Islam presents a top gear socioeconomic system among society without discriminating on faith. Islam is not practiced in full form among 90% population of Muslims. The comfort and creed does not allow Muslim leaders to follow religion in its letter and spirit. Let first debate that what is actual Islam and does it gets translated into action.
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Islam whosoever knows must read that it starts making the human first a self disciplined one who must stood for rights and respect of human dignity among all irrespective of faith.
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Yusuf Ali:
57. 60 O ye who believe!
Take not for friends
And protectors those
Who take your religion
For a mockery or sport,—
Whether among those
Who received the Scripture
Before you, or among those
Who reject Faith;
But fear ye God,
If ye have Faith (indeed).
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Whatever happened to the human dignity of the Copts of Egypt?
Whatever happened to the human dignity of the parishioners of Our Lady of Salvation?
Whatever happened to the human dignity of 3,000 plus people on 9/11?
The crimes of the West do not excuse the crimes of Islam.
America did not start those two WWs, and we fought to win. So what is your point? Do you think bring them up is going to get non-Muslims to back off on Islam? It will not, and nothing you say here will.
Islam calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, that is not respect.
Sure, I’ll start the debate. Islam condones extortion, lying, kidnapping, and slavery. It also discriminates against non-Muslims, and women. Have you actually read the Islamic scriptures?
I will make this easy for you, the regular commenters on this site have heard the excuses over and over. We do not, and will not accept Islam.
sword is no answer to the crimes perpetrated by anyone. Muslims are facing deaths and occupation because of division among them. There are traitors among them. They lost for want of dollars and beauties. Corruption is top among them. Follow true Islam, make advancement by self hard work instead of getting charities. Follow Japan which stood even after Mass killings by atom bomb. The problem of Muslims is themselves, as they are getting their matters decided by others. Others can only make fools and occupation. They research Islamic history to divide on the ground of SHIA, Sunni etc whereas there was nothing as such when Prophet (PBU) was alive. Let start calling Muslim only instead of so and so. Become best muslim (honest, hard working to stood all tests)by becoming best human who is desired by every one
Do you realize this is not a pro-Islamic site? Do you care to talk about the Hindu Kush?
All PRAISE TO ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE START AND THE END, SUPREME KNOWLEDGABLE WITH INFINITE WISDOM. THE HUMAN CAN JUDGE ALL THESE IN THE CREATION VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, HUMAN PERFECTION WITH UNLIMITED VEINS AND, SEPERATION OF FLOW OF SALTY AND THE SWEET WATERS, FRUITS AND FLOWERS, VEGETABLES, RICE AND WHEAT. EVERY CREATION BOWS BEFORE HIS CREATOR.
HUMAN have no pride or substance to either celebrate or feel sorrow for misdeeds. Humans must perfect their wisdom and ability to serve the purpose of birth so that they may enjoy the permanent future by doing good deeds during this short life in the world. Good character, ability to stand firm on justice with fairness to all fellow humans and subjecting themselves to be scanned against Satanic-virus by observing prayers and fast for purity of soul and heart, are the main organs which count for the ultimate success. Those who desire no tears in the eyes of their loves ones should also ensure that they never become a part of evil to inflict these very tears in the eyes of others.
Today humans are divided in boundaries of land, faith, language, culture, color, caste and cadre. Land may be demarcated for law and order. Faith may be wisdom, knowledge and belief, culture may be human dignity and respect, color may be unity in diversity of human rainbow spectrum, caste may be superiority in human perfection in ability to serve the fellow humans, and cadre may be the ladder to share maximum responsibility with accountability without subverting the aims to serve and diluting the human ethics.
The world order based on above lines may be the living paradise for every one. Thus no one would feel isolated and ignored. Let the land, wealth and human consumables be shared. Wisdom and knowledge be spread. Education must stand for perfection of human character and ethics. Religion may become the spirit to serve and sacrifice in place of covertly using the name of God for all nonsense. The biggest crime is to exploit the sentiments of humans, particularly his sympathy for anyone in distress and the unquestioned following for his religion.
If you are talking about Islam, this is just a con because non-Muslims do not have it good under Islamic Law.
Sounds like a totalizing ideology to me, with aspirations of world domination.
Stalin anyone?
Hitler anyone?
Dear Ricardo Montalban; ah.. ah.. I mean Khan. You should get off fantasy island and spend time on another episode of Star Trek. OK!
Sounded like religious communism to me.
That could never happen whilst Islam is trying to take over the world. You can’t force peace by violence and control. Its an oxymoron.
Islamophobia – Fear of Islam. How can a fear of something possibly be equated to a hate crime. That’s like blaming the victim.
Comparing the q’ran to the historical records Old Testament is not appropriate. Christianity did not exist in the old Testament. Christ came to change that. The Q’ran instructs muslims to commit violence.
Actually, it is blaming the victim in this case. It’s easy to subscribe to the just world theory when you claim absolute perfection.
who is controlling the world, is it muslim, no sir, it is others who are in control of even muslim world. Muslims are not safe in even in their own country. Islam’ purity existed at the time of prophet is not there. Prophet fought only when he was forced to leave mecca and attacked.He re-occupied Medina and spared every enemy without revenge. What is lacking today is that Muslims are divided in 57 nations with no NATO/European union like sharing of force/economy. While there is contribution to fight/pay for every attack even by small nation, here even small nations are fighting among themselves. There is no sacrifice factor among muslims to share their needs. The muslims were trained for militancy by others to fight USSR. Actually every bad thing was prepared by others and muslims were used to receive wounds/deaths only. Even literature was published to incite religious feelings among them in covertly operated Institutions. Go to secret records and find the truth. Muslim nations have no secrecy their leaders are selfish and sell everything for dollars. They are far away from Islam. Islam’s practices have fully been adhered to at the time of prophet and so 313 defeated large attack. Rental paid army cannot fight. Islam does not desire to control others or to kill human. It desire that every human should go to paradise by opposing SATAN and embracing the truth and truth is that all humans are one race, belongs to unity of GOD, preached by Prophets ISSA, MUSA and MOHAMMED (PBU all). The text of all holy books in original is respected and treated as GOD message only. Let the world becomes crime free, hunger free and everyone gets shelter. Killing human is crime and this crime whosoever do or help to do is criminal. Publish good, make good, invent good instead of inventing killing material. Who tops in inventing killing machines. Anyone who is making a lake,is preparing for paradise, but anyone making killing material is preparing for hell. Unite the people around the world. Find similarities of nobleness among themselves and project to share and spread nobility. Produce Mother Treasa Eidee like persons. Hate only invite hate. Become an angle of love and peace. Do not fear anyone except fear GOD to follow good. SATAN is your enemy and none. Do not allow SATAN to occupy your land/heart. Become a person to be loved. Energize positive signals and stop negativity. What is wrong with muslims, tell them instead of criticizing. Help everyone to honor every human and share all good.
Hina,
Go find another site to play the victim card. Mohammad was a terrorist, liar, and rapist. He deserves no respect.
Hina said: “Islam does not desire to control others or to kill human.”
It obviously controls you, and it calls for the dominance of non-Muslims. Either back up your statements with some proof, or do not bother to post here.
Your prophet is false.
Your religion is profane.
Your culture is corrupt and criminal.
You have only cunning and no brilliance.
Cunning should never be mistaken for discipline.
War is not judgment.
God did not commission you to judge and destroy.
Stop playing the angel when you are not the angel. Presumption, in my religion, is a deadly sin.
A better question is: Who should not be controlling the world? Answer: Muslims
Satan creates evil and what is evil; largely it is devoid of good. It is the end stage of a process that begins with self-desire and ends with the inability to tell right from wrong. It is evil when there is no thought of kind ship, equality or love, when human act in separation from others, when he assume authority over or control of others or are indifferent to those who are his responsibility. It is evil to fail to regard those fall within human sphere of influence, with compassion. This condition results from history of ego, gratification and justification during which the ego becomes impervious to anything but its own desires creating a wall of difference that resists anything that threatens its supremacy. When people isolate themselves from others, they are unable to relate since they can only dictate. The characteristic common to all evil people is the absence of love to humanity. The evil person is incapable of giving or receiving love and so left with no option except to function through other means. These means are necessarily detrimental and deterrent. Now the question arises, whether it is NATURE or NURTURE that is responsible for the evildoer’s mentality. Nurture is the basic instinct that plays vital role. It is the early absence of love, which makes every one self absorbed and aloof. These tendencies further grow and person becomes arrogant.
A man feeling pride in his piety, wealth, knowledge or family honor and prestige and thus claiming superiority to the ignorant and the poor who have no sense of proportion and humor looses every thing. The prerequisite of idealism calls for the common bonding of humanity relating to others. Relating the work of any nature to disrespect is denial of human rights and disrespect to whole of the humanity. Any preoccupation within the intellectuals cannot breed the result-oriented policies benefiting the whole of the civilization. The mankind has to be kept away from false notion that keeps him driving to act in evil way and suppress the subjects under his command to the extent that compel for suicides. Many evil personalities play with the word of tolerance in such a way that makes it synonymous with indifference. There is growing element of educated people, which does not look to any principle or faith with favor. These people have no beliefs, nor do they challenge the views that are indifferent to all. These people holds the view that they are not sitting as judge and therefore do not desire to mend the evilness. Truly the man has to judge the things independently and must guard the rights and equality to fulfill the human obligations with sincerity and devotion. Tolerance means that a man should have an open mind and heart to understand and receive the sorrow of others with sympathy, kindness by avoiding the slips, errors, and not finding the faults in the capacity of a judge.
The aim of the humanity has to be well defined and understood. Reality and truth- ness must be sincerely accepted and practiced. The cosmetic functioning under the shadow of any kind of fervor must cease to exist from the inner self of all the individuals. The purpose of life shall have to be defined in clear and literate terms by following the factualism while constituting the governance. Let us take an oath that the world, where all humans’ lives are honored with sweetness during conversation, dealt-with smiling, cheer every one and do the best to succeed a successful life without any threat, dishonor and injustice to any individual on this planet. The humans world over have to come together to safeguard the interests that are posing danger from unscrupulous persons and destroying the heretofore well set order and putting the people power and prestige in danger. Wisdom demands to be practical in this world of action and must live in reality without building the future on sandy dreams.
Every human being is blessed with conscious moral, which strictly stops the soul to practice evilness. If one takes a decision with peace and without any influence either through prejudice or under the name of intimate relations in form of religious sentiments or caste/cadre equations, may well overcome the satanic evils. The common people too are aware of the basic approach to deal-with fairly but shortfalls the correct decisions under the influence of liquor, bias, money and religious fervor. The total environment of the nations has to be enriched with quality of self, responsibilities towards the society and the last to ensure that in case, one cannot contribute to the well being of humanity, must enjoy his own life without becoming a threat to anyone.
Seriously, you type a lot but say nothing. I will not accept Islam.
The more verbose your case, the harder it is to prove.
The coming, life, character, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ was foretold by more than a millennium of prophecy.
The only prophecy of Mohammed is that of Jesus himself, and he asserts that this would be a false prophet.
Mary was not the daughter of Jochebed, not the sister of Moses and Aaron.
And another grain of truth: she was Jewish– not Muslim.
I know, isn’t it ridiculous?! Who has time to read that garbage.
Your message would be better spent on your Venomous Imams and muslim brothers, not here. Western people are not responsible for the hate coming out of Arabian today – no matter how you spin it.
Sure they are – Westerners ignore the threat of Shar’iah and support the cause in the following way:
1) doing what you just did
2) writing checks to the local mosque
3) writing letters of support to the newspapers of their hometown talking about how ‘peaceful’ Islam is
4. talking to legislators, teacherrs, politicians, attorners and others about how Israelis bully others and moslems don’t (the examples I could cite are COUNTLESS so don’t bother defending yourself, you will only sound retarded)
I could go on and on – I think we all get the point.
Please move on with your politically correct and rather idiotic argument. Chris is doing EXACTLY what he needs to do and what many of us are also doing. if you do not understand it? read the qur’an, sira and hadith. but something tells me you DO get it and simply don’t want others smartening up. either way? move on – and piss off.
Your prophet is false.
Your culture is corrupt.
Your communication is absurd.
And your ethics are all directed toward evil and destruction.
Even if you had the world you wanted, you would spend all your time imposing fear through brutality and mass murder.
Let me add that even if you had the world you wanted, you would end up destroying it.
Such is your love of war, judgment, and pride-sacrifice.
khan
You are a foolish man. Cannot you see what Islam is doing to the world? It is raping, murdering and pillaging in most countries. It is set on world domination, all the mullahs are constantly telling us they are coming to rule us.
Im gay, and guess what they want to do to me? Offer me a choice of deaths!!!
Now Fuck off outa this place.
They can shove all 16 points, in their 16 holes of deceit, disgust, dementia, delusions, dumb ass domination all stemming from their small, little, pathetic, impotent, and insignificant selves. Terrorism is the wimpiest, weakest, lowest form of cowardice on the planet. They can’t fight to save the stinky rags on their heads. The intimidation tactics keep the stupid government from taking measures to protect us, but soon, we’ll be doing it. Then Islamocide will have the Ameriphobic Rag Heads Running for the borders swimming for their lives and back to Mecca, where they can Mecca their culture stick, because there’s no place for it here on our soil… Hitler had the same propaganda out there about the Polish attacking them as an excuse to annihilate them.. It was all crap, LIES, and they played all peaceful and victimized and like the decent people they were not even related to in any way… pure evil, violent, sadistic, torturing scum. If this country doesn’t snap out of denial, there’s gonna be big time REGRET. Some will be prepared and will fight like the devil, with all they have because we won’t go down in blindsided forced submission..
I always follow up the “islamophobia” slur with
.. “I do not suffer from islamophobia, but I DO suffer from Islamonausea… I’m sick of you bastards trying to shove down my throat a Theocratic Political System, Disguised as a Religion… that was founded by a Psychopathic CHILD MOLESTER.”
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Pray that God guides these people who mock His messenger.
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We “mock God’s messenger” by criticizing Islam.
Muslims mock God himself by denying Christ.
Thanks for the link back!