American Muslims and Protestants, Can we talk?
American Protestants need to understand that their American Muslim neighbours do worship the very same God.
By Hesham A. HassaballaLast week, the Pentagon rescinded their invitation to speak at a National Day of Prayer event for pastor Franklin Graham, son of Rev. Billy Graham, because of his past and current sentiments about Islam. Speaking about the decision, Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins said, “This Army honors all faiths and tries to inculcate our soldiers and work force with an appreciation of all faiths and his past comments just were not appropriate for this venue.”
In 2001, Franklin Graham said, “We’re not attacking Islam but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God. He’s not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It’s a different God, and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion.”
In 2006, he didn’t back down saying, “I know about Islam. I don’t need an education from Islam. If people think Islam is such a wonderful religion, just go to Saudi Arabia and make it your home. Just live there. If you think Islam is such a wonderful religion, I mean, go and live under the Taliban somewhere. I mean, you’re free to do that.” Then, in a Wall Street Journal piece, Graham wrote: “the persecution or elimination of non-Muslims has been a cornerstone of Islamic conquests and rule for centuries. Graham also said the Quran “provides ample evidence that Islam encourages violence in order to win converts and to reach the ultimate goal of an Islamic world.”
Pretty tough talk from a major Christian pastor. It also seems that a majority of Protestant ministers agree with Franklin Graham. Nashville-based LifeWay Research conducted a poll of 1,000 Protestant ministers and read them a negative statement about Islam from Franklin Graham and then read them a statement by George W. Bush that Islam is a religion of peace and charity. Forty-seven percent agreed with Graham’s statement, twelve percent agreed with both Graham and Bush, and about twenty-five percent agreed with Bush alone.
Yes, it is tough talk from a Christian pastor. Of course you would rather that Christians turned the other cheek, and just let Islam dominate them. I also noticed that you have not refuted anything that the Reverend stated.
“This means a majority of Protestant pastors chose statements that agree with Franklin Graham’s statement,” said Ed Stetzer, president of LifeWay Research, to the Tennessean newspaper. Stetzer also said, “This should not surprise us — Protestant Christianity is, in a sense, a competing faith, and that comes through in the survey.” Most ministers also said Muslims and Christians do not pray to the same God.
This means that American Muslims and Protestants have a lot of work to do. There needs to be more dialogue between the two faith communities: not to convert each other’s flock, but to promote increased mutual understanding. American Protestants need to understand that their American Muslim neighbours do worship the very same God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, and Jesus. They need to understand that the name, “Allah,” is just the Arabic form of the Aramaic “Alaha,” which is what Jesus Christ called God. American Protestants should know that Islam reveres and honours Jesus Christ, who is mentioned more by name in the Quran than the Prophet Muhammad himself.
This a major lie. The God of Christianity, cannot be the same God as Islam. According to the Islamic scriptures, Jesus will return as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. I am pretty sure that the God of Christianity, would not agree to this.
Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)
Contrary to the contentions of Franklin Graham, Islam does not preach the “persecution or elimination of non-Muslims.” Rather, Islam sees itself as the culmination of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and it honours its Prophets and traditions. The Quran says, “Verily, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians — all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds-shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve” (2:62) More of our Protestant brothers and sisters need to understand this.
That was another major lie, you are on a roll Hesham.
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YUSUFALI:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
That sure sounds like persecution to me.
Are there some Muslims who believe that Christians and Jews are Islam’s enemies? Yes, most definitely. But they twist and distort the message of Islam and the tradition of the Prophet Muhammad. Their misunderstandings should not be projected upon the whole of Islam any more than, for example, the crimes of pedophile priests should be projected upon all of RomanCatholic Christianity.
Hesham scores again, hat trick! Lie number three, and there is no misunderstanding here.
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Those sicko Priests need to be locked up, but their religion did not command them to do what they did.
The poll’s findings, however, were not all negative. Despite the fact that most pastors held negative views regarding Islam, 60 percent believed Muslims and Christians should coexist peacefully in the United States.
Said Ed Stetzer, “The fact is Protestant pastors tend to hold a negative view of Islam, but they also believe they should seek to coexist.” This should be the starting point of Christian-Muslim dialogue. Once both communities come to learn about one another, bonds of friendship and trust will develop, and the forces that seek to divide our people along religious lines will be resisted and their voices of discord can be muted for good.
Are you going to mute the voice of Islam for good? If not, your words mean nothing. Islamic smokescreen fails.
Can we talk?…about what?…about how you expect us to deny our Lord and Savior and bow down to a meteorite to honor some illiterate,mass murdering pedophile or you will lop off our heads with that scimitar hidden beneath the robes you wear to give yourselves a faux air of 'holiness'…why,sure,Mahmoud…we can talk…..just let me strapon my Astra 9mm parabellum and you can tell me anything you like.
1400 years later, and some people actually believe that inter-faith talks are going to change things.
I don't think christians worship a moon-deity so how could it be teh same god as that of pislam?
Its not. If you study hislam, its clear that allah is Hubal, a moon god openly worshipped in Arabia and parts of Iraq and Iran at the time. That's why the koran never explains who allah is. It didn't need to since all the arselifters of the time understood allah to be hubal. Mahound kept up all the pagan practices of the time. Walking around the kabah counter-clockwise, running between two hills, the Zumzum water nonsense, etc. So hislam is clearly a pagan cult.
The nonsense about Abraham was a throw-in by Mahound to try and get the Jews of Medina to join his cult but they wouldn't have a bar of it. If you read the hadiths, the story changes several times. So its clear Mahound didn't really know the real history. Just grabbed what he could glean from the Jews and Christians and fabricated things to suit his own agenda.
The best analysis of the Abraham lies I've found can be read here –
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_04_D…
Gary, what a reading on the link you gave! It´s religious comic, nothing else. I am trying to read it with a benevolent interpretation of Muhammad's drivel, but it doesn´t work. I just start to laugh! But the part that the Bibles Sara initiated FGM because of Hagar made me feel sick and suddenly nothing was amusing anymore.
I just wonder why you dont have a blog of your own, Gary, you have so much interesting to tell about and I just grab your links to my blog too and write about them. Txh! But I of course appreciate your comments here. Don´t stop posting them!:)
Not only the Protestants, but all Christian leaders in the US should come together and agree on a common response to hislam. Its clear Revd. Graham and others know what they are talking about. They should all meet and iron out their response and then stick to it, get the message across to their respective congregations. Once they achieve that, the majority of Americans will know and understand the threat they are up against.
Whilst expensive, producing documentaries for TV consumption should also be looked at. I recall a few years ago seeing one on TV that put hislam in a positive light. All the talking heads saying how great it was. No mention that the expansion was due to wars of aggression. No mention of the slaving, no mention of the deaths, no mention of jizya, etc. That sort of misinformation needs to be countered.
I respect Graham for what he said and the fact that he has not backed down from this. It's good to know that the majority of other protestant ministers believe the same. Our country depends on this.
Who me? I suspect it would take too much effort. Besides it wouldn't leave me time to post messages elsewhere. Not sure how long such a blog would last either. If I don't restrain myself, like I try to do here, it would get pulled faster than you could click on its URL! 🙂
William Gheen from Alipac said something the other day at a rally – it was about the open borders, but it's still relevant – that the good graces of God loving Americans have been exploited far too long.
At some point you have to call a spade a spade – and a murdering, psychotic, genocidal, fanatic belief system that subjugates its human chattel, forces them to pray like a hamster in heat, dresses its women in potato sacks, and worships its leaders in total servitude, needs to be called, well, how about a murdering, psychotic, genocidal, fanatic belief system that subjugates its human chattel, forces them to pray like a hamster in heat, dresses its women in potato sacks, and worships its leaders in total servitude?
I'm totally against slaughtering them over a pack of lies – Bush Jr. had an oil company with Bin Laden's brother, for crying out loud! Another Bin Laden relative ran security at the towers in the months before 9/11, and their contract expired Sept 10th!! Osama Bin Laden himself is a CIA asset named Tim Osman – it is all such a vile fraud – but I just think they should stay in the Middle East until they work out their homicidal world domination issues.
Bring the troops home – if they ever get close to having a nuke there, the whole region will be a giant salad bowl before lunch.
I'm not familiar with William Gheen nor Alipac. Can you provide a link? Sounds like he knows what he's talking about, even though its a mouthful. I'm currently calling it hislam, after taking a leaf from feminists with their concept of herstory.