Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated ‘Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Acccording to the Koran, Mohammad’s actions are to be followed for all times.
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YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
Islam should of never been allowed to be practiced in Western Civilization in the first place.
Hat tip to JR.
Yemen women oppose proposed child marriage ban
Sun Mar 21SANAA (AFP) – Thousands of Yemeni women, their faces covered in religious veils, demonstrated outside the parliament on Sunday to oppose proposed legislation banning the marriage of girls under 17.
The protesters held up banners proclaiming “don’t ban what Allah made permissible,” or “stop violating Islamic sharia law in the name of rights and freedoms,” an AFP correspondent said.
Answering calls by Muslim clerics who oppose the proposal on grounds it goes against Islamic sharia law, the protesters arrived in organised buses.
Proposed amendments to the civil status law stalled in parliament last August after severe opposition to a government proposal that would ban girls females 17 and males under 18 from marrying.
Child marriages are common in impoverished Yemen, especially in rural areas, where girls as young as eight are known to have been married off by desperately poor parents.
Last year a child marriage case in Yemen made international headlines after a 12-year-old girl died in childbirth, together with the baby.
“Where will this… new law take us?” asked Umm Abdulaziz, a protester clad in black from head-to-toe.
“Most rights groups have women who are over 40 and still not married,” she added in an apparent taunt at unmarried activists in Yemen, whose largely traditional tribal society looks down on single women past a certain age.
“There is a significant spinstership among female students in Yemen universities,” she added.
A handful of women’s rights activists outside the parliament were seen leaving after being outnumbered by the demonstrators.
“It is unreasonable to marry our daughters at the age of eight or nine. This is a serious problem,” said Houriya Mashhour, deputy director of Yemen’s Women National Committee.
A delegation from the protesters met MP Sheikh Humaid al-Ahmar, the deputy speaker of the parliament, along with several Islamist MPs from Al-Islah, a powerful opposition party leading the campaign against the proposed amendments.
“We consider those who call for limiting marriage age by law as enemies of Allah, his prophet and us,” said one of the women delegates.
There is no help for women with that kind of mindset. Brainwashed from day one to blindly follow this cult…
X-Rated Pornography in the Bible:
(a)- She wished if he were her brother so that she wouldn’t have to take him home in secret!
Some Jews and Christians claim that the praised graphical pornography in the Bible is actually a conversation between a husband and his wife. They know well that claiming otherwise would bring total shame to the gospel of porn, because of the (literally) x-rated and low-life graphical pornography. There is ample evidence that proves their claim to be bogus and desperate. Let us look at this example from the many below:
Song of Songs 8:1-3 “If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother’s breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother’s house– she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina’s semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me.”
She wished if he were her brother so that she wouldn’t have to take him home in secret. Now if he were truly her husband, then what would prompt her to wish that he was her brother? Were husbands back then not allowed to live with their wives? If so, how did they then consummate and have children and raise generations and societies? Were they allowed to live with each others for a while?
The obvious answer is that they were not a husband and a wife. And still, let us assume for the sake of the desperate and ridiculous argument that they were a husband and a wife, then what about her wishes about him being her brother?! What about this pornography? Are we now going to also argue that it’s ok for the sister to sexually fantasize about her brother, and to make inappropriate references about him like this?!
Furthermore, according to “Sex in the Bible” documentary film, which hosted many renowned Bible-theologians and Ph.D. professors, the two were “a maiden (virgin) and her lover” and not husband and wife. Listen to this for yourself.
“maiden” means virgin; an unmarried woman; a single girl, etc…
It is shameful that Muslims have no shame. Whatever they read Mohammed did must be right! How can we explain this person defending Mohammed's child abuse of sleeping with and 8 year old girl by quoting Song of Solomon in the Bible? Is Song of Solomon a book of child of abuse? It is a love poem. God created physical love to be expressed and celebrated – but in a decent way, not sleping with a child, and adultery. It is strange that this man has to be reading his perverse meaning to the wine of the Song of Solomon as secretion from vagina! It shows your warped mind.
This is another ploy arselifters are trying. They take stories about specific events from the Bible and apply them in the same sense as the kooky koran. You'd also need to check their quotes because they have a habit of distorting or fabricating things to suit their agenda.
Here's a rebuttal I found online –
http://www.pi-news.org/2010/03/comparisons-with-j…
And, an ex-muzzie tells the truth about pislam –
http://www.pi-news.org/2010/03/islam-is-the-great…
The Bible is made up of stories for those times, and Christians are not on a worldwide movement, looking to subjugate all under a barbaric set of religious laws. Muslims are.
I have no problem with the fact that Mary was 13 years old and Joseph was 80 when that Holy Ghost made Mary preggers. Becuase I am a CHRISTIAN !!
Right, you are a Christian who supports Sharia, which calls for the domination of Christians. Now you try and make it like Christians should support child marriages today. Seek help.
Nor should they be allowed to come here with that kind of mentality.
Oh, absolutely not!!! They should stay exactly where they are and not bother us with it.
YES. They come and live in welfare;food stamps; and all social services Obama is handing out. I start to think Obama is the beast mark???
I dont know why you thinking all people are the same most of the yemenis in the US are working hard to get money for there hol family for exmple my cousin works 14 h every day 6 days a week feet his big family what means his wife,child,father+mother ,3 sisters 2 brothers +aunt+5 childrens.I have more than 150 family mebers working in US and no one works less an 12h a day.
The other thing is I have a family in Yemen which has over 1500 mebers and no one of them gives his dauther under minim age of 17 years most are over 18.
So not all people are the same.
Thanx to obama .
I think in the US you will find much more Teenager that hat sex and maby have child with 14 ore 15 as in hole yemen.
There's a video of this at Vlad Tepes blog –
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=20867
I was mostly surprised that the cattle where allowed to protest at all. What are they doing outside their homes?
Being herded by the men surrounding them.
Well good for these idiots. Stupid is as stupid does and these are as stupid as the Kenyan pretending to be the U.S. President.
The International Centre for Research on Women estimates there are 51 Million child brides in the world; most are in islamic countries. That number is expected to rise to 100 Million within a decade. Muslims say they wait until a girl has her first menses before raping her but if a girl hasn't had a period, the waiting period is 3 months.
Surah 65:4 – "And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be 3 months"
Muslims swear they'll outbreed everyone. But when pre-pubescent girls are raped, many suffer damaged internal organs and are rendered sterile. Mohammed's 9 year old wife Aisha was barren. Of those who become pregnant, many die in childbirth. Babies weren't meant to give birth.
We can't help these girls. They, their parents and their rapists were brainwashed to believe that emulating Mohammed is good. Though these child brides are a tragedy to us, they are also a gift. Far from using their "women's" wombs to take over the world, muslims are actually lowering their population through the rape of children.
And that's a GOOD thing.
Aisha might have been barren but we don't know as Mahound forbade all his wives to remarry after his death.
But its interesting to note that of all his wives, only one ever conceived and the child died by age 2. So its more likely the Mahound himself was sterile.
Aisha’s parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:
People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. See the following examples: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7], etc…
It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into “women”, then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.
That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.
Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
All your takiya aside, what say did Aisha have in it? Can you explain why, when she was told that she was to marry Mahound the pedo at age 6, she got sick and all her hair fell out?
Can you explain what would cause that to happen in a child?
Her parents were as sick as Mohammad was, and Mohammad's actions are to be followed for all times. That is pedophilia. If you had a daughter would you marry her off, at 6 years old?
There's an interesting comment to this article I'd like to draw everyone's attention to –
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/tarek-fatah-cal…
Look at the second comment (by tanstaafl). It compares pislam and mormonism and notes some similarities.
I don't know very much about Joseph Smith. Most of what I learnt about him was from the satire on the show South Park. But this Wiki entry contains enough detail –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith,_Jr.
I've some curiosity about Mahound's psychological profile. It occurs to me that both he and Joseph Smith must share similar psychological traits. Smith being a failed version of Mahound. Narcissism being a primary trait.
one has to read a passage twice to believe what has been written in the Sacred Books of Judaism: what has been decreed the way to a holy life by the “sages of blessed memory… whose words are the natural sounds of Judaism” [131]:
Said Rabbi Joseph, “Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. And if a Levir has had intercourse with her, he has acquired her. And one can be liable on her account because of the law prohibiting intercourse with a married woman. And she imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse with her when she is menstruating, to convey uncleanness to the lower as to the upper layer [of what lies beneath]. If she was married to a priest, she may eat food in the status of priestly rations. If one of those who are unfit for marriage with her had intercourse with her, he has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If any of those who are forbidden in the Torah to have intercourse with her had intercourse with her, he is put to death on her account, but she is free of responsibility [M.Nid. 5:4].
Sanhedrin 7/55B [132]
R. Nahman bar Isaac said. “They made the decree that a gentile child should be deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15], so that an Israelite child should not hang around with him and commit pederasty [as he does].”
For said R. Zira, “I had much anguish with R. Assi, and R. Assi with R. Yohanan, and R. Yohanan with R. Yannai, and R. Yannai with R. Nathan b. Amram, and R. Nathan b. Amram with Rabbi [on this matter]: ‘From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]’? And he said to me, ‘On the day on which he is born.’ But when I came to R. Hiyya, he said to me, ‘From the age of nine years and one day.’ And when I came and laid the matter before Rabbi, he said to me, ‘Discard my reply and adopt that of R. Hiyya, who declared, “From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]? From the age of nine years and one day.”‘
[37A] Since he is then suitable for having sexual relations, he also is deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [of Lev.15].”
Said Rabina, “Therefore a gentile girl who is three years and one day old, since she is then suitable to have sexual relations, also imparts uncleanness of the flux variety.”
That is self-evident!
Abodah Zarah 36B-37A [133]
If you look at it a certain way: child brides are VERY lucky!
http://www.youtube.com/user/GlendaBeckk
Not really very funny but I'd give it a 6 for effort.
Ok, some of the things I hate when child bride conversation comes up is:
1) Modern times vs ancient history.
Sure children used to marry young because humans didn't survive as long as we do today. Fine, we get it. We understand Muslims, Jews, Christians, and pagans, non-believers, etc. used to marry very young. But that's how many years ago? Today, we are able to live longer and healthier lives. We understand the human body better. We understand that a young girl's body isn't the same as a woman's body. So why are child brides still going on today?
2) The Bible/Torah (Christians/Jews) vs. the Quran (Muslims)
The difference between the Christians/Jews and Muslims is that Christians/Jews understand that their books were written for a particular time period and that it may need some adjustments as we humans understand more about the world around us. Slavery, witch burning, stoning, etc are in the Bible but humans understand those things are no longer acceptable in our society. It's time that Muslims get on the ball and understand that even though it was acceptable for children to get married in ancient times, it's no longer acceptable or needed our time. By ancient standards what Mohammad did was right however by our standard today it would be considered pedophilia.
We can see it in the US with teen pregnancy. It just doesn't work. The stress, lack of college education, fathers who don't want to own up to the responsibility, single teen mothers, etc. hurts not only the teen but society as well (like the use of welfare, food stamps, WIC, etc.).
Third world countries are the way they are now because young girls get pregnant really young which means little to no chance of education (or a college education) and more children. Which means the daughters need to be kicked out the house (meaning married off ASAP) so to lessen the burdens of the parents (things like money, housing, feeding, clothing, the girl will no longer be the parent's business but her husband's). And the cycle continues. I truly doubt that the Arabs will become extinct anytime soon if one whole generation of girls are allowed to get a college education first and marry/have children at a later age. In fact, it would raise their society up. When societies stopped treating their women badly (or as cows for reproduction use only), their society benefited from it. Educated moms mean educated children (I'm saying "moms" because in many Arab societies, it's the women who are with the children the majority of the time).
It's time to wake up and join the modern world.
Oh, yeah, I am a Muslim woman.
And here's some recent news for you to consider –
http://www.news.com.au/world/yemeni-child-bride-d…
Christopher have you ever lived for any extended period of time in a country that has sharia law? I have. Perhaps you might consider moving there for say 3-6 months to really get a feel for it
So you are in support of laws that dominate non-Muslims and women, and call for the death of apostates and homosexuals. What a guy you are. If Sharia takes hold in America, I am sure your families future generations will be so thankfully towards you.
Honestly, it surprises me how ignorant you are. You’re writing an article, and I suppose as a reporter, you should check your facts. First of all, how would anyone know when their marriage was consummated? 1500 years ago it was shameful to even speak of such things, so that’s obvious guesswork.
However, that’s not even my main point. I’m well aware we live in 21st century. In today’s society, it is perfectly acceptable for a 16 year old to be pregnant and have children with her boyfriend. The same could not be said for the 19th century. In the 19th century, which is not so long ago, women were married at the age of 16 or 17, at the youngest.
Now, imagine 1500. I do believe they lived in a different society, where other things were acceptable. 1500 people did not have children with their boyfriends. Women married at a young age to older men. It was perfectly acceptable to be married at the age of nine.
In this day and age, it is not. A nine year old cannot get married. And I agree with this view, I do.
And as a young Muslim girl (I am not oppressed, or brainwashed – very shocking, I know. Isn’t it funny how whenever a Muslim woman supports Islam she is immediately not in her right mind, or being forced?) I feel insulted by some of your comments. Who is a person to pass judgment on another person? Especially when there has been minimal research invested in the topic. How many of you can honestly tell me you’ve read many books on Islam (not any books, but actual scholar’s writing that is authentic) and drew to this conclusion? Or did you follow everything the media says blindly.
As for this law on child marriage, I agree. Most child marriages are forced marriages (not even arranged) and no child should have to go through that.
And, I’d like to say that you should keep your opinions to yourself if you cannot convey them in a respectful manner instead of insulting others, and you’ll find the same courtesy will be extended to you.
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Here is a point worth addressing.
First of all, the people writing here have various ways of identifying themselves and perspectives that arise out of those identities.
We are not merely “persons.”
A Christian will judge your religion, your doctrine, your practice and your prophet.
He or she will do so on the basis of Matthew, Chapter 7, which is the doctrinal basis for judging prophets to be false or true. There are several other scriptural imperatives for the Christian to look and judge when assessing other prophets and religions.
The Christian has every right, and even an obligation to do this.
And however that is, there is a saying in the counterjihad movement–
Don’t judge the Muslims you know by the standards of Islamic doctrine and scripture, and don’t judge Islam by the Muslims you know.
Islam is not my religion, it’s yours.
As such, I do not fear you as an other, even though you are certainly an other, an outsider to Western civilization and traditions.
What concerns me is the Muslim, perhaps you, as conqueror, colonist, and parasite, the Muslim as someone who wishes to displace and destroy Western history, philosophy (very un-Quranic) and tradition (very individualistic).
What concerns me is the Egyptian demanding JIZYAH of the United States this very day.
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you’ll find the same courtesy will be extended to you.
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I will not submit.
Will you extend me the courtesy of remaining alive, or will you respect my rights to not submit?
It does surprise that you come here and claimed I am ignorant, while offering no proof whatsoever. That does not fly here.
It is not guesswork, as the Sahih Bukhari provides the information.
https://loganswarning.com/2010/08/24/questions-for-the-muslims-who-read-this-site/
When Sahih is placed in front of your name, let me know.
Muslims are openly trying to take over America, and the country you are posting from. If you think I am going to stop speaking out against Islam because you are “offended”, you are greatly mistaken.
I have approximately 10 years on this issue, and I just backed up my statement on this issue from the authentic ahadith. So there goes your media claim.
What the Sahih Ahadith state is not my “opinion”, and I will not respect Islam. If you do not like what you read here, do not come here. It is that simple.
BTW, Koran verse 33:21 states Muslims should follow the actions of Mohammad for all times. Islam allows child marriages TODAY.
Thanks!