We must respect Muslim rights if we want Islamic countries to respect our rights, warns French Catholic Church as it speaks against burka ban
01st February 2010The French Catholic Church warned Paris today against banning Muslim full-face veils. It said France must respect the rights of its Muslims if it wanted Islamic countries to do the same for their Christian minorities.
Bishop Michel Santier, the top French Catholic official for inter-religious dialogue, said very few women in France wore full veils and Muslim leaders agreed it was not obligatory in Islam.
A parliamentary commission last week urged the National Assembly to pass a non-binding resolution condemning full veils and then work out a law banning them.
Deputies say a total ban may not be legal but certain limits could be approved.
If Paris passed a law, Santier said, ‘the result could be the opposite of what is desired and lead to a reaction that increases the number of women wearing this garment.
‘The French, including the Catholics among them, should not let themselves be gripped by fear or a “clash of civilisations” theory,’ he said in a statement calling for distinctions between the majority of peaceful Muslims and a minority of radicals.
‘If we want Christian minorities in Muslim majority countries to enjoy all their rights, we should in our country respect the rights of all believers to practice their faith.
‘A dialogue in truth among believers will help us go beyond mutual mistrust. The path will be long and hard,’ he said.
The Vatican has long pointed to the rights of Muslim minorities in Western countries when pressing Muslim countries to allow more religious freedoms for Christian minorities there.
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French police say about 1,900 women wear the full veils, known as burqas although almost all are Arab-style niqabs showing the eyes.
What the Vatican is doing is not working as things are getting worse for Christians in the Middle East, and Islam continues to advance across the West.
The catholics aren't historically notorious for getting things right so these political contortions of theirs is not overly surprising.
There's not a single Protestant Leader with a spine left in Europe either. At least they did not call for implementing Sharia like the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Christopher,
Christians in Europe are facing a double attack. Yes, I agree Islam is dangerous, but so is militant secularism that wants to ban Christianity. The ban on burqas also affects other religions, because they want a ban on all religious symbols, including crosses etc. Unlike the US, the EU does not stay out of Christian schools, and wants to legislate what they must do etc.
Bullies are bullies, whether Muslim or otherwise. Pope Benedict is working to re-unite Christendom, the work with Anglo- Catholics in the C of E has paid off, now talks continue with Eastern Orthodox Churches, the ones that have long suffered under Islam. It was the West, that decided to give Muslims Kosovo, the home of the Serbian Orthodox Church, whose leader still claims belongs to them.
I agree. Muz should shut up and get out of my way when I walk down the street. They should keep those ugly black tents to home. They should demolish those funny dick-looking building where the skreeching for their prayers come from and they should, for God's sake, knock off that crazed caterwalling from speakers five times a day. As a matter of fact, they have the right to get the f*** out of every western country they have infested, and they should excercise that right real soon.
Take a look at the massive campaign of attacks on Chrisitians in the Islamic world listed under CHRISTIANS at http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/everything-…
Nice site, keep up the good work!
Christian minorities in Islamic States have no rights – maybe a few for now, but this will not last. Interfaith dialogue is one of the most useless things… it plays into the hands of groups like CAIR who love to sit and teach Christians how we have it all wrong. Deception and lies, while Christians want everyone to like them. Early Christians were hated, Jesus himself was hated and ridiculed in his life because his teaching was so radical and offensive. The church no longer resembles that early church. This must break God's heart. And it is a dangerous road for our future. Who will defend Christianity and the Western Civilization that it built if not the Christians?
Since women's attire specifications are NOT mandated in the Qu'Ran itself, any restrictions imposed merely by certain tribal traditions and cultures in the Islamic world are therefore not divinely decreed as mandatory for any or all Islamic women.
Thus, the hijab and its use is at best likened to a familial tradition, and at worst to clan propaganda.
The hijab is not 'The Women's Uniform of Islam' (!)
Muslims are really atheists; they believe this world is a mistake or dirty trick; and their ideal of god is still only that of the "Jealous" pain-master; they are thus Errorists: "We are all God's mistakes but we're better mistakes than you are, so there! Poor, poor us! (You should Die)!"
Sound about right?
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They look at their own imperfections and say, "Why, this, – this whole world is a mistake! This isn't real! We all feel pain and die?! No way! I want out, now! And – so do you, if you have any brains! Follow me to death and the real world beyond this one! Don't be nice or help anyone here; they are errors too (but not really me) so they must deserve it!"
That's islamic "logic," alright!
Its only the jealous fear of pain being controlled by Some Other (allah).
The Jews say: God is the ('righteous' static; safe idol of the) Fear of Pain, and the ('greedy' dynamic; dangerous spirit of the) Hope of No Pain!
The christians say: God is Love-With-Us as the only hope of no pain.
The Muslims say: God is the only Pain; and we are only his fears.
We must fear the god of Pain, for otherwise He will destroy us. If you refuse to fear our god of Pain, then we must convert, pacify (enslave; 'protect' ourselves from dirty) you, or kill you, lest He kill us in his wrath that we let you live without at least fearing us in His name!
They are mistaken.
La ilaha il Alam; Muhammad rasul Alam.
(Alam = Pain, in Arabic).
Al lah = (literally): The NO.
(Also allah's "other name" is ar-RAMman and/or of course also: Ahriman, the Persian's Devil)…
Muslims are only fatalists & pessimists, who Submit to the shallow inevitable of material pains, fears of pains, and hope for death to end allah the pains.
Muhammad said:
"Kill yourselves for me by killing my enemies for me here, live in dirt and ruins, subjugate and parasite off others work, force your women to wear funeral shrouds because Muhammad found erections humiliating, saw women's power of attraction as an attack-first threat to his sacred mosque-puppet(s) and of course leave me 20% of all your slaves, women, children, and possessions when you go!
One of coward Muhammad's most famous Qur'anic quotes is this:
"For pain is worse than death!"
Well, that explains it! Muhammad was so much more attracted to death than to women, that he forced his female cult-slaves to wear their own funeral shrouds ('burqas')!
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"We must respect Muslim rights if we want Islamic countries to respect our rights, warns French Catholic Church as it speaks against burka ban"
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That's just the point, muslim countries DON'T respect the rights of his religion and all other non-muslims and they weren't respecting those rights long before any ban on the burka was ever considered. And allowing burkas and other muslim customs will not make muslims respect us more but instead be perceived as western weakness which makes muslims more belligerent towards us, not less. This church isn't getting it that its precisely too much tolerance over many years which has led to the problems the west is having with muslims today.
Letting Islam advance in the West, while Muslims limit the freedom of other religions in Islamic countries, is nothing more than a slow suicide.
The French Catholic Church need a reality-check, a major one!
It is about time you show your face around here. 🙂
Respect the rights of Muslims to do what?
TO DO WHAT?
Honor killing, perhaps?
Conquest of the infidel?
Their “right” to desecrate churches as they have in Avignon?
I’ve heard of the desecrations, the humiliation . . . is this your answer?
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‘If we want Christian minorities in Muslim majority countries to enjoy all their rights, we should in our country respect the rights of all believers to practice their faith.
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The practice of Islam is the humiliation of the infidel.
The objective of Islam is conquest.
You have decided to yield to the devil.
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