Back in June of 2011 I posted a story entitled “The Strangest Thing Happened to me, an Encounter With a Christian Woman”. It was about a Christian woman I had encountered on a NY bus. She was preaching about Jesus and how Americans had moved away from Christianity. How our country needed to stick to its Judeo-Christian values. The strange thing about it was that she closed by looking at me and stating, “You’re different. You are my messenger!”.
Now I am still not religious, but I do find this all very interesting and wanted to share this update with my religious friends. Since then I have seen her two more times. The first time was probably about seven months ago, and there was nothing to it at all. There was no real eye contact and she did not say a word to me. But just a few days ago I saw her for the third time. I was on a NY bus again, and she was in the back on the upper level. She was wearing a loose fitting long white dress, with a loosely wrapped headscarf on, and holding a teddybear in one hand. Also the cross drawn on her forehead was a bit larger then in our first meeting. Yes, I said she was strange! Strange but friendly, and was preaching for Jesus once again.
This time there were only about a dozen passengers on the bus, and I did not even see one person paying attention to her. In fact, one started laughing and mocking her when she got off the bus. After a couple of minutes she rose from her seat and walked to the top step of the back section of the bus. I continued to watch her, and all of a sudden she stared at me as her eyes widened and said “(we?) pray for those who use the devil to murder. They (with a little nod, implying the other passengers on the bus) do not know, but we do.” Then the bus made it’s next stop which was in front of a Church, and she exited. As she approached the Church she saw a groundskeeper, and either hugged him or just put her arm around him. It was hard to exactly tell as the bus began to pull away. Like I said, I though it was interesting. Interesting but strange.
Back in June 2011 as mentioned I read this story about this strange encounter. The scriptures are abundant with strange encounters. God will use people whom He chooses, as He knows who is willing and able to further His cause. Saul, later Apostel Paul was an unwilling subject, however God knew that he would be willing an able. I am touched by that story, as God works in mysterious ways.
Thanks for sticking around Jaeger. 🙂
You lost me as soon as you said she had a cross drawn on her forehead. I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell what this crazy woman had to say once I saw a cross drawn on her forehead!
Islam is not a religion, it’s a totalitarian political ideology disguised as a religion. Therefore, religion is NOT the answer to islam. To even compare islam to other religions is to give it more credit than it is due. As Geert Wilders said “Islam is not a religion, but a dangerous, totalitarian ideology — equal to communism and fascism.”
I would bet that anyone who pays her the least bit of attention receives the closing statement “You’re different. You are my messenger!” Unless the teddy bear was named “mohammed,” I fail to see the connection to islam. BUT hell man, this is your site and you can place whatever you like on it. I don’t think you even need to venture into the dangerous arena of comparative religion to oppose islam and the islamification of Western Civilization.
I welcome the help of anti-islam Christians like Terry Jones in the struggle against islam…BUT I am not part of the campaign to Christianize the world and never will be. As an Atheist Jew, I am well aware that many Christians would be as happy as many moslems to see me die a slow agonizing painful death.
NFSE!
David Pax
http://infidelsunited.com
I was not trying to get you, that is why I said it was for my religious friends, and nowhere in the article did I say other religion is the answer. But since you bring it up, I would rather have Muslims leave Islam for other religions than stay a Muslim. I said it was for my religious friends because I know plenty of Christians who liked the first article. Besides that, without a large Christian backing there is no shot that America wins this war. I also did not hear her say that to anyone else the first time around. You are getting worked up over nothing and seem to be threatened by Christianity. Even though Christians are not on a worldwide campaign threatening to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all. I was just sharing what happened.
David Pax the Atheist Jew
i am a muslim and i support Geert Wilders because i want western people to became fasciest so they can f**k themselves like they did in secound white world war
secound white’s world war was necissary to free third world people from western whites superamist power because of hitler bombing of europe today india and china will became super power and end western supermacy, so what hitler did was necissary to foward human progress
please read my blog it about jew like you lol
http://hfghj23458654fgha.xanga.com/
here is another one
911 was necissary for to remove dictator saddam hussain
removing dictator saddam hussain was necissary to removing ALL DICTATORS in muslims’s countries,
removing ALL dictators in muslims’s countries was necissary to improving education and economic
improving education and economic is necissary to stop invader killing us
god works mysterious way
Hi David Pax,
As as Christian,, I would be interested in hearing the specific events that have caused you to think “many Christians would be as happy as many moslems to see me die a slow agonizing painful death”. THANKS!!!
Damon Whitsell
christians and jews united TODAY because of islam/muslims
but this unity will not last when christians start take their CROSS on street under banner of fighting islam
Why would that be the case, unless one side or the other is as intolerant and as supremacist as Islam.
Christians darn well better start doing SOMETHING because the only thing most are doing presently is saying they have the same god as Islam – very dumb.
Kope,, from what do you draw your conclusion? Sounds like your full of biased presumption to me.
It is not the goeal to rise the Christian or Judaist religious fanaticism, allthough those religions ar not agressive in its dogma,as Islam is…The goal is to defeat the mujahidins as a Civilized,rationable reactionists. This modern era offers us the perception of our religions as a beatifull,charmful traditions…the other way around we may see conflicts within again,just like the 40 year war between chatolics and protestants,which is non sence.
Damon, please watch a snippet of this video from Darkmatter2525: The Real God, An Epiphany. I have it cued to the screenshots
http://youtu.be/-j8ZMMuu7MU?t=4m59s
In there you can see a ton of screenshots of Christians fantasizing about killing Atheists in online forums.
Peace! (the REAL kind, not the islamic kind)
David Pax
http://infidelsunited.com
You sure frequent weird websites. I’m retired and surf websites (including Christian ones) several hours a day and haven’t experienced the crap that you are apparently dwelling on.
Honestly, you can find any perversion your little cottin’ pickin’ heart desires on the web. You know that. I’m almost positive there are even MORE websites by atheists who claim they would like to do in Christians in ways that would make ol’ Jeff Dahmer blush.
David,, let me start by saying that I am a non-active member of your site that is glad that I did not have time to become active and contribute.
I am 46 and became a Christian over 20 yeas ago. While not joining a church until a few years ago I have always been very active among the Christian community as a cult apologist because my uncle is a Mormon bishop. I started online ministry in 98 and have been doing so full time since 2000. In that time I have met thousands and thousands of Christians,, joined and participated on dozens of Christian forums and have started a few of them myself. I am online about 14 hours a day,, much of that is interaction with Christians and do you know how many times I have heard a Christian call for the death of atheist????? NOT ONCE!!!!!!
Firstly Dave, your clip is not a first hand account of bigotry towards atheist. This did not happen to you. So why in your mind does this threaten you? Explain how this means that Christians in general and Christianity is a threat to you?
The video gives no link or even the name of the site this was harvested from and it is not linked to any Christian group. So how does this represent Christians or Christianity?
Let me show you a few things.
Here non-religious leftist call for the deaths of Romney and Ryan. And that those on the Christian right should kill themselves.
http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-picks-paul-ryan-for-vp-liberals-send-death-wishes-hate-on-twitter
And here you have non-religious leftist calling for civil war against the religious right.
http://www.examiner.com/article/do-liberals-really-want-a-second-civil-war-america
Your characterization that your link shows Christians “fantasizing” about killing atheist if BS. Since you where not there to witness it,, you cannot know for sure that the post shown in the video are not reciprocating post responding to atheist that may have raided the forum with their own threats and hostility. So exactly how do you come to your conclusion that this clip prove “MANY” Christians would like to see you die a bad death?
I look at my links above and realize these are extreme non-religious leftist and does not constitute MANY. It is not reflective of non-religious leftist as a whole or that MANY believe others should die and the nation should go to civil war.
So it is clear to me that your biased and bigoted for you to stretch this to mean MANY Christians would like to see you die.
But lets get around your biased preconceptions by you proving that Christians have a scriptural mandate to fight and kill non-Christians,, or even to fantasize about your death?
When I first started counter-jihading,, I focused on waking Christians up. But the last half of my stint has focused on working with and waking non-Christians up.
What are your personal feelings about working with Christians against Islam?
Chris all I can say is that God uses the weak and feeble things in this world to confound the wise. He doesn’t like islam any more than you do. He gives power to those who believe. Consider reading the New Testament straight thru with the one prayer that God show you Himself. Now as I type this there is no cross on my forehead nor am I anything but a normal protestant believer. But I do believe in all that Jesus said and that the Gospel He left is for any of us to believe in and follow. Accepting Jesus when I was just 8 years old was the best decision I ever made. And I was never in doubt that He had called me to the alter for salvation and Baptism shortly after. What better power to fight islam that with the one faith that it despises more than Judaism. God Bless you Chris.
I found that interesting.
In the UK there are people who are urging others to wear crosses,ie earrings, badges,pendants etc because Islam is being stamped on the people by symbols like the jihadist colour and flag, black.
Muslims don’t like us to fight back and hate our symbols.They want to destroy our culture and history to make it easier to take over. The woman on the bus is helping our cause whether she knows it or not as she is getting ‘up the nose’ of Muslims on a daily basis. LOL.
The jihad & counter-jihad are peculiar because they have the elements of symbolism and tradition. No amount of rationalizing is going to rid this struggle of its traditional and symbolic elements– it’s just the way our adversaries think. We must humiliate them on their own ground.
Atheists are weak in that they can only address the effects of Islam, they have no platform for asserting that Islam is profane, no way of calling it what it is– evil idolatry and superstitious magic.
Those who have “strayed into the area of comparative religion” have this platform, and they are fools if they don’t use it.
By all means, buy patches with the Cross of St. George or St. Michael fighting in the name of Christ and sew them onto the shoulders of your coats, distribute tracts, pray often, and read the scriptures, doctrines and theologians.
Don’t dumn down the faith to just the words and deeds of Jesus– Christianity is much richer and broader than that.
And above all, look critically at modernism and ecumenism– know what your tradition is and keep it.
While Muslims fear and hate Christians and Christianity, they absolutely dread the Christian who knows doctrine differences with Islam cold.
So know them, speak them, and don’t let anyone think you are anything other than what you are.
If multiculturalism and radical tolerance are your articles of faith, if you really think democracy is a shared value, you were behind the ball thirty years ago and you still are.
Are you from UK, emmi? If so, howabout the pagan faiths, are they also oppressed? After all you have Stonehenge and such ancient sites so I know there are followers of pre-christian faiths as well.
Robin, I am from the UK. I’ve seen no evidence of pagans being oppressed and I would imagine it’s because Muslims haven’t identified them with their symbols yet, same as Goths. They select Christians and Jews for attacks because they believe their religions are causing all the trouble in the world and they have the most goods and property to plunder. The PC brigade try to ban crosses in the workplace and in one case, a palm leaf cross from the dashboard of a delivery van. Pagans use very little of the earth’s resources; they are mainly vegetarian and bury their dead in sheets, wicker or cardboard boxes, so they don’t really attract the publicity that fires the Muslims into being ‘offended’ by them. Sorry if you already know this and if I haven’t give a satisfactory answer. Please specify what else I can add.
Sounds like God is speaking to you through His messengers, Chris, right on! I’ve had three memorable encounters in my life, and this woman seems to know something about you. Keep your heart open, my friend, Jesus is known to perform miracles!
Luchadora, I did enjoy your optimistic post
“The Lord works in mysterious ways”….I’m sure you heard that before. Native Americans pay attention to “Dreamers” and those “touched” by the spirits….and signals from God himself that are all around us. If I were you, I’d dang well PAY ATTENTION…. The woman of whom you speak may be bat-shit crazy, but there is a message. You work to counter islam…the most repressive force the world has ever seen…and if it ain’t EVIL, then nothing is. You can call islam evil, work of the devil, Satan’s child or whatever…..the fact is piles and piles of dead bodies and violence somewhere in the name of islam on a daily basis doesn’t lie…..it’s evil. What God is saying is “Don’t stop!”…obviously, fighting against the evil of islam is your “calling”. Don’t ignore it.
Tonto, great comments. I agree with you. Although I don’t believe in a god as a person, I think the Native Americans got it right. I also believe that there is a fine line between being psychic and madness. Some psychics may appear to be eccentric or mad because they cannot filter the words swamping them. The woman on the bus might seem eccentric, but something moved her to select one of the many messages that would crowd her mind and hive it to the right person.
I can’t say for sure whether that woman is a true Christian or a Christian in name only. I also cannot say that she actually is a true prophet (I doubt that). She definitely sounds extreme, to say the least. But in any case, Christopher, you are definitely bringing an important message to many people, and you are doing a great job of informing many people. Please keep up the good work!
Regarding David Pax’s comment that, “As an Atheist Jew, I am well aware that many Christians would be as happy as many moslems to see me die a slow agonizing painful death,” I am a born-again Christian, and I would never desire to see him die a slow, agonizing, painful death, nor any other kind of death. Instead, I would wish him only the best!
Jeff Jenkins
your love for jews based on hates for muslims
My hatred for arselifters is based on pislam. 😀
then why you white christians put jews in gas chamber because of old testment?
Actually, white Muslims put Jews in gas chambers too.
There were Muslim units in the waffen SS.
muslims are not whites not blacks or browns but christians whites nazis crimenals
Nazis were not following the examples of Jesus. Islam is what is comparable to Nazism. Now condemn Islam….
https://loganswarning.com/2011/03/15/islam-nazism-the-ideologies-of-hate/
Do you really think pointing at Nazism is going to get me to excuse what Muslims are doing today? Is that the best you can do?
And you koranderthals are eidiots!!
There are many white Muslims.
They all worship profanely, they are all enemies of the West.
I’m not christian. I’m an agnostic and I don’t follow any prescribed faith whatsoever. I prefer to call myself spiritual. I believe, however, in reincarnation but I don’t belong either to buddhism or hinduism or even new age for that matter. I’m just a free spirit in this universe roaming around minding my own business.
I call myself agnostic simply because I don’t know, can’t know if there is a god or not. And for me it is not important anyway. I simply have no need for a “creator”. My spirit, soul or whatever you want to call it, is energy. Energy is indestructable and therefore eternal.
You’re a fool to believe in a simple faith as pislam with either an eternal bordello in the sky or eternal punishments. There is no punishments but of your own making. So you will wind up with likeminded spirits like yourself in the lower astral realms after you die. It’s not eternal. You will stay there only as long as you need to. Some stay there for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. But we have to remember that time flows or rather feels differently in that realm.
So most will won’t have a clue how long they been there. It might feel like weeks, months or years when it in fact has been much longer than that. But one day they will start reflecting over what is going on. Some might awaken to the truth and start moving on at long last.
Kope, love of Jews based on hate for Muslims? I have no problems with liking Jews, but Muslims make it very easy to attract hatred because of their deeds and their violent plans for the world.
For goodness sake, enjoy your life. Listen to some Western music; you are bound to find something you like and stop hating a race because your imams tell you to. Think for yourself and know that your destiny is not to oppress and enjoy the butchering of people, but to be happy and spread happiness.
It cannot be coincidence that Chris has come across this lady more than once.I just remember strange encounters myself,that many would have me believe were not from God, but I was not “led astray” On the contrary, my faith has increased and my awareness.
The cross on the forehead however bizarre and uncanny,is a harmless benign gesture. A clever way of clearly displaying the symbol of Christian identity with an also very clear message of opposition and resistance to the Muslims.
We know from the Bible that there will be “2 witnesses” in the end times who will preach and do wonders, and who will be hated and eventually killed, their bodies lying in the streets and laughed at and celebrated over until they rise from the dead. !This is also really bizarre and uncanny.
I think we all sense a lot will happen in the near future.May God bless and protect you all!
Quote:
A clever way of clearly displaying the symbol of Christian identity with an also very clear message of opposition and resistance to the Muslims.
end
And what’s most important is that Muslims, predictable as they are, will interpret it that way.
One of the few things we have working for us is the fact that our enemies have been conquering and subduing for 1,400+ years, and they never change.
We’ve got that much history and much in the present that teaches us about what they do, and what they will do.
We must turn every advantage they have into a thorn in their side. If you play chess, you know this can be done.
If you don’t, start. Now.
I have infiltrated one arselifter group with another name than this and this is how these eidiots think.
[21:20] rabea Genezzia: The Master supplication for forgiveness
O Allah! You are my Lord! None has the right to be worshipped but You. You created me and I am Your slave, and I am faithful to my covenant and my promise as much as I can. I seek refuge with You from all the evil I have done. I acknowledge before You all the blessings You have bestowed upon me, and I confess to You all my sins. So I entreat You to forgive my sins, for nobody can forgive sins except You.[sahih al-Bukhari; 8,75,318, at-Tirmidhi; 3393, an-Nasa’i; 5522, Ahmad; 16662]
Shaddad ibn Aws (radiAllahu anhu) relates that the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said that he (Sayyid al-Istighfar) most superior way of asking for forgiveness from Allah is to say (the above du’a). That “If somebody recites it during the day with firm faith in it, and dies on the same day before the evening, he will be from the people of Paradise; and if somebody recites it at night with firm faith in it, and dies before the morning, he will be from the people of Paradise.”
[21:21] almotagol: al salam alikom
[21:21] rabea Genezzia: wa aleikum assalam
[21:21] almotagol: keyf halak
[21:22] Prince2050: wa alikum alsalaam
Quote:
You created me and I am Your slave,
end
In Christian theology, the Creator is God, the creation is not the slave, but the creature.
The creature has free will, he is not a slave.
And the creature becomes the son of daughter of the creator through the mediating sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the only perfect offering for our sins, the only redeemer of humanity and God on earth.
One more thing–
if the creature should be forced to submit, to join a community or covenant under duress–
the commitment has no standing in God’s law, natural law, or human law.
This renders every “conversion” or “reversion” to Islam invalid.
Chris (admin) I hope you meet this woman again soon. I have found this thread so interesting. I agree with so many of the spiritual views expressed here, too numerous to mention individually, but thanks everyone.
I agree with emmi. I see this conflict, and I’m not a pessimist in fighting it. I really sense that as Christians and Westerners, we’ll be all right, we have all we need to protect us.
But having a resource and knowing that you have it are two different things. The woman you encountered knows that she can reach out to Christ and be saved– from lots of things, not just the conglomeration of troubles that the world is now.
When I first encountered my own dread of Islam and the possible imposition of Sharia over secular, Western concepts of law, I knew that knowledge of Western tradition, where it came from and why it had to be preserved, was important. The more I came to understand how Christianity fit into that tradition (a study of late Antiquity helped), the more assured I became that the West would prevail.
And to prevail against Islam is not just survival, it is to move on.
Islam will fade, not because we will have humiliated it, but because the world will simply have moved on.
But all of this is contingent on what we know and who we teach it to.
chris wrote, Nazis were not following the examples of Jesus. Islam is what is comparable to Nazism. Now condemn Islam……
you are right nazis were not follwing jesus, nazis were evil because they are whites or pinks color
@ kope,Hitler was best buddies with Muslims. He admired Islam and mourned the fact that they had lost to the Crusaders .
The Nazi’s openly admired islam finding it a good slavish religion for the German people. FACT.Research.Lots of photo’s of Hitler with Muslim leaders too !
Hitler had a deal with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem ( family of Arafat) about exterminating Jews. So don’t pull that racist “white” card out.
Islam was the first real fascist movement and had a great influence upon the Nazi’s !
Brit in exile
i love hitler (hail Hitler) because he fuck britist and europe because of him your shity empire ended and we muslims came to take over your country
sorry i mean to say rebuilt your country
lol
Kope, it’s obvious you went to a Muslim school. All your historical facts are incorrect. If your parents paid for your education, I suggest you get a rebate.
LOL !
Muslims, 1 1/2 billion and most uneducated and primitive still hanging on desperately to the 7th century including the garb, rituals and lifestyle.
Pathetic and pitiful.Dreaming of their non- menstruating virgins in that heavenly paradise-brothel promised by allah for good boys ( not women they are in hell according to MO) who kill infidels and blow themselves up.
You couldn’t make this rubbish up !
It’s no accident that when Winston Churchill wanted to compare Mein Kampf to another book, the one he chose was the Koran.
Both are profane.
Both counsel hatred, conquest, dispossession, mass murder and rape.
I do not support Nazism, so you might as well stop with your little game. You are too gutless to condemn Islam for its hatred of Jews.
my prediction is in near future christians will blame jews for immorality in the west and then slaughter them in civil war
Yes Muslim of course, as you know what the Nazi Jew-hating Islamists are up to- the very same as Hitler and his propaganda machine in the 30’s.
Nearly ALL conspiracy theories concerning i.e. 9/11 come from the Muslim world I discovered, infiltrated through their/your lefty cowardly “useful idiots”.The new fascists !
We were raised to believe we were wrong to colonise, but according to an article I read in the 80’s written by a civilised Arab
wherein he said: ” When the British left the ME I feared we would shortly descend into medival barbarism”, I knew my dad, a WW2 veteran was right.”Know your enemy” he also warned. And we do !!
Brit in exile wrote :I discovered, infiltrated through their/your lefty cowardly “useful idiots”.The new fascists !…
your lefty/liberals our are dogs they will bite you for us so you have to kill them
my english suck lol
edited
your lefty/liberals are our dogs they will bite you if come near muslims so you have to kill them and liberals will kill and after you kill eachother we will take over your country
lol
Muslim troll, indeed your level of education is what we are used to from Muslims, please don’t apologise we expect nothing different!
Well when/if you “take us over” and introduce Sharia I predict you will demand we embrace the 7th century and we will become poverty stricken Muslim hell-holes like the ones you all escaped from?
Who will provide you all with benefits, healthcare and “special privileges” then ? You will have to search further and run away to some better country to also ruin wont you? Ha.
Whatever, Muslim, according to the Bible the Messiah will come and destroy many nations. ALL of these nations are today Muslim.
Repent troll, before the Day of The Lord.
It will not take long now.
i feel sorry for you dumb christians liberals screwing you, atheists screwing you, jews screwing you, now muslims screwing you
ha ha ha
Kope As long as no- one has the power to enact laws that will hang us from cranes, butcher us, silence us when the imam wants our small daughters and forcibly marry our 9yr old girls to old men, we don’t have to worry about Muslims screwing us at present. But take heed, today we mean you no harm, but we are not going to allow politicians to throw us into a life of cruelty, deprivation and poverty, so you have a choice.
What sort of person are you anyway, who makes it a priority,covering up women against their will thereby producing brittle bones and rickets, when the above atrocities are carried out daily in Muslim countries?
What a predictable reply from a cornered Muslim.
The same as a cornered dog, snarl !
Obviously you are realising the actual consequences of a Muslim take-over now?Feel sorry for yourself slave of allah !!
You prefer living in the West ? Well of course the reason you are here?But then no more benefits of the West !!
Now home will come to you HERE with your own approval
and encouragement? Oooops!!!…(speaking of deranged..)
She may be a little addleeaded, but it seems that this woman has some sort of “psychic” abilities (however this may be explained): She says things to other people that in their eyes seem related to certain personal themes.
In your case, the statement “We pray for those who use the devil to murder” appears to have a relation to the Muslim faith. The belief that Islam in fact is the “Devil’s religion” goes back at least into Middle Ages.
“Using the devil to murder”, could mean in this context, to justify the lust to kill with a verse like “And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them.” (Surah 8:17). So the murder is not in the killer’s responsibility – Allah commanded it. Allah is Islam’s Don Corleone.
Welcome to the site Rudiger!
All these replys had been a very interesting read. As to David PAX, how can I hate a Jew, when my beloved Saviour Jesus Christ was a Jew, and to Kope, why, oh why, do you Muslims for the most part use obscene language. As mentioned before the Looney Left doesn’t really have an agenda, except being Looney Left. For Mr. Logan may mine as well as other’s prayer’s be with you for your safety. Perhaps to get a similar bullet-proof vest as Geert Wilders.
Thanks friend!