It is obvious that the persecution of Christians is on the rise across the Islamic world. So why do so many Christians continue to respect a religion that has no intention other than to destroy all competing religions? Islam has its eye on world dominance, whether we like it or not!
We will turn our attention now to the Islamic Center of Minnesota (ICM) and its involvement with the local Christian community.
INTERFAITH DIALOGUE
The ICM is involved in interfaith programs with the Minnesota Council of Churches and the “Interfaith Conversation Project”. This is one of the oldest, continously running dialogue in the country.
I have just two questions for the Christians who attend interfaith meetings with Muslims. How have Christians benefited from the meetings? And, has dialogue with Muslims slowed down the spread of Islam?
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Islamic Center of Minnesota
1401 Gardena Ave NE
Fridley , MN 55432 Phone: 763.571.5604
Fax: 763.571.8989
E-mail: [email protected]
Has anyone at the Minnesota Council of Churches actually done any research on Islam (MCC), or do they blindly believe whatever Muslims tell them? Let’s take a quick look at the MCC.
The Minnesota Council of Churches is a community of communions who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. As such, it seeks to manifest within the State of Minnesota the unity of the Church in Christ. Relying on the transforming power of the Holy Spirit, the Council works to bring its members into life-giving fellowship and into common witness, study and action to the glory of God and in service to all creation.
What are the odds that the ICM has told the MCC about the Islamic vision of Jesus?
Abu~Dawud Hadith Book 37, Number 4310: Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
That does not sound too Christianity friendly! Is there anything else a Church can do to help advance Islam?
(Formerly Columbia Heights Masjid)
Address:
4056 7th St NE ,
Columbia Heights , MN 55421-2801
Telephone:
(763) 571-5604Attention:
There is no parking in the parking lot on Christian Holidays from 10:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. Please be courteous of the people from the church as they are kind enough to let us use their parking lot anytime except their holidays.
Now lets go back to the days of Mohammad, and see what he had to say about Christians.
Bukhari Hadith Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas:When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets.” The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.
Finally, we will take a look at what Islamic Law has to say about Christianity.
From the Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law.
w4.0 THE FINALITY OF THE PROPHET’S MESSAGE
w4.1 (n:) This section has been translated to clarify some possible confusions among Muslims as to Islam’s place among world religions.
1. Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) is the last prophet and messenger. Anyone claiming to be a prophet or messenger of Allah after him or to found a new religion is a fraud, misled and misleading.
2. Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras, as is attested to by many verses of the Holy Koran, but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam, as is equally attested to by my verses of the Koran. Both points are worthy of attention from English-speaking Muslims, who are occasionally exposed to erroneous theories advanced by some teachers and Koran translators affirming these religions’ validity but denying or not mentioning their abrogation, or that it is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as “Christianity” or “Judaism,” are acceptable to Allah Most High after he sent the final Messenger (Allah bless him give him peace) to the entire world. This is a matter over which there is no disagreement among Islamic scholars, and if English-speaking Muslims at times discuss it as if there were some question about it, the only reason can be that no one has yet offered them a translation of a scholarly Koranic exegesis (tasfir) to explain the accord between various Koranic verses, and their agreement with the sunna.
Isn’t it past time the Christian community stops committing a slow suicide?
The picture of the broken cross is blasphemy toward Christianity. I will now await the millions of Christians that will call for violent holy war against you. Sorry, wrong religion.
Relax, its not a cartoon.
It’s important that Christians and all secularists understand that there are several perspectives on Christianity.
A Muslim perspective dictates this:
Allah and God are the same.
Christians worship God, therefore they worship Allah.
To be a good Muslim is to be a good Christian.
And if the religions are interchangeable, then to convert to Islam is to lose none of one’s Christian identity.
Christians are people of the book.
Who said these things?
Muhammad and Islamic authorities.
No Christian authority in any catechism has ever said them.
Even in the Catholic catechism, it is conceded that Muslims are “part of God’s plan of salvation,” but it does not say that Catholics are people of the book.
It does not say that Muslims are, in fact, saved.
Therefore, Islam is not a holy or sacred religion.
Catholics are people of the Word, not people of the Book.
And the Word is Christ. Muslims deny this.
And Jesus Christ is God, one with the Father and the Spirit, a Christian principle that Muslims deny.
So don’t affect a Muslim perspective on your faith, whether you are Christian, Buddhist, secularist or whatever. They have their own views of you.
You need to develop a view of yourself that is independent of Islam. Orthodox Christians know this well. And they do indeed preach that Islam is profane and that Muhammad is a false prophet.
They are no less Christian for doing so.
They are getting gullible Christians to actually assist them in eradicating Christianity. The Presbyterian church should no longer even be called Christian but Chrislam. The Presbyterian Church in several locations throughout the US including my city read the fng koran in the sanctuary on 9-11 last year. I know two people who went to one of these interfaith dawaa sessions and both came back telling me how we both believe in Jesus and how they acknowledge the Trinity and so on adnauseum. The Jesus they believe in is Allahs slave and will come back and slaughter Christians and heard their souls into hell, to them the “ridiculous” Trinity is Jesus, God and Mary!!!!!!! A pastor of a very large church in my city assured me they believed in the same Jesus we do. When I explained to him who Jesus is to them he was SURPRISED! Problem is these hapless Christians are not investigating the book of hate for themselves and they have a false sense of security and are completely ignorant of what is going on in the world unless CNN or MSNBC or FOX broadcast it. We know how little gets broadcast and how utterly slanted the little that does is. Even FOX is 40% Saudi owned!! I am a Christian absolutely but I would not go within 1000 feet of one of those interfaith dawaah sesssions. This is just heartbreaking to see Christians line up single file smiling as they wait march to the slaughter house! A halal slaughter house at that where they will go in agony while some non human mooslim screams koran verses at them as they slowly die!
In fact, the human relationship to God is one of the key things that separates Muslims from Christians.
As Christians, we are the adopted children of God.
Were we Muslims, we would be his slaves.
Think about that.
You are absolutely correct. Our God is a loving forgiving God who died for our sins. Their God is a hate filled, blood thirsty God who demands they commit murder in order to have a chance at that brothel in the sky the call paradise.
One of the biggest lies being told by Muslims is “We all worship the same God.” Their only “evidence” is that some Arabic-speaking Christians use “Allah” for the Jehovah-God of the Bible. A semantic relationship does not equate to an intrinsic identity. The God of Islam contradicts the Jehovah-God in too many ways. For a concise and cogent analysis read “Allah: Is He God?” at: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Newton/allah.html
Read The Infidel’s Guide to the Koran by Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch. It covers much on how Islam developed and it origins. Very educational.
I think it is just something about norwegians or swedes that attracts muslims minnesota sweden all prime examples.
I think we must have a mussie-loving gene. It’s hard to explain it another way. 🙁
It’s the blonde, blue eyed, fair skinned thing. All those sex slaves in Paradise Mo promised are White, they have skin that is white and glows like pearls. Mo was an incredible racist.
That would explain alot.
As a Christian Pastor, it breaks my heart everytime I read, see, or hear of other Pastors leading their flock toward this “interfaith” dialouge with islam. As Christians, we are commanded to be Disciples, to go and spread the “Good News”, to share the love of Jesus Christ. That doesn’t mean to open our Churches to muslims to Pray to the antichrist as some Churches have, or to read the Qur’an from God’s Pulpit, in God’s house, or let them use the Church parking lot etc… in fact, what Jesus tells us when people refuse to listen to the “good news” is : Mark 6:10-11 (New International Version, ©2010)
10 Whenever you enter a house, stay there until you leave that town. 11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”
As Christians, we should reach out to Muslims,(NOT ISLAM), and show them the Truth about Jesus Christ, if they refuse to listen, and continue to follow their false prophet and the antichrist that is islam, we should “shake the dust” off our feet!
When other Pastors open the Church to islam, I have to question their motives. The only thing I can come up with is pure laziness. The Qur’an is slightly over 400 small pages of relatively easy reading. The first time I read mine it took 2 days. The Hadith of Bukhari is a little over 700 pages of VERY EASY reading, it took me about 3 days the first time I read it. So in a week, any Pastor, can find out all they need to knoow about this EVIL called islam.
These Pastors who open The Churches they serve to the EVIL of islam need to go back and read James 3:1- ” Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.” I Pray my fellow Pastors, and my Christian Brothers and Sisters wake up in time!
Amen padre.
Finally an educated pastor! God bless you sir. I fear Christians in the west are so hypnotized by the media, their own desire for everything to be “OK” and their under educated pastors that we are in for persecution on the same level that is being ramped up in the middle east. It will just happen a little later.
Christians and Muslims have very few things in common, but the acid test is, What do you say about Jesus? One test of a prophet is whether or not he says Jesus is the Son of God. (Jesus IS God, but He became flesh and dwelled among men, was crucified, rose from the dead, and is now preparing a place for those who have repented and believe in Him.) How many times does the Bible warn us against false prophets? No, we can’t all just get along.
I am a 75 year old English Christian who because of my studies into Islam and much of 20 years spent in eight Islamic countries have a real aversion to and fear of Islam although I do not extend that to most Muslims I know.
In the past thirty years in the UK,mainly due to weak Archbishops of Canterbury and York, the Anglican Church has shown itself almost entirely subservient to Islam-mainly,in my opinion because it is dead scared of this vile invented “religion” in reality a cult!
I have even demanded of Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury and of my own Bishop of St.Albans that the Chrch witness to Islam but not have dialogue with it. I have spoken to various rectors and vicars with whom there is a much greater willingness to confront Islam. Unfortunately in the UK now our Church is riven by problems of dogma, gay and women bishops, same-sex marriages,conversions to Catholicism, etc to tackle yet another but even more serious issue!
I fear that although we in England have had our 7/7, our equivalent to the USA’s 9/11 it will take at least another, a far more horrible atrocity to make our very ignorant politicians do anything to stop Islam taking even more control of the UK.
The muslims in the UK are desperately trying to carry out a Mumbai style attack in England. So far they have been thwarted but success is imminent I fear. I doubt a successful attack will strengthen resolve against this vile “religion” but cause Brits to bang their head on the ground facing Mecca instead. “Oh my what more can we give them, must be a result of islamaphobia” etc. Prince Charles has even changed his title of “Defender of The Faith” to Defender of Faith”! I pray for Britain nightly. My country is not far behind.
Becoming more Catholicized is not going to protect Christianity in Britain. You’re right that the traditional seats of Christianity in England are York and Canterbury. There was also one at Bath, long fortotten I’m sure.
To know Christian doctrine and to understand why it is so very different from Islam is the beginning of preserving it.
Similarly, to know even some of the texts and ideas of Western culture and how they are different from islam is the beginning of protecting them.
Case in point– individualism.
Only in the West is individualism consciously written about and thought worthy of formal protection.
Why? Because the law is reason.
It does not seek reason.
Reason is simply what it is.
A Muslim would not agree because in his perception, law can only be perfect and from his irrational Allah.
To understand the difference and to make the choice for the Western perspective is the beginning of preservation.
For now, in the past decade, no one has had to raise one weapon to protect Western Civilization. Our critiquing words have been powerful enough to send the enemy into hysterics. Let’s hope it stays that way for a long time.
Muhammad was the son of Satan, the Muslim god, because Muhammad committed only evil. Muhammad broke every commandment of the True God. Muhammad lived in adultery when he “married” several women and had sex with all of them. Muhammad had his own private whorehouse. Muhammad said that only Muslim men could have their own whorehouse. Women could not “married” several husbands. If Muslim women pulled a stunt like this, they would be stoned to death for adultery.
Muhammad committed murder. Muhammad personally stoned a woman to death when she confessed that she had committed adultery. Muhammad had many prisoners put to death after surrendering to him.
Muhammad had a roving eye for pretty women. Zainab was the wife of Muhammad’s son. But depraved Muhammad, a sex pervert of the first calibre, took his son’s wife away from him and married her, thereby, committing incest. Like I said, Muhammad was a vile sex pervert of the first calibre.
Muhammad was a pedophile. Muhammad, having sex in his mind 24/7, married little Aisha when she was six years old. At the age of eight years, nine months old, Muhammad raped Aisha. Aisha was still playing with dolls when Muhammad raped her. That SOB (Son Of the Beast) Muhammad was truly a sick lecher. How can anyone accept the sex pervert Muhammad as a prophet?
In no way that Jesus was like the sick pervert, lecher, murderer Muhammad. No way!!
Mohammed based his fase religion on the moon god from the Babylion pantheon of gods available to him at the time on which to base his false religion.
If you read in Judges 8:21 you will read about Gideon about taking the crescent ornaments off the camels necks after he slew two Arabs. They must have been evil in the sight of God because Gideon was a good guy. (You need an ESV or ASV to get the crescent part of the translation)
Islam is no part of and is antithetical to Christianity. What fellowship can darkness have with light?
I actually heard about a new ‘relgion’ called Chrislam, if you can believe that!
The whole thing is pointless. It clearly states in their phony baloney book that “You must take no friends from among Christians and Jews” and also to “Kill all Christians and Jews”.
What ‘dialogue’ could their be?
It’s pure nonsense.
Truth Detector, you are straight up correct about all of it.
Mohammed was an evil man.
Guramit Singh of the EDL said “Mohammed made Hitler look like a teddy bear”.
Case closed on Islam.
It is a Satanic death cult and needs to stop being recognised as one the ‘monotheist’ religions, because that is ridiculous.
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More taqiyyah, I see.
The Muslim protestation of peace should be taken as seriously as this letter; it’s communicated in THE SAME SPIRIT!