Hello everyone, I just wanted to give you guys an update on an idea I though of right before the holidays. I am going to start an ex-Muslim segment within the next week or two. I will be interviewing them, to hear what they experienced while a Muslim, and why they left Islam. I have several lined up for interviews, including some who are still in the Middle East. It should be interesting!
Coming Soon to Logan’s Warning~ Ex-Muslim Segment!
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THis will be cool
I realize that it takes a brave individual to awaken and seek a different path for themselves rather then continue to adhere to the principles and teachings of the islamic ideology but I have to admit that I find the idea of individuals leaving islam a lot less interesting then the weak willed reasoning behind those wishing too and giving themselves over to this so-called religion especially the women.
Hey mate!
The problem is that the weak willed ones, will not even begin to question Islam. They refuse to answer any tough questions about their religion.
I understand the problems that can arise from the wall that is automatically erected when converts are questioned about the islamic faith but they will often offer-up the reasoning factors as to why they have thrown their lives away and joined the ‘faith’ in the first instance. What is revealed completely bewilders me, given all evidence that is available about this ideology.
I’m not slagging off (‘dissing’ is that how it’s spelt?) the premise of what you want you want to achieve with the apostates but I was just thinking of the other side of the coin and how interesting it could be. Like I said the evidence is there, freely available for all to find thanks to sites like this, I cannot fathom why any would join unless the ranks are now full of deaf and blind converts.
There are a lot of uniformed people out there. Then there also ones who know about Islam. I have asked black converts to Islam, why would they convert to a religion that allows slavery? I also show them that the Mohammad owned black slaves. One guy told me that “Christian” slavery is more brutal than Islamic slavery. Another accepted it, because Mohammad did free some slaves. But still, you would figure that black people would stand against Islam.
There is no way to ask this question without it sounding like I’m stereotyping but is there any truth in the notion that most black converts have their first introduction to islam whilst incarcerated in the American penal system.
If this is so then that is a terrifying prospect.
A good question for Black Muslims is, why do African-Americans comprise about 12% of the U.S. population, while you rarely see a Black in the Middle East even though they had slavery long before and after slavery was practiced in the U.S.? The answer is that Black slaves in the Middle East were domestic servants who could not perform their duties unless they were castrated. Only about 1/2 of those castrated even survived the procedure. Don’t tell anyone that Christian slavery was more brutal!
You have to have answers for those types of responses. In fact, the moslems were behind the slave trade. The cruelty that still goes on in the moslem world is atrocious and we have stopped it well over a century ago.
Bring up people like Deng who has videos out telling about his slavery.
Black slaves were castrated by Muslims as they were believed to have uncontrollable sexual appetites. While most slaves bound for the Americas were brought for agricultural purposes, slaves bound for Arab countries were used for sex and the military. Twice as many women as men were enslaved by Muslims. But most of the children born to these women were killed. The death toll from 1400 years of the Arab slave trade is estimated to be between 112 and 140 million.
We gave slaves freedom and have advanced far beyond the moslem world when we implemented Affirmative Action, got rid of segregation, etc. And to even eek out the words that justifies islamic slavery is beyond the pale by any black, or person of any color, moslem.
The key question here is:on what conditions did the said Mohammed free his slaves?
I would argue that 620,000 Americans died to free 4 million black slaves.
Not one Muslim ever died to free even one slave.
The commitment to freedom is in the West.
The commitment to despotism and anti-individualism is clearly ISLAM!
Admin,
This is a good idea. At the very least it should be interesting.
I know an ex Muslim through some internet conversations that I’ve had with him over the years, that you might be interested in interviewing.
Have you ever heard of Bosch Fawstin?
http://fawstin.blogspot.com/
Hey Damien!
I will get in touch with him.
Thanks!
You’re Welcome.
Please let Bosch know I told you about him.
Will do!
Bosch Fawstin is an excellent one. I love
his artwork and site!!!
PatriotUSA,
I like him as well, and admire his work, that’s why I recommended him. By the way he also scheduled to Aaron Klein’s Investigative Radio show today, but it was preempted due to the massacre Arizona. Check back to his site every to see when it will be rescheduled.
Chris,
I think this is a great idea and will
be a great way to reach people. Especially
those that may be on the fence in regard
to islam and other muslim things.
Chris
As I am sure that you are aware I have for some years now run on a voluntary basis an organisation for Muslim apostates.I set this up when I finally came back from long spells on business living and working in many Islamic countries and seeing for myself how Christians and,particularly Muslim apostates were treated there.
Ibn Warraq, the famous Muslim apostate writer(not his real name because of a death fatwa against him)lives in the USA and I advise you to get hold of his book “Leaving Islam” which contains many harrowing accounts of Muslims who have apostasised.
You will undoubtedly be horrified at the sheer brutality shown and wreaked on those who leave Islam. Often the cruelty and barbarism is almost beyond belief.
Chris,
Excellent idea!!! People who hate MUSLIMS will get a lot out of this! Thi may help them understand the EVIL is islam, not Muslims. As a Christian, one of the hardest things for me to learn was to HATE islam, for the EVIL that it is without hating Muslims.
I believe what you are about to begin will help educate your readers to debate and educate Muslims, to help them find the courage to LEAVE islam. So many Muslims want to leave islam, they want a better life, but they lose everything if they do. There is no happiness in islam, no hope, nothing but fear, suspicion and oppression. When they make the decision to leave they lose family, friends, community, often their careers, and not as often in this country, but elsewhere, their lives, or even the lives of those they love.
Because of your blog, like me you are already on some of their lists, but as you get this new idea up and running, you will see your name move up higher on their list. Blogs like yours, Pamela Gellers, Robert Spencers, etc are great for non-muslims, and that hurts islam, but it can also help islam. Muslims can and do use blogs like these when they have a friend or family member they find out is trying to leave islam. They point out the blogs and say ” How can you want to leaves islam!?? See they hate you!! They will never accept you!!” What you are about to do takes it to the next level. It devastates islam! islam can’t survive, it can’t grow, when those who have escaped are given a forum to let Muslims see it is possible to escape, not only possible, but well worth the risk! When they can see without the evil that is islam, they can find happiness, hope and an inner peace they have never known!!
As this new addition to your blog grows, you will harm islam, and help our country, and the world more than you ever have! As you do that, you will become even more hated by CAIR, ISNA, The Muslim Brotherhood, etc.. so be careful my friend!
Thank you so much for all of your hard work Chris!! You are a tremendous asset!
I AM SURE BY NOW YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I STAND IN DEALING WITH THESE FUCKING SCUMBAG….OXNIN
I have encountered a large number of ex-Muslims over the years. (Some continue call themselves Muslims for fear of someone killing them.) Still, each and every ex-Muslim I have met has a “story” about why they rejected the ideology of Islam. Their stories are powerful and heart-felt. They should be shared with those who continue to blindly follow the lies perpetrated by Muhammad.
The most famous “non-Muslim” today is Barak Obama. It is interesting and ironic that he has never verbalized his “story” about why he left Islam. If you get THAT story, your column will be a smashing success.
LOL! Good one Chris! 🙂
Chris
I have stated before on your site that Obama seems to have two masters, our God and Allah. Jesus Christ rightly said that “no man can serve two masters”.I have heard that the percentage of American citizens who believe that he is a Muslim is growing and I am not at all surprised seeing his support for Ground Zero Mosque and his references to the Qu’ran as a holy book when anyone who has read it as my apostate friends obviously have and translated it for me from Arabic will easily find out that it is the nastiest, cruellest and most barbaric novel that has ever been written by one of the most depraved human beings in the history of the world!!
You’re being too nice calling it a novel. It’s more like a mad mans ramblings page after page. There’s no story or stories in it like in the bible.
Former Muslims, or those who question their faith, must find validation in whatever Western community they speak with. These are the strong ones, the people who have not allowed fear to rule them.
I admire such people deeply.
Eib,
I agree.
I saw an ex-arselifter on BNI earlier today. I linked to this thread. Maybe you will hear from him or not.
Thanks Robin!
Your welcome, Chris.
Btw, ask them what they think of Obama, if he’s an arselifter or not. If they’re born and raised with pislam, they ought to spot the more subtle things that we might miss. So it could be interesting to hear their opinion about it.
Some of the comments above have no “Reply” box. Weird.
Anyway, someone above noted on the sub-topic of Islamic slavery, that:
“slaves bound for Arab countries were used for sex and the military.”
I don’t think Muslims used black African slaves for sex in an official capacity; they merely unofficially raped them along the way.
The specific sexual use of black slaves were as guards of the harems. Since the slaves had been castrated, it was felt they posed no sexual risk to the women (themselves virtual sex slaves).
Another use of black slaves in Islam was in the capacity of executioner. For some reason, Arabs liked to charge a black slave with the duty of beheading those guilty of whatever various capital crimes Sharia law has (including “witchcraft” and blasphemy).
Heperado,
Once the comment boxes get long and thin, WP eliminates the “reply” button. So you have to comment at the bottom where you did. Sorry.
On the general issue of this article, I have become rather jaded and steeled in cynicism about Islam and about the capacity for Muslims to reform in sufficient numbers that would make a difference to our #1 priority — our society’s safety.
In that light, I value the participation of ex-Muslims — but only in terms of educating our own Western PC MC idiots who persist in denying the danger of Islam.
Hesperado
May I suggest that you start doing what I have done for many years now. Email those MPs and Congressmen and misguided mayors like Michael Bloomberg who are either scared of Islam or stupidly pander to it as Obama tends to do and remind them that it is their DUTY to ask Islam to reform as it is not a fit philosophy for any democracy let alone a Western one!
Hey mate!
Bloomberg has millions if not billions invested with his Muslim buddies. He even has his hands in Sharia finance.
Bloomberg and Islam does appear to make strange bed-fellows. He is probably looking to the future when by his machinations a Muslim friend will ensure that even if the USA is taken over by Islam his family and successors will be very well looked after!
Something to look forward to. I’d love to know the mental process of dumping belief in islam and what fills that void.
Hi Bobby,
I am getting a very good response on this, even from people(ex-Muslims)I do not know, who want to help out and tell their story.
This sounds excellent Chris. I am certainly interested in hearing from those who left islam, what they wrestled with and what helped them make their decision. Why they risked all; life limb and family to leave they’re previous convictions behind. What advice they have for us as we confront islam in a PC culture, at work, home and in the streets. Along with the very informed contributors to your sight, this will be very helpful to others and myself in understanding the threat many are in denial about today.
You mean “Logan’s War”, dont you…
Good luck with your “ex-muslims” piece. Having seen Christian ministry videos on YouTube of ‘ex-muslims’ (Christian fakers whose patent non-muslim credentials are laughable), I will not hold my breath…
Still, I’m sure they’re out there… //Roll X Files theme//
There are by far more NEW muslims! Haha hoho… Just watch YouTube… Nonono, not only “Latinos” and “blacks”, but increasingly many “WASP” types (some of whom lost family on 9/11)…
Why not do a piece on that too, for a bit of balance? (You know what “balance” means, don’t you?)
Isn’t this is what really scares the crap out of crypto-Nazis (like you-hoo)? Especially when you see the ratio of women to men accepting Islam: 2/1, 3/1, 4/1 depending on location in the world…
Imagine that…
* A blue-eyed, blonde German doctor and his wife,
* blue/green-eyed American ex party girls,
* a red-blooded “was due to become a Christian minister” Texan football fan,
* a white ex Guantanamo prison guard,
* an Irish-American neuro professor,
* a Maths professor,
* 2 ex Bible-thumping priests,
* the daughter of a Christian minister,
* a Brooklyn-born ex Israeli settler,
* an aircraft engineer,
* a French astrophysicist,
* an Oxford professor,
* an ex KKK hater,
* a famous ex popstar,
* university students galore,
* entire families,
* Swedes, Finns, Russians (incl. ex-priests), atheists…
(And that’s just on YouTube…)
//Sigh!// I’m getting tired so I’ll stop…
Look it up or ask me for references – if you dare!
Go on, do your worst! You’re only preaching to the converted (hihi) as well as to the most abjectly small-minded (crypto-)racist, (crypto-) fascist “they’re stealing our women, our jobs and our country” Type Z’s out there in Cyber-America…
What a great crowd of people you have supporting you! “Yee-haaa! Hang’em high!”
Kind Regards,
1 of 1.5 billion
If you really think that there are not ex-Muslims out there, then you are completely blinded by Islam. Why don’t you explain how not wanting the West to fall to Islam, makes one a “crypto-Nazi”, or “small-minded”? Then tell me what race Islam is. There is a great crowd here, and you are obviously threatened by what you read here.
Here is a late Christmas gift for you!
6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity each year in Africa – Al-Jazeerah !
http://vodpod.com/watch/2502878-6-million-muslims-convert-to-christianity-al-jazeerah-
Do you think we view wisdom in racial terms?
LoganHasTheRuns,
Get a life.
Runny Man… Kind of nice getting out of prison isn’t it. But really – stay away from the crack.
Oh yeah, there’s also the case of a white lady judge in the UK converting to Islam…
A US Army major, a sergeant…
Sorry, sorry, I do go on don’t I…
Later!
Is this your attempt to try and shake me up? Because that is not going to happen.
Logan has the runs
1 of 1.5 billion
that’s nothing.
kind regards
1 of 4.5 billion
Surely you’re already shaken, stirred and generally a-flutter, no? hence this website… What with the hordes taking over your country bit by bit, sector by sector, I mean… I’m just trying to help flesh out the problem… A veritable “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” scenario… What with doctors, engineers, lawyers, students converting all over the place…
It’s called empathy…
Right, and YOU are just so frightening……lose the attitude. You deserve no respect, and you will get none here.
END OF CONVERSATION.
Many people joining islam do so because they are forced to do so and most of them just pretend to do so. Just think, those converting from islam to Christianity do so even though they face a death sentence. Just how good is a supposed religion that people are willing to risk their very lives to leave it.
No.
It’s called the submission of cowards.
The Mozarabic Martyrs were innocent.
The Copts of Egypt are innocent.
The Melkites and Catholics of Iraq are innocent.
In every place, Muslim authorities are guilty of crimes against Christians.
Why not use your real name, or stay around long enough to debate? If you are so proud of the false,pedophile,theif, murdering, rapist prophet or the antichrist you follow, defend it. Of course I realize it must be hard to defend the indefensible.
“Runs” is not entirely incorrect: any society, particularly one as vast and complex as the modern West, has marginal types and people who suffer from various neuroses and incipient psychoses. Given the immense and complex population fo the West — approximately 800 million spanning from Australia to Canada to the USA to Great Britain to Europe — it’s only natural that there would be a few hundred lost souls here and there among the non-Muslims whose relative mental disorders (coupled with varying degrees of Leftish self-hatred of their own West) would lead them to convert to Islam.
By far, however, the marginal types who have been converting to Islam in the highest numbers have been various types of criminals in prison populations who find the paramilitary discipline and super-gangster credo of Islam attractive (and, during their stay in prison, useful for protection).
Hesperado
It is a well-proven fact that most people who convert to Islam and a HUGE number who are already Muslims know little or nothing about the cult they are so stupidly joining!As Arabic is usually known mainly to Arabs as it is in Arabic, most Muslims cannot read it and,anyway, it is considered a sin to translate it!
Of course Islam will always have huge numbers as Muslim women are encouraged to produce many more children than other religions and sectors. In addition,unlike other religions-particularly Christianity-Muslim children are born into their so-called religion and later, when they find out what a murdering,thieving,lying bastard Muhammad really was then very large numbers apostasise.Who in their right minds would actually WANT to follow the words and actions of someone they are told was a perfect man when in reality he was one of the nastiest human beings in the history of the world. The Muslims apostasising-mainly to Christianity- like Wafa Sultan the chief defence witness in Geert Wilders trial and Nonie Darwish are extremely intelligent people totally unlike the very stupid,unseeing types like Runs who is so bogged down with excrement it has now reached his mind!!
So you mercilessly censure messages that disagree with your worldview…
That says is all doesn’t it…
Actually I am very fair here. But I do delete children like you who run their mouth, and then expect to be respected back.
You are also here to try and whitewash the Sharia push in the West. That says it all doesn’t it…
Don’t bother to respond.
Patriot
If you are so idiotic as to name yourself “patriot” and you are an American then,by definition you cannot be one! Islam is a false religion which is all about submission, hate and death. In the USA,unless my recollection of that great country from only a few years ago is completely screwed, Christianity is by far the major religion. That is as it should be since the USA is a country which believes in a faith which is based on free will, free speech, the LOVE of God and of fellow man, in charity, peace,kindness and every good feeling and act i.e EVERYTHING denied by Islam.
You must be a real misery to have atound!!
Hi mate!
He’s from your neck of the woods.
Relationships in the West are not based on submission. They are based on commitment, agreement, and free-will. Even family relationships take on these characteristics.
To submit of one’s free will to Islam, is to submit and then lose one’s free will.
I have yet to see a Muslim argue in favor of free will, individualism, reason or relationships based not on submission.
To force others to submit, in the West, is to be a bully and to be despised. To get all of one’s wisdom from one’s strength.
And we know the two are not the same.
Just as the Quran is not holy, strength is not wise.
I quote from the website of the APOSTATES OF ISLAM who in every case were born into strict Muslim families, went to fundamentalist madrassas and read and understood the Koran in Arabic:
” We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the one of dibelief(Qu’ran4:48 and 4. 116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was forced on us,and we came to realise that far from being a religion of peace and truth, Islam is a hoax, it is the hallucination of a sick mind amnd nothing but lies and deceit”
Quote:
” We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the one of dibelief(Qu’ran4:48 and 4. 116). end quote.
But Westerners know that it is more human to suspect, more human to question than it is to believe or adhere.
The disciples loved Jesus.
If they had murdered everyone who threatened or challenged Jesus, with the commandment to love one another in their minds, then they would have been hypocritical in their faith.
On the night before Jesus’s passion, they slept. They did not do so because they were disloyal, they did so because they were merely human.
Every Christian asks God for help in the issue of “unbelief”.
Everyone who disbelieves is still beloved of God, and is not slaughtered for disbelief.
The Allah of Islam is petty, bloodthirsty and childish.
The God of the West is wise, loving and patient.
He created humanity, instead of commanding it into being.
And so he knows every human being. And he hates no one.
Allah demands that Muslim fathers give their sons to die for him.
But God gave his only son to die for US.