From the Islamic scriptures I will start with:
Koran verse 004.024
YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
The meaning of what “right hands possess” is explained in Islamic Law, the Koran, and the ahadith.
“The Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law”
This book has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the highest learning Islamic school in the world.Justice Chapter: Jihad
THE RULES OF WARFAREo9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.
This is backed up by other Koran verses.
033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
008.069
YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
While Islam does not consider this rape, it sure sounds like kidnapping, slavery, and rape to me.
The ahadith even go into more detail on how Mohammad approved of him, and his merry men raping women.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and
we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
By Mohammad’s words we can see that he did not care that his men raped the women, nor did he care if the women were impregnated by their rapist. What a guy.
After raiding a town and defeating the “enemy”, Mohammad picked a female captive of his own.
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 437:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:The Prophet came to Khaibar and when Allah made him victorious and he conquered the town by breaking the enemy’s defense, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtab was mentioned to him and her husband had been killed while she was a bride. Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself and he set out in her company till he reached Sadd-ar-Rawha’ where her menses were over and he married her. Then Hais (a kind of meal) was prepared and served on a small leather sheet (used for serving meals). Allah’s Apostle then said to me, “Inform those who are around you (about the wedding banquet).” So that was the marriage banquet given by Allah’s Apostle for (his marriage with) Safiya. After that we proceeded to Medina and I saw that Allah’s Apostle was covering her with a cloak while she was behind him. Then he would sit beside his camel and let Safiya put her feet on his knees to ride (the camel).
Are we really supposed to believe that Safiya willingly married Mohammad, after him and his army killed her husband? Only a blind following Muslim would believe that.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 513:
Narrated ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Suhaib:Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet took Safiya as a captive. He manumitted her and married her.” Thabit asked Anas, “What did he give her as Mahr (i.e. marriage gift)?” Anas replied. “Her Mahr was herself, for he manumitted her.”
Here we read of the official rape, of what was obviously a petrified girl. (She was a Jewish girl that was 17 at the time.)
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
As I have been saying, Islam is a religion of war, that encourages lying, and allows rape. It is the anti-thesis of America, and it should of never been allowed to be practiced here in the first place.
That is why the rape rate has gone up exponentially in Europe.
Very much so. Arselifters just follow good old Mahound and do what he did, seeing how he claimed to be the model for all men to follow.
And not just in Europe, but everywhere arselifter infestations exist in the western world. We've had similar problems in Australia. The most infamous example being Bilal Skaf's rape gang –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Skaf
This prompted an imam to come up with this –
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/musli…
Are arselifters sick or what?
Hi Gary, The gang rape tactic happened recently in Sweden. It was quite horrific. Same M/O – a group of devout muslims. I know (personally) a friend (non muslim) whose young son was buggered by a muslim “friend”. The sad part is that he accepted money as compensation. Also, after chatting to iranian muslims in the UK, they tell me homosexuality and promiscuity are alive an well in iran. this is one sick religion, or shall I say political ideology.
Gustav,”Also after chatting to iranian muslims in the UK, they tell me homosexuality and promiscuity are alive and well in iran….” Not only in iran ,but through out muslim countries. Go to YouTube and type in ” bacha bazi-afghanistan” and there are more links you can see there.
To offer compensation for rape is to practice slavery.
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I know (personally) a friend (non muslim) whose young son was buggered by a muslim “friend”.
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It is only a matter of time– this practice will become commonplace wherever Muslims are. Particularly in the West, where blond hair and white skin are prized commodities in slaves.
First they compensate– and then, mark my words, they will enslave.
I am muslim and I agree that alot of western men are violent and do such things. I don’t like it more than you do. Because of them, people now think it has everything to do with the muslim religion. It doesn’t. First of all it is absolutly forbidden to have sex before marriage in the muslim religion. So if you’re telling me that it would be ok for muslims to rape these women, it’s bullshit. Rape is forbidden in the muslim religion.
During the time of Muhammad punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa’il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Muhammed, who said to the woman, “Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you,” but of the man who had raped her, he said, “Stone him to death.” (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud). According to a Sunni hadith, the punishment for committing rape is death, there is no blame attached to the victim.
Also, Muhammad echoed what the Quran said, “I command you to be kind to women.” In one of his last commands in his farewell pilgrimage before his death, he kept repeating, “I command you to be kind and considerate to women.” In another hadith, he said, “It is only the generous in character who is good to women, and only the evil one who insults them.”
The Islam itself isn’t the problem. It’s those men who try to find excuses to rape a woman saying it’s ok in the muslim religion, which is not true at all.
A Muslim will not call the rape of captives of war rape. But those with morals do.
Muslim Hadith 4364
Sahih Muslim Book 08. Marriage
Chapter: Al-Azl (incomplete sexual intercourse): Coitus Interruptus.
Mohammad also compared women to dogs, why did you leave that part out? Mohammad was a self-centered power freak who said anything at the time to justify his actions.
If you had any morals at all, you would condemn Islam for allowing child marriages. I highly doubt you will though.
You are a fucking liar. RAPE is fully sanctioned in Islam. MUHHAMED RAPED a 9 year old girl! Your entire Islam is BASED ON CHILD RAPE. DUH! What is the matter with you? Are you an ignorant dummy? What do you think happens when a 53 year old man starts having sex with a 9 year old playing with dolls. Seriously are you fucking retarded? Your ENTIRE RELIGION STARTS WITH CHILD RAPE.
Islamic sex is LOVELESS!
Islam is hatred, most particularly, of women.
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Marriage in the west hates MEN, women dominate it!!
Western sex is loveless (mostly fornication)!!
see how these generalization can be turned? why not go visit a Muslim country, like Iran or Saudi Arabia and go talk with the people.
I talk to Muslims all the time. The will NOT condemn any of Islam’s vile aspects.
Let me know when YOU want to discuss Islam.
shouldve checked your facts first
Safiyah Bint Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab became one of the wives of Muhammad after having been taken captive in the war of Khaibar where her father and husband were killed by the Muslims. She was the daughter of Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab, the chief of the Banu Nadir tribe, who were all expelled from Madinah in 4 AH after plotting against Muhammad. She was married to Kinana ibn al-Rabi’a just before the Muslims attacked Khaibar. She was then seventeen. She had formerly been the wife of Sallam ibn Mishkam, who divorced her. She was known for her extreme beauty and, with her husband recently killed, the Prophet chose her for himself.
She greatly respected Muhammed as “Allah’s Messenger”. She was intelligent, learned and gentle. In fact, gentleness and patience were her dominant qualities. She had many good moral qualities.[57]
The hadith of Abdul Aziz says:[58]
We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah’s Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, ‘Go and take any slave girl.’ He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah’s Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.’ So the Prophet said, ‘Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’ Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her.
Yes, indeed Safiyyah was angry at the Prophet at first but she forgave him later on. The Prophet Muhammad apologized to Safiyyah for the killing of her father and her husband by saying, “Your father charged the Arabs against me and committed heinous act,” he apologized to the extent that made Safiyyah get rid of her bitterness against the Prophet.[59]
Saffiyah says, “I was my father’s and my uncle’s favorite child. When the Messenger of Allah came to Madinah and stayed at Quba, my parents went to him at night and when they looked disconcerted and worn out. I received them cheerfully but to my surprise no one of them turned to me. They were so grieved that they did not feel my presence. I heard my uncle, Abu Yasir, saying to my father, ‘Is it really him?’ He said, ‘Yes, by Allah’. My uncle said: ‘Can you recognize him and confirm this?’ He said, ‘Yes’. My uncle said, ‘How do you feel towards him?’ He said, ‘By Allah I shall be his enemy as long as I live.'” [60]
The Prophet Muhammad made the following offer to her, as recorded by Martin Lings:
He [the Prophet Muhammad] then told Safiyyah that he was prepared to set her free, and he offered her the choice between remaining a Jewess and returning to her people or entering Islam and becoming his wife. “I choose God and His Messenger,” she said; and they were married at the first halt on the homeward march.[61] Safiyyah moved to the house of the Prophet. He loved, appreciated and honored her to the extent that he made her say, “I have never seen a good-natured person as the Messenger of Allah”.[62] Safiyyah(R) remained loyal to the Prophet until he died.[63]
The marriage to Safiyyah(R) had a political significance as well, as it helped to reduce hostilities and cement alliances. John L. Esposito notes that
As was customary for Arab chiefs, many were political marriages to cement alliances. Others were marriages to the widows of his companions who had fallen in combat and were in need of protection. [64]
This significant act of marrying Safiyyah(R) was indeed a great honour for her. Haykal notes that:
The Prophet granted her freedom and then married her, following the examples of great conquerors who married the daughters and wives of the kings whom they had conquered, partly in order to alleviate their tragedy and partly to preserve their dignity. [65]
By marrying Safiyyah, the Prophet aimed at ending the enmity and hostility adopted by the Jews against him and against Islam, all the way long, but alas they went on with their hatred for Islam and for the Prophet because he was not from their people as were most of the previous Prophets. Safiyyah said, “The Messenger of Allah went to Hajj with his wives. On the way my camel knelt down for it was the weakest among all the other camels and so I wept. The Prophet came to me and wiped away my tears with his dress and hands. The more he asked me not to weep the more I went on weeping.” [66]
She gave some of the Prophet’s other wives gifts from her jewels that she brought with her from Khaybar.[67]
Safiyyah was a humble worshiper and a pious believer. About her ibn Kathir said, “She was one of the best women in her worship, piousness, ascetism, devoutness, and charity”.[68]
Safiyyah was a very charitable and generous woman. She used to give out and spend whatever she had for the sake of Allah to the extent that she gave out a house that she had when she was still alive.[69]
When Muhammad was in his final illness, Safiyah felt deep and sincere sadness for him. She said: “O Messenger of Allah, I wish it was I who was suffering instead of you.
You’re wasting your time. The majority who post here are non-Muslims and believe your religion to be profane.
Your history is indefensible.
Islam is the religion of rape.
Ask the Christians at Beslan.
christian,come to us,we will show you what christianity teach and how idiot,lier admin of this site lie….
Shame on you admin for your lies,
Your takiya impresses nobody here, arselifter.
So the verses that I quote from the Islamic scriptures are lies? Point them out on your next comment. Are you afraid to question Islam, and Mohammad the rapist?
Yh it does say that in the quern about slaves and for your information them times everyone did it wiv their slaves which was not considered as rape and know that there are no slaves we are forbidden to do it
You may also wanna read the ayah which says if we do it unlawfully we are to get 80 lashes
Verses 4:24, 4:92, and 33:50 all mention slaves. Forcing a woman to having sex is rape. It is pathetic that you would even try and justify this.
If you do not believe in the Incarnation and the Blessed Trinity, you are damned.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
Taqiyyah is the road to hell.
Interfaith con sessions are one of the deadliest weapons Muslims have.
Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
The Koran is lies.
Your soul is doomed.
A king?
A demon for sure– that’s what your “Allah” is.
All you have done is prove that Islam allows the taking of sex slaves, which is rape to non-Muslims.
“Safiyah Bint Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab became one of the wives of Muhammad after having been taken captive in the war of Khaibar where her father and husband were killed by the Muslims?”
Like she had any choice, but to go with Mohammad. John Esposito is just an Islamic apologist, who will not show up here, or return my call.
Everyone had slaves in ancient times. When Mohammad was a live, 640 AD, The Roman empire was in existence and everyone had slaves. Muhammad married the war captive. He did not make her a slave, which was customary at that time. Heck in European history it was permissable for Knights to rape any woman not clearly known to be a lady…. The Qur’an however, protects female salves against prostitution:
“Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His Grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them (such a deed) if ye know any good in them: (yea) give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you . Bur foce not your maids to pristitution when they desire chastity, in order thtat ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them , yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them).
Right, like she was not afraid to turn him down after Mohammad and his men just killed her husband.
How nice. They can be raped by their owners, but not be forced into prostitution. That makes it everything OK. Do you even begin to see what you are trying to justify?
The bottom line is that Islam allows slavery, and it seems that you are afraid to criticize Islam.
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When Mohammad was a live, 640 AD, The Roman empire was in existence and everyone had slaves.
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No.
You are wrong because you are indifferent to the history of the West.
The Roman Empire was not in existence.
It had been divided into halves, a Greek East (whose identity had changed much) and a Latin West.
You claim knowledge of the West from your experience. You have studied nothing because the West has nothing for you.
The Qur’an does not state the actions of Muhammad though. Also, some of Muhammad’s actions are not to be followed. It was in something that I quoted yesterday that the admin took down. I will have to look the passage uo again. Nevertheless, even what the admin has up now 33:50 says somethings are just for the Prophet.
I did not take any of your posts down, and you have not quoted any verses. All you do is make statements with no source behind them.
33:21 says to follow his actions.
033.021
YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
Koran Verse 4:24, Bukhari Hadith verse Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459, and the Reliance of the Traveller all prove that sex slaves are permitted for Muslim men. 33:50 proves that Mohammad himself was a rapist. Thanks for the back up.
first off the Byzantines actually didn’t believe in slaves since it changed its ways, during the time of Muhammad (may he burn in hel) he had many slaves he took as wives since they didn’t have no choice since they had a sword to their throats. and ps the knights you described were kicked out of knighthood since they desecrated the code of chivalry, and besides that the Muslims take wives from other husbands anyways so who is the more savage because knights have to follow the code or be kicked that is how we the westerners call civil.
I can’t believe you are posting that as some sort of support. What I read in that is about a disgusting degenerate man who rapes, steals women, kills their fathers, and basically is the devil with many wives. What a disgusting man. how degenerate do you have to be? A mass rapist, a child rapist, a murderer. Wow, way to start a “religion”, sounds like a death and rape cult to me.
I hope that reliable stats can be kept on rape in every region to which Muslims travel.
There was about 5500 rapes in Sweden in 2008!! Those numbers is way higher than even som african countries with higher population than ours! And the perps is always muslims!!
And I'll bet the media doesn't report that they are arselifters. The British media seldom reports who they are now too (I believe they were told not to). Same in Australia. But they report their names and its obvious what cult they belong to from that.
Of course they don't mention it is mahoundians. If they show pics of the perps then they're always pixled except in those rare cases where the perps are actually ethnic swedes. As that is not enough, sometimes they have bare arms in the photos. if so they photoshop them white! However, there are a few free blogs and sites where the truth is told. For how much longer I don't know. EU is as of this year starting to implementing new draconian laws about "hate speech".
Yes, telling the truth becomes hate speech. What a strange world we live in.
I'm still looking for a definition of the term "arselifter". Can you tell me what that means?
As an American, you'd probably say "asslifter" instead.
Anyway, its a term I made up after getting my Google Groups accounts cancelled for using terms like raghead, towelhead, etc. Because those terms are racist. Muzzie and arselifter aren't, since it applies to all of them and not just Arabs.
The best explanation would be a picture. This one will do –
https://loganswarning.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/…
See anything you like? 😉
Carry a gun and be willing to use it. That is a great deterrent.
There doesn't seem to be any action plan against all the rapes in Sweden, since the authorities never wants to discuss the issue. They just ignore it as if the problem doesn't exist. I see this way of acting as the biggest betrayal ever of Swedish women in the country that sees it as the most equal country in the world as regards men and women. I am baffled !
If the government refuses to act against the muz pukes in rape cases, then why are not the Swedes themselves not "taking care if business"? That is something I just cannot understand. Try that here in the South and they'll find the perp hanging from a tree some morning…..or drowned trying to swim the river with way too much stolen chain……or, the perp could disappear totally in the neighborhood of a hog farm.
Tonto, read Cavatus' blog for some answers –
http://cavatus.wordpress.com/
But, yes, the Swedes need to react and defend themselves. Unfortunately, this needs to be done surreptitiously as their government is against them.
Personally, I'm for patriots in all western countries forming organisations like the EDL to take action –
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/
Its unfortunate that its come to this but our governments have let us down and we now need to fight fire with fire.
My people would have taken their time with this guy, back in the old days. Probably take him 3-4 days to pass horribly into hell if those guys got ahold of him…..suits me. I can't imagine the rage and frustration I would feel until I got my hands on anyone who would be stupid enough to harm my daughter.
Since the viking age scandinavians has grown a very long fuse, especially the swedes. But sooner or later there will happen something that blows off the lid, the final straw so to speech.
A few months ago happened a case in southern Sweden that is utterly revolting. An iraqi scumbag by the name Fadi Ramadhan couldn't take it being dumped by his ex-girlfriend referred to as Emma P in media so one day he simply just kidnapped her, drove away out of town to a secure place. Now I don't remember in exactly what order the assault on her went but he broke both her arms, cut her in the eyes with a knife, bashed her head in, beated and kicked her and dragged her behind his car in chains or something like that. Then he left her to die out on a field. Well, because of this she was late to an appointment with her dad who suspected something bad had happened. They found her alive but she died in the ambulance but was revived again. She is still after all these months hospitalized and a vegetable. It is still unsure if she will survive. She is just 19 and had her whole life in front of her. To be honest I suspect something will happen to Ramadhan once he is let loose again. As far as I'm concerned he will be lucky if he just get hanged by the vigilantes. I'm have a feeling he won't get away that easy though. I'm not going to shed one single tear for the mahoundian asshole.
I googled this and could only find reports in Swedish. Here's a translated blog –
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&s…
It appears here name is Emma Pettersson (at least its linked to Fadi in Google's search results).
It used to be that people like him would be dealt with in prison but the prisons are all full of arselifters now.
I googled this and could only find reports in Swedish. Here's a translated blog –
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&s…
It appears here name is Emma Pettersson (at least its linked to Fadi in Google's search results).
It used to be that people like him would be dealt with in prison but the prisons are all full of arselifters now.
I doubt it.. I really do, although hoping that indeed the common man and woman will take care of business.
Bruce Bawer explains this European, or should I state WEstern behaviour of letting go all this muslims crimes: decades of 'eductation' (call it brainwashing) that the government will take care of you, is the basis for NOT doing anything… while waiting for a government that does -exactly- NOTHING.
The ones, that are doing something -be it using only words (free speech)- get prosecuted and convicted.
Two examples:
Susan Winters in Austria
Geert Wilders in the Netherlands…
Its more that the socialists have an agenda of destroying the western ideals of capitalism, free speech, etc.
Geert stands a good chance of winning and doing something before its too late.
if I could go back in time I would cut Muhammad’s dick off and watch him suffer
They only way to do it is to stir it up without mentioning the cause.
Start by asking the media (talkback radio, letters to the editor) what is the cause the rising incidents of rape. They'll be uncomfortable with it but, if enough people keep asking, they might address it.
The other thing that needs to be done is for Swedish men to offer women some protection. Don't let them go around by themselves. Something like the EDL needs to be set up in Sweden too.
This is excellent, I'm a member of ACT for America, enjoyed your read. We have a chapter where I live for establishing Sharia Law. Keep up the great posts, I read yours on face book, didn't know you had a site until now. J.C.
http://translate.google.se/translate?u=http://pol…
Notice that the motherf****er has changed his name to a partly more swedish looking one. Probably because he thinks he will get more sympathy in MSM.
Whoa.
Seems like Mohammed was taking lessons from Moses and Jewish rapist Roman Polanski.
"Among the detestable villains that in any period of the world have disgraced the name of man, it is impossible to find a greater than Moses, if this account be true. Here is an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers, and debauch the daughters.
Let any mother put herself in the situation of those mothers; one child murdered, another destined to violation, and herself in the hands of an executioner; let any daughter put herself in the situation of those daughters, destined as a prey to the murderers of a mother and a brother, and what will be their feelings? It is in vain that we attempt to impose upon nature, for nature will have her course, and the religion that tortures all her social ties is a false religion."
– Thomas Paine, American Founding Father in the "Age of Reason"
"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days"
– Deuteronomy 22:28-29
So according to Jewish law, if a man rapes a woman, he must pay her father money, and then marry her.
Is that the best you can do, wanker?
Here's my rebuttal –
http://www.pi-news.org/2010/03/comparisons-with-j…
Yet Christians and Jews are not on worldwide movements, trying to subjugate the world under a set of barbaric religious laws. So how about sticking to todays threat, which is Islam.
Not only that: whatever mohamed did, is been told as an example for his followers… an example they are willing to AND ARE following all over this globe.
The stories in the bible, are stories -and I reiterate your comment- and stories of the past…
there are 203 million muslims in indonesia, 174 million in pakistan, 145 million in bangladesh, and a billion more in countries that muslim soldiers have never set foot in- define the meaning of threat for me again?
Bangladesh and Indonesia were not always Islamic, and Pakistan was created because Muslims wanted their own state. These three countries prove my point about Muslims taking over. Thank you.
You quote something from 4000 years ago to justify the actions of your rapist buddies today? The world was a different place 4000 years ago idiot. Christians adhere to the new testament not the old from which your quote comes also this verse you quoted does not tell us to behave in this way for all of time. Jesus came and showed the way of love.
The reason why people don't do anything about the high rape rate in Sweden is that people in general don't know this. Swedish media silences all kind of information of this kind in order not to cause xenophobia. There are even stately subsidized researchers that always propagate that there is no reason to worry (Jerzy Sarnecki) and so on. The main goal is to hold Swedes in ignorance and to keep them calm.
So whenever you try and discuss this your are a minority and a suspected xenophobe.
As regards EDL in Sweden, they are forbidden to form! Swedes are always expected to rely on the state, something that has shown to be the biggest deceit in our history.
Sounds like the same problem with the left across the West. They are the enablers of the Islamic movement.
Good luck over there!
The Sweden Democrats gain new ground everyday. The only way the seven-headed hydra can keep them out of parliament is by cheating on the election day and try to make ballots disappear during counting during the night. Just like in any other third world dung-heap.
Or as happens for instance in the Netherlands, by constantly telling the Dutch that Geert Wilders is a islamophobe, xenophobe, intolerant, extreme-right ass hole….
It's called brainwashing and only when you are NOT living in the country, it is so obvious.
But I believe (and hope) that common sense will prevail in the Netherlands and they will finally (as hopefully the rest of our WEstern world – inclusive North America) realize we are constantly lied to and islam IS A CANCER, that will destroy our culture, heritage, democracy and freedoms.
All Europeans have to do is study their history. Arselifters have been attacking Europe for centuries. Pislam caused the Dark Ages. Its wars in eastern and western Europe nearly caused a complete collapse of European culture.
All this history can be found here –
http://www.historyofjihad.com/
I have to agree with cavatus and Robin, the Swedes have been lulled to a false sense of security by the socialist government (don’t be fooled by the current one, they are just as socialist as the other) brainwashing would probably be an apt term. As is stated above, the only place you will find what really happens is on the internet. But not everybody has the time to get on line so they rely on PC-media for their news. That is why Swedes are ignorant. There’s also the factor that they have been; again brainwashed, to the notion that the government will take care of them from cradle to grave.
And yes, if you say something that is not PC you are automatically a rasist, nazi and probably also criminally insane for daring to say anything negative against the “wonderful multi culture” that has invaded our shores….
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Women need to unite; to protect them selves and girls and to punish the perpetrators.
Islam is not a religion but a political party who was created by Mohammed, a sexual deviate, rapist, pedohile, a violent criminal who promotes abnormal cruelty, It must be stamped out.
To watch "rape in Islam" at action, go to Egypt, especially in the small towns.
Muslims are kidnapping youg Coptic girls, RAPE them and force them in Islam or kill them. This is done with the blessings of the authorities.
Lately, the Copts have enough and voiced their anger in a peaceful way. We'll see how far this will take them.
Islam is simply ugly inhumane system, it is not a religion.
i’m maro from egypt and i’am muslim and i have many christian friends we are just like brothers not like u say (kidnapping youg Coptic girls, RAPE them and force them in Islam or kill them)
i think u never visit egypt or know a bout it
the 2nd thing u don’t have 2 say (Islam is simply ugly inhumane system, it is not a religion.)
u never know about islam but it’s ur dirtty mind
Islam is a disgrace to humanity, and I have done plenty of reseach on the Coptics of Egypt. They have been persecuted there for centuries.
On top of it, my country should not be giving Egypt a dime. Since Islam is so great, go fend for yourselves.
Prove me wrong on the Islamic scriptures.
i know u r racist 1 .
and i won’t talk alot about islam 2 some 1 who hate with a blind mind.
but the thing i want 2 know what about ur religion and ur thought’s mo2men?
Islam is not a race, and you cannot refute my articles. That is the bottom line.
I am not religious, and your attempts to change the subject will not work.
ايها الغاشم
انا استطيع التحدث عن خطا مقالاتك من الادعاء والكذب علي المسلمين بانهم كفار وبعبادة اللات والعزة واشياء من هذا القبيل
اولا اللات والعزة عبارة عن صنمين اي تمثالين من عهد القرشي كان العرب قبل الدعوة الاسلامية وثنيين مثلما قلت
لكن بعد ان هدانا الله تعالي الي التوحيد وانة لا اله الا هو بتبشير من سيدنا محمد صلي الله علية وسلم رسول الهداية والتسامح وليس الحرب مثلما تدعي
What is the matter maro, cannot type in English anymore? That is OK, I will send these to my Coptic friend in Egypt. He will translate it.
لكم دينكم ولي ديني
دة كلام الاسلام يا عنصري
Hey Maro, stop lying, cuz when you lie you make stuff worse.
As a Coptic I have been persecuted all the time and if you Muslims do it in a manipulative and indirect way this never mean you are not persecuting us, this only mean you are cowards and hypocrites, don’t want to take the consequences of what you do.
WALA YA MARO, BALASH NASB WE KEZB WA7YAT OMAK!!
You’re lying, 7 CHTISTIN’S WERE JUST KILLED AFTER THEY GOT OUT OF CHURCH LAST CHRISTMAS, WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT ARE YOU TRYING TO SELL HERE?
YOUR TERRORIST CULT FROM HELL IS ALREADY EXPOSED, LIVE WITH IT, THEY ALL KNOW, YOU’RE RELIGION IS AMONG THE DIRTIEST IDEOLOGIES THAT EVER EXISTED IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY.
بلاش الشغل الوسخ دة وحيات أمك، خلاص أتفضحتوا و يا حلو بانت لبتك!
I know who this is, and I knew that you could not resist this fight!
Thanks. 🙂
Hey Maro….all I will say is that his person is a fellow Egyptian, who will you bury you in a debate on Islam. Do you have the guts to debate this person?
Hello there Admin!
You know I love debating these guys!
Come on Maro Baby, show me what you’ve got!
Hello EWP! Apparently Maro has backed down to a woman. His Muslim brothers will not be happy with him. Lol!
I’ll have more for you, they are on this site a lot.
The Muslims call us infidels.
Let us see who the infidels.
They keep repeating the following:
“Allah akbar”. That means in Arabic Allah is greater. This is an incomplete sentence.
The Islamists translate that “Allah is great”.
Here is a small lesson in Arabic language:
Kabeer (in Arabic) means great.
Al-akbar means the greatest.
Akbar means greater.
The question is greater than who or what?
Also, every time they mention Mohammad they say “sallah Allah alieh wa sallam”.
That means Allah PRAYS over him and peace with him.
If Allah is God, to whom Allah is praying? Is there another god?
This is due to the fact that the Arab pagans worshipped 360 gods with allah is the most common, and Mohammad was raised in the religion of the moon god al-e-lat. This Al-e-lat was the moon god according to the archeological evidence. That is why they have the crescent moon on their flags and on top of their mosques, till this day.
we aren’t pagans worshipped 360 gods with allah like u say this is just ur lies about what u don’t and never know.
Prove my article wrong.
So why do you pagan arselifters still follow pagan rituals like run between two silly hills in that shithole Mecca and circle the kabah anticlockwise? Not to mention all the other pagan nonsense you do (shaving, etc).
Maro baby, you rotate a black room seven times half naked, and kiss the BLACK STONE, this is PAGANISM sweetheart.
Why don’t you tell us more about you think of the Admin’s post?
Why don’t you tell us how many millions of innocent women in north Africa, India and around the world were raped and enslaved according to the religion of slavery and rape?
You were before good ole mo recreated the moon god in his own image.
To continue the Arabic lesson (infidels):
Also, their shehada (creed) says:
Ashhad an la illah illa Allah WA Mohammad rasoul Allah.”
Which means, ‘I believe in one god and Mohammad is his messenger.
Now, if one says the first portion only, he would not be considered a Muslim. One MUST say the second part of the sentence in order to become a Muslim. That means Mohammad is as important as Allah if not more important!!
This is the most racist site i have come across.
Oh? And what race is pislam?
What race is Islam?
What is racist about it??!!
To racialize Islam is to deceive yourself and the entire world.
How is this racist lulu
There are plenty of murderous white Bosnian muslims. Islam is not a race it is however a cult that hates and wants to annihilate all who do not adhere to it. Islam is the most racist organization on planet earth so people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Even if every single Muslim was white, Islam would still be a threat to the West.
If you don’t know that, then you have no education at all.
My daughter was threatened with rape by a Muslim exchange student who thought that since she did not go to school in her parents city that it was acceptable. He called her a “houri” which terrified us. Did not happen as my daughter immediately called us and we were on it like flies but, YES, they absolutely believe rape is ok if it’s a non muslim girl! Their attitude towards non muslim women and women in general is what has me most frightened as a woman, and the mother of a daughter. I still have nightmares over this incident and it happened 6 years ago.
Sorry to hear that. Did this happen in America?
Yes
I am sorry that your daughter was threatened. It sounds like a harrowing experience. Please do not judge all Muslims by it. Rape is NEVER OK.
Then condemn Mohammad.
In one of your countries my daughter would have been raped then stoned to death for having been raped. Stay away from our daughters and may the real God help you if you ever come near our daughter again!
The attitude you describe is typical of the use of rape in warfare.
Islam is at war.
Ishmael’s hand is against everyone else.
The scriptures were never more true than now.
The Qur’an says to leave the women that your right hand possess alone if they do not consent. The Qur’an was revealed during a time when EVERYONE had slaves and it protected slaves and gave them rights. Muslims do not own or trade slaves now so the passages relating to “those your right hands possess,” are not used. This is a perfect example of false propaganda. 🙂
Prove it, and Islam allows slavery which Muslims are still engaged in it these days.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/11/fitzgerald-black-africa-and-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade.html
Islamic Law allows the taking of sex slaves, and the Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times, as per Koran verse 33:21.
Don’t just come here and make statements without proof. Your word will not be taken.
Every religion made slavery legal. It was the way of things. Now, today, slavery is illegal and slave dealers/traffickers are mostly Christian…. The Qur’an regulated slavery. Here is an example:
“Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His Grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them (such a deed) if ye know any good in them: (yea) give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them). 24:33
Slavery is not legal here, but it is legal under Islam. States made slavery legal, and anyway no other religion is on a worldwide movement trying to impose a barbaric set of religious laws on all.
No Religion, not even Islam. 🙂 Muslims do not own slaves and therefore do not possess anyone in their right hand. Most Muslims are poor and law abiding. They would buy people lied to, tricked and captured against their will from people they do not know exist.
Now you are just lying, because I just provided the evidence that Islam allows slavery. Muslims do own slaves.
Saudi Arabia is a destination country for men and women trafficked for the purposes of involuntary servitude and, to a lesser extent, commercial sexual exploitation. Men and women from Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Sudan, Ethiopia, and many other countries voluntarily travel to Saudi Arabia as domestic servants or other low-skilled laborers, but some subsequently face conditions indicative of involuntary servitude, including restrictions on movement, withholding of passports, threats, physical or sexual abuse, and non-payment of wages. Women, primarily from Asian and African countries are also believed to have been trafficked into Saudi Arabia for commercial sexual exploitation; others were reportedly kidnapped and forced into prostitution after running away from abusive employers.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm
Right, like Safiya “consented” after Mohammad and his men killed her husband.
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 437:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet came to Khaibar and when Allah made him victorious and he conquered the town by breaking the enemy’s defense, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtab was mentioned to him and her husband had been killed while she was a bride. Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself and he set out in her company till he reached Sadd-ar-Rawha’ where her menses were over and he married her. Then Hais (a kind of meal) was prepared and served on a small leather sheet (used for serving meals). Allah’s Apostle then said to me, “Inform those who are around you (about the wedding banquet).” So that was the marriage banquet given by Allah’s Apostle for (his marriage with) Safiya. After that we proceeded to Medina and I saw that Allah’s Apostle was covering her with a cloak while she was behind him. Then he would sit beside his camel and let Safiya put her feet on his knees to ride (the camel).
The Saudis do in fact own slaves about 3 years ago one of the princes killed one in an elevator in London
I am a Muslim woman so I must make something clear. NOTHING SAYS YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE WHO DON’T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU. The war captive slaves, “who your right hands possess are lawful to have relations with, without marriage…not lawful without consent.
You are woman who is in serious need of help, because you are trying to justify rape. Just because the taking of sex slaves is legal under Islam, does not make it OK.
Right, they gave their consent to be war captive slaves….
LOL… WHO SAYS THEY WERE SEX SLAVES! Maids do things other than having ses, I think…right LMAO…. Who is justifying rape that is such an aggregious accusation.
Laugh all you want, but the Islamic scriptures say they are sex slaves, and all you have been doing is trying to justify it. Once again I will ask you, are you afraid to criticize Islam? Do you really believe anyone but a Muslim is going to believe they wanted to have sex with someone who just took them as a prisoner? Prisoner is not consent.
The meaning of what “right hands possess” is explained in Islamic Law, the Koran, and the ahadith.
“The Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law”
This book has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the highest learning Islamic school in the world.
Justice Chapter: Jihad
THE RULES OF WARFARE
o9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.
This is backed up by other Koran verses.
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YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
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YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
While Islam does not consider this rape, it sure sounds like kidnapping, slavery, and rape to me.
The ahadith even go into more detail on how Mohammad approved of him, and his merry men raping women.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and
we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
By Mohammad’s words we can see that he did not care that his men raped the women, nor did he care if the women were impregnated by their rapist. What a guy.
After raiding a town and defeating the “enemy”, Mohammad picked a female captive of his own.
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 437:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet came to Khaibar and when Allah made him victorious and he conquered the town by breaking the enemy’s defense, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtab was mentioned to him and her husband had been killed while she was a bride. Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself and he set out in her company till he reached Sadd-ar-Rawha’ where her menses were over and he married her. Then Hais (a kind of meal) was prepared and served on a small leather sheet (used for serving meals). Allah’s Apostle then said to me, “Inform those who are around you (about the wedding banquet).” So that was the marriage banquet given by Allah’s Apostle for (his marriage with) Safiya. After that we proceeded to Medina and I saw that Allah’s Apostle was covering her with a cloak while she was behind him. Then he would sit beside his camel and let Safiya put her feet on his knees to ride (the camel).
Are we really supposed to believe that Safiya willingly married Mohammad, after him and his army killed her husband? Only a blind following Muslim would believe that.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 513:
Narrated ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Suhaib:
Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet took Safiya as a captive. He manumitted her and married her.” Thabit asked Anas, “What did he give her as Mahr (i.e. marriage gift)?” Anas replied. “Her Mahr was herself, for he manumitted her.”
Here we read of the official rape, of what was obviously a petrified girl. (She was a Jewish girl that was 17 at the time.)
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.
So, manumit means to give a slave their freedom, right? So she was a captured slave and then the Prophet spent 3 days with her. We do not know what they did did, but he gave her her freedom after the three days and married her…. What is wrong with that?
One more time, only a Muslim like yourself who is afraid to criticize Islam would believe that she really wanted to be with him. He just killed her husband!
So, without rape, how do the Christian women “feel themselves to be subdued”?
How are Westerners to give you and Islam the proper respect (because you are arrogant) if your men cannot rape them and their children without fear of legal reprisal?
Islam is the rule of fear.
And rape and sexual captivity are central in the creation of fear.
As are the kidnapping of young boys.
The murder of men.
The hanging of, oh, say, a Christian woman in Pakistan.
Fear is the game of Islam; the only game it knows.
I think peope in countries that have been bombed would say that about those who bombed them… Don’t you agree?
You’re trying to address U.S. policy concerning the wasteful and foolish wars in Afghanistan, Somalia and Iraq.
While I believe that some kind of retailiation is in order for them, I would prefer to choose the ground and time for it as much as possible.
I just want to say this:
I’d rather be killed (and I don’t care by what means) than submit to Islam or live under Islamic rule. Period.
They are not living in their own homes….they rely on their enemies for protection…wouldn’t that make you ‘feel subdued’…. Frankly, I am not even sure if “feeling subdued” was necessary.
Ah, but it is.
Your own scriptures command it.
…which scripture commands the conquering and subduing of women? LOL
Verse 9:29 calls for the domination of Christians and Jews.
Mohammad also did not care if the women became pregnant after being raped. This is a man YOU support.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and
we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
1st, I must question the source of this Hadith.
2nd: The Prophet seemed in it to recommend that they do not coitus interruptus (Iam assuming this means, have relations with) their captives because if they do they may make a baby. Muslims believe that all souls are predetermined to exist in this world at a specific date and time…. So, the Prophet is saying don’t because you may make a baby…
1. The hadith is from Sahih Bukhari. When you know more about Islam than he did let me know. When you have more respect in the Islamic world than he does, let me know. For the 3rd time, are you afraid to criticize Islam?
2. Mohammad was telling his men it is OK to ejaculate in them. Therefore he did not care if they were made pregnant. So you are not even close to bring correct.
Coitus interruptus, also known as withdrawal or the pull-out method, is a birth-control technique in which a man withdraws his penis from a woman prior to ejaculation during intercourse, with the semen being ejaculated away from the vagina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coitus_interruptus
I am still questioning the validity of the Hadith because all Sahih Bukhari Hadith are proceded by a list of narrators and reporters… In this Hadith “I” could be anyone. Also, the Prophet recommended against all forms of birth control. :)For the same reasons that I said, predestined birth. Further, if a slave got pregnanat it stand to reason that the person who slept with her would be responsible for taking care of her.
…that being said I stand corrected on coitus interruptus.
Also, on the matter of Safiyah, most marriages in those days were arranged, no matter what the eligion or cultural group. You are assuming she loved and respected her husband. That is a cultural assumption.
It says right in the post who the narrator is.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
Now you trying to justify women getting pregnant after they were raped.
Right, she wanted her husband murdered. The verses I have posted show that Mohammad was a rapist. Yet you support him.
Do you think the Prophet is not telling them don’t have sexwith the women at all becaus of the possible predetermined birth.
He is no prophet, and he was telling them to have sex with them. How about you stop trying to justify these sick actions?
Hadith came years after Muhammad died they have to have a train of narrators.
I just showed you the narrator.
So like you think they are gonna say yeah ok why not? Are you nuts?
Prophets and God’s messengers in the Bible had slaves that they had sexual relations with. Is Abraham a rapist?
I believe that God’s messengers in the Bible and the Qur’an were good men.
The message of Jesus and the message of Mohammad are not the same. You have just clearly defended a rapist.
Was Mohammad perfect? Is Islam perfect?
God is perfect, I believe in Abraham’s God and I believe that he created all things. I did a presentation on what Muslims believe. It is on Scribd it is called Islam and Muslims. It will tell you what I believe. 🙂
Stop with the games, I did not ask you if God is perfect. I asked you if Islam and Mohammad are perfect.
Jesus never owned a slave.
Never.
What was the difference between slave-owning in Biblical times (before Islam) and slave-owning in Hellenistic and Medieval times? Do you know it?
What is the difference between the fraternal slavery of Africa and the slavery practiced in the here and now by Muslims.
The Muslim slave trade is alive and well. From what I hear, it’s really a growth industry with all these kuffar around!
I know that slave ownership in Islamic times allowed slaves to maintain their dignity and to be recognized as individuals that had a right to their own persons and that one could not “transgress boundaries” when dealing with them. I know that when the European conquest of Africa began and the trans-Atlantic slave system developed. Africans were dehumanized into livestock and a very cruel and sadistic form of slavery began. It is this cruel and sadistic form of slavery that made everyone eventually abolish slavery all together. Of course that is a thousand years of history summed up into a few sentences.
You’ve done fine with it, and yes, there is a thick line to be drawn between the Transatlantic slave trade, 1300-1888 and the Muslim slave trade which has existed for as long as Islam has.
Unlike the Transatlantic slave trade, the Muslim slave trade has no racist element. That means anyone can be a slave in the Muslim world, and white Europeans were.
The enslavement of Muslim society has but one objective– the forcing of conversion. Though there might be certain “regulations” on slavery, the fact remains that the slave is property. He is bought and sold.
He is essentially, a man who has been stolen from himself.
A women who has been stolen from herself.
Wherever there is slavery, there is also violence. All slavery is based on violence, the taking of captives, the forcing of the individual into commodification. Slavery is also maintained through violence, because it is necessary to impose the rule of fear on the slave so he does not escape.
And if he should, the retailation must be lethal or near-lethal to frighten others away from a similar course of action.
To favor slavery is anti-modern, anti-Western now. The West abandoned slavery.
Islam did and has not.
The Bible is made up of stories of those times, while the Koran states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times. As per Koran verse 33:21.
That is not true the Qur’an says even in your version of 33:50 that somethigs are just for Prophet Muhammad
That verse proves his is a rapist.
Ask Hagar.
The answer lies even not with God, but with HER.
Muslims, in the Middle Ages, were called the Hagarenes by Westerners.
Incidentally I am American of no other decent than Americans. My parents built this country. I know that the Roman empre was divided in 2 and historians still called the Eastern Roman and Western Roman Empires…
Yes.
But what are the differences between the two?
Certainly you know how the West and East changed separately.
A lot intervened between them to make them different, and every attempt to re-unite them was destructive.
The slave trade is a live and well. I fyou want to fight slavery visit polarisproject.org and humantrafficking.org You will learn that this has nothing to do with Islam but that we all have to work together to save people who are routinely kidnapped and forced into prostitution.
The slave trade, I have to add here, is a feature of Muslim societies, but has gone far beyond them.
You understand that a society’s progress should be judged not by what the society has kept, but by what the society has abandoned to history.
I already proved that Islam allows slavery.
Muslim country Muritania only outlawed slavery in the 60’s A rod for beating the slave came with the slave. The Arabs who moved into Muitania several centuries ago held the black population as slaves. Although slavery was outlawed to appease the world it is still openly praciced and slaves who got away are not saying there were any boundaries or protection in their treatment they say they were less than cattle. You liitle lady are eating the lies of him what converted you into the cult,
There is a major sex trade slave case incourt in England right now all of the perps were mo’s and all of the girls were very young white English girls. Sex trafficking of young white English girls by the muslim scum who have colonized England is rampant.
ISLAM IS SO RETARDED THAT IT DESTROYS ITS OWN WOMEN AND GIRLS AND BOYS. IT IS CLEARLY DESTRUCTIVE.
MUHAMMAD WAS A PERVERTED SEX ADDICT.
COMPARE THAT TO JESUS CHRIST – WHO WAS SINLESS!
Don’t forget that they can’t seem to leave the goats alone, either.
Just read “I Am Nujood, Age 10 and Divorced” By third grader Nujood Ali
Nujood’s father continually justified marrying off his ten-year-old daughter by pointing to the example of Muhammad, who married Aisha when she was but six, and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old. Some apologists insist that Muhammad didn’t marry her until she was nine, but Aisha’s own words, found in Bint al-Shati’s The Wives of Prophet Muhammad, tell a different story.
“The Prophet married me when I was six years old and the marriage was consummated when I was nine. The Prophet of God came to our home in company with men and women who were among his followers. My mother came [to me] while I was in a swing between the branches of a tree and made me come down. She smoothed my hair, wiped my face with a little water then came forward and led me to the door. She stopped me while I calmed myself a little. Then she took me in. The Prophet of God was sitting on a bed in our home, and she sat me in his lap. Everyone jumped up and went out, and the Prophet consummated his marriage with me at our house.”
It is time people stopped justifying this as a cultural/religious custom, and call it what it is: a crime against women & children that continues today, 1400 years after it was given credence by a man who claimed to be godly.
Best Islam-awareness website I have ever read!
Hello Jennifer!
Thank you very much, I truly appreciate that!
Have a great weekend.
First of all I would just like to say I really don’t understand your point!! Ok u don’t like islam yh then why don’t u keep ur opinions to urself and if ur ganna give a whole crap on how this is a free country and we have freedom of speech then plz allow it cuz if I didn’t like u does that give me a right to come up to u and tell you to get out the country cuz I don’t like u?? Would any human actually go ahead and do that?? No because although we have freedom of speech we have our limits and whtever religion anybody chooses that is their decision So please would u explain to me the purpose of this website!! And secondly how does any of this prove islam permits rape? Please read carefully all it says is you can have a relation with ur slave and it mentions the prophet had relation with his WIFE however old is nothing concerning you! And even if islam permitted or did not permit something IT HAS NoThing to do with u and affects u in no way!! It affects NONE of YOU
I’ll say what I want. If you cannot deal with free speech that is on you. Islamic Law does affect non-Muslims.
Yes it does affect us because you want to force your barba ric sharia on us and that shit comes with sharia so yes it does affrct us. Go back to your muslim hell hole!
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And even if islam permitted or did not permit something IT HAS NoThing to do with u and affects u in no way!! It affects NONE of YOU
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It’s not a matter of what we do or do not like.
Feelings are not rights.
Feelings are not facts.
The facts are that Islam is a militant, proselytizing and even conquering religion.
Its past is one of conquest.
The imperatives of the Quran are quite clear– destroy the infidel.
Do not take part in his culture.
Do not make him your friend.
If Islam is the truth, then why are you so unhappy?
Unhappy enough to come here where people are trying to preserve the West against the great Oriental monster and make trouble.
You have shown much more aggression than we.
We have not come to a pro-Islam site to spread our version of the truth.
Why can’t you be grateful for the peace we give you instead of coming here to conquer?
I did not come here to conquer I came her cuz my religion is being defamed and just like if u found out I swore at u or ur family member u would come rushing to find me to shout at me just like that when I found out u were defaming and disgracing my god and my messenger I felt it was my right to speak out! And believe me I am much happier then any of u on this website could ever be becuz I don’t spread hate I spread peace I don’t go around critisising others and their god
Your “Religion” is not being defamed on this site. The truth is not defamtion. The quotes used on this site are straight from the Qur’an and Hadith, sometimes the Reliance of the Traveler.
As long as Muslims try to spread Islam by the sword, or by Sharia, websites like this will continue to grow. As long as Muslims scream for the destruction of Israel sites like this will grow.
You speak of freedom of speech, yet Sharia doesn’t allow freedom of speech. You speak of freedom of Religion yet Muslim countries don’t allow freedom of Religion. Sharia doesn’t allow freedom of Religion. What happens to Apostates under Sharia Law and in many Muslim countries? Death. You know it, I know it, and the readers on this site know it.
Ok so ur telling me if I take out the word kill from the bible or whatever book u follow and say oh look gid is telling christians to kill is that justified?? Does that prove god tells christians to kill?? No it does not in that same way u guys have picked out a few words in the quran and picked up a few words from the hadith to use against islam. And please if u have anything to say against islam go research it first because yes islam does allow freedom of speech there are many many non muslims living a happy life in muslim countries and islam was not spread by the sword. What sword is it that we use nowadays to convert these millions and billions of people??
PROVE me wrong about Islam on your next post. I do not have time to waste.
If your god and your messenger were truly holy, then nothing we write here would make any difference.
Your attempts to defend your supposedly holy god and prophet indicate you don’t really believe in their transcendence.
If anything, your own faith is weak.
I’m not defending my religion for my peace of mind I am defending my religion because my god and hid prophet are so pure they don’t deserv to be talked about with these filthy words and to be honest with u I don’t need to do this because I no my god Is real but then I have the inhumanity in me to try and take all of u out of ur misunderdtandings but if u don’t want to listen then it doesn’t at all affect me and I know my faith is everything but weak
Rapists like Mohammad are not pure. Do you actually think I have not heard from Muslims before? Save the con for someone else.
I never told you that your deity was not real.
I said it was an elemental spirit of the world and not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
And as an elemental spirit, it’s quite real. And quite threatening to everything that is spiritually holy.
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And you claim we live in the House of War?!!
What peace has Islam spread to the Coptic Christians in Egypt?
What peace has Islam given to the Christians at Our Lady of Salvation Church?
What peace has Islam given to Asia Bibi?
The peace of Islam is death.
Shabaz Bhatti is proof of that.
The innocent 17-year-old in Africa who was murdered by Al-Shabaab is proof again.
The only peace conferred by Islam is that of the grave.
By the way, what I wrote above is scripturally based on the Letters of Paul and most of the NT. Every Christian who knows his Bible, his way around the prayers and doctrines of Christianity and compared them with the content of Muslim scripture would write exactly what I’ve written.
Christians do not hate Mussulmen. But they do hold the religion apart from themselves, their culture, and their own faith, and every one would say that Islam is profane.
Even Christians living in the midst of Muslims say so.
So you haven’t frightened anyone into believing or loving you.
If anything, the response to Muslim threat and force will be nothing but bitter at best, violent at worst.
And this is the way it will remain.
The Ummah will HAVE TO KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF US to make the world one.
There is no unity in diversity.
Perhaps Muslims think that they have free reign to rape those that don’t believe in their pagan demon deity, and that they have the right to treat all kafirs, dhimmis, and other non-Mulims with the utmost of disrespect. Below are just a few links to the exploits of the dregs of human waste. It is even worse in Muslim countries where women have no recourse and may end up in prison while the male rapists go free. These pond scum rapists will receive a proper reward, either in this life or the next. Their demonic allah will not be able to save them then!!!
This is Islam!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-03-19/uk-muslim-preacher-jailed–for-rape/1077054
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/7465198.stm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=57c_1215574843
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/05/muslim-guilty-o.html
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/05/the-below-is-a.html
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/09/women-get-punched-and-raped-for-saying-no-to-muslim-men.html
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/01/8-more-muslim-paedophiles-arrested-in-child-sex-ring-teleford.html
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/10/muslim-pack-of-animals-jailed-for-rape-of-16-yr-old-british-girl.html
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/06/more-disgusting-muslim-pedos-arrested-for-grooming-pimping-british-girls.html
No answer, IITT?
None?
I’m not even going to bother reading any of those articles u no what all that may have happened but that does not mean islam tells thm to go do it it just proves they have been led astray just like there are good and bad people in every community there are good and bad people in islam and if a person does something bad u can’t automatically blame the religion!!! And the god of abraham is our God we believe in all the prophets the jews and chritians believe in and we honour them all!!
In other words you cannot prove me wrong about Islam. The Jesus of Islam is CLEARLY not the Jesus of Christianity.
https://loganswarning.com/2011/05/01/what-islam-really-says-about-jesus-and-his-return/
It is comical how many Muslims come here with the same con. Get a new playbook.
Are you a UK traitor convert to Islam?
You don’t honor Jesus. You deny Him. You deny He died on the Cross. You deny He was Resurrected. You are the antichrist. There is NO honor in Islam.
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And the god of abraham is our God we believe in all the prophets the jews and chritians believe in and we honour them all!!
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A lie, a lie, and a lie.
You dishonor Abraham, all the prophets.
You dishonor the Son of God, and God himself.
You do so by killing his true worshippers.
You do so by conquering their lands.
You do so by raping their women and children.
And then, you claim to commit no sin.
Islam is profane.
According to Islâm, a woman has to be respected and protected under all circumstances, whether she belongs to your own nation or to the nation of an enemy, whether she follows your religion or belongs to some other religion or has no religion at all. A Muslim cannot outrage her under any circumstances. All promiscuous relationships have been forbidden to him, irrespective of the status or position of the woman, whether the woman is a willing or an unwilling partner to the act. The words of the Holy Qur’ân in this respect are: “Do not approach (the bounds of) adultery” (17:32). Heavy punishment has been prescribed for this crime, and the order has not been qualified by any conditions. Since the violation of chastity of a woman is forbidden in Islam, a Muslim who perpetrates this crime cannot escape punishment. (Maudoodi)
The Quran has, in various ways and in different contexts; impressed on men that they must observe the limits set by God (Hudûd Allah) in respect to women and must not encroach upon their rights in either marriage or divorce. In all situations it is the men who are reminded, corrected and reprimanded, over and over again, to be generous to women and to be kind, compassionate, fair and just in their dealings with women. Even in divorce, when the chances of anger and vindictiveness are high, it is stressed that men are to separate with grace, equity and generosity.
Forbidding cruelty against children and women is apparent from rulings against female infanticide and rights of inheritance given even to an unborn child; and the kindness mandated even when divorcing your wife. There are numerous ahâdîth about the rights of children to respect and dignity. The same holds true for respect and the unprecedented rights given to women.
Relevant verses from the Quran:
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
‘O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will…’
Sûrah an Nûr 24.33
‘… And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).
During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa’il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah’s messenger, who said to the woman, “Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you,” but of the man who had raped her, he said, “Stone him to death.” (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)
Muslim women have less rights than men in court testimony.
Muslim women cannot have more than one husband. While the husband can have 3 more wives.
Non-Muslim women can be raped as sex slaves.
From the Sahih Ahadith.
Bukhari Hadith Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated ‘Aisha:
The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, “You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.”
More women in hell then men.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
The Prophet said: “I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, ‘I have never received any good from you.”
Ask yourself, why the whole world bothered about muslim.This was excactly how god’s messengers were bothered.isn’t it.Sasa akili kumkichwa
No different than what Moses did to the Midianites!
TODAY Muslims are trying to bring Sharia Law into the West, and they are slowly doing it. How does you pointing back to centuries ago, deal with the threat of Islam today?
Thanks!
Christians unite!! before its to late! our grandchildren will be wondering why we sat around and did nothing to protect future generations. educate all…even the ignorant. make them see the message of love that OUR PROPHET the prophet of peace teaches. heck, if some of the arselifters would come around to christianity maybe they would get lucky with a beautiful Christian woman…
Tom Speigle, you have urged us to visit Iran and Saudi Arabia and talk to the people. Why? So that we can hear first hand of their appalling misery?
I despair on Friday evenings when I know that there are people who have had a hand amputated after Friday prayers and these people are kept waiting for medical treatment. I cannot reach them to comfort and compensate them.
I despair when I think of the kindly, humorous, loving gays who have been hanged from a high crane. I think of the great loss to this world and the ingratitude to these harmless people who have brought so much music, literature, art etc to this world.
Muslims, in typical insane style, harp on about the sexual immorality of Westerners. We choose what to do with our bodies. Muslims choose what to do with other people’s bodies and the level of cruelty and sexual filth is not allowed in Western countries.
Muslims demand respect. For what? Hanging gays, lying, raping little girls, genitally mutilating girl babies, marrying their cousins and producing deformed babies, automatically following the orders of insane imams instead of thinking for themselves?
You go to Iran and Saudi, Tom Speigle. Take your Muslim pals with you and stay there.
This site was… how do I say it? Relevant!!
Finally I have found something which helped me. Cheers!
Seems like you Love lying , these two authentic Hadiths reject your whole Myth of rape.
“Malik related to me from Ibn Shihab that Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan gave a judgment that the rapist had to pay the raped woman her bride- price.
Yahya said that he heard Malik say, “What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman. If the rapist is a slave, that is against his master unless he wishes to surrender him.” Malik related to me from Ibn Shihab that Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan gave a judgment that the rapist had to pay the raped woman her bride- price.
Yahya said that he heard Malik say, “What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman. If the rapist is a slave, that is against his master unless he wishes to surrender him. https://sunnah.com/urn/414630
“Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr:
When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (ﷺ) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her.
She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.
She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).
When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Messenger of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.
He (the Prophet) said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. But he told the man some good words (AbuDawud said: meaning the man who was seized), and of the man who had had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
He also said: He has repented to such an extent that if the people of Medina had repented similarly, it would have been accepted from them.
Abu Dawud said: Asbat bin Nasr has also transmitted it from Simak.” https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/29
Did you ever heard a muslim say that Catholicism was a religion of rape despite all the amount of rapes by catholics ?
Neither one of them address captives of war taken as sex slaves. Unfortunately that is not considered rape in Islam, but those with morals know it is. Thanks for you showing that you support slavery and stonings. Do you know what century we are in?
I condemn those pedo Priests and anyone who covered for them. But Jesus did not take sex slaves as your hero Mohammad did.
Sura 4:24 makes sex with captive women lawful. Catholicism, Christianity or what you’d like to call it does not have such guidance. Islam permits rape, not only does it permit it in adult women but children too. Kathir confirms this in the narration of Sura 65:4
In addition to the sanctioned rape within the Qu’ran we also see an example for both instances by Muhammad (as told in sura 33:21, in him is a good pattern to follow) His child bride was 6 when he married her, being the gent that he was he refrained from having sex until she was 9 up to then & during her tender years he would only fondle her.
After Safiyas killing family, he took her, married her then had sex with her. Of course any women that’s seen her father, her husband and her brothers bludgened to death would instantly want to marry and have sex with the killer, this was not passion this was rape!
I’ve heard the arguments that taking child brides was cultural for that time but, and here’s the crucial element in all this, the Quran is eternal and states clearly to obey allah and the messenger, it states clearly that Muhammad is a good pattern to follow, this is not a time bound passage, this is for all time.
The crimes committed by Muhammad are the most heinous known to man, this is a man, not a prophet held in high esteem by all Muslims. The man should have hung for what he did not immortalised and it sums up what is inherently wrong with Islam. I can’t reform it won’t reform but it needs demolishing,
Welcome to the site, and thanks for the repost!
Keep on speaking out!