Hey Zuhdi Jasser, MAN UP and Debate me….

I was told that self-professed “moderate” Muslim M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. had written an article for “American Thinker”, in which he attacked me, Pamela Geller, and Robert Spencer.

In a past article here, I stated that, when it comes to the subject of Islam, Jasser tries his best to stand by his “religion” and protect it. In his latest column, we seem more of the same.

Less amusing is the bottom line that Geller’s and Spencer’s genre is headed in only one direction-declaring an ideological war against one-fourth of the world’s population and expecting to neutralize the Islamist threat by asking Muslims to renounce their faith.

Not confronting Islam head-on is an obvious failed policy. It is the primary reason that we have the problem in our own backyard! A major part of this failed policy is believing that “moderate” Muslims are going to prevail and come to our rescue, bringing with them a reasonable approach to their religion and its doctrine coexisting with our Western values. It is NOT happening. How much more land does Islam have to dominate before we face this reality?

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5. Logan’s Warning pointed out recently that Jasser has no following among Muslims and doesn’t represent any Islamic tradition. So what’s the point?”

Geller regurgitates here the unsubstantiated ramblings of another blogger, Christopher Logan. Logan’s attack simply rehashes Geller’s previous fabrications declaring me not a Muslim. As to a following, our organization’s primary mission is ideological and it is not a membership based organization. Our mission is reform toward the separation of mosque and state in Islam.

“Unsubstantiated ramblings”? You might want to stop ducking my emails before you make such claims. Islamic Law dictates who is a Muslim, NOT YOU. Do you deny Koran verse 9:29 which calls for the domination of non-Muslims?

Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

If so, you are an apostate of Islam.

This is proven in the “Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law” which has the stamp of approval of Egypt’s Al Azhar. Al Azhar is the pinnacle institution of Islamic learning worldwide.

APOSTASY FROM ISLAM (RIDDA)FRGACTS THAT ENTAIL LEAVING ISLAM

(7) to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or do add a verse that does not belong to it;

Do you claim to know more about Islam than Al Azhar? Do you have more influence across the Islamic world than they do? Zuhdi goes on to say…

Even with that, and all of the other obstacles toward change not least of which Geller’s genre creates for rational Muslims, we have over 200 Muslim supporters and over 2000 non-Muslim supporters.

Where is your proof? Name just one U.S. Mosque that supports your so called reform movement. You founded the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD)in 2003, and even if you do have 200 “Muslim” supporters it just shows that your organization is a failure.

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The National Journal positioned the debate very well in a report last July 31, 2010 titled “Reformers vs. Revivalists.” This debate, this clash, is the one on which we must take sides. Hopefully, some day Geller and Spencer (and others who agree with them) will realize that any mantra or strategy that pits the West or America against all Muslims, or Islam, is what is actually “doomed to failure” – not Rep. King’s hearings.

Once again, we see the Dr. take a stand for Islam…he does an excellent job of speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

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Encouraging this debate will involve a paradigm-shift for some, to look seriously at the work of many Muslim reformers, rather than dismissing us out of hand with scurrilous, inflammatory false accusations and character assassinations. Our work is not just based upon our own ideas but a lifetime of real-world experience with fellow Muslims and reform-minded scholars who believe and practice the same reform-minded Islam. Yes, we have a lot of work to do, but this discussion needs thoughtful, scientific approaches to Muslim communities about the ideas they harbor, rather than off-hand dismissals that allow Islamists to speak for all Muslims and the faith of Islam.

Oh, Zuhdi, I am not dismissing you with false accusations; I am, however, dismissing you for two valid reasons. The first is that YOU do not get to dictate what Islam is… That is the proprietary job of the Islamic scriptures. According to the Koran, mere man cannot change its words.

Koran verse 010.064
YUSUFALI: For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity.

The Koran also states that Mohammad was the last of the prophets. This is referred to as the Seal of the Prophets.

Koran verse 033.040
YUSUFALI: Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

The second reason I dismiss you is that the Islamic community does not give a hoot what you have to say.

I will close this post with the comment I posted for Jasser on “American Thinker”:

Why don’t you back up your comments with some facts? Why don’t you tell the readers how you have continually ducked my emails? Including this one…. The ACT! Team Runs Away From Zuhdi Jasser Debate?

The ACT! Team Runs Away From Zuhdi Jasser Debate

If you have something to say about me, at least man up and talk to me directly.

“Geller regurgitates here the unsubstantiated ramblings of another blogger, Christopher Logan”.

My “unsubstantiated ramblings” are backed up by Egypt’s Al Azhar, widely considered the highest school of Islamic learning in the world, and you are? The following statement is from the Reliance of Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Law. Which has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar.

APOSTASY FROM ISLAM
ACTS THAT ENTAIL LEAVING ISLAM

(7) to deny any verse of the Koran or anything by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it.

If you deny Islamic Law Jasser….

Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

YOU are an apostate. Now I challenge you to name just ONE Mosque that supports you…. I am NOT FOX News….don’t talk about me, unless you are willing to debate me Jasser.

This column will be mailed to my friend Jasser as well. Lets see if he will man up!

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