Muslim in US Army Proselytizing on Logan’s Warning

This is part II to the “My Debate with US Army Member Koshin Mohamed~ Part I”, article.  In this article we are going to start with another comment from Koshin.

koshin mohamed on December 27, 2010 at 11:18 pm
We worship Allah (God) who needs no one to be friend with or seek alliance. The one who created the world and its content including Humans. We don’t worship the Quran, it is the message of God and prophet Mohamed was his messenger.

The fact that the Quran is its original text shows ownership of the author prophet Mohamed. No other human is involve it teachings. Please read for reference the Quran, the science and the Bible if you want to read more accurate perspective from former Christian, scientist who the Vatican sponsored in its effort to expose that the Quran is full of errors and contradictions against known scientific facts.

Regarding Shari’a: It is driven from the Quran and has different schools of thought. It is not easy to explain someone like you who think Muslims worship the Quran.

I can confidently defend the Islam violence committed its name whatever you call it, is and was more reasonable than the Christians committed in Jesus Name. You call it the Cruzeders, the Nazis, the Slavery, the extermination of the Indian tribes, and the colonization of Africa and even used a nuclear bomb against civilians in Nikazaka and Horishima kiling hundreds of thousands of people and injuring more than that…for hundreds of years Christian committed crimes against humanity. McVey or whatever his name is, used Jesus as Justification his atrosities against innocent Americans in Oklahoma.

Al Qaida killed about 3000 thousand
people about 300 Muslims in 9/11. The rest of the atrocities committed in Islam is not even significant when compared to Christian. So, if you are calling yourself Christian, please don’t try to insult our intelligence and claim perfect religion. Christian can’t lecture anyone in this world about civilization and morals…Please. However, I do believe Christianity and Jesus are respectable and its teaching is not what Christians today regardless of their dominion reach about Jesus(peace be upon him). We believe he will come back and tell the Christian phase that they lied about him.

I am not defending the actions of any criminal regardless of their so called religion or their race, but Muslims are European, African, Isian, and whatever race you can think of and all worship God and only God, not Mohamed or the Quran.

For Quick lesson of What Islam is:
Question: “What is Islam, and what do Muslims believe?”

Islam is a religious system begun in the seventh century by Muhammad. Muslims follow the teachings of the Qur’an and strive to keep the Five Pillars.

The History of Islam
In the seventh century, Muhammad claimed the angel Gabriel visited him. During these angelic visitations, which continued for about 23 years until Muhammad’s death, the angel purportedly revealed to Muhammad the words of Allah (the Arabic word for “God” used by Muslims). These dictated revelations compose the Qur’an, Islam’s holy book. Islam means “submission,” deriving from a root word that means “peace.” The word Muslim means “one who submits to Allah.”

The Doctrine of Islam
Muslims summarize their doctrine in six articles of faith:
1. Belief in one Allah: Muslims believe Allah is one, eternal, creator, and sovereign.
2. Belief in the angels
3. Belief in the prophets: The prophets include the biblical prophets but end with Muhammad as Allah’s final prophet.
4. Belief in the revelations of Allah: Muslims accept certain portions of the Bible, such as the Torah and the Gospels. They believe the Qur’an is the preexistent, perfect word of Allah.
5. Belief in the last day of judgment and the hereafter: Everyone will be resurrected for judgment into either paradise or hell.
6. Belief in predestination: Muslims believe Allah has decreed everything that will happen. Muslims testify to Allah’s sovereignty with their frequent phrase, inshallah, meaning, “if God wills.”

The Five Pillars of Islam
These five tenets compose the framework of obedience for Muslims:
1. The testimony of faith (shahada): “la ilaha illa allah. Muhammad rasul Allah.” This means, “There is no deity but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” A person can convert to Islam by stating this creed. The shahada shows that a Muslim believes in Allah alone as deity and believes that Muhammad reveals Allah.
2. Prayer (salat): Five ritual prayers must be performed every day.
3. Giving (zakat): This almsgiving is a certain percentage given once a year.
4. Fasting (sawm): Muslims fast during Ramadan in the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. They must not eat or drink from dawn until sunset.
5. Pilgrimage (hajj): If physically and financially possible, a Muslim must make the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia at least once. The hajj is performed in the twelfth month of the Islamic calendar.

A Muslim’s entrance into paradise hinges on obedience to these Five Pillars. Still, Allah may reject them. Even Muhammad was not sure whether Allah would admit him to paradise (Surah 46:9; Hadith 5.266).

An Evaluation of Islam
Compared to Christianity, Islam has some similarities but significant differences. Like Christianity, Islam is monotheistic. However, Muslims reject the Trinity—that God has revealed Himself as one in three Persons: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Muslims claim that Jesus was a mere prophet—not God’s Son. Islam asserts that Jesus, though born of a virgin, was created like Adam. Many Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the cross. They do not understand why Allah would allow His prophet Isa (the Islamic word for “Jesus”) to die a torturous death. Yet the Bible shows how the death of the perfect Son of God was essential to pay for the sins of believers (Isaiah 53:5-6; John 3:16; 14:6; 1 Peter 2:24).

Islam teaches that the Qur’an is the final authority and the last revelation of Allah. The Bible, however, was completed in the first century with the Book of Revelation. The Bible warns against anyone adding to or subtracting from God’s Word (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6; Galatians 1:6-12; Revelation 22:18). The Qur’an, as a claimed addition to God’s Word, directly disobeys God’s command.

Muslims believe that paradise can be earned through keeping the Five Pillars. The Bible, in contrast, reveals that sinful man can never measure up to the holy God (Romans 3:23; 6:23). Only by God’s grace may sinners be saved through repentant faith in Jesus (Acts 20:21; Ephesians 2:8-9).

Because of these essential differences and contradictions, Islam and Christianity cannot both be true. The Bible and Qur’an cannot both be God’s Word. The truth has eternal consequences.

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world” (1 John 4:1-4; see also John 3:35-36).

If you really want to know more about Islam you can also Google the Deens show to find Christian perspective of Islam.

Hope this will do.

As you can see Koshin is in full proselytization mode, and continues to make false statements like the one about lowlife Timothy McVeigh, using Jesus as his justification for terrorism. The following was my next response to him.

admin on December 27, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Christians are not on a worldwide movement trying to subjugate all under a barbaric set of religious laws, and good work on avoiding what Sharia is. Sharia also allows slavery, and in case Koshin didn’t notice, Western Laws are against it.
Of course you leave out the verses that are threatening to non-Muslims. Please let me know when you actually refute my statements about Islam.

Once again, do you condemn Sharia Law?

Now we will see him get even more desperate, as he expects us to believe the Bukhari Ahadith are meaningless. I guess Koshin is the spokesperson for the Islamic world.

koshin mohamed on December 27, 2010 at 11:48 pm
common please, Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:Narrated Abu Huraira: Whatever, these gentleman said is not important in our 21 century. Even though I will try to get the original Arabic text to see in what context they made these statement.

First, at the time Islam was at war and it was a new religion and its followers were out numbered. And yes, to terrorize your enemies is justified in war. We do that even today in Afghanistan when we face the Talaban. We surprise them with lethal force, destroy them before they even know what hits them. In fact we do terrorize our enemies as Americans. But, in the context of Terrorism to kill civilians and non combatant is criminal and unjustified even though some of our soldiers committed such crimes and prosecuted in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Islam do not permit as i said earlier to terrorize civilians and not combatant and treats prisoners of war well way before the Geneva convention. Please give credit Muhamed and Muslims as the founders of modern conduct of war. Europeans mainly Christian recognized humanity after Geneva convention and you know it. Islam 1500 years ago, authored the Geneva convention articles. Please read the history of Islam before you equate low life terrorist and radical criminals who have no place in civilized world.

If you think over 1.5 billion people in the world are the enemy of Christians and Jews, you are wrong. Go see Jews in even in Iran how they live and how confortable they are as Jews and the Christians who live in Iran. If Iranians were simply hateful of Jews and Christians, it was impossible for them live with Muslims.

Don’t mix the geopolitical affairs of the world and the believe systems. They are different and no Muslim I know in his right mind and believe Islam can simply hate his neighbors simply they are Christian or Jew or Whatever. Muslims in America and Western Europe proofed that.

If there is a hateful people in this planet, it is the racist, the KKKs, and Al Qaida and like minded people who support their wicked Ideology to divide and communities.

Wow Mohammad, calling your fellow soldiers terrorists. You might want to stop talking…

admin on December 28, 2010 at 12:00 am
Really, well for one Al Azhar thinks it is important, and so do Mosques across America. Which I can prove. First you implied Islam does not allow terrorism, now you are trying to spin it. So which is it Koshin?

Who are you, that anyone should believe a word that you say? You bring nothing but your word here.

Yes, lets give Mohammad credit for allowing his men to rape captives of war. That is so modern. I also showed the verses that OK terrorism. But you expect people to take your word, over the Islamic scriptures.

Islam 101: The Religion of Rape

The Jews of Iran

1948 Jewish population: 100,000
2004: ~20,000-25,0001

I have read the history of Islam. Would you like to start with the Coptics, Hindus or Persians? Non-Muslims are persecuted across the Islamic world. Show me the Islamic movement against this.

Sad Fate of Iran’s Jews

http://www.payvand.com/news/10/may/1135.html

The Jews of Iran

1948 Jewish population: 100,000
2004: ~20,000-25,0001

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

Let me know when you have more about Islam than Sahih Bukhari. Are you the next writer of a hadith?

For the 3rd time, do you condemn Sharia Law?

At this point he decided to focuse squarely on me, instead of my comments.

koshin mohamed on December 28, 2010 at 12:08 am
Unlike you who accidentally born United States and enjoys the blood and the sweat our military paid for our freedom, I joined the military in time of war and have combat budge. Sorry, people like you make me sick. Tell me how many times you were in in combat defending America or American soldiers? How many times you risked your life to defend America? Tell me who you are when you question the loyalty of Americans simply they believe different religion than yours? I am not lowering myself your standards but I am just reminding anyone who may be reading your messages to ask simple question. Regardless, were my national origin is, overwhelming Americans know it, my battle bodies know it, and most importantly any Christian knows we Muslims are not threat to America.

You question people based on their religion and national origin and don’t even know who you are in relation to them, what they are doing for United States.

Please start writing your short sighted article and never try to challenge personally those defending you freedom regardless of their religion or national origin.

In part I, I pointed out why Koshin wanted to go overseas. But here it is again.

In a video interview of Koshin, he states that he joined the US Military “to see Muslim communities served by American soldiers”. His concern was how Muslims overseas are being treated by US Soldiers. This interview can be seen HERE.

My final response to the Islamic conman was this.

admin on December 28, 2010 at 12:14 am
I respect military members but not you, and I really do not care what you think of me. You are a Islamic propaganda machine, who has shown his true colors here. You also don’t speak for Christians. The WOT is not defending the freedoms of America, and that is because Islam is being allowed to advance across America. This is not the fault of the troops, that is because Bush was uniformed on Islam and Obama is pro-Islamic. Obviously you cannot deal with people criticizing your religion, that is on you, and I can only image how many US Military members you have lied to about Islam. But you might want to open your eyes, and you will see the country is finally waking up to the threat of Islam.

Do you condemn Sharia Law?

After reading parts I and II, I have to ask the readers one question. Considering Koshin’s reason for wanting to go overseas, him calling US Soldiers terrorists, him criticizing how the war with Japan was handled, his non-stop attempted defense of Islam, him continually ducking my question about Sharia Law, and finally his statement that he will join the jihad if America “insults” Islam, does he seem pro-American to you?

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