Muslim’s 16 Point Plan on Trying to Silence us by Using the Term “Islamophobia”~ Action Needed!

In attempt to scare off those who speak the truth about Islam, Muslims and their supporters continually toss out the term “Islamophobia”. The other day a Muslim posted a link to the plan on my site, and I am not exactly sure why he or she did it. Either way it is all layed on the website of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago. One of their goals is to try and equate the term “Islamophobia”, with a hate crime. There are numerous points in their plan that we need to counter.

There are obviously many lies in this list, but I will not bother to refute them all, we need the focus to stay on the actions we must take.

16 Ways You can Fight Cartoons & Islamophobia

1. Remember the Prophet. The Prophet was subject to horrible insults and hate crimes in his lifetime. He remained steadfast, patient and tolerant in the face of this Islamophobia. We must model this same behavior.

Good and Evil deeds are not alike. Requite evil with good, and he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend. But none will attain this save those who endure with fortitude and are greatly favored by God. (Quran 41: 34-35)

Pray that God guides these people who mock His messenger.

2. Keep sending Salam and Durood to the Prophet, which is the main way Muslim demonstrate our love for the Prophet.

3. Make protest more honorable since it is for the love of the Prophet. Perhaps a public recitation of the Quran either voiced or silent will be more powerful and worthy of the Prophet.

4. Do not engage in forms protest that are condemned in Islam. This includes burning flags or other symbols that people hold in esteem or insulting other religious groups. Unfortunately, some Iranian newspapers have commissioned the drawing of anti-Semitic cartoons in protest of the offensive Danish ones. This is a disgusting form of retaliation that deserves absolute condemnation. Not only does this contradict Islamic rules of respect for others, it will neither help fight Islamophobia, nor elicit any understanding about why Muslims are upset about the Danish cartoons.

5. Note that incidents of Islamophobia are not isolated. Whether it’s depicting the Prophet as a terrorist, disrespecting the Quran, torturing prisoners, bombing civilians or occupying Muslim lands, these are all signs of Islamophobia.

6. Also note that not all media or all non-Muslims support this type of insulting behavior. Many have been at the forefront of condemning torture, bombing and occupation.

7. Equate racism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. They all are fruits of the same tree of hate.

Ask them what race Islam is, and let them know Jews were no threat back in the 40s, but there is a a worldwide Sharia movement happening. So the comparison is not valid.

8. Start using the word Islamophobia to describe any kind of hate crime or speech against Islam and Muslims. Doing this will make the term uniform and eventually, an accepted part of the English language the way the term “anti-Semitism” is.

Number 8 clearly shows they just do not want any criticism of Islam. This is the main reason we must get this list to our local representatives. (Contact information will be provided below.)

9. If you are involved in interfaith work, bring up the topic of Islamophobia at your meetings. Stress the urgency and need for people of all faiths to help address and condemn it and all other forms of intolerance publicly. If possible, get the organization to issue a public statement condemning Islamophobia in general, as well as in response to specific incidents like those mentioned above.

Any of us that attend religious functions should print this plan up, and hand it out at our local houses of worship.

10. Sponsor reports on Islamophobia. Unless more documentation and yearly opinion surveys are conducted, people will continue to dismiss Islamophobia as a reality. So far, the UK is the only country which has officially commissioned a report on Islamophobia. The word has yet to become a part of American media.

11. Report any and every incident of Islamophobia you, your family or friends encounter. The FBI collects hate crime statistics. Report Islamophobia to them at your local FBI office. File a report with the Council on American-Islamic Relations at http://www.cair-net.org/ireport/. They issue an annual report on Muslim civil rights in the US. Also report the crime to your local police office.

Can it get any clearer than the above statement? When it comes to Islam, they want to make free speech a hate crime.

12. If it’s an election year, make sure your local Congressman or Congresswoman who relies on your vote is aware of Islamophobia. Organize a delegation of Muslims in your constituency if you can and arrange to make a presentation on the topic, as well as a list of clear things you would like your Congressman or Congresswoman to do about Islamophobia if they want your vote.

We must make sure our local politicians know that Muslims are out to end our freedom of speech, in regards to Islam.

13. For every incident of Islamophobia, write a letter to the editor and your local civil rights organization about it.

We need to take the time to write letters to editors of online papers, that use the term “Islamophobia” in their support of Islam. They probably have no idea how far Muslims want to take this.

14. Organize a program at your local mosque or community center about the problem of Islamophobia today. Hold a brainstorming session as part of the program as well to discuss how to solve this problem.

15. Thank those who speak out or act against Islamophobia. For instance, we should thank the US State Department for condemning the publishing of the offensive cartoons in Denmark.

16. Make Dua that Allah guides those who hold Islamophobic views and practice Islamophobia. The Prophet made Dua for the Quraysh, asking for them to be guided because they were ignorant of what they were doing by committing Islamophobic acts and saying wrong things against Islam and the Prophet.

I appreciate you guys taking the time to read my site, but please do more on this post and send a link to this post to your representatives. Just add a quick explanation about how Muslims are attempting to silence all critics of Islam.

The contact information for our local representatives, can be found HERE.

Here is the contact information for some major media outlets.

I figured that I would add some history, on the origin of the word “Islamophobia”.

Islamophobia: The word was created to silence all critics of Islam and the actions that occur under Islam. The word is a contraction to the meaning of the word phobia, as non-Muslims have every right to fear an Islamic takeover.

The notion of “Islamophobia” emerged from the Islamic Republic of Iran following the revolution in 1979. According to Caroline Fourest and Fiammetta Venner, two French journalists who have written extensively on the subject, the Iranian mullahs introduced the idea of a phobia to Islam as a response to international criticism of such practices as the forcing of women to wear headscarves, and persecution of homosexuals and other violators of “Islamic morality”.

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123 comments for “Muslim’s 16 Point Plan on Trying to Silence us by Using the Term “Islamophobia”~ Action Needed!

  1. August 14, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    When your fear of the consequences of Islam’s ideology is based on knowledge, it’s not Islamophobia, it’s Islamsophia.

    Go to school online at your own pace with the Historyscoper and pump your mind up with a groundwork of facts that can win all arguments at http://go.to/islamhistory

    • August 15, 2010 at 10:05 am

      That’s a terrible website .. messy and confused and even if it had good information in it, no one would want to plow through its disorganization and messiness …

      Organize it better and section it off into links and separation pages with organizational though – and you might have people actually looking at it, instead of running away from it as fast as they can.

    • MikeTownsend
      August 15, 2010 at 12:24 pm

      Obama needs to heed America’s increasing knowledge of Islam and the “9/11 Victory Mosque” at Ground Zero it represents.

      OBAMA—-“Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us—a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today.”

      NIHILISM—The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.

      Mr. President, were those terrorists who flew the planes into the WTC because of nihilism or Islamism? Did those who celebrated these “Islamic martyrs” around the Muslim world view them as nihilist or Islamists? Were all those countries that viewed and proclaimed them as Muslim martyrs also “rejecting all religious and moral principles and simply view life as meaningless?” Or could they have indeed been acting on those principles in the Quran that gave them justification for flying the planes into the WTC? But I only want to ask two questions—Nihilism or Islamism? And, should the Cordoba Mosque be built at Ground Zero?

    • Druk
      August 15, 2010 at 12:49 pm

      I totally agree,the it´s not phobia at all,but legitimate concern for this ideology´s tragic consequences to any society.

      • Druk
        August 15, 2010 at 12:51 pm

        Errata : please read “then” instead of “the” in”…the it´s not… etc

      • admin
        August 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm

        Hi Druk,

        They call us “Islamophobes”, “bigots”, and “racists” in an attempt to get us to back off from speaking the truth about Islam. No one should fall for it.

  2. Tonto
    August 14, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I’m not anti-islam, nor do I fear it. I’m just pro-American, pro-Western Civilization and pro-Humanity. When some a group presumes to threaten any of those things, I go a little nuts and want to see the blood and slaughter of those making the threats. Simple.

  3. Dawn
    August 14, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    The first 4 points are camouflage==pray for their enemies. Is that before or after they
    cut off you head? Then they start the real
    instructions to use our customs & laws against us. This is a real campaign against
    us.They are the victims, Sure. This should be sent to Bloomberg in NY & published everwhere.

  4. August 14, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    I wonder what Barry thinks of the 16-point plan…

    • August 14, 2010 at 10:36 pm

      Isn’t he implementing it?

      • August 14, 2010 at 11:00 pm

        He probably yelled allahu akhbar when he first saw it.

    • theconspiracy03
      August 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm

      Obama Admin is way ahead of the curve. They’ve already done away with any mention of “Islam” and “terror” mentioned in the same sentence. All that is left for them to do is pass the “hate speech” laws that are floating around Congress and soon the persecutions … errr … prosecutions will begin.

      • August 15, 2010 at 9:26 pm

        Too bad that pesky free speech amendment is in the way.

  5. An Dean
    August 14, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    The arroganze of Islam, do they really think, we are not going to see what liars they all are? In the name of their Jihad against the west? BUT DON’T UNDERESTIMATE THEM, BE VIGILANT,
    There should be more of us, that take them to court, we should start an org. that we can donate to, then use it to help ordinary people fight islam, on the same level that they are.

    • theconspiracy03
      August 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

      EGGCELLENT IDEA… I nominate Chris Logan and Steve Emerson to be Chair and Co-Chair. We could organize massive protests wherever our Communist In Chief is appearing in public, and massive letter writing/phone calling campaigns to Senators and news media. We need the finances necessary to bring lawsuits against government officials and agencies which promote Islam/Sharia, such as the State Departments violation of Code of Federal Regulations Title 22 Section 205.1(d). These violations need to be prosecuted and people need to lose their jobs and/or go to jail.

      When the government FEARS THE PEOPLE, there is Liberty. When the people FEAR THE GOVERNMENT, there is Tyranny. We MUST put the fear of the people back into those we elect to represent us.

      • admin
        August 15, 2010 at 2:25 pm

        Thank you for your endorsement!

        • theconspiracy03
          August 15, 2010 at 8:59 pm

          Thank you for noticing. What do you think of the idea? Brent Bozell is doing something similar at mrcaction.org. But he is focusing on the media.

  6. August 15, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Sorry, I’m totally onside with what’s being said, but have I missed a link connecting me with a site which will show me how to help?
    My background is in classical languages, and I’m compelled to comment that the neologism
    “islamophobia” makes absolutely no sense linguistically. If the term had any meaning, it would be something like “fear of islam.”
    Anyone who doesn’t fear the bloodthirsty ignorance of the religion of peace is an idiot; the ninth century must not prevail.

    • August 15, 2010 at 2:42 pm

      I agree, islamomisia would be more apropriate.

    • theconspiracy03
      August 15, 2010 at 9:05 pm

      suprkufrB, I agree with you completly. Especially now that Islam has an ally sitting in the most powerful position on the planet, along with his entire administration. Be afraid, be VERY afraid… but don’t cower in fear. We must stand up and fight back.

  7. August 15, 2010 at 6:28 am

    Wow, for fascists they have grasped the meaning of political correctness. Muslims must be liberals.

  8. Dan
    August 15, 2010 at 8:43 am

    Interesting Q & A on certain passages of the qur’an and Islamic outreach and daw’a

    http://vitor-palmer.livejournal.com

    • admin
      August 15, 2010 at 2:14 pm

      Thanks for the info Dan.

  9. GMA213
    August 15, 2010 at 9:27 am

    It’s not Islamophobia when they realy are trying to kill you.

  10. August 15, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I’ve just posted “A Brief Introduction To Islam, Using The Words Of The Islamic Holy Texts”, at http://tinyurl.com/25wupyr

    • admin
      August 15, 2010 at 2:17 pm

      Great work Vik!

    • August 15, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      We did our link..thanks

  11. August 15, 2010 at 11:30 am

    The arselifters are planning something big to the 10th anniversary next year. They advice arselifters to leave the areas of NYC and DC. The threat is supposedly from Al Qaida so could they really have nukes already?

    • theconspiracy03
      August 15, 2010 at 9:10 pm

      Where did you find that they are advising muslims to leave NYC and DC?

  12. August 15, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Islamophobia (fear of Islam) is engendered by murderous hate crimes under color of Islam such as 9/11 and the recent massacre of medical workers in Afghanistan. Yes, whenever we hear “Allah akbar” we have reasonable cause to believe that something is going to be blown up–including possibly a mosque that belongs to the wrong “kind” of Muslims because most victims of mindless Islamofascist violence are in fact Muslims–or that somebody’s head is about to be sawed off.

    Very few people who call themselves Muslims are terrorists but almost all terrorists call themselves Muslims, and Muslims need to repudiate those individuals as mufsidoon (evildoers) instead of condemning “Islamophobia.”

  13. Kim Bruce
    August 15, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    “Remember the Prophet. The Prophet was subject to horrible insults and hate crimes in his lifetime. He remained steadfast, patient and tolerant in the face of this Islamophobia. We must model this same behavior.”

    Does that explain why the Prophet, if he can be called a prophet, retreated to Medina, after being criticized by the Quraysh people?
    He raised a small army of friends, naive men who wer promised booty, and relatives, and returned to Mecca to confront the Quraysh. He then put them to seige, conquered and decapitated 80-900 boys and men, raped the women, and sold many into slavery, those who remained opposed to Muhammad’s cult ideas?
    Islam has been like that ever since because Muhammad is “the perfect one” to emulate as a devout Muslim.

    I am not “Islamophobic”. I just believe in telling the truth.
    For more information go to: prophetofdoom.net.

  14. August 15, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    I don’t give a damn what evil Muslims call me. I’ll continue telling the truth about Islamism for as long as it takes.

    Fact: Only stupid Muslims relegate women to second class citizens or worse. Okay, Stupid Muslims, call me an Islamophobe for telling the truth. See if I care. Civilized people never relegate women to second class. Only evil Muslims do this.

    Fact: Only stupid Muslims are Suicide Bombers. Okay, stupid Muslims, call me whatever you want. The fact remains that only stupid Muslims are Suicide Bombers. Do you stupid Muslims know anyone else who is presently committing suicide in order to murder innocent people? I sure as hell don’t.

    Fact: Only uncontrolled, depraved Muslim male sex perverts will force little girls as young as seven years old to “marry” uncontrolled, depraved Muslim male sex perverts. After the forced shameless “marriage,” the uncontrolled depraved Muslim male sex perverts will legally rape these little girls. Okay, you stupid evil Muslims, call me anything you want for telling the truth about uncontrolled depraved Muslim male sex perverts who commit these very evil crimes every day. We will continue to tell the truth about the Crime Syndicates of Islamism until our dying days. Do you really think that by calling me an Islamophobe, I will discontinue telling the truth about the Criminal Activity of Islamism? Grow a human brain so that you can think straight, and you’ll see for yourselves that we’ll never stop telling the truth about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Go right ahead and call me an Islamophobe. If you do, I’ll write some more facts about the Criminal Activity of Islamism.

    Get set and read another fact about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Islamism is the only Crime Syndicate that chops off clitorises of little girls. Islamism is the only Crime Syndicate that deliberately tortures little girls before chopping off their clitorises. Shame on you Muslim Beasts! At present there are 140 million Muslim women running around without a clitoris. Shame on pedophile, child molester Muhammad. Shame on you shameless Muslim beasts. Go right ahead stupid. Call me an Islamophobe for telling the truth about the Crime Syndicates of Islamism. See if I care. I’ll never tire telling the truth about your very evil Islamic ideology.

    Another fact about the Criminal Activity of Islamism. Islamism is the only cruel “religion” that stones women to death for getting raped by a herd of Muslim males. Imagine, the Muslim wild animals that try to pass themselves as human beings will rape an innocent woman, and it’s the woman that is stoned to death.

    Fact: Muslim males are allowed to commit adultery with impunity. The Muslim wild perverts accumilate several so-called wives and then have sex with several playmates. Everybody knows that polygamy is tantamount to legalized adultery, and Islamism admits it in a round about way. If Muslim females accumilated several playmates like the Muslim male perverts, and had sex with them, you evil Muslim bastards would stone them to death for committing adultery. Okay, you evil Muslims, call me an Islamophobe for pointing out this truth. The truth remains; Islamism is a Crime Syndicate forever on a rampage to commit unique atrocities. Call me what you will, Muslim Boys, I will continue telling the truth about the grave evils committed by the Crime Syndicates of Islamism. So long until you get tired calling me an Islamophobe. I’ll be back to expose more Islamic atrocities to the world.

    WE MUST DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAMISM BEFORE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF ISLAMISM DESTROYS US AND A FEW NICE MUSLIMS WHO ADMIT THAT ISLAMISM IS A CRIME SYNDICATE.

    • August 16, 2010 at 3:27 am

      Well put!

      Regarding the chopping off clitoris part:

      The lunatics also practise male circumcision, and that’s not very much less evil than female circumcision. That too is child abuse and illegal violence.

      • August 16, 2010 at 5:18 am

        Do you have a cunning plan to do something about it?

        • August 16, 2010 at 6:33 am

          No, not for that problem specifically. We just have to keep informing people about truth, lies, facts, myths, frauds, misunderstandings etc. of any kind.

    • Mimi
      August 17, 2010 at 8:05 pm

      Just watch the video clips on MemriTV.com, it makes you sick how these guys talk about when grils are ready to be married, how to beat your wife.
      This sick ideology needs to be wiped out, or at least let it stay in the Deserts of the Middle East, where the sick profeet Mohammed started his reign of terror.
      How can educated people be so blind? Just take part of the Koran you like and easily put aside the horror in this book.
      By the way did the event of the Koran burning in Florida go through?

      • admin
        August 17, 2010 at 8:19 pm

        All the evidence against Islam, and Muslim immigration is out there. The problem is that far too many people, want to stay purposely blind to the threat. If non-Islamic countries, do not end Muslim immigration, it is just a matter of time until they takeover. As they will never stop pushing.

        That day is on 9/11. I will post the video of it here.

  15. August 15, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    I left this on their web site:

    “instead of whining and crying about “Islamaphobia” how about doing a little apologizing for all the deaths that your radical Islamists are causing.

    now in Egypt
    Thailand
    Indonesia
    and thats just this morning.

    e-mail me here with your apology and i will broadcast it on our web site:

    http://www.infideltaskforce.webs.com.

    don’t waste this opportunity to build some points. if you decline..you probably will roast in Hell with your Allah.

    Let me know soon, so I can plan around the day.”

  16. August 15, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Hey Christopher –

    Thanks for all the great info exposing this sick cult of infidel hatred and women enslavement.

    Someone – you, perhaps? – should rewrite this whole piece, substituting the word “Infidelophobia” for “Islamophobia.” E.g.:

    8. Start using the word Infidelophobia to describe any kind of hate crime or speech against non-Muslims. Doing this will make the term uniform and eventually, an accepted part of the English language the way the term “anti-Semitism” is.

    Also:

    “7. Equate racism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. They all are fruits of the same tree of hate.”

    No, people with morals equate Islamophobia with pedophilia and misogyny. THESE are fruits of the same tree of hate. And anyone who doesn’t hate the misogyny and pedophile-support of Islam is a reprobate.

    Mohammed the Reprobate…

    Don’t any of these people ever ask themselves WHY so many people hate Islam? Are they completely insensate and depraved?

    • admin
      August 15, 2010 at 6:36 pm

      Hi Acharya,

      Muslims do not care what we believe, in their mind they are doing Allah’s work and Islam is the savior of the world.

    • August 16, 2010 at 12:36 am

      Kafirphobia is the word you want.

  17. August 15, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    it is all hogwash, Chris.

  18. Darrell
    August 15, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    lol Yah it is kinda like being called a racist because you disagree with resident bobo. Islamophobia is new and already it has no meaning.

  19. August 15, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    So I am an islamophobe? So what! The 16 point plan is nothing but smoke and mirrors
    to try and cover up, rationalize 1400 years
    of violnce, persecution and death from islam
    and sharia law. I will be sharing this one
    and thanks to the mussie who posted the link
    for this.

    Never fear islam and do not show them fear.
    In islam this is seen as a weakness, just
    like doing nothing or trying to work with
    or bargin with islam. It cannot be done.
    I have sent this to our state’s politicians
    as they are as ignorant as they can be about
    islam. Thanks so much CL. You and your site
    are true blessings in the whacko job world.

    • admin
      August 16, 2010 at 1:05 am

      Hi,
      Thank for taking the time to email this link. The Muslim that posted the plan here, was not paying attention

  20. The Munz
    August 16, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Thanks for keeping us up to date on what they are doing to try to take over here Chris. You are doing a great job!

  21. August 16, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I like my 1 point plan…
    1.Deport all of the muslims, and start implementing it now. Never mind what they say, show them the exit.

  22. August 16, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Re the paki floods…
    Why in hell would we send aid to our enemies? These people have demonstrated amply that they hate us. Lets all raise hell everywhere for them to NOT get any western aid at all. Call and write your congressman and make this message heard. In addition, make them aware that any legislative assistance to islam or muslims will result in a deathblow to their political career next election. Lets call for recall of any legislators helping muslims.

    • August 16, 2010 at 8:48 pm

      I agree. On the one hand they curse us and on the other they take and take and take.

      I say no more!

    • admin
      August 16, 2010 at 9:44 pm

      I agree with you CW O, no more aid to them, and no more allowing them to come here. We have cut our wrists long enough.

  23. Free Religion&Speech
    August 17, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Linking Islamophobia to hate speech does not make anti-Islam speech punishable under the law, unless the anti-Islam speech is a directed threat towards an individulal of Islamic origin. Hate crimes against Muslims would be addressed in exactly the same way that hate crimes against members of all religions, races, or sexualities are currently addressed. They would be addressed in a way that is accepted by the ACLU as upholding free speech, as shown here:
    http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/aclu-statement-hate-crimes-legislation-crime-subcommittee-house-committee-judic

    Your website is a disgusting and infuriating attempt to disparage an entire group of law-abiding, patriotic American Muslims. You base your arguments on unsound logic and flimsy contortions of Muslims’ attempts to defend their religious freedom. In fact, Muslims are not a threat to American democracy. However, this website’s advocacy for the destruction of religious freedom IS a threat to American democracy.

    • admin
      August 17, 2010 at 8:07 pm

      If you followed the issue closely you would know that Muslims are attempting to takeover America by using our laws against us. They are also using the freedoms of Europe against Europe to slowly takeover. They are trying to takeover within the law. There is a Sharia movement happening within America, and to say that is not a threat to democracy is just ridiculous. I bet the non-Muslims of the Middle East, and Turkey did not think Islam was a threat at first either.

      Islam/Sharia Law 101/Sharia Mosques in America (I base my arguments on the actions of Muslims, and trying to advance Sharia here is a lot more than Muslims defending their religious freedoms.)

      https://loganswarning.com/islamsharia-101sharia-mosques-in-america/

      Granting Islam religion status was a huge mistake, and our Founding Fathers would not have let the country fall to Islam in the name of freedom of religion. Do you want your family’s future generations to be forced to live under Islamic rule? Because that is what is going to happen if Islam is not stopped. Now please point out the large Muslim movement in America against Sharia Law.

      Thank you.

    • admin
      August 17, 2010 at 8:09 pm

      Bashing my site does not make the threat of Islam go away, and if you really were for religious freedom you would not be taking a stand for Islam.
      005.051
      YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

      009.029
      YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      • Free Religion&Speech
        August 18, 2010 at 9:07 am

        I have “followed the issue closely,” as you say, and I have also checked out many of the other posts on your site.

        Most of your claims about what Islam says are based on your readings of Islamic doctrine. Yes, Islamic Sharia law exists, as does law in the Bible and the Hebrew Old Testament. Every religion has their ancient texts, but that does not mean that members of those religions follow the texts word-for-word or wish to impose them upon other people. Plenty of Christians recognize that the Bible need not be taken literally, and likewise, most Muslims in the US practice their faith without advancing the interpretations of Shariah law that you find objectionable. They don’t have to be “against” Sharia law as you say, they just recognize that their religious texts have multiple interpretations. That’s something you should realize.

        • admin
          August 18, 2010 at 9:30 am

          I see, you are the spokesperson for “most” Muslims. Christians and Jews are not on worldwide movement looking to impose religious laws on all, but Muslims are. Many of them are not hiding their agenda. That is something your should realize. If they were so against Sharia Law in America they would be speaking out against it, they are not. When you can prove my “claims” about Islam to be false, let me know, and Sharia Law calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, so save the multiple interpretations excuse for another site.

          • Free Religion&Speech
            August 19, 2010 at 7:38 am

            and, many Christians, Jews, and people of other religions also try to impose their religions on others.

            Take the Westboro Baptist Church, for example, which terrorizes families at funerals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

            I don’t disagree that Muslim extremists are using violence in the name of God. But they are just that – extremists. Unfortunately, perfectly good religions like Christianity and Islam get bad reputations because of the terrible, violent few.

          • admin
            August 19, 2010 at 9:58 am

            Comparing that one Church to the worldwide Sharia movement is ridiculous. Islam is a religion that condones terrorism and rape, and Muslims are causing the same problems across the world. That is not just the acts of a few. You will not fool anyone here.

          • August 19, 2010 at 8:15 am

            Holding up protest placards isn’t terrorism – except in your own morally relativistic mind.

            There are no arselifter extremists. Those one are behaving exactly as their religion tells them to behave.

      • Free Religion&Speech
        August 18, 2010 at 9:24 am

        I have one additional point to make regarding this post.

        You say
        “let them know Jews were no threat back in the 40s, but there is a a worldwide Sharia movement happening. So the comparison is not valid.”

        Actually, the cause for the Holocaust was that many Europeans DID believe that Jews were a threat. Since Jews were in many positions of power as lawyers, in banks, etc. there was widespread paranoia that they were “taking over.” Of course, we now know that this was wrong. A similar paranoia is occurring today – people like you falsely believe that Muslims are “taking over.” I hope and pray that this paranoia will not lead to something as terrible as the Holocaust.

        • admin
          August 18, 2010 at 9:33 am

          Outside of Israel Muslims have taken over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Malaysia, large portions of Africa, Europe and had Pakistan created, etc. Those are facts, not paranoia. How much more land do they have to takeover before you wakeup?

          I’ll continue to post facts, and you will continue to say it is not happening. The readers are not dumb.

          • Free Religion&Speech
            August 19, 2010 at 7:35 am

            Muslims have “taken over?” huh?

            No, actually, Muslims have lived in those countries since before Christians “took over” North America in the 1600s.

          • admin
            August 19, 2010 at 9:59 am

            One thing has nothing to do with the other.

          • August 19, 2010 at 8:11 am

            They were original Christian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist and Hindu countries.

            Are you admitting you’re so ignorant you don’t know how they became arselifter countries?

            You’d better start doing some reading –

            http://www.historyofjihad.com/

    • August 19, 2010 at 8:16 am

      So you support their sharia efforts, do you?

      • Free Religion&Speech
        August 19, 2010 at 9:25 am

        i know that there were people of all religions living there. and there still are today. i’m just pointing out that it’s not like they moved in as outsiders and “took over,” as the admin claimed.

        i guess you’re referring to the fact that those nations are Islamic states governed by Sharia law. You ask do I agree with that – no, I don’t. I believe in freedom of religion, so I do not believe a country should define itself as an Islamic state or impose its religious principles on others.

        However, this has nothing to do with the rights of Muslims living in this country. Those Muslims have chosen to live here largely BECAUSE America has freedom of reliigon. To claim that they are trying to “take over” American democracy is ludicrous.

        • admin
          August 19, 2010 at 9:56 am

          Non-Muslims are persecuted across the Islamic world, and yes Muslims took over most of the Middle East. So trying to whitewash the issue.

          No matter how many times you want to say it is not happening, this site and many others clearly document the Sharia movement within America. This circular conversation is now over.

          • Free Religion&Speech
            August 19, 2010 at 11:56 am

            Non-Muslims are persecuted across the Islamic world, so we should get back at them by hurting innocent Muslims in the US? Gosh, I didn’t know two wrongs made a right.

            If you wish to end the conversation, I will. However, I hope that you will continue to challenge yourself by engaging in discourse with those who disagree with you.

            Best,
            Free Religion&Speech

          • admin
            August 19, 2010 at 12:04 pm

            Challenge myself? I post facts that show the Sharia movement and all you do is say it is not happening. That may work on other sites, but it does not here. Fighting Islam is the right thing to do.

            Islam is a threat to Western Civilization, and Muslim immigration is changing the West to suit Islam. There is no major Muslim movement against the Sharia movement, and tolerating Islam is a slow suicide. I have been speaking out for eight years now, I will not stop.

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