Tommy’s new “Friends”

Tommy-Robinson-1911821I think it is safe to say that you have heard about Tommy Robinson’s departure from the English Defence League (EDL). But I wanted to add my thoughts to the discussion. Now I understand that some bad elements, Nazis and white supremacists infiltrated the EDL. But he should have tried to weed them out. Maybe he did try, or maybe he did not try hard enough. Either way, he could have just stepped down from the EDL command. Instead, he steps down and then stabs thousands of good EDL members in the back, by joining the Quilliam Foundation. A Muslim lead “think tank”. There is where my problem with Tommy begins, and this is where my support for him ends.

For those who do not know Quilliam is a government funded so called “moderate” Muslim group, that Tommy naively believes is going to save the UK from Islam. Even if Quilliam was sincere, the odds of them saving the UK from Islam, are the same as Zuhdi Jasser saving America from Islamic rule. Slim and none. The “moderate” Muslims are going to save the day fantasy is something me and the dynamic duo, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, have criticized for years. It is not happening. That is why I was happy to see their statement today on Tommy and his new “friends”.

If you go to Jihad Watch and read the article you will see the name Mo Ansar (pictured above with Tommy), and how he tried to cover for Islam based child marriages. On Twitter I had a few “conversations” with him, and it is true. He will not condemn Islam for allowing child marriages.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:

Narrated Hisham’s  father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina.  He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he  consumed that marriage when she was nine years  old.

Instead he points to past history to try to justify it. Nice company you keep Tommy Robinson….

Now I just wanted to add one thing to what Pamela, and Mr. Spencer stated about Quilliam. Besides all of that, Quilliam has labeled the great Geert Wilders a “bigot”, and said the following:

“We therefore challenge Geert Wilders to an open debate in which we will argue that Islam is compatible with secular democracy and that, contrary to what he apparently believes, Muslims are not a threat to Europe and its values.”

I am a supporter of Mr. Wilders because he fully understands that in order to win this war, non-Islamic countries need to end all Muslim immigration.

But Quilliam wants us to believe that Muslim immigration is no threat to Europe.

So Tommy, is Mr. Wilders a “bigot” or not?

Christopher Logan ‏@LogansWarning 23h
@Brynmr @EDLTrobinson @QuilliamF Quilliam has branded @geertwilderspvv a “bigot”. Do you condemn or condone them for that Tommy? #Islam #EDL

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28 comments for “Tommy’s new “Friends”

  1. The Shadow
    October 10, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Weeding out? Didn’t try hard enough. That goes for all on the top.

    • admin
      October 10, 2013 at 9:58 pm

      That could be very true. But outside of Tommy and Kevin Carroll, I do not think I heard any other names who were considered leaders.

      • The Shadow
        October 11, 2013 at 7:54 am

        I was thinking about the contact individuals for the european DL’s. I should have added this to my comment.

  2. October 10, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    I think Tommy said one thing that was fundamentally right: the revolution against jihad (Islamism/radical islam etc) can only come from within Islam. We need to empower those who want to break free from the bonds of Sharia, from which jihad arises. I don’t know why exactly Tommy joined Quilliam at this stage of his journey, but I trust him implicitly and am waiting to see how this unfolds before judging him.

    • admin
      October 10, 2013 at 10:28 pm

      Hi Gerry,

      You have fallen into the trap. The enemy is Islam itself. Not “Islamism”. No offense to you, but I have been hearing the same thing from people here for over a decade. Koran verse 10:64 says its words cannot be changed.Islam is not going to reform, it is going to end up dominating the West if it is not targeted head on. (That is not a call for violence). Think about it mate!

      • Herman
        October 12, 2013 at 1:13 pm

        Though takkyia free history teaches us that islam only withdrew, when met with a stronger military force, as in Poitiers, Andalusia, Vienna, Rome, Lepanto and of course the Crusades.

    • October 11, 2013 at 4:35 am

      If the foundation is rotten, no amount of cosmetic upgrades will make a house safe to live in.

    • Truth
      October 12, 2013 at 5:31 am

      Gerry, you’re wrong. The revolution against jihad can come from the outside. When Muslim Al-queda and Taliban Muslims see piles of 1000’s of dead Taliban bodies, they’ll start to reconsider their murderous jihad ways.

    • Bukhari Muslim
      October 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm

      Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters

      Greetings in the name of Allah, the beneficent and the Merciful!

      Today we are fortunate to watch what is happening in the world on TV from our living rooms – whether it is tsunami, floods, earthquakes, plane crashes, refugee camps, the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan etc. In this panorama of world events, we also watch our Muslim brothers continually involve in unending fights in Palestine, Kashmir, Southern Thailand, Mindanao (Philippines), Nigeria, Chechnya, Burma, Xinxiang province in China etc. We also watch Muslims killing Muslims, or Sunnies fighting against Shiites Ahamadias, Bahais, often attacking their Mosques using suicide bombers.
      The world is watching us with renewed interest, especially after the Al Qaeda attacks on America, London, Spain, Bali and Mumbai. People have started calling our Holy Quran A WAR MANUAL OR A TERROR MANUAL. Is it not a sad thing?
      Please pay careful attention to this letter, which is being translated into 300 to 400 languages and sent to about 500 million Muslims and non-Muslims around the world.
      After seeing so much of terrorist attacks by our self-proclaimed Jihadist brothers, non-Muslims have started reading our Holy Koran, Hadith and Sira, and are raising so many questions. Only ten questions are given here with explanations. Please be ready to answer them.
      1. Why Allah changed his own statements in the Holy Quran?
      The following are examples of the good and kind verses, Allah revealed to our Holy Prophet in Mecca when he had only one wife, Kadhija.
      • “Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously” (Q.73:10)
      • “To you be your religion, and to me my religion.” (Q.109:6)
      • “Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of your Lord” (Q.20:103)
      • “…and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: ‘We are Christians”; because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” (Q.5:82
      • “We well know what the infidels say: but you are not to compel them”. (Q.50:45)
      • “Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant” (Q7:119)
      • “Pardon thou, with a gracious pardoning.” (Q.15:85)
      • “Tell those who believe, to forgive, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah.” (Q.45.14)
      • “Those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians – any who believe in Allah and the last day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (Q.2:62)
      • “And do not dispute with the followers of the Book, except what is best.” (Q.29:46
      After the death of Kadhija, our holy Prophet married Sawda, and then under-aged 9-year-old Aisha at the age of 53 and by this time he became very powerful in Medina. However, the Jews and Christians had rejected his claim of prophethood and his call to embrace Islam. Now the attitude of the Prophet and tone of Allah’s subsequent verses dramatically changed. Let us now take a look at the new Koranic verses, and also reflect a little on why Allah could not honour his own earlier words.
      • “Oh you who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you” (Q.9:123)
      • “I will instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite above their necks and smite all their finger tips off.” (Q.8:12)
      • “Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him.” (Q.3:85)
      • “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.” (Q.9.5)
      • “slay them wherever ye catch them.” (Q.2:191)
      • “Humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax if they are Christians or Jews,” (Q.9:29)
      • “Allah deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers” (Q 3:54)
      • “Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as your friends” (Q 5:51)
      • “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day, and fight people of the book.” (Q.9:29)
      • “O people of the Book (Jews and Christians), do you find fault with us, except that we believe in Allah? Shall I inform you of him who is worse than this in retribution from Allah? Worse is he whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine and he who served idols. Such are in worse plight and far more astray from the straight path” (Q.5:59-60)
      If Jews and Christians are the breed of monkeys and pigs in the eyes of Allah, then how it is possible that out of 820 or so Nobel Prize winners, 800 belonged to the People of the Book (Christians 620, Jews 180)?
      Have you noticed that all inventions and discoveries that we use today, from safety-pin to aspirin, were made by people who never read our Holy Quran?
      How we, the Muslims, can demand respect from others without any contribution to humanity?

  3. flomper
    October 10, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    “Now I understand that some bad elements, Nazis and white supremacists infiltrated the EDL”
    Who exactly is going to save the whites from the white genocide that is proceeding apace?
    Hitler predicted what is happening to whites right now. Jews are not going to save us – the media is largely controlled by jews and the media approves the white disappearance/genocide.
    The answer is no one is going to save us. We must save ourselves – and those who stand up for the white race and white survival are labelled nazis and supremacists – by you. Obviously you are anti-white, Mr Logan – you are not going to save us.

    • admin
      October 11, 2013 at 12:17 am

      I am white. I just do not believe we have to rule over all. I also never said everyone who wants whites to survive are Nazis, and supremacists.

    • Herman
      October 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm

      “the media is largely controlled by jews”, that is probably why lot’s of media outlets are (partially) owned by mozlims….

      This sentence by itself shows who you are!

  4. Caroleigh
    October 11, 2013 at 6:35 am

    Thank-you L.W. for telling us (me at least) what’s going on.
    I read Weasel Zippers, iOTW, Atlas etc. and couldn’t figure out what the real story was until you just explained. And I’m with you. Islam is incompatible with anything but Islam. . We, America must put it to a stop. we can if we elect Ted Cruz POTUS

    • admin
      October 11, 2013 at 9:52 pm

      No problem Caroleigh! 🙂

  5. emmi
    October 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I suggest those who think Maajad Nawaz and Ed Husain, two of the founders of the Quilliam Foundation which Tommy Robinson and Kev Carrol have joined, are going to stop the spread of Islam in the West, should read information about their background.
    Read Ed Husain’s book ‘The Islamist’ which is about his days with Hizb ut-Tahrir (now banned in the UK). He is now euphoric about peaceful Islam, but without the need to attend terrorist type groups. There is no condemnation of the basic orders in the Koran by these two men as far as I can see.
    Nawaz hopes that we shall flock to his side to benefit from his wisdom. What an ego and what an ability to fantasise.

    • admin
      October 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm

      I have been Tweeting Nawaz, you are correct, he will not condemn the Koran verses that call for dominance over non-Muslims. He did reTweeet at least one Tweet that I was mentioned in though. So basically he is ducking my questions like a coward. All the while Tommy sits there silently. Doesn’t he see why Nawaz will not respond to me? He is playing Tommy for a fool. Showing him off like a first place trophy.

      • emmi
        October 12, 2013 at 10:50 am

        I can’t tell you how good it is to have you in the fight against Islam, Chris. If ever you decided to give up and go and join the Quilliam Foundation, I would regard it as the same as the Queen announcing that she will only appear in public in her underwear!

        I thank the gods for you, your integrity and unwavering condemnation of barbaric Islam.

  6. emmi
    October 12, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Gerry Dorian, I disagree with your comment that revolution can only come from within Islam. The main fight must come from us. We have to stop giving respect to these people and their ideology. They are basking in a sea of undeserved approval which is empowering them to take more and more liberties.
    In the UK we have allowed Muslim women to demand that men are thrown out of public swimming pools so that they can swim modestly. They have stopped fathers from taking their children to nursery school in at least one school, so that these psychotic fools inside bin bags can socialise with modesty. They are shaping our world and it is up to us to make clear how ignorant, superstitious and cruel they are as a result of allowing dried up old men to order their lives. Their leaders won’t enlighten them and bring about change from ‘within’.

  7. Truth
    October 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Tommy should start “NRNASEDL” (Not racist nor anti semite EDL)

  8. emmi
    October 13, 2013 at 2:47 am

    Caroleigh, would Ted Cruz qualify as it is said that he was born in Canada?

    • caroleigh
      October 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      Yes, emmi Senator Cruz is an American, having dual citizenship with Canada. He is a constitutional lawyer, wrote 80 Supreme Court briefs and presented 40 oral arguments. He was also a law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist. Islam will not be tolerated in any form.

      • emmi
        October 15, 2013 at 2:28 am

        Thanks, Caroleigh. That is cheering news.

  9. emmi
    October 13, 2013 at 3:00 am

    Caroleigh, please make sure your candidate is not over the age of 45/50. I think Obama might have got in because of his opponent’s grey hair. Groups don’t generally support older candidates.
    We have plenty of senior politicians in the UK on an ego trip. They are useless at rallying the people for any major changes.

  10. caroleigh
    October 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    I believe he’s quite young. But do not know exact age.

    • emmi
      October 15, 2013 at 2:32 am

      Caroleigh, I’ve just looked at Wiki. Ted Cruz is 42.

  11. October 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Wow. This blows me away. I thought Tommy of the EDL was Britain’s champion. Wait!!there has to more to this story than meets the eye. I want to give Tommy the benefit of the doubt. England has to rise up and remove this scourge from its land or all is lost.Time for Britain and the rest of Europe to get rid of the guilt of WW2. They must realize by now that islam is a destructive force, and there can never be any truce. For the muslim, its all about Islam and they will stop at nothing until the Brits submit. Wont that be a shame? Notice when a nation is in spiritual and economic decline, in come the Muslim! Ever notice that everything the infidel necrophiliacs touch turns into a hell hole? you should.
    Come back, Tommy. don’t allow yourself to be seduced.

  12. admin
    October 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Quilliam is showing Tommy off like a first place trophy. This was a blow to our side, but we WILL recover.

  13. emmi
    October 15, 2013 at 2:40 am

    Wolfy Ghalkhani,not a good idea IMO getting Tommy back. He has allegedly agreed ‘to help police investigate racists in the organisation’.
    If any, they would be in a minority.
    Nawaz of Quilliam has not offered to help the police investigate Muslim extremists who attack non-Muslims and who declare that they will take over and circumcise all British women. There are the peaceful female Muslims who are allowed to keep their face covered as they wave banners declaring ‘Behead the Infidel’ in need of investigation.
    The savages carrying jihadist flags who burned the American flag outside the American Embassy in London, are not being investigated either.

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