NY Muslim Rapper ~ Ali Shaheed Muhammad (Tribe Called Quest) ~ Runs From the Truth on Islam

TCQ Ali 2Last night on Twitter I struck up a conversation with former Tribe Called Quest member Ali Shaheed Muhammad, and just like “Taliban” Gansta Rapper, he ran from the harsh realities of Islam.

Christopher Logan ‏@LogansWarning
@AliShaheed as a black man how do you justify Mohammad owning black slaves? Do you plan on bring back slavery? @Brynmr

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Even after providing the proof, Ali could not bring himself to face the truth.

Sahih Muslim, Book 10, Number 3901:

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) on migration; he (the Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).

The best the rapper could do is type up empty talking points, that did not prove a thing. I though rappers were supposed to be wordsmiths…

@Brynmr @loganswarning Answers to what? You guys make up stuff and call it truth. I answered it by saying find the truth & free yourself.

Ali Shaheed MuhammadAli Shaheed Muhammad ‏@AliShaheed

  1. @Brynmr @loganswarning You guys bring forth practices of 1400 years ago, not all truthful and deliver it into the context of the mind-state

  2. @Brynmr @loganswarning you can post all of the the Hadiths you like. Again it appears you guys have a corrupt interpretation of the real.

As you can see his statements did not refute a thing. Just a bunch of empty talk!

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Ali then went onto to show either he is just ignorant on Islam, or trying to cover for the brutality that Islam still allows.

@LogansWarning not a cop out. it’s true which is why you won’t bring forth the cultural practices of all nations of 1400 years ago. anyway..

@Brynmr @loganswarning the Quran moved all of mankind which supported slavery from doing so READ hommie

Yet when I mentioned Koran verses that show Islam still allows slavery such as 4:24, he took the easy way out and ducked them. Why would anyone want to be part of something they cannot even honestly defend?

{ وَٱلْمُحْصَنَٰتُ مِنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَٰنُكُمْ كِتَٰبَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ مَّا وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُواْ بِأَمْوَٰلِكُمْ مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَٰفِحِينَ فَمَا ٱسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَٰضَيْتُمْ بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ ٱلْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيماً حَكِيماً }

And, forbidden to you are, wedded women, those with spouses, that you should marry them before they have left their spouses, be they Muslim free women or not; save what your right hands own, of captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses among the enemy camp, but only after they have been absolved of the possibility of pregnancy [after the completion of one menstrual cycle]; this is what God has prescribed for you (kitāba is in the accusative because it is the verbal noun). Lawful for you (read passive wa-uhilla, or active wa-ahalla), beyond all that, that is, except what He has forbidden you of women, is that you seek, women, using your wealth, by way of a dowry or a price, in wedlock and not, fornicating, in illicitly. Such wives as you enjoy thereby, and have had sexual intercourse with, give them their wages, the dowries that you have assigned them, as an obligation; you are not at fault in agreeing together, you and they, after the obligation, is waived, decreased or increased. God is ever Knowing, of His creatures, Wise, in what He has ordained for them.
Our fighting for freedom friend Tommy also hit the rap star with the truth.

@LogansWarning Ali: I posted verses ordering death to apostates – you ignored them. @AliShaheed

Ali ran from that as well, as he has unfortunately has allowed his mind to be enslaved by Islam. Being a slave is nothing to be proud of. I would be embarrassed to be part of the ummah.

Tommy will close this one out:

When Muslims are confronted with the true Islam they fold like a cheap deck of cards and head for the mosque. @LogansWarning@AliShaheed

For the record: Ali has taken the easy way out and blocked me on Twitter. Islam: slavery of the mind and moral corruption.

 

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20 comments for “NY Muslim Rapper ~ Ali Shaheed Muhammad (Tribe Called Quest) ~ Runs From the Truth on Islam

  1. March 8, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Not only does this Ali Shaheed character run from opposition to his Muslim BS, he blocks us then tweets about us behind our backs LOL. What a coward!

    • admin
      March 8, 2013 at 5:57 pm

      Look how at his lifestyle, I wonder how long he would last under Islamic Law?

  2. theruffian
    March 8, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    There can be no true exchange of ideas or debate if the parties don’t approach the discussion with an open mind and respect for the other’s opinions. From what I’ve read here AND on Mr. Muhammad’s timeline it seems that you were blocked because you were not interested in that kind of discussion.

    • admin
      March 8, 2013 at 6:24 pm

      Hello theruffian,

      Islam calls for the dominance over non-Muslims, slavery, child marriage, plundering, and lying. Those with morals do not respect those actions. He is a moral coward who could not refute my points, so he ran.

      A non-Muslim respecting Islam, is the equivalent to a Jew respecting Nazism. Suicidal.

    • March 9, 2013 at 6:12 am

      I think you meant there was no kissing of Muslim behinds in the hope of getting tossed a bone. Not my style. He had the chance to man up and defend his position. He didn’t because he couldn’t. None of them can.

    • eib
      March 9, 2013 at 3:06 pm

      You can respect other cultures without signing a suicide pact for you own.
      To respect Islam is to understand it completely– to understand that it commands its followers to destroy every other culture, religion and political structure.
      They believe the West, and you, to be profane vermin.
      They will dialogue with you but will lie because their scriptures command that they lie to the enemy, the infidel, you.

  3. caroleigh
    March 9, 2013 at 7:53 am

    Tommy ….
    Another reason, he’s black, probably never graduated past the 5th grade. Just another ignorant low flo………. looking for some recognition……. hahahaha.. he got it here didn’t he!.
    good job Tommy and LW

  4. Charlie
    March 9, 2013 at 10:11 am

    “When Muslims are confronted with the true Islam they fold like a cheap deck of cards and head for the mosque. ”

    SO TRUE!!! Exactly what my ex did when I tried to get him to read a book by Ali Sina. Cowards. At the end of the day I don’t think any of them believe it anyway.

  5. Muslim deverish
    March 10, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Everyday you reach a new level of insane lol Your deluded logan. Your a demented narcissistic fool drunk on his own preceived self importance. He didn’t run away he just chose not to engage an idiot with an axe to grind

    • March 10, 2013 at 11:51 pm

      As long as Muslims keep sticking their perverted “religion” in our faces we’ll be sticking the ugly truth of Islam in theirs and showing everyone what bigots, hypocrites and haters you inbreds really are.

  6. March 11, 2013 at 6:42 am

    Dont care for this much. You guys have too much time on your hands. I doubt this dude endorses slavery and I doubt very many religious people endorse half of the dated nonsense in all of the scriptures. They will generelly cling to what they perceive to be valuable in those scriptures. I have jewish friends who attend synagogue but eat bacon on the DL…

    I for one do not subscribe to any religion but I have better things to do with my time then try and down people for not knowing every fucking word of the Qoran. Would you have targetted him if he wasn’t slightly “famous” ?

    get a life seriously

    BTW Ali Shaheed was the DJ for ATCQ, he is not and was never a rapper. Get your facts straight dickhead

    • admin
      March 11, 2013 at 9:20 am

      Mr. Friendly,

      He was made aware that Islam allows slavery and child marriage. There is also a clear pattern of Sharia seeping into America, yet he still chooses to remain a Muslim.

      It says he is a rapper here…

      https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=ali+shaheed+muhammad+&oq=ali+shaheed+muhammad+&gs_l=hp.12..35i39j0l3.92396.94021.1.95745.7.7.0.0.0.5.489.1671.0j5j4-2.7.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.5.psy-ab.K7ey7eMM1SI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.dmQ&fp=f6d82a968f46fcf3&biw=1366&bih=667

      http://www.searchdictionaries.com/?q=Ali+Shaheed+Muhammad

      BTW, you are not the spokesperson for the Islamic community, so do not pretend to be, and for the record I “target” Muslims who are not slightly famous as well. Get your facts straight.

    • March 11, 2013 at 7:55 pm

      You are a nasty Phuck!

    • March 12, 2013 at 1:08 pm

      I doubt all 8.5 million Nazis had a direct hand in killing Jews but merely by being members of the Nazi Party they contributed to and were responsible for the Jewish Holocaust. Membership in organizations have consequences… dickhead.

  7. March 11, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    From Islam’s Bukhari:V#4B52N137
    “The Prophet Muhammad said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him…. If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'”
    Basically being a ‘black’ is the sack!

  8. Salma
    August 13, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Get a life losers. And learn the difference between “running away from the truth” and pathetic people such as yourselves not even being worth the argument. You’re lucky he even bothered to reply to you. He shouldn’t have even given you all the time of day.
    Back then anybody with power/status owned slaves. Arab slaves, African slaves, Indian slaves whatever. People enslaved their own damn people! Why are you instigating and making it a racial thing?? One of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)’s beloved companions was a black as charcoal man named Bilal and recited the call to prayer so beautifully, the people loved him! Racism is a sin in Islam!
    In Prophet Muhammad’s last speech he said this: ” All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. ”
    And also Islam only allows slavery in the form of war prisoners, hypocrites/infidels. If a slave converted to Islam, they were free because they have the same rights. Now check slavery history in Christianity and other religions! &Arab slavery before Islam and Arab slavery after Islam are NOT the same! So everything you said is null & void.
    You do all that research and still come out looking like an idiot lol, thats what happens when you come with bad intentions. Do your research with the intent of understanding, not to reply!
    Because you look real stupid tryna say Islam is a racist, prejudice religion when you’re prejudice towards Islam – things you can’t understand, clearly. “People fear what they don’t understand”.
    You’re tryna fight fire with fire and it’s not working. Islam is THE TRUTH and its here to stay! Hence its the fastest growing religion and its predicted to surpass Christianity one day!! STAY MAD IDIOTS. If you can’t stand it kill yourself so you won’t have to witness it. And then you’ll see everything for yourself, but it’ll be too late cause it won’t benefit you.
    You got a whole website dedicated Islamophobia? What does this do??? You so worried about peoples faith when you need to be worried about ya damn self LOL all of you! GET YOUR LIFE. GET.

    • admin
      August 13, 2014 at 6:28 pm

      1. He clearly ran because he did not have the knowledge to debate me. So save the spin.

      2. Jesus never had slaves so how about trying some honesty? Mohammad also owned black slaves, so you might want to stop with the cheerleading. If he was the final prophet he should have set the example. He did not.

      http://loganswarning.com/2011/06/20/religion-of-slavery-expanding-in-harlem-ny/

      3. Mohammad has some real “nice” things to say about blacks.

      Mohammed referred to Blacks as “raisin heads”. (Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256).

      In another Hadith, Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, “pug-nosed slaves”. (Sahih Moslem vol. 9, p. 46-47).

      4. In regards to his final sermon, you left out the part about men being to choose who their wives can be friends with. (Paragraph 4). You also left failed to mention that the section you posted still discriminated via religions.

      5. Look at you, an “angel” justifying slavery. You do not even see how insane you sound. Once again, Jesus did own slaves. He was the final message.

      6. For an “idiot” it only took me about 2 minutes to expose your con. Next time bring you Imam. I will take him down to.

      7. Islam does preach hatred against all non-Muslims. It starts in Sura 1 verse 7.

      8. The only one here who seems mad is you. lol Islam has brought you so much peace!

      9. Using your so called “logic”, Jews who opposed Nazism were suffering from “Naziophobia”.

      10. One of the things this site does is expose Muslim propagandists like you. Thanks for dropping by!

    • admin
      August 13, 2014 at 6:33 pm

      So you want to give infidels the option of being a slave or converting. What an attractive offer of freedom….

      What was that about Muslim not being allowed to be a slave?

      Koran 4:92: (Altafsir)

      It is not for a believer to slay a believer, in other words, no such slaying should result at his hands, except by mistake, killing him by mistake, unintentionally. He who slays a believer by mistake, when he meant to strike some other thing, as in the case of hunting or [shooting at] trees, but then happens to strike him with what in most cases would not kill, then let him set free, let him emancipate, a believing slave (raqaba denotes nasama, ‘a person’), an obligation on him, and blood-money is to be submitted, to be paid, to his family, that is, the slain person’s inheritors, unless they remit it as a charity, to him by waiving [their claim to] it. In the Sunna this [blood-money] is explained as being equivalent to one hundred camels: twenty pregnant, twenty female sucklings, twenty male sucklings, twenty mature ones and twenty young ones [not more than five years old]; and [the Sunna stipulates] that it is incumbent upon the killer’s clan, namely, his paternal relations [and not other relatives]. They share this [burden of the blood-money] over three years; the rich among them pays half a dinar, while the one of moderate means [pays] a quarter of a dinar each year; if they still cannot meet this, then it can be taken from the treasury, and if this is not possible, then from the killer himself. If he, the slain, belongs to a people at enmity, at war, with you and is a believer, then the setting free of a believing slave, is incumbent upon the slayer, as a redemption, but no bloodmoney is to be paid to his family, since they are at war [with you]. If he, the slain, belongs to a people between whom and you there is a covenant, a treaty, as is the case with the Protected People (ahl al-dhimma), then the blood-money, for him, must be paid to his family, and it constitutes a third of the blood-money for a believer, if the slain be a Jew or a Christian, and two thirds of a tenth of it, if he be a Magian; and the setting free of a believing slave, is incumbent upon the slayer. But if he has not the wherewithal, for [setting free] a slave, failing to find one, or the means to obtain one, then the fasting of two successive months, is incumbent upon him as a redemption: here God does not mention the transition to [an alternative to fasting which is] giving food [to the needy], as in the case of [repudiating one’s wife by] zihār, something which al-Shāfi‘ī advocates in the more correct of two opinions of his; a relenting from God (tawbatan, ‘relenting’, is the verbal noun, and is in the accusative because of the implied verb).

    • Emmi
      August 16, 2014 at 1:01 am

      Salma. Of course Islam is spreading. Non-Muslims are faced with amputations and beheadings or convert to Islam. Every country in the world is plagued by backward Muslim savages trying to force backward, savage sharia law upon them.
      When you call us losers, you are right, referring to the Brits at least. We are losing our hard earned money so that 70% of Muslim women and 45% of Muslim men can take benefits instead of working. We are losing decent education for our children so that they can spend time dressed up as Muslims and waste time grovelling to an unseen entity who demands blood and the death of the wonderful Jews.
      We are losing our civilised identity so that cry baby Muslims will not be ‘offended’. We are losing our friendly pubs that are used by educated, peaceful, amusing gays as so many gay customers are beaten up by Muslim gangs and even paralysed.
      We have lost the chance of seeing an NHS doctor as their time is taken up with Muslim women having ten children. I’ve just lost over $1,500 to get a report on my health privately, although I’m shelling out to keep Muslims in their backward attitude and supply them with ‘modesty burkas’ when they go into hospital.
      I have yet to hear one Muslim thank us for allowing them to share our good life as they escape their crap holes. I have yet to find one Muslim who has done anything for the UK. On the other hand Jews have given us medical cures, laughter, entertainment, philosophy, literature, music and have set a good example regarding bringing up children.
      Whining, jealous Muslims want to kill them as they are unable to think beyond this savagery.
      Go and kill yourselves instead. We are sick of your moaning, insults, cruelty especially to animals and kids and your killjoy attitude that welcomes death. I suggest you all go and embrace it then.

  9. Emmi
    August 16, 2014 at 11:08 am

    To all you pea brained sanctimonious Muslims take note. One Sheik Ahmed now living in Sweden on benefits that ‘come from Allah’, has aired the last part of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Strategy Plan which states that Muslims once they have positions of power should state their goals openly.
    This Ahmed guy has stated that they should kill all non-Muslims who will not convert to Islam; ‘the intention of Isis is to eradicate Christians’ including those in Europe.
    These murderers are emboldened by the fact that we have never intended the same for them nor have we felt the hatred towards them that they feel towards us.
    Muslims are tiresome people who deserve to die as martyrs or from the diseases they can’t cure, at the very least for being so darned boring.
    One Palestinian mother is getting her kid cured in Israel, by compassionate Israelis and has declared that when he grows up he will become a jihadist for Palestine. And I suppose he will unless someone can also cure him of Islamic victimhood and self pity.

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