ACT! Issues Public Statement VS Logan’s Warning ~ Does NOT Back up Claim on Jasser…

The other day I received a response from ACT! to my “Logan’s Warning to ACT!’s Brigitte Gabriel: Come Clean With America!” post. Unfortunately ACT! did not come clean about their ridiculous statement on Zuhdi Jasser “truly” representing Muslims in America. If that were true, ACT! would not even exist.

Dear LogansWarning.com,

I trust this email finds you well.

I am reaching today regarding your story here: http://loganswarning.com/2012/03/02/logans-warning-to-acts-brigitte-gabriel-come-clean-with-america/comment-page-1/#comment-102831

You have requested that ACT! For America and Brigitte Gabriel “come clean” and we would be happy to explain exactly what our position is on this matter if you are agreeable to publishing it.

Thank you for your time.

-Chris

C. Christopher Slick

Director of Online Operations & Technology

My reply to Chris was the following:

Hi,
Why would I agree to publish anything before I have read it? That is a ridiculous request. The fact is what she is doing is spreading false hope, and the Muslim community does not care what Jasser has to say. You are just wasting time, and I will continue to expose ACT! and any other organization that promotes him.

Have a good day,

Chris

Chris responded with what seemed to be a childish game.

Chris,

Thanks for the email. I reached out in good faith that if we were to draft a response to your request for ACT! For America and Brigitte Gabriel to “come clean” on exactly what our position is on Dr. Jasser that we would be honoring your stated request. We are indicating to you that we are happy to send a public response to your public request for a public response. We simply asked if you would be agreeable to publishing it. Feel free to send over guidelines for publishing.

Best,
-C

C. Christopher Slick

LW to ACT!:

Chris,

Serious, if you have something to say just say it. No one is stopping you from posting in the comment section of my site, and no one is stopping ACT! from posting on their own site. As I said, asking someone to publish something without reading it first is ridiculous.

Have a good day,

Chris

At that point I decided to give them another chance to back up their claim about Jasser “truly” representing Muslims in America.

Chris,

I know what her position is on Jasser himself. But she said, ” We encourage you to attend the March 5th event to show your support both for the NYPD as well as for this group of American Muslims who truly represent the Muslim American community.”

I gave numerous examples showing the opposite. Let ACT prove their statement, and I will publish it. I want sources showing that Mosques in America, and Madrasas here support Jasser’s views. Show me the Imams (and the Mosques) they lead in America who are saying Jasser is correct. Please provide links and videos showing they are calling for a separation of Mosque and state.

Thank you,

Chris

As of 3/7/12 they have not provided the name of even one Mosque in America that is in support of Jasser, and a separation of Mosque and state. The reason being, is because that is not Islam. Islam is a complete way of life which includes a set of laws. Laws which are brutal and discriminate against non-Muslims.

Koran verse 009.029

YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

The Koran itself states certain laws are to be followed. One being the cutting off of limbs for theft.

Koran verse 005.038

YUSUFALI: As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

The authentic Ahadith show us that Mohammad himself ordered certain laws to be enacted.

Bukhari Hadith Volume 9, Book 92, Number 432:

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
The Jews brought a man and a woman who had committed illegal sexual intercourse, to the Prophet and the Prophet ordered them to be stoned to death, and they were stoned to death near the mosque where the biers used to be placed.

Koran verse 10:64 states the words of the it cannot be changed.

Koran verse 010.064

YUSUFALI: For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity.

Then there is this beauty….

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 89, Number 251:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “Whoever obeys me, obeys Allah, and whoever disobeys me, disobeys Allah, and whoever obeys the ruler I appoint, obeys me, and whoever disobeys him, disobeys me.”

So, does ACT! expect us to believe that Muslims in America are going to obey Jasser over Mohammad himself?

The final email I received from ACT! was their public statement against Logan’s Warning. A statement that did not address their claim about Jasser “truly” representing Muslim in America. We also see that the leaders of ACT!, do not like to be criticised.

ACT! to LW:

Chris,

Please find our public statements below given by our Executive Director, Guy Rodgers.

Begin message:

I find it disappointing when people like Christopher Logan fire their rhetorical guns in ways that not only do a disservice to some fighting the threat of radical Islam, but actually serve more to divide the forces resisting the threat of radical Islam against each other. Mr. Logan’s recent “warning” to Brigitte Gabriel was just such a piece.

Let me begin with your consideration of these questions. How much did we hear about sharia law from the Muslim-American community 15 to 20 years ago? How much militancy emanated from that community 15 to 20 years ago? The answer: not much. So what has happened in the past 15 to 20 years?

To some degree, we don’t know how much, there is a transformation occurring within the Muslim-American community that people like Zuhdi Jasser is trying to fight and Mr. Logan does not see. It is fueled by foreign dollars, notably Saudi. It is fed by materials reflecting radical Wahhabism that have poured into mosques over the past 10 to 15 years. It is being led by imams from countries like Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, who have come over here in the past ten years in ever-increasing numbers. In other words, it’s a foreign-driven transformation of the Muslim-American community.

I have talked to Muslims who have told me they lost their mosques to radicals. These Muslims reflect Jasser’s approach to Islam, in that they want to practice its spiritual tenets but have no interest in agreeing with or supporting sharia law, jihad, and the unification of mosque and state. They also are reluctant to speak up. Brigitte Gabriel has talked to young Muslim women who reject militancy of older Muslims but who feel like they have no place to go.

Mr. Logan is correct when he lists all of the links he lists regarding sharia and militancy in America. At ACT! for America we take a backseat to no one when it comes to our dedication to fighting this threat AND our effectiveness in combating it. We know how serious it is and we know that reformist Muslims have an uphill battle. But where I differ with Mr. Logan is that I know there are moderate and reformist Muslims, and we lose nothing by supporting their efforts. For all we know they may well at one time have been the majority of Muslims in America. Today they are under siege – as evidenced by the response Dr. Jasser got from Muslims who were organized to attend Rep. King hearings. Many of them treated him with contempt because he dares to speak out against the Muslim Brotherhood, sharia law, and the like.

Mr. Logan makes a flawed comparison between Dr. Jasser and the supposed “moderate” Muslims in Europe and the UK. The Muslims those governments were reaching out to weren’t “moderates” – they were mostly connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. Dr. Jasser condemns the Muslim Brotherhood. President Obama relies on Muslim Brotherhood types to advise his administration. Dr. Jasser was removed from consideration for a State Department public liaison position by the Obama administration. Dr. Jasser and the American Islamic Leadership Council have endorsed ALAC – American Laws for American Courts. No Muslim Brotherhood, pro-sharia organizations have. I could go on but you get the point.

Dr. Tawfik Hamid, a sincere reformist Muslim who courageously speaks out and whom I consider a friend, told Brigitte and I that he knows for a fact that ACT! for America’s visibility, grassroots efforts, public relations, etc., are not only encouraging but pressuring Muslim dissent against what we call “radical Islam.” As I said, we take a back seat to no one when it comes to defining the threat, exposing the threat, and providing solutions to actually combat the threat. But, just as is the case in Judaism and Christianity, Muslims the world over, including here in America, vary greatly in their knowledge of and devotion to their religion. They are not a monolith. Supporting genuinely moderate and reformist Muslims does not mean that we misunderstand or minimize the threat that jihad and sharia pose, or that we offer “false hope.” We know the reformists have a steep, uphill battle, and contrary to Mr. Logan’s assertions, we are not crafting a strategy to resist radical Islam that banks on them winning. If we were we wouldn’t be doing all the things we are doing to fight this threat. But that doesn’t mean we don’t recognize those Muslims willing to stand against the Middle Eastern driven tide, and if we don’t support them, who will?

I agree that people like Zuhdi Jasser and Tawfik Hamid are taking positions contrary to historic, classical Islam and sharia law. That’s why Tawfik calls himself a “reformist.” That’s the point. And as long as groups like CAIR are treated as the voice of Muslims in America Muslims who agree with Jasser and Hamid will likely stay silent.

It’s easy for armchair quarterbacks like Mr. Logan to post on their blogs from the sidelines and snipe at those of us actually on the field fighting the fight. We have won victories in state legislatures for ALAC. We helped stop the transfer of Gitmo detainees to Michigan. We got Everett Community College in Seattle to distance itself from CAIR. We helped get free speech acts passed in Congress, NY, and Tennessee—legislation that protects authors from intimidation lawsuits filed in foreign countries. We got anti-Israel billboards taken down from buses in Seattle. In a very hard-won fight we got Tennessee’s anti-terrorism law beefed up over the vociferous opposition of a number of Islamic organizations in Tennessee. We are getting ready to launch the most ambitious attempt in American history to change how our public school textbooks treat Islam. I could go on and on but you get the point. We are dishonestly and viciously called an “Islamophobic hate group” because we are fighting the good fight and we are effectively pushing back. If we were as wishy washy as Mr. Logan suggests I doubt the “Fear, Inc.” report, an “anti-Islamophobic” report put out by a group funded by George Soros, would have listed us as the number one grassroots organization fighting radical Islam in the country.

Perhaps we could have been more clear in our email, and spelled out in more detail what we are seeing happening in the Muslim community in America. The point the email was trying to make is that the default position of too many in government, academia and the media, when they talk about Muslims in America, is to see only Muslim Brotherhood groups like CAIR and think they speak for all, or even most, Muslims. By taking this position these American institutions empower the very enemies we need to be fighting, and they exclude the genuine moderates we need to be encouraging.

Anyone who follows what we do and is honest in their appraisal would not characterize Brigitte Gabriel as a “queen of false hope.” ACT! for America is providing real hope – as evidenced by our growing number of victories and successes – based on an honest and realistic assessment of both the threat of radical Islam and the promotion of sincere reformist Muslims. These positions are not mutually exclusive, and they are proving to amount to far more hope – real hope — than Mr. Logan provides.

Guy Rodgers, Executive Director, ACT! for America

From my cell I wrote up a quick reply to Gabriel’s bodyguard Rodgers.

Good work on the sidestepping there. Obviously I do see the problem. That is why I have been speaking out on this issue for years. According to Islamic Law, if they deny even one Koran verse they have apostated. Guy Rodgers claims to have read the Reliance of the Traveller. So he should know that. The country loses valubale time when promoting these so called Muslims. It also provides false hope, as Islam is not going reform. Prove those Muslims in the UK are part of the MB. Your word alone means nothing. The UK has over 80 Sharia Courts, 50 public schools serving halal only, and entire neighbourhoods are changing to suit Islam. (If you want sources on that, just let me know) Once again, “moderates are not coming to the rescue. The upper echelon of ACT! is wishy washy. Look at the wording. “Radical Islam”, “Islamists”. I don’t remember those reading the words in the Islamic scriptures. The problem is Islam itself. Try being honest with America. We will never win a war if we can not even bring ourselves to name the enemy. I realize that ACT!has done some good, but in the end it will all be for nothing if Muslim immigration is not ended. As they will never stop pushing. ACT does not have the courage to call for that. In the end ACT has no real answers. As far as the “armchair quarterback” comment, I’m the one who goes into Mosques, I’m the one who shows up at pro-Islam rallies surrounded by thousands of people who cannot stand people who are as outspoken as me. Let me know when Guy does the same. ACT claimed Jasser truly represents the Muslim community in America. Yet you have not provided any proof of that. I will continue to expose ACT blatantly lying to America.

Gabriel’s henchmen never responded to my reply, but I would like to add a few more points now.

1. How does Guy know those “Muslims” are not just lying to him, like Mohammad instructed them to?

2. Why doesn’t Guy explain how Islam is reform?

3. Why doesn’t Guy explain how America is going to win this war if we do not end Muslim immigration?

4. In the end Jasser tries to protect Islam. Well the fact is that Islam itself is the problem. Are you denying that Guy?

Here is a clue Guy….take a LOOK at what Muslim immigration brings to the West. (Yes I realize that many in the videos were probably born in the countries, but bringing in more Muslims will just make things worse.)

UK:

USA:

I urge all reading to realize that if we do not end Muslim immigration, we will eventually lose this war. As they will never stop pushing. So I also urge all reading to echo my call to end Muslim immigration.

Now I will ask ACT! one more time. Provide the evidence that Jasser “truly” represents Muslims in America, retract the statement, or you are blatantly lying to America!

Next up: Did Brigitte Gabriel take a turn to the left?

  • AnnaDean

    The lines are getting very blurry! There is only one way: ban islam as a religion, since it is not a religion, but a political regime, with religious components! Ban the shit and clear the lines again!

    • http://www.jihadresistance.com/index.php? Mugrim

      Chris,
      What horseshit and platitudes. It’s easy for armchair quarterbacks like Mr. Logan to post on their blogs from the sidelines and snipe at those of us actually on the field fighting the fight.
      These ‘slicksters have lined their pockets via fear mongering and bloviation using an enchantress cheer leader.
      TRUTH: Islam is not MODERATE. Islam is not PEACEFUL! Islam cannot be SALVAGED!
      Consider the present period of world Islamic oppression and the 9/11/01 U.S. mass murders, in which all Muhammadan Muslim’s dignity and Islam’s credibility has been lost forever; totally unacceptable to all informed civilized humans. Be intolerant of it; an actual devious short circuit of the human conscience and a clear Manifesto of War!
      ANSWER: Stop Muslim immigration. Close the borders. Declare Islam a foreign organization and make them pay taxes. Remove “religious” status from Islam.
      http://www.jihadresistance.com/index.php?showtopic=26523&pid=93866&st=0&#entry93866

  • Christ’s Possession

    Christopher you are so bold and centered on the main issue… can anyone in islam ever be trusted? Christopher… keep up challenging ACT and anyone who needs to be reconsidering how they are operating in dealing with this threat of islam. I am a Christian and I don’t trust a religion that condone’s taqiyya (lying on behalf of allah). I find Christopher Logan as a man who directly questions those in islam and those fighting against islamic supremacists. If ACT would only understand that not being frank and honest will not win neither him nor those who read his words. We are waiting for an acknowledgement from ACT about can a faithful muslim (moderate or otherwise) be trusted if they are going to follow the koran and act accordingly.

  • Anna Dean

    It is exactly those “moderates”, that attack our police force to drop the police manual on islam, because they feel offended, by us trying to protect ourselves and America from islam! Moderates are there to modify islam for western consumption! And they are well educated, speak well, but on the end, they are protecting only one side – the one of islam! Remember lying is a duty to muslims to advance islam! Lying is in their nature! Dictated by the Koran! Specifically to advance islam in the west!

  • Roger Anderson

    “How much did we hear about sharia law from the Muslim-American community 15 to 20 years ago? How much militancy emanated from that community 15 to 20 years ago? The answer: not much. So what has happened in the past 15 to 20 years?”

    It is quite obvious that they know nothing about the history of islam and how it has been a major problem in the U.S. We have had the movement attempting to impose their laws and being involved in terrorism on U.S. soil for the last 40 yrs.

    Most people had their ears and eyes closed to it until after 9/11 and many still have them closed even now not wanting to accept the fact that there is a danger from islam.

    • admin

      Nice to see you around Roger. Hope all is well!

  • Melody

    Islam is not a religion. Since when do people start creating their own gods and become anointed as a religion? Absurd! The entire premise of the book is to wage war and bathe the earth in Islam. How is this lost on this woman? Is she selectively blind because she is from the region? I am going to guess yes. Islam is based on war and domination, no different than Hitler and their objective is not only to dominate the earth but to drive Israel into the sea. She is insane if she thinks educated people are buying this crap.

    • http://www.jihadresistance.com/index.php? Mugrim

      It is true, Islam is deadly and Muslims are ruthless murderers – killing those with the courage and character to expose them. But it is folly to believe these barbaric acts are perpetrated to serve the interests of the Saudi dictators rather than the Cause of Allah. Moreover, since 80%+ of the mosques in America are connected in one way or another to Saudi funds or sponsorship, how can “the majority of American Muslims” be “moderate?” Who is their prophet? Who is their god? What are their scriptures? If the answer to any of these is Muhammad, Allah, the Qur’an and Hadith, killing and maiming, their religion cannot be “moderate,” no matter how one defines the term. http://thereligionofpeace.com/

  • Chris Slick

    Christopher Logan is a man with radical views and has nothing better to do than to sit around and blog about other people like Brigitte Gabriel and Guy Rodgers who are actually making a tangible difference.

    • admin

      Hello Chris who works for ACT! I saw that you began following me on Twitter. What’s the matter, are you worried the truth will get out there? Taking a look at BG’s Facebook page, the country is waking up!

      http://loganswarning.com/2012/03/07/acts-brigitte-gabriel-calls-critics-of-jasser-bigots/

      Explain how America will win this war without ending Muslim immigration. Then explain how Islam is going to reform. Then name one Mosque that is stating they support Jasser, and a separation of Mosque and state.

      Do you actually think we will win this war without enacting tough measures?

      As for me, you might want to take a look at this list before you make such an ignorant comment.

      http://loganswarning.com/logans-warning-exclusive-reports/

      • Chris Slick

        I do not have a Twitter account. I am not sure what you are speaking about.

        Tougher measures for those entering our country legally? Yes, absolutely we need tougher measures. But banning an entire faith group from immigrating into our nation is not the answer. Furthermore it is an exceedingly dangerous idea. What would happen if we banned all Jews from entering America because of their faith? Or Protestants? Since when is targeting an entire faith group ever an acceptable idea in America?

        • admin

          OK, it was someone with a similar name then.

          Protestants and Jews are not not on a worldwide campaign threaten to impose a set of barbaric religious laws on all. Muslims are. So your comparison is not valid, and is more leftist talk. Just like Gabriel.

          Islam is at war with America, and being nice is not going to win this war. (That is not a call for violence.)

          • Chris Slick

            Protestants and Jews are no different from Muslims in that they are all equally protected under the law and may peacefully practice their religion. The analogy is absolutely appropriate. It’s bewildering to me that you don’t understand this basic concept of American law. It is clear your interpretation of religious liberty is not compatible with the Constitution. I feel that perhaps I cannot help you any further.

          • admin

            Once again, Protestants and Jews are not on worldwide campaigns threatening to impose barbaric religious laws on all. Muslims are. So try dealing in reality.

            It is bewildering that you cannot even begin to see that our laws are not cut out to win this war. Our laws have been turned into a tool for Islam, and the Constitution is not perfect, nor is it a death sentence. You can point at it as long as you want, it will not save America from Islam. It enables it. You have helped me greatly. You have continued to prove my point of just how weak the “leadership” of ACT! is. In no way will ACT! lead America to victory against Islam. Unlike ACT! I will name the enemy…..

          • Chris Slick

            You continue to live in a fact-free version of reality. All Muslims are not “on worldwide campaigns threatening to impose barbaric religious laws on all” as you erroneously suggest. Jews and Protestants here in America are protected under the same laws that protect those who practice Islam peacefully. You have advocated for the abolishment of religious liberty as granted by the Constitution. Do you realize how undeniably dangerous this would be for other faith based groups (especially Jews) besides that group (Muslims) which you seek to affect? Do you not understand the ramifications of such actions?

          • admin

            FACT: According to Islamic Law if a Muslim denies even one Koran verse they have apostated. So if they do not want Sharia, technically they are no longer a Muslim. Do you care to debate me on the Islamic scriptures? Or will you run like the rest of your team?

            FACT: Those other groups are not the problem.

            FACT: If Islam is not stopped it will abolish the religious liberty of all other religion. Pick a side…that is if you have the courage to.

          • Chris Slick

            What you fail to understand is that isn’t some contest in machoism for me. Of course I find some passages in Muslim Holy Books to be troubling – but that is not where we disagree. I am only interested in setting the record straight. You made a very serious allegation about Brigitte Gabriel that is false. You have refused to answer my questions and I will decline to participate in your witch hunt any further. Brigitte Gabriel is a heroin of America. I will not stand by while you trash her good name simply because she and her organization, ACT! for America refuse to hold to your dangerous belief that religious liberties granted by the Constitution should be trampled upon. Have a nice evening, Christopher.

          • admin

            “Some” passages?

            I used her own words, so try reality. I did answer your questions. Once again try reality.

            Witch hunt? LOL! Too funny…you might want to educate yourself on the issue. Muslims are taking over more more of the world. How much more of it do they have to take over, before you wise up?

            I really do not care what bothers you, or what you think about me. Getting the truth to the public is much more important. I will continue to expose Gabriel and her “moderate” Muslim fantasy.

          • admin

            Good working on ducking my questions, and running from a debate on Islam. No surprise though.

          • admin

            So ACT! supports Islam in America?

          • Chris Slick

            *Herione
            Forgive my auto correct for the error.

        • Chris Slick

          ACT! for America has always been very clear to define our enemy. The peaceful practice of Islam in America is something ACT! for America has never chided. Of course, you aren’t going to find a larger or more concerned and effective group of like minded Americans than the members of ACT! for America that are opposed to Sharia Law and radical Islam. Again, I can say this as many different ways as you would like. Our Mission and Values are clearly spelled out for you here: http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/about-act-for-america

          As a blogger you have taken a playbook from far left George Soros funded groups and have resorted to attacking ACT! for America for our positions. Again, we make no apologies for standing with our tens of thousands of members on principle and conviction.

          You may disagree and I respect your right to do so. My work is done here.

          • admin

            Guess what “Slick”, ACT! does not get to define what Islam is. Radical Islam? What’s the matter, BG will not let you say Islam? Because Islam is the threat, and if we cannot even name the enemy we will never win this war. It has been a threat to non-Muslims for 1400 years. Your missions and values will not win this war, and the public is waking up to that.

            All I have done is point out the weak positions of ACT!. It is you and BG that have come back with far left talk, and I am not the only one who sees that. She has been taking a beating on FB for over 24 hrs and was still cowardly deleting comments today.

            It really does not matter that ACT! has that many members, because its policies are not cut out to win this war. Thankfully I know PLENTY of ACT! members who do not parrot what your leader says. They clearly see what needs to be done to win this war, and echo my call to end Muslims immigration. They also know that Jasser is a waste of time, as “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue.

            “Your work” here and you ducking what the Islamic scriptures say and my questions, have only proven my point. I thank you!

          • admin

            Maybe ACT! would like to talk to some non-Muslim Europeans, and see how they feel about Muslim immigration and what it has done to their country.

            Politicians like the Great Geert Wilders are calling for an end of Muslim immigration. But apparently Chris Slick and ACT! know better….like I said, ACT! has no long term answers.

          • Chris Slick

            Christopher – You and others are free to form your own organization, build a worldwide network of affiliate Chapters, and accomplish major legislative feats. We encourage others to raise awareness and make a difference in the battle against Islamic radicalism. I am frankly embarrassed for you after reading your true feelings that we should abolish parts of the Constitution pertaining to religious liberty this evening. I am glad I could play a small role in setting the record straight.

            As for our Facebook pages: We have rules of conduct and Facebook has terms of use. As with other large national organizations we do our best to enforce those to the best of our ability. A small few have an uncanny way of losing their mental filter when they type on the internet and forget what is and isn’t acceptable. From time to time we have to remove Facebook users for violations. We encourage a robust but respectful debate.

          • admin

            ACT! is not the only game in town. There are others like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s SIOA.

            http://sioaonline.com/

            Was Mohammad just a “radical”? Come on Chris, stop running from questions. Not naming Islam itself as the problem is a PROVEN failure across the world.

            If Islam is not stopped there will be no US Constitution at all, and our future generations will have people like you to thank. You did not set anything straight, as I am very straight forward with my views.

            I know some of the people BG deleted, and they were respectful. So stop trying to cover for your boss.

          • admin

            Once again the viewers can see ACT! is OK with Islam being protected in America. Between that and more Muslim immigration, a sure death sentence. Excellent work on ducking what Muslim immigration has done to Europe. The policies of ACT! will allow the same to happen here.

          • admin

            She just banned Jarrad Winter and Melanie Oberg. They were respectful, and she even banned Melanie after she said she has helped ACT! in the past. The Queen does not like to be questioned. Too bad!

    • admin

      So ACT! thinks ending Muslim immigration is “radical”, and unnecessary?

      • Chris Slick

        It is certainly not an idea that ACT! for America has ever advocated.

        • admin

          Thanks!

          • Chris Slick

            If you have any further confusion you can check out our Mission and our Values here on our website: http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/about-act-for-america

          • admin

            This is no confusion on my end. I clearly see just how weak the upper echelon of ACT! is.

          • Chris Slick

            ACT! for America has not changed it’s Mission or Values since you became a member of our organization. We have remained steady and consistent throughout. We always hate to see members go but it is clear you do not share our values as outlined here: http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/about-act-for-america
            We make no apologies for our positions.

          • admin

            I make no apologies for pointing out just how weak the so called leadership of ACT! is.

  • http:julietsm.wordpress.com/ julietsm

    I just posted a ridiculous comment on FB, “Perhaps Jasser is really an apostate?” I was politely corrected: Jasser promotes the idea that there are ‘moderate muslims’ and that is just a crock.
    I stand corrected for my stupid comment.
    I have known all along that islam itself is the problem and no muslim can trusted. If Jasser WAS an apostate that would be different.
    We should be urging Christians in the Middle East to emigrate here; and end ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION and deport those that are here. They haven’t changed in 1400 years and as long as they think that pigmo was ‘the perfect man’ and think that emulating him is the way to go, they can be nothing but our enemies. I believe we are not too far from an American Holocaust, and are going to see millions die. I pray that before that happens, the criminal in the White House is recognised for the enemy he is, and all of the ummah as well. They are the enemy and have to go.

  • http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/ Dajjal

    Dr. Jasser wants Isdamn to be an apolitical personal religion. It is not, never was and can not be so.

    Islam was created in a tribal culture, based on a tribal moon cult. It is therefore communal, not individual.

    Isdamn was created for the purpose of propagating & perpetuating conquest for the personal emolument of its founder. It is, in fact, an Arab Mafia with a religious component which serves as a control mechanism, troop motivator and camouflage.

    Let Hamid, Jasser & co. tell me exactly how they hope to improve upon perfection: 5:3. Isdamn is “perfected for you”. Allah’s word can not be changed. None can change it. Anyone who tries is “far removed from mercy”.

    • admin

      Hey Dajjal!

      “Let Hamid, Jasser & co. tell me exactly how they hope to improve upon perfection: 5:3. Isdamn is “perfected for you”. Allah’s word can not be changed. None can change it. Anyone who tries is “far removed from mercy”.

      Very good comment. I doubt that you will get a response though.

  • Christ’s Possession

    Brigitte Gabriel,

    You have a public relations nightmare on your hands. You have managed to piss off high level people in the fight against islamic supremacy. You have shown a lack of professionalism and Christian humility in blocking off of dissent. Perhaps you really need to remember those days in Lebanon when islam came knocking on your door and when many of those you loved were killed by those who loved the koran.

    You have alarmed us. We fear you have lost your perspective and discernment. And worst of all you have lost your fear of islam. They ALL follow the same book. Moderates still follow the koran and allah is still their prophet. A prophet that slept with a 9 yr old child. His religion still cuts off the genitalia of a massive amount of women. His religion still hangs homosexuals. Stones still kill raped women who don’t have 4 male witnesses. And it is with us you have what exact problem? God has revealed your weakness and it is not with us… it is with them.

    This is just my opinion… ignore it I really don’t care anymore.

    • admin

      Hi Christ’s Possession!

      You are correct, she is on a deleting and blocking binge on Facebook. She is out of control and coming off completely unprofessional. Angering a lot of people.

      Thanks for the kind words earlier!

  • emmi

    Chris Slick needs to read the Muslim Brotherhood’s plan for an Islamic West uncovered by your FBI, which your President appears to be ignoring.
    I can’t remember the exact words but it boils down to :
    1. Quietly lay the infrastructure for an Islamic takeover
    2. Get into positions of authority/influence
    3. Then openly state what Muslim demands and intentions are
    4 . Take over, some Muslim leaders say with violence if necessary.

    Come to the UK and see what is happening, see how the EU prevents us from deporting terrorists who are preaching hate. Go to Malmo, Sweden.
    Islam has different laws from us, which include taking and raping underage girls and we have that in the UK. What sort of religion presses for the barbaric sharia law?

  • Michael C

    “Islam is not a religion…”

    Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, adviser to Muslim Brotherhood

    The full quotation is as follows:

    “Islam is not a religion in the common, distorted, meaning of the word, confining its scope only to the private life of man. …..it is a complete way of life …individual and social, material and moral, economic and political, legal and cultural, national and international.” bsimmons.wordpress.com 23 Oct 2011

    The Constitution protects private conscience: that is what “religion” is in Western law There is nothing “distorted” about that definition. Islam, however, does not have freedom of conscience. The Muslim community

    “possesses no power except to acknowledge and obey,”

    Dr Salah al Sawy, Association of Muslim Jurists of America
    (AMJA), 28 March 2011

    Koran 33:36
    “It is not fitting for a Muslim man or woman to have any choice in their affairs when a matter has been decided for them by Allah and His Messenger. They have no option.”

    Anjem Choudary explains what Islam is about:

    “As long as we can function as an ideological political movement..”

    BBC Newsnight Jan 2010

    A complete political system is not a religion as defined in law. The Constitution does not protect a rival totalitarian ideological political movement.

    The Constitution grants charitable status to mosques. For anyone who leaves Islam the penalty is to be killed. That is not charitable. Of the “charity” money, zakat, collected in mosques (which is obliged to be for muslims only), a portion goes to fund Jihad. That is not charitable, but criminal: it is also unconstitutional.

    It is a serious mistake to continue to confer privileged charity status and religion status to an organisation that does not qualify for it.

    The “moderate muslims” are failing to argue for this.

    Lawyers, give this your attention!

    • Mike Elmore

      Chris,
      If you really want to fight the biggest deception about Islam go no farther than the Catholic Church. I’ve seen no bigger group of dimmies than the Catholic leadership. There has been some writings of late about this on different websites and it’s about time. Unfortunately, I don’t agree with Robert Spencer on his interpretation, I do realize that Spencer has forgotten more about Islam than I know but being an ex Catholic I do have something to say about Vatican II and how I interpret it. Which is to say that if the Catholic Church doesn’t step it at some point soon and take a hard line on Islam then this fight we are fighting is never going to be won. To many Catholic will just follow the modern day Christian ideas of forgiving and forgetting and the moral equivalency thinking that all religions are the same and that it’s just a few misguided Muslims that are causing all the problems. The Church could change this in one Sunday mass. I would just like to remind people that the fight for the survival of Western Civilization is one where we are all at risk and if we don’t hang together we will all hang separately. elmore

      • admin

        Mike,

        It amazes me how the Vatican just sits there and does little to nothing as Europe slowly gets devoured by Islam. They should be pressuring the EU and it’s states to end Muslim immigration. They should also be sending out busloads full of people across Europe, on a daily basis to combat the threat of Islam.

  • Michael C

    Interviewer:

    “What are the stakes, Professor ?”

    Professor Bernard Lewis, of Princeton:

    “The survival of our civilisation.”

    Youtube IslamandWorldPeace 2009

  • http://www.muccings.blogspot.com gfmucci

    I’ve had a problem with ACT’s misidentification of “the Islamic problem” since I first explored that organization several years ago. They insist on referring to the problem as “radical Islam.” They insist that all other forms of “Islam” are hunky dory. Once the goon thug bombers and intolerant mad dogs disappear, what’s left will be the OK Islam, and all will be fine.

    But the reality is there IS NO “Radical Islam.” Islam is Islam. What we see in the bombers and mad dogs is just one aspect of Islam. Peel away these layers and you have Muhammad, his life and teachings – the real Islam – which promotes and motivates the bombers and mad dogs, and intolerance, and Sharia law, and all the rest.

    A few years back when I was exploring ACT, I questioned Rogers on why they refer to the problem as “radical Islam” and not just “Islam” since what we call “the radicals” is Muslims informed and motivated by Islam. In reply, Rogers urged me not get involved in ACT until I can gain an appreciation for their way of doing things because my attitude toward Islam might detract from ACTs message and effectiveness. I needed to mature a bit more and become more sophisticated in my understanding of Islam and how one approaches the problem.

    I suppose I could become as sophisticated as Mitt Romney and proclaim, like he does, that “Jihad is no part of Islam.” The Romney campaign claims a high degree of sophistication in dealing with the Islamic problem. Unfortunately, that much sophistication creates a lie.

    I prefer to deal in facts and truth and logic.

    ACT is not truth telling. ACT is ignoring the truth of Islam. And even when ACT glosses over the root of the problem, Islam, to avoid criticism, ACT is STILL condemned by Muslims and their sympathizers. How is that working out? Don’t forget: Any insult, real or imagined, is worthy of beheading.

    Zudhi Jasser proclaims he is a “devout Muslim.” Jasser is as devout a Muslim as Joy Behar is a devout Catholic. Jasser represents a model Muslim as much as Behar represents a model Catholic. Neither is and neither do. “Typical”, maybe, in that neither practices their faith as it is strictly taught by the leading authorities within their respective groups. It appears that neither holds orthodox views of their respective faiths. In Jasser’s case, since he proclaims he is a “devout” Muslim, we have to sincerely question the truthfulness of what he says and the motivation for what he does. At best, he is an enigma who is confusing a lot of people.

    And neither is Jasser reforming Islam. “Reform” means going back to the original as in the protestant reformation of the Catholic Church.

    Islam has been in a reformation process for the last several decades. It is coming out of its slumber of the prior centuries. It has been reforming itself back to the original supremacist, intolerant, political, militaristic ideology as modeled by Muhammad.

    Jasser is trying to re-make Islam into something it never was at its beginnings and never can become without becoming something other than Islam.

    It is confusing and divisive for ACT to pursue a course that avoids the truth about the historic ideology that defines Islam and defines and motivates the huge majority of the 1.5 billion who call themselves Muslim – followers of Muhammad.

    No, Islam as not a monolithic ideology. There are those like Jasser who do not practice orthodox Islam. Making matters worse, calling himself “a devout Muslim” one has to question his credibility.

    Such men as Jasser do not define Islam . It is a huge error to pretend he does.

    • admin

      Hi gfmmuci!

      Guy Rodgers needs to lose the attitude, and realize that not everyone is going to bow to the Queen of False Hope Brigitte Garbriel. I remember when Romney made that ridiculous statement. How can he be trusted?

      Thanks for your honesty!

  • erna

    BG deleted persons,falsely accusing them for being disrespectful and yet she uses the slang word for urinate. On this term alone I dismiss her (act) as insincere. Walif Sultan an emminent Phycician, Psychiatrist,Apologist, raised in Islam and now exposing the mortal danger that Islam is stated,”know your enemy which is Islam and there is no such thing as a moderate Islam”, end of quote. Mrs Sultan stated that her mother still practices her muslim religion as she is illiterate. The question now arises, has BG read the Koran,Hadith ect. in arabic? She should be fluent in arabic to communicate with her ? Moderates ?, or would that be too disturbing, or perhaps the english version of the Koran is more cornsyrup coated.

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    • admin

      Zuhdi Jasser tries to cover for Islam itself, and Islam itself is the problem. That makes him part of the problem. You see here people are allowed to speak the truth. Islam is the threat. But I have heard Brigitte the Queen of False Hope, who cannot deal with criticism orders her people to say “radical Islam”. Have you ever spoken to non-Muslims who are new to the subject? A lot of them are looking for “moderates” to save the day. ACT! is lying to America while spreading false hope. ACT! is also in favor of Muslim immigration. All one has to do is look at Europe to see that Muslim immigration is a Trojan Horse, and ACT! spokesperson Chris Slick actually compared Muslim immigration to Jewish immigration. How absurd. ACT! has no long term answers, and their attempts at damage control does not change that.

    • admin

      Hi,

      No offense to you, but how long long have some of those people on that list been pushing “moderate” Islam line of thinking? Doing so is waste of time. Hopefully they will realize that soon.

  • emmi

    Chris. Thanks for the links on March 8 .

    • admin

      You’re welcome.

  • emmi

    Chris Slick needs to come to the UK. No other group or immigrants give us as much grief as Muslims. They carry banners stating that our 9/11 is coming and that democracy can go to hell. They spit at our soldiers and show contempt for our police, who are guarding them and their ugly mosques with more consideration than is shown to the rest of us. They have forced the cruelly produced halal meat on this country. If they don’t speak out against the violence and ingratitude shown by Muslims in the
    UK, it is because they are secretly waiting for the thugs to take over, fight their battle for them and bring the infidels to Allah and enjoy all the benefits our ancestors fought for. Don’t think it is not the same in America, it is. The difference is that an underhand takeover is not so apparent in the USA, due to that country’s size, but it is happening. And IMO ALL Muslims will rejoice if you allow and encourage it.
    A ‘moderate’ Muslim when he was an MP, stated that the British Parliament would be entirely Muslim in 10years’ time, inshallah. This man was no activist or rabble rouser. He just wants the UK to be governed by backward people so that we all spend our days worshipping Allah. Wake up and frustrate their jihads.

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      Thanks mates! We are in this together!