MuslimVoices.org ~ IslamiCON ALERT!!

Today Logan’s Warning is forced to issue ANOTHER IslamiCON ALERT! The target is MuslimVoice.org, and their attempt to whitewash Islam.

Let’s take a look at this video, point by point.

1. At the 00:27 mark, the commentator says people think that Islam creates “crazy people”.

Mohammad sure sounds crazy to me.

Bukhari Hadith Volume 8, Book 82, Number 822:
Narrated Abu Huraira and Said bin Khalid:
The verdict of Allah’s Apostle was sought about anunmarried slave girl guilty of illegal intercourse. He replied, “If she commits illegal sexual intercourse, then flog her (fifty stripes), and if she commits illegal sexual intercourse (after that for the second time), then flog her (fifty stripes), and if she commits illegal sexual intercourse (for the third time), then flog her (fifty stripes) and sell her for even a hair rope.” Ibn Shihab said, “I am not sure whether the Prophet ordered that she be sold after the third or fourth time of committing illegal intercourse.”

2. At the 00:32 mark the woman says “Islam is not a religion of compulsion.” What she does not tell you is that Islamic Law is to be forced on non-Muslims. As per Koran verse 9:29.

3. At the 00:38 mark the man then states it’s a “deliberate mischaracterization of Islam”. YES! The mainstream media is spreading misinformation about Islam. Thanks for your honest sir!

4. At the 00:45 mark the young lady says Islam is not an oppressive ideology. Once again, please refer to Koran verse 9:29. I also challenge anyone to find one “version” of Sharia Law that does not include jizya.

5. At the 00:56 mark a woman named Salena try to tell us that Islam is not inherently violent. Well, the Islamic scriptures say differently!

Bukhari Hadith Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25: Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.”

Salena says that every religion has had its “violent phases”. The only problem is that Islam has been violent for 1400 years. It’s not going to change.

6. At the 1:10 mark the man claims the “misunderstanding” comes from a lack of knowledge. OK, then you should have no problem showing up here to debate me…..

7. At the 1:17 mark the girl says people say we are “all radicals”. So my question to her is, do you condemn Sharia Law?

8. For the woman at the 1:23 mark…I have proven Islam is a violent religion.

9. For the guy are the 1:35 mark. The Koran and ahadith are first-hand sources. Try again.

10. For the woman at the 1:40 mark. I know Muslims and knowing them does not eliminate the threat of Islam.

11.For the lady at the 1:50 mark. It does not matter where Muslims are from. They follow the Koran.

12. At the 2:05 mark, the mans says Islam is a religion of peace. Of course he does not tell us that “peace” is to be forced upon non-Muslims.

13. To my lady friend at the 2:25 mark. Was Mohammad the self-professed terrorist an “extremist”?

Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

What was the common denominator between the people in the video? They proved nothing as they did no better than say Islam is misunderstood. When a Muslim does this, please ask them the tough questions. Thank you!

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24 comments for “MuslimVoices.org ~ IslamiCON ALERT!!

  1. May 4, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    “What do you think people misunderstand most about Islam?”

    My answer: It’s teachings.

    “I think people think Islam creates crazy people. And it doesn’t.”

    So, Muslims strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves and other people up is not crazy? And Muslim men marrying little girls is not crazy? OK…

  2. May 4, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    “Islam is not a religion of compulsion. You’re not forced to do anything.”

    So, in Islam, no one is forced to, for example, be beaten? What about when, in 2001, Iranian officials sentenced 3 men to flogging not only for illicit sex, but also for drinking alcohol? Or in 2005, when in Nigeria a sharia court ordered that a drinker should be caned 80 strokes? Or in 2005, in the Indonesian province of Aceh, when 15 men were caned in front of a mosque for gambling?

    Or when a poor ‘criminal’ was brought to Muhammad who became angry?:
    The Prophet felt it hard (was angry) and ordered all those who were present in the house, to beat him [the drinker dragged into Muhammad’s presence]. (Bukhari, Punishments, nos. 6774—6775)

    Or what about this command in the Qur’an? to beat your wives?:
    4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (MAS Abdel Haleem, the Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)

  3. May 4, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    “I think that most people, uh, misunderstand Islam as being an oppressive ideology, rather than a religion that has, uh, believers who interpret the religion differently.”

    I wonder…is cutting off the hands of thieves, crucifying or amputating those who “wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land,” branding people’s eyes, or killing homosexuals, considered oppressive?

    The Quran says:
    5:38 Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise. 39 But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)

    5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter, 34 unless they repent before you overpower them: in that case bear in mind that God is forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)

    Narrated Anas: Some people . . . came to the Prophet and embraced Islam . . . [T]hey turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away . . . The Prophet ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they died. (Bukhari, Punishments, no. 6802)

    If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done (Abu Dawud no. 4447).

    Ibn Abbas and Abu Huraira reported God’s messenger as saying, ‘Accursed is he who does what Lot’s people did.’ In a version . . . on the authority of Ibn Abbas it says that Ali [Muhammad’s cousin and son—in—law] had two people burned and that Abu Bakr [Muhammad’s chief companion] had a wall thrown down on them. (Mishkat, vol. 1, p. 765, Prescribed Punishments)

  4. eib
    May 4, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Quote:
    34 unless they repent before you overpower them: in that case bear in mind that God is forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)
    end quote.

    There is no repentance in Islam.
    There is only submission.

  5. Skipping Girl
    May 4, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    So all the school girls who were kept inside a burning school and died because they were not appropriately dressed, they were not forced to wear the hijab? Aah the compassionate religion of peace. Get lost muslims you are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

  6. Skipping Girl
    May 4, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    The thing muslims misunderstand is that we do understand!

  7. May 5, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Or maybe I am confused. When Osama bin Ladden was yet alive and killing the infidel Americans, some Muslims says he’s NOT a Muslim and said Muslims do not kill etc.

    But when the news spread that Osama bin Ladden was dead, they were ALL SILENT and SAD. Never had anyone really rejoiced about the news.

    Did I misunderstand Muslims in General? Or they really condoned the representation of Islam through violent Jihad?

    I pray that God may give me understanding that I may not judge people of other faiths but lead them to peace and friendship with other faiths, for that’s what my Catholic teachings taught me.. and that God never is happy with killings and violence.

    • eib
      May 5, 2011 at 4:41 am

      Quote:
      I pray that God may give me understanding that I may not judge people of other faiths
      end quote.

      Please read Matthew 7.
      Jesus knew that false prophets would come after him.
      He told Christians to “judge them by their fruits.”
      As a Christian, you have every right to judge Islam.

      • mike
        May 20, 2011 at 3:59 am

        great observation,we need to educate muslims to the lies of their faith.but that only enrages them.they are brainwashed from childhood to hate all.

    • eib
      May 5, 2011 at 4:45 am

      Another pregnant question:
      Does God speak only Arabic?
      Read the Quran.
      What are the differences between the deity described in the Quran with the one described in the OT and then NT?
      Why do these differences exist?
      There are real historical reasons for why Allah is the way he is.
      There is truly a theological and cultural conflict between Islam and the West.
      It is not superficial– not just “gender” and political issues.
      It goes very, very deep.

  8. MN
    May 5, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Hey Chris,
    .
    I guess you must already be well-acquainted with FFI & Dr. Ali Sina. If you’ve not, you could check out some of the resources either at alisina.org or at faithfreedom.org
    .
    Dr. Sina is a Persian / Iranian apostate of Islam & recent published a post about his own travel from reversion to Islam to aversion of Islam.
    .
    That gentleman has debated many Muslims & non-Muslim-apologists for years now.
    .
    Just a quick info I wanted to share.
    .
    MN

  9. New Crusader
    May 5, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Let’s see…. 72 virgins for martyrdom, body bombing is martyrdom, shouting allahu akbar, “smiting the head and fingertips”, instructions for destroying animals after you sodomize them, honor killing, mahdi lives in a well, Jesus comes back to establish islam, rape, cutting off opposing hand and foot, standing with qur’an on head brings light, beating women, burying people alive, burying women half way and stoning to death, stoning, dancing on flags, burning people alive, burning people in effigy while rioting, killing for offending islam, killing for not wanting to kill for offending islam, burning churches, murdering innocent people then burning their bodies and hanging their burned corpses from a bridge, hating all jews, hating all “crusaders”, willfully wanting to subdue and dominate everyone who is not muslim, baca bazi, baca razi, multiple wives (that’s crazy enough right there). And the list goes on.

    But what can I say? You are absolutely right – isalm doesn’t make you crazy.
    It makes you stupid, then it makes you crazy, then it turns you into a murdering lunitic.

  10. desertscout
    May 6, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Islam is pagan; and one of the most violent forms of paganism that currently exists on the planet. Muslims are free to be peaceful if they choose to be peaceful; however there are many Muslims who justify their violence with the same Qur’an that the peaceful claim as their holy book. Islam’s deity is nothing more that an evil Middle Eastern principality (an evil djinn), and is not the same as the Deity of the Sinai Covenant as Muslims mistakenly assert. Muhammad was not the one to come as spoken of by Moshe, nor was he the ‘paraclete’ spoken of by Yeshua. Therefore, IMO, Islam is nothing more than a mishmash of Arabian Nights fairy tales made up by an illiterate, pagan prophet (so called) who was deceived by an evil ‘angel of light.’ Prophecy foretold the coming of deceivers like Muhammad centuries before he showed up. There’s nothing new here!!!

    • eib
      May 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm

      Quote:
      Muslims are free to be peaceful if they choose to be peaceful; however there are many Muslims who justify their violence with the same Qur’an that the peaceful claim as their holy book.
      end quote.

      This makes the criminality of those who choose the sword and conquest so much blacker.
      And I’ve written time and again that Allah is an elemental spirit, a spirit of the world, certainly not the God who created heaven and earth.

  11. Mickey Oberman
    May 6, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Daily we misunderstanders of Islam read about the violence, horrors, murders and cruelty worldwide of Muslims.
    The miniscule number of the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world who do speak out against Muslim atrocities are as a raindrop in the ocean. Their numbers are so insignificant that they are pathetically.
    The duplicity of so many Muslim criminals makes it almost impossible for an infidel to trust any Muslim.
    Islam continues to spread intolerance, discrimination, fear and hatred at an ever increasing rate.
    Where are all the “good” Muslims if they exist? Why are they silent? Why do they not loudly and clearly denounce and condemn those who besmirch the name of Islam?

  12. DanS.
    May 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Where’s Vin Diesel when you need him?

    Riddick would finish off these Necromongers, one, two, three!!

    Watch “Chronicles of Riddick” again – this time muslims = necromongers, eh? Have I just twisted your mind a bit?

    • May 8, 2011 at 1:37 am

      I have waited years for a new sequel. Diesel has only made crappy movies after that one. He seriously needs to take on Richard B Riddick again to revive his failed movie career.

  13. May 6, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Over and over I hear that Islam is the religion of peace. I’ve been waiting for a long time for Muslims to prove it. When Muslims?

    Notice that all hell is breaking loose all over the Muslim countries. These Islamist idiots are killing each other. Whom should we blame for this Islamic turmoil? I don’t see Catholic warring against Catholics. I don’t see Protestants warring against Protestants. I don’t see Bhuddists warring against Buddhists. I don’t see Taoists warring against Taoists. In fact I don’t see any other religion warring against itself. But I sure as hell see Muslims warring against each other. Now, Muslim boys and girls, prove to me that Islam is the religion of peace. Islam is the religion of war, violence, brutality, rape.

  14. IainUK
    May 7, 2011 at 12:05 am

    A nice little anagram to get your Saturday off to a cheerful start.

    Osama Bin Laden – Lob da man in sea

    • Skipping Girl
      May 7, 2011 at 2:48 am

      Very good Iain LOL

    • May 8, 2011 at 1:32 am

      This sheepish anagram is a bit lame though, Baa, islam done.

      • May 8, 2011 at 1:42 am

        My only excuse is that english is not my mother-tongue and I made it in just a couple of minutes. LOL!

        • Skipping Girl
          May 9, 2011 at 6:04 am

          Ha ha
          Here is one I just worked out

          Mo- aladinsane = b 4 bastard

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