Brigitte Gabriel Responds to Logan’s Warning

The other I received the following email in response to my “Brigitte Gabriel: “Radicals are Hijacking the Agenda”, “Moderates” the Answer”, article.

I tried to post the following on your blog tonight from Brigitte Gabriel, but for whatever reason it will not take it. Any assistance you could provide would be helpful. Thanks.

Hal Weatherman
National Communications and Marketing Director
Act for America

In response to your blog posting regarding my recent interview of Dr. Tawfik Hamid, I point out the following. Dr. Hamid is courageous. He is openly calling for reformation within his faith. You might disagree or decide that it is not possible, but I welcome his call. If that draws your criticism, so beit. I think we owe it to him and to anyone else within the Muslim community who has the courage to openly speak out against the radicalization we see happening in America today, to give them an ear to that voice.

I know you welcome his call, and that is the problem. You know full well it is not happening. So why are you so eager to spread false hope in regards to this crucial issue? Two years ago you said “The moderate Muslims at this point are truly irrelevant.” Can you now explain why they are relevant? What have they accomplished over the past two years within the Muslim community? Can you name just one U.S. Mosque that supports Jasser or Hamid? After that, please explain how non-Muslims promoting these so called “moderate” Muslims is going to get Muslims to stand with them? Why are they always looking to be in the company of non-Muslims, instead of Muslims? That is exactly what “Muslims Against Sharia” used to do. Another organization that was a complete waste of time.

To imply from my remarks, when I said, “Radicals are hijacking the agenda,” that I or Act for America are now somehow softening our stance against the ideology driving acts of jihad is nonsense. (I suggest you read chapter three of my last book: They Must Be Stopped) for how bluntly I address the nature of the threat.

Send me a copy and I will read it.

Christopher Logan
P.O. Box 313336
Jamaica, NY 11431

Thank you.

The agenda of Ataturk who secularized Turkey, Sadat who signed a peace treaty with Israel, King Hussein and later his son King Abdullah who have a peace treaty with Israel, the Iranian overthrown Shah and many other westernized Arab leaders has been hijacked and replaced by Khomeini, and now radical Islamic groups who are adhering to a fundamentalist (7th Century) interpretation of Islam as detailed in the Koran, Hadith and Sira.

Ataturk died in 1938, Sadat in 1981, we have been paying Jordan off since 1952, and a recent poll from Jordan showed us some disturbing but no surprising news.

According to the survey, majorities in Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan and Nigeria would favor changing current laws to allow stoning as a punishment for adultery, hand amputation for theft and death for those who convert from Islam to another religion.

Are you actually supporting the two-faced King Abdullah? Have you forgotten how non-Muslims are treated in Saudi Arabia?

You are really reaching here. Unbelievable. All you have proven is that “moderates” are not coming to the rescue. As things are clearly getting worse across the world.

Many Egyptians, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians and others across the world are not ready yet to give up their music, dancing, laughter, movie theaters and restaurants that serve alcohol. Even in Lebanon where Hezbollah isalmost controlling the country right now, there are Muslims who still go to the beach in their Bikinis, party at nightclubs and drink alcohol. Just Google former Prime Minister Harriri’s daughters and family members. Just look at Queen Rania of Jordan and most women in the Jordanian royal family who looklike they stepped out of the front page of Vogue Magazine. Just look at Ms.America, a Muslim Shiite from South Lebanon. She isn’t covering in a burka anytime soon.

What you have mentioned means little to nothing. Islam is still marching across the world, and while I wish them the best, I am much more concerned with what is happening in the West. Not all Germans were Nazis, and not all Japanese were Imperialists. But there comes a point in time where it does not matter. We are there now. It is time to stop dancing around the issue, and call the ideology by its name. That name is Islam! It’s time to stop spreading false hope by promoting so called “moderates”, and time to call for the tough measures that are needed to win this war. Like making our country self reliant, and drilling to end the need for Islamic oil. Then calling for an end to Muslim immigration. Just like Geert Wilders has done. Do you want to wait until things are as bad here as they are across Europe, before tough measures are called for?

However, as radicals organize and become funded to the tune of billions buying weaponry and power all over the Islamic world, they are threatening the self described moderate Muslims, silencing them in sheer intimidation, and attacking them all over the world for their stand, even here in America. Just look what happened at Peter King’s hearing, where the courageous few Muslim individuals who dared testify as to the intimidation and tactics used by radicals in their community, were themselves ridiculed, mocked, scoffed at and insulted by members of their own Muslim community for their testimony.

That’s because the Muslim community does not care what your so called “moderate friends” have to say about Islam reforming. They stand against it happening. Thanks for proving my point.

As much as we demand that self described moderate Muslims step forward and make their voice heard, we owe it to those few who are willing to do so to give them aplatform and magnify their voice so others may be encouraged. If those few who are stepping forward are going to be mocked and ridiculed by those of us who call for reform on top of the attacks from their own community, they are going to stop speaking.

Please speak for yourself. I do not owe the Islamic world a thing. They had 1400 years to change their ways. It is not happening. But you continue to spread false hope….

Do I believe that these reformists face an uphill battle within their own faith community? Yes. Am I going to stop mobilizing the nation through ACT! for America because we now have a few moderates starting to speak out? Of course not. I will do everything I can to mobilize and organize my own house and community to stand up to the threat of Islamic radicalism. But while I do that, I believe I should give Muslim reformists a voice, hoping they can rally others who think like them to join them? I owe it to them and I owe it to my country and my children to try to empower those few poor souls who are laying their life on the line going against their own people and religious upbringing in their call for reforming the religion. Brigitte Gabriel

You should owe your country and children the truth! The truth is that “moderates” are not coming to the rescue. You also miss the point that Jasser and the Dr. are actually promoting Islam. Why would team up with anyone who is promoting Islam, when Islam itself is the problem? Why don’t you ask them tough questions? Why don’t you ask them how they can honor Mohammad the rapist? One would think they would run as far as they could from a man like Mohammad. Start with that one, and please let me know their response…

Thanks for responding, have a good day.

Chris

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37 comments for “Brigitte Gabriel Responds to Logan’s Warning

  1. Diane Pascaretti
    March 30, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    I really admire Brigitte but agree with Logan. This Muslim threat is far too great to waste time on people who would serve to mislead, or offer false hope. We should all stand together in this effort. We appreciate your effort Logan and Brigette not to forget Peter King as well. Thank you

  2. New Crusader
    March 30, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    I also appreciate the work of Gabriel and others, but lets face it, if islam is all that open to moderation than Lebanon would not be what it is today. Harriri and others would be alive to talk about it as well. The day may well have come when the bikinied muslims will have to make a choice – a choice with thier lives, which way do you think they will go?

  3. boniferous
    March 30, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I wonder where those moderate Muslims were that helped her out of Lebanon? It wasn’t Muslims at all. It was the Israelis. Why does she pursue this agenda? She should know better. Does she not remember it was ‘moderate’ Muslims who gave birth to all those Muslim babies that took over her country of origin and killed her family?

  4. MN
    March 30, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I posted elsewhere a comment about 2 videos on YouTube. It’s about a lonely white Christian Norwageian kid.
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    “http://viewed-thru-saffron-glasses.blogspot.com/2011/03/lonely-white-native-norwageian-boy.html”
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    Moderates might also be using ‘al taqqiya’ – anything AND THAT MEANS ****ANYTHING**** is fit to be used if your aim / goal is to promote Islam.
    .
    Today, the moderates want your support & a platform. Tomorrow, they’ll want you & your children, family to convert to Islam – so you can all *UNITE* & prove to those radicals, how *peaceful* Islam is.
    .
    Guess what happens next? Booooom.. a bomb or a fool goes off – and ends up killing the *moderate* hero. Example – murder of 2 political leaders of Pakistan that spoke against their barbaric Blasphemy law.
    .
    Valid points from Logan,
    A. What’s the *authority* of these so-called Moderates?
    B. Can they go against what has been written in al-Quran-e-Majheed?
    C. God forbid, but should these 1z 2z men & women be killed – who will lead their *reformist* movement from within Islam? Mind you, as a non-Islamist, you & I aren’t even allowed to *comment* on reforming Islam.
    D. Has the Quran specified that it’s verses are to be updated / reformed – or has it said that it is the word of God and should be followed *for eternity*?
    MN

  5. John Sobieski
    March 30, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Brigette will find this is a dead end. It’s true. I hate it because we all wish Islam could reform but it’s not in the cards. I agree Brigitte needs to ask hard questions of these ‘moderates.’ They are confused.

  6. eib
    March 30, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Quote:
    The agenda of Ataturk who secularized Turkey,

    end quote.

    I’d like to address this example.
    Mustafa Kemal Ataturk did not secularize Turkey easily. The fact is that as a leader, he had to be feared to introduce his reforms.
    Similarly, in the example of the Hashemites of Jordan, and particularly in the case of Hussein, he had to solidify his regime by way of fear.
    Bashar el-Assad’s father, Hafez el Assad, had no problem with fundamentalist Islam . . . not because he was a great reformer, but because he was very good at using the techniques of terror and mass murder against its adherents.
    Even in the case of Anwar Sadat, this leader, forward-looking as he is in history, had to solidify his power by placing a large number of people under his boot, one of which was Sayid Quttb, one of the ideological fathers of radical Islam as we understand it.
    It is said that Quttb was merely an advocate of another Muslim perspective before he was imprisoned.
    The brutality of prison life radicalized Quttb, and wove a spell of hatred that the world has yet to free itself from.
    Are these strong men moderates?
    No.
    They were men of power legitimizing their leadership through fear.
    It really matters little about their reforms, because these would be undone by the resentment of their victims in “revolution”.
    The “strong man” model of reform is not reform in the West.
    We understand the dynamics of it differently– and chiefly as being from the bottom up, from the people to constructed authority.
    Islam boasts no such history or dynamic. Even though it might pretend it.

    • Samira
      April 27, 2011 at 2:59 pm

      Ataturk secularized Turkey very simply: He went into all the villages and hung the Imams in the public squares and destroyed the mosques. Maybe that is the direction we will need to pursue if it gets any worse!!

      • eib
        April 27, 2011 at 4:18 pm

        Please note that Ataturk was part of a movement that began in the Ottoman military establishment. It’s not surprising that after several centuries of Ottoman rule Turkey would be modernized partly by brutal means. The brutality of the society was not something Ataturk introduced. It always existed.

  7. eib
    March 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Study the history of reform in the West versus that of reform in the Orient.
    You will find a world of difference.

  8. Michael Elmore
    March 30, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    She’s between a rock and a hard place. I don’t think she believes it for a min. so at the risk of not being considered a hate monger and being black balled, like Louise Farrakon’s “Nation of Islam”, she must put on the face of hope and change. For now she’s the voice of reason and that gets her on TV and at a minimum a chance to tell some of the truth about Islam. So it’s the lesser of two evils for now but, at some point she will change the dialog, that will come when the Muslims continue to commit atrocities and it becomes so obvious to even a moron that a moderate Muslim is just a fantasy, then she can come out and tell everyone that we’ve try being reasonable and acting in good faith with the moderate Muslim but it just doesn’t seem to be working. It’s a risky play on her part but, because the non Muslim world is so full of cowards and therefore unable to conceive the evil’s of Islam, she must reel them in slowly. It’s a numbers game because most of the people that take an interest and become educated will soon find out, like most on this blog, that Islam and moderate Muslims are out to destroy anything non Muslim. It’s the only reason I can figure out why she’s saying what she’s saying. Because if she truly believes what she’s saying this fight just got a lot harder..elmore

    • March 31, 2011 at 2:26 am

      ‘she is caught between a rock and a hard place’ and ‘gently reeling’. I agree with your take on this Michael, as much as agree with Christopher’s. We’re team players, and infighting must be kept to a bare minimum and as part of a tactical strategy.

      • Steve
        March 31, 2011 at 5:07 am

        Logan concluded with: “You should owe your country and children the truth! The truth is that “moderates” are not coming to the rescue.”

        Sorry London Jim. You are dead wrong. I’m not a team player with you if it means peddling lies and false hope. This “team player” nonsense during the Bush years – of lies about Islam, along with treasonous foreign policy – is what got us our worst nightmare, Barack Hussein Obama.

      • eib
        March 31, 2011 at 6:01 am

        The important thing is to understand precisely what you think.
        If you believe that there are Muslim moderates and you trust them, then you are responsible for your actions.
        If you are an advocate for them, then still, you are responsible for your actions.
        If you are an auditor of this advocacy, you are always free to disagree.
        I may not wholeheartedly agree with BG, but I don’t repudiate her either.
        There is just too much about the problem of moderate Islam that I don’t know.
        The first of these things I don’t know is whether or not such “moderates” are honest, and the second is as I’ve stated–
        How moderate is moderate?
        What the hell is that supposed to mean in the context of Muslim scripture?
        Which, we know, is far from moderate, termperate, peaceful, humanitarian and decent.

    • Steve
      March 31, 2011 at 5:20 am

      According to my reading, throughout the nineteen thirties, Winston Churchill was brutally honest about Adolf Hitler, the Nazis and the threat they posed to Europe. Churchill was called everything from a “war-monger” to a “scaremonger.” He was marginalized by the media and the public, to the point that England was unprepared for war. Churchill was honest. England paid a high price for not heeding his many warnings.

      • eib
        March 31, 2011 at 6:02 am

        And the similarity of our position with Churchill’s is truly chilling.
        Because the enemy isn’t in Germany.
        He’s really everywhere.

  9. March 30, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    The Christian reformation put Christianity back on a true path away from church leaders who were like Kings, lords, and other types of government (despotic) leaders. It moved Christianity away from evil people like those of the Salem Witch Trials and the Spanish Inquisition to the teachings of Jesus.

    What can reformation do for Islam? Perhaps it may take it away from the path of Bin Ladin and others like him. But what path will it take, perhaps to the teachings of Muhammad? Well, let’s see what that might be. Muhammad took young girls at the age of nine for his wives. Decreed that women count as half a man, must be beaten into submission, and stoned to death if caught having sex with a man not her husband. Islam demands the conquering of all lands not in control by Islam. Anyone that desires to leave Islam must be killed.

    I don’t see a difference reformation can make in Islam.

    • eib
      March 31, 2011 at 5:55 am

      Quote:
      It moved Christianity away from evil people like those of the Salem Witch Trials and the Spanish Inquisition to the teachings of Jesus.
      end quote.

      Not true.
      The Salem Witch scare was in 1692, and the prosecutions were carried out by PROTESTANT authorities.
      The Reformation did not remove the belief in witches nor did it remove the impulse to link church with state.
      The only development connected with the Reformation that solved this problem was the Wars of Religion, 1500-1650.
      The Spanish Inquisition remained in force until 1824.
      The Holy Office still exists today.
      The only reason we have church-state separation is our revulsion at the mass killing and depopulation in 1500-1650.
      The only reason we have church state separation is that WE KNOW BETTER!
      Muslims never had to deal with convulsions like these.
      And until they do, look for more of their foolishness.

  10. March 31, 2011 at 6:17 am

    Those who are the “purists” in this debate, i.e., “it’s my way or the highway. I’m 100% right and Brigitte is 100% wrong”, are missing a major point here. No one, including Brigitte, thinks for a minute that the reformers have a chance to change the true nature of Islam. But as long as reformers are out there criticizing the Muslim Brotherhood and jihad, we owe them our gratitude. They are placing a huge risk on their lives just as many of us are.

    The other major point to be made here: When we can juxtapose these brave souls’ position against that of CAIR and the MB, we can marginalize the political clout of said organizations. Just look what we’ve been able to do to CAIR’s credibility through the Pete King hearings. They are reeling at this point and we couldn’t have done it nearly as effectively without Jasser bravely blasting away at them.

    Please try to think 10 moves ahead like a master chess player. At this point in the game, public perceptions play a huge role in who wins and who doesn’t.

    Thanks for considering these points.

    Kelly Cook
    National Field Director
    ACT! for America

    • Steve Klein
      March 31, 2011 at 8:05 am

      Mr. Cook, no one is saying (at least I am not saying) “I am 100% right and Brigitte is 100% wrong.” Brigitte Gabriel has done much good. She has educated many. But right is right. Mr. Logan is right, is he not? Moderates are not coming to the rescue. Why mislead the public?

      Nor were Congressman King’s hearings without some merit. Sadly Congressman King bowed to political pressure from Muslim Brotherhood / Hamas-affiliated groups like Council On American Islamic Relations. Mr. King failed to bring forward important witnesses; scholars on Islamic teachings, experts on domestic terrorism, etc., as well as (courageous) prominent former Muslims, who were forced to choose between loyalty to Islam and their adopted country.

      http://frontpagemag.com/2011/03/17/former-muslims-excluded-from-king-hearings/

      Public perception is important. But is does it outweigh honesty and integrity? Shall we compromise our principles on the altar of public perception? When there is an outrage, such as when Glenn Beck lumped Dutch politician Geert Wilders in with fascists, shall we remain silent out of fear of negative public perception? Or out of fear of the perception at Fox News?

      Sincerely,
      Steve Klein

      • March 31, 2011 at 10:05 am

        Hi Steve,

        Good to hear from you. No one is saying we are to compromise truth. What we are doing right now is marginalizing CAIR and the MB and it’s finally beginning to take hold. If you go on CAIR’s FB page right now, they are absolutely apoplectic. Pete King has eviscerated them. If we went on with several of the “experts”, King would have been marginalized. Instead he played it smart and used Muslims willing to criticize CAIR to marginalize CAIR et al. We have finally gotten the FBI to admit publicly that CAIR is off their list of valued advisors.

        We don’t have to always jam the purist “Green Bay Packers” approach down their throats. Sometimes, as in King’s case, he played it smart and checkmated them at their own game. Be assured King was being coached by the best experts in the field, including members from our team. Even Steve Emerson, who first criticized King, recanted after he saw the game plan. Spencer and Geller did as well, although somewhat relunctantly. King’s strategy to expand next to the prison situation is brilliant. Sit back and enjoy the next show. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    • admin
      March 31, 2011 at 10:37 am

      I do not owe anyone gratitude for spreading false hope. Jasser’s message that “moderates” are coming to the rescue, and that he speaks for most Muslims is detrimental to the country. This message only sets us back. Islam is the problem, not just CAIR. I still do not see you calling for what MUST be done. An end to Muslim immigration.

      • March 31, 2011 at 11:21 am

        (You might start reading the various state legislative records and learning what others are ACTUALLY DOING about it. Just a thought. It might just surprise you!)

        On the larger issue, once we eliminate the influence of CAIR and the MB, the rest of the steps necessary become much simpler without the media sanctioned mouth pieces being given regular credence. There is a reason we call it ACT for America. We’re actually doing something. I’m not saying a quality blog is not responsible action. I’m just saying that actually climbing into the political arena, rolling up your sleeves and passing legacy changing legislation might also qualify as something not to be criticized, but celebrated.

        Don’t worry Chris. Now that we know where this blog is, we’ll be holding you accountable to be responsibly doing something, not just criticizing others’ actions. I believe your heart and motivations are right, but now show us some action that actually addresses the problem, however you want to define it. Because if we don’t solve it today in a civil fashion that changes law, we might be faced with having to settle it in far more precarious conditions. The time is short. ACT! for America.

        Kelly Cook
        National Field Director

        • admin
          March 31, 2011 at 11:31 am

          Obviously I was not hiding from you, or ACT! So you need to lose the attitude. You seem to think the anti-Islam movement revolves around ACT!, or that people need your approval. No one does. If you would of actually read through the site you would know what I do.
          Yes, time is short. Too short for your malignant “moderate Muslim” message.

          End of conversation.

  11. Bob Beckenbaugh
    March 31, 2011 at 7:48 am

    My perception is that the The American Islamic Leadership Coalition (AILC)is a positve step in the right direction. How can we not buy into their objective: “As American Muslim leaders, we come together to defend the US Constitution, uphold religious pluralism, protect American security and cherish genuine diversity in the practice of our faith”? To me, Democracy and Christianity require a Muslim partner that will work toward global peaceful coexistence, respects rule of law and the right of all human beings to disagree without fear of repraisal. Don’t we all owe Dr. Juhdi Jasser our gratitude for standing up and being counted? My question is, is moderation possible? Does the Quran accept peaceful coexistence forever, or is it only an expedient phase in the quest for domination? Does Islam now and in the future offer tolerance for any other faith than Islam? Do you think tolerance is possible in our lifetime or is a showdown inevitable? Bob

    • Dan
      March 31, 2011 at 9:29 am

      Bob,

      As long as people follow the qur’an, hadith, and sharia law peaceful coexistence can never happen. You sound like a very intelligent person so don’t take anyone’s word for it. Read a copy of the UNHOLY qur’an for yourself, the aHadith of Bukari, the reliance of the traveller,( the most accepted sharia law manual). Then read any number of the books from muslims who have left islam.

      islam is evil, plain and simple. Does that mean ALL muslims are evil? No. As a Christian Pastor, I can tell you though that all muslims who don’t leave islam will be condemned to hell. If you read the Holy Bible you are warned against false prophets, (mohammed), the antichrist (allah), and the mark of the beast, (islam). When you read the qur’an etc., you will see where to survive Christians must either convert to islam, OR submit to islam, pay the jizya (tax), and see where mohammed required them wear a special mark on their right arm and forehead.

      Hope this helps!

  12. March 31, 2011 at 9:00 am

    There is no sense in Muslims pursuing their stupid ideology anyhow.
    Their god is not the same god of the “People of the Book”, the Jews and Christians.
    If he were then why is it that Muslims must face the Kaaba when praying, wherever they are in the world? The use GPS navigation systems to determine which direction Mecca is. Does this mean they are worshipping an almighty god that is everywhere? NO, they are worshipping a bloody black rock that sits in the Kaaba. It is a stone, the original stone that was there when Mohammad took over, smashed all 360 deities except that one black rock, Hubal…Allah.

    So what does this tell you about Islam? Is it a valid religion or merely a pagan Arab religious cult that doesn’t deserve religious attention, let alone reform.

    Wake up Brigitte. I admire you, but you must come to realize that they are merely lulling us into this false sense of security through promises of reforming the ideology. Reformation simply will not work. It goes against Mohammad’s commandments anyhow, and reformation would be fought by the highest Islamic clerics.

  13. Dan
    March 31, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Logan’s Warning is my favorite blog. When I wake in the morning, the first thing I do is turn on the computer and check my inbox to see if Chris posted an article during the night, if he did I read the article AND ALL comments before checking anything else. I keep a tab with the article open all day to keep checking back on comments. Most of the people who comment on this blog are not JUST Muslim Haters, most of the comments are well thought out articulate comments that I feel we all can learn from. The brochure I made to pass out when I speak at a different Church with recommended books and websites has Logans Warning at the top of the list. I don’t believe I have ever spoke at a Church where I haven’t mentioned this site.

    That being said, there is also a place for BG and ACT. When I first began my study on islam, the first thing I read was BG’s 2 books. Those 2 books really opened my eyes to the EVIL that is islam. Her books are perfect for the person like I was at the time who had bought in to the lie that islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by a few “radicals”. Kind of like a baby eating baby food for a while before trying out a steak.

    Education is a process, her books and Dr Mark Gabreil’s books, (No Realation), are a GREAT place to START. Their books are what encouraged me to purchase my first qur’an, and read it, then go to my Bibles and use them to tear apart the qur’an and hadith.

    So many people who have bought into the lies of islam being “a religion of peace that has simply been hijacked by a few radicals”, (spread in part by misguided Pastors who have been to LAZY to educate themselves before they try to educate their “flock”), need places like ACT to begin to open their eyes. A place to BEGIN their education. There is a need and a place for both Logan’s Warning and ACT.

    Thanks to Chris for all of his efforts, and to all who support him and participate in the comment section! Thanks also Chris for holding BG accountable!!

    • March 31, 2011 at 11:26 am

      Brigitte asked everyone on this blog to read her book, They Must Be Stopped, especially the chapter, “Purists Drink their Islam Straight”.

      I work with this heroine on a regular basis. Believe me, no one needs to “hold her accountable”. Read her book. Her message today is still the same. No PC. No waffling. Just answers to the problem. Get in the game and help us provide legs to those answers!

      Kelly Cook
      National Field Director
      850-912-8973, Ext 2

      • Dan
        March 31, 2011 at 11:46 am

        Kelly,

        If you read my ENTIRE comment, you will see I said the first 2 books I read on the issue were her books!

        As far as getting in the game goes, I have EVEN purchased numerous copies of her books and GAVE them away when I speak at various Churches about the EVIL that is islam.

        There are no telling how many “likes” ACT has on fb because of me. What I am saying is there is a time and a place for both sites. I admire BG and Chris. I do feel BG does pander to the moderates at times. I understand why, however as a Pastor, my job is totally different than hers. My “job” is to point out the evil that is ALL of islam. To try to reach out to muslims and bring them to Christ, and to warn that evil is evil, moderate or radical.

        Dan Cox

        • March 31, 2011 at 12:25 pm

          Thanks for the clarificaton Dan. As a pastor, you’re obviously in the game.

          • March 31, 2011 at 11:49 pm

            Good to see you’re up and kicking Kelly. .been a while since we last spoke a couple of Christmas’s ago.

  14. Chris
    April 1, 2011 at 8:35 am

    As an ACTivist from the West Coast, I am chagrined that so much website “ink” is being wasted in this debate over the possibility of Islamic reform. We don’t live in a “one size fits all” kind of world. The campaign to stop the Islamization of America needs all the Christopher Logans and all of the Brigitte Gabriels who are willing to take a stand against the Islamic ideology, even though they may use different tactics.

    Muslims are addicted. We must get them off this addiction which is dangerous to us as well as themselves. Some addicts can quit “cold turkey,” but others may need a methadone therapy to ease them off the dangerous aspects of the addiction. Moderate Islam may be a safe and practical methadone path for those who cannot outright reject Islam.

    Atheist ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali devotes an entire chapter of her book, “Nomad,” to urging Christians to reach out to Muslims and offer them a better alternative to the ideology of Islam. This is because all people need “faith.” It is unreasonable to destroy the Islamic faith which Muslims now have (however misguided we might think it is) without offering something in its place. Nature abhors a vacuum.

    • New Crusader
      April 1, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Methadone is for hippies. muslims use death against those who moderate. I think the point is well made that the preachers of moderate islam are only preaching to the choir. No one in the active muslim world seems to be interested.

      We can be thankful for those who leave islam, but that is not moderate islam. Those who become “moderate muslims” insult islam and become “targets” for muslims who want to honor and obey allah, mohammad, and islam – just as Kelly Cook has pointed out.

      Don’t forget what has become of the blasphemy incident in Pakistan.

      Here is a short and incomplete list of people who might – or might not -appreciate your methadone argument.
      http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Honor_Killing_Index#Honor_Killings_and_Violence_in_Non-Muslim_Nations

  15. Ramon
    April 2, 2011 at 10:48 am

    She’s basing her words on a demonstrably false precept; that is, assuming moderate Muslims will make a difference. From what I understand from reading on this website and from others, Muslims are allowed to LIE to deceive until they are in the majority. That is the problem. Either moderates tell the truth, which does not matter because radical they will bow to radical Islam, or they lie.

  16. ER
    April 6, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Brigitte Gabriel’s approach re: “moderate” Muslims like Jasser is not some supplemental aspect to be incorporated into a counterjihad approach that may either help or at worst be innocuous, but it is actually HARMFUL itself, for the very “false hope” reason pointed out by Logan…but worse than false hope, false impression about not just the possibilities, but the realities, i.e., miseducation about Islam.

    I object to a commenter’s characterization of rejection of Gabriel’s approach as adherence to a “‘one size fits all’ world,” when instead it is just rejection of Gabriel’s miseducation of the public, not rejection of multiple approaches to counterjihad or recognition of differences within Islam.

    Thank you Chris Logan. This is important.

    • admin
      April 6, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      You’re welcome!

  17. July 15, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    One major action to consider is sending hand-written letters to elected officials. Great impact. Check the site DearRep.com

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