Egyptian Soccer Team: Christians Need not Apply

Not only are Christians in Egypt being physically attacked and killed, now even the soccer team is discriminating against them. Lets please face the reality of the situation here. Things are getting stricter across the Islamic world, and “moderate” Islam is not coming to the rescue. It will be their way of life or ours. Take a side.

Egypt coach Hassan Shehata wants only players who observe Islam on national team
By Hamza Hendawi

CAIRO, Egypt — Egypt coach Hassan Shehata wants only players who observe Islam, and says team selection is based equally on religious piety and skill.

Shehata’s comments, published Thursday in Egyptian newspapers, show how sports and religion are increasingly mixing in the overwhelmingly Muslim nation of 80 million.

The intrusion of religion into sports is part of the country’s gradual movement toward religious conservatism over the last few decades, with more people praying at mosques, most women adopting the Islamic veil in public, and diminishing tolerance for secular Muslims or minority Christians.

There are no Christians on the squad defending its African Cup of Nations title in Angola.

For years, Egyptian athletes have demonstrated their piety in front of fans and the media – kneeling down to offer a prayer of thanks after scoring or winning, or praying before games to implore God to come to their team’s aid.

Shehata’s comments take religion in sports to a whole new level. He was quoted by Cairo newspapers as saying skill alone won’t guarantee anyone a place on the national team.

He said “pious behaviour” was the main reason for selection.

“Without it, we will never select any player regardless of his potential,” he said. “I always strive to make sure that those who wear the Egypt jersey are on good terms with God.”

One newspaper, the independent al-Shorouk, quoted Shehata as saying that striker Ahmed “Mido,” on loan from England’s Middlesborough to Cairo’s Zamalek, was cut four days after his initial selection because he did not fit the manager’s prerequisite for piety.

The move last month came as a surprise because Egypt already was missing injured striker Amr Zaki, formerly with England’s Wigan, and attacking midfielder Mohammed Abu Trekka.

Mido, who enjoys a reputation for hard partying, said he was insulted by his exclusion.

Shehata, a former Egypt international best remembered for his midfield creativity, has not made a secret of the role religion plays in what he does. He is often seen by millions of fans and TV viewers praying during games, and asks supporters to pray for the national side.

In Thursday’s comments, Shehata boasted of how he convinced Egypt striker Mohammed Zidan, who plays for the German club Dortmund, to begin praying.

“I did not like how he used to be aloof and not mix with the rest,” Shehata said. “I convinced him of the need to pray and how important it is. He has been praying since.”

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67 comments for “Egyptian Soccer Team: Christians Need not Apply

  1. Robin Shadowes
    January 15, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    It reminds me of the Monty Python sketch – the philosophers version. If muslim piety weighs more than pure competence we will see something similar, only infinetively more chaotic.

  2. January 16, 2010 at 3:18 am

    I talked with an Egyptian Christian a few days ago. He was lamenting the weakness of the Christians in Egypt – this he blames for the easy rise of Islam there. Interesting. Is Islam strong, or are we, the Christians, Western opposition to Islam weak? We are so soft and gentle that we have forgotten that Jesus is also called Mighty Warrior, and he resisted the Devil and all his work. Islam is of the Devil! We have to fight, America!

  3. January 16, 2010 at 3:18 am

    I talked with an Egyptian Christian a few days ago. He was lamenting the weakness of the Christians in Egypt – this he blames for the easy rise of Islam there. Interesting. Is Islam strong, or are we, the Christians, Western opposition to Islam weak? We are so soft and gentle that we have forgotten that Jesus is also called Mighty Warrior, and he resisted the Devil and all his work. Islam is of the Devil! We have to fight, America!

    • Jennifer R
      January 26, 2010 at 5:07 pm

      Oh my God, you are crazy. Jesus also was tolerant and turned the other cheek. We can look to the bible and pull from it what we want to prove a point. Using it to encourage intolerance and throwing stones at the very thing you are encouraging is hypocritical. Religion has always been a cause of bloodshed and divide. Religion is a personal relationship an individual chooses and should remain as such.

      • January 26, 2010 at 6:21 pm

        Jennifer, have you actually read a Bible? Or just that bit? Jesus taught what was right and wrong, good an evil. If people or actions were of the devil he said so. He still says so and will always be intolerant of sin and evil. Just a few examples. Words of Jesus: John 8:44; Words of Paul: Acts 13:10; 2 Timothy 2:26; Words of John: Revelation 20:10

      • January 26, 2010 at 7:35 pm

        Past Popes fought Islam head on. Do you claim to know more about Christianity than they did?

      • New Crusader
        October 6, 2010 at 10:28 pm

        Did you forget that Jesus is the one who on 2 seperate occasions wove a whip by hand and drove the money changers out of the temple? “Zeal for your house consumes me”? Do you forget who will come back as JUDGE? Good Luck to you in that day. All the luck in the world won’t do you a bit of good.

    • Moe
      October 6, 2010 at 12:51 pm

      Just by hearing You say Islam is from the Devil i knew that you know nothing about Islam so please don’t say such a horrible thing about 1.5 billion people.

      Islam is about peace, we believe in Jesus, we believe in GOD.

      People are giving Islam a bad name, just like red necks are giving American people a bad name when we see them on TV.

      We respect Christians and all other religions and whoever says otherwise he is not consider as a Muslim.

      Back to this Article, it is totality incorrect information Captin Hassan Shehata (Egyptian Coach) never said anything about keeping the team all Muslims.

      Plus the Egyptian Youth team Boss is Christian BTW.

      Please make logic of what you read, not anything said on the media is true

      Your Muslim American Brother: Moe.
      NileSports.com

      • admin
        October 6, 2010 at 1:10 pm

        Islam condones terrorism, kidnapping, and rape. It also calls for the dominance of Christians. That is not peaceful, and how come you do not mention the fact that the Islamic version of Jesus is not the same as the Jesus of Christianity?

        Where is your source about the coach? Your word alone means nothing to me.

        Do you hold Sharia higher than the laws of America?

      • admin
        October 6, 2010 at 1:11 pm

        Moe said: “not anything said on the media is true”

        Lol!. Right, all because you say so.

        • October 6, 2010 at 7:52 pm

          Chris, that was actually a spammer. Seems he copied a comment from somewhere else and used it to hide the fact that he’s actually a spammer (note the URL he uses).

          There’s a better example here –

          http://loganswarning.com/2010/10/03/the-bitter-truth-moderate-muslims-are-not-coming-to-the-rescue/

          where “kennel supplies directory” simply copied Truth Detector’s comment verbatim.

          • admin
            October 6, 2010 at 7:58 pm

            I knew he was a spammer, but I didn’t know it was not his words.

            Thanks.

          • October 6, 2010 at 10:07 pm

            They’re just trying to get cleverer. Not sure why they think they’ll really fool anyone. Best to delete their comments and block the IP address.

      • New Crusader
        October 6, 2010 at 10:40 pm

        You respect Christians?? Why don’t you tell that to the Christians who converted from Islam and now run for their lives, and the beheaded missionaries from Indonesia. Why then do you prohibit Bibles in Islamic Countries. Shall I go on? And “Red Necks”? Is this your form of tolerance? Pejorative use for people you … shall we say you have no respect for?

  4. January 16, 2010 at 3:22 am

    I believe that it is both.

    In a recent BBC radio broadcast, Carey shared his desire for a “country that values its Christian heritage and democratic standards and all that this country has fought over.” He also asserted that Britain needs a “tougher church” as “Christians are so very often so soft” and “allow other people to walk over us” because “we don’t want to upset other people.” Britain’s retired senior archbishop declared Christians must be “more outspoken.” The Christian and Jewish idea to ‘welcome the stranger” must be affirmed, Carey said. But uncontrolled immigration could allow Britain to be “destabilized” and the creation of “ghettoes.”

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/01/15/former-archbis

  5. Laura
    January 18, 2010 at 6:30 am

    Religious conservatism? This is how the media describes Egypt's apartheid system?

    I'm expecting any moment for leftists from around the world to show up at soccer matches to protest whenever the Egyptian team is competing. I am also expecting them to demand Egyptian athletes be barred from competition and for that matter boycott anything that comes from Egypt and rail against its apartheid system. This of course is what they consistently do with regards to Israel, the only free country in the Middle East and the only country in the region which is NOT an apartheid state.

  6. dina
    January 31, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    I think all the western and african teams of Christian majority nations should bycott this team. Let the all Muslim teams play against each other and see where that will lead them

    • January 31, 2010 at 10:34 pm

      You are correct, the silence by Christians arcrss the world does not cut it.

  7. christian arab
    March 11, 2010 at 12:47 am

    we need to distinguish between arab christians and arab or nonarab moslims like bangali and pakistani ..

    And we need to move all christians of the world to help eachothers and love one another against all evil

    • March 11, 2010 at 1:26 am

      Non-Muslims of all other religions and Atheists, need to unite against this common enemy.

  8. March 31, 2010 at 2:31 am

    eygypt is the best team in africa and all teams in the word..coz they worships their lord and respect him very well in any where and any place….look wht ghan didi the final african cup in angola they raised an Israel flag ..all the people know wht isreal is doing in plestine they killing childrens and mothers..and they final eygptian players scored and took the cup immediately..so eygypt is the best and

    • March 31, 2010 at 11:42 am

      I can't wait for them to lose. Will you blame that on the will of allah?

    • New Crusader
      October 6, 2010 at 10:50 pm

      You needs to stp smkn th gnja man.

  9. Mohamed
    December 21, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    OMG i cant not believe the amount of ignorance all you people have here ! First this is all down to the admin who posted this article stating that coach shehata only plays muslim athletes first of all for your information thre are currently no christian players that i could recall of currently playing in the top teams in egypt that could be even considered to be called for the national team , second of all one of the best mid fielders in the history of Egypt (HANY RAMZY) who was a christian played for Egypt as regular till the day he retired and he IS THE YOUTH COACH NOW OF EGYPT DO YOUR RESEARCH!! , and coach shehata never claimed these words you seem to insist that he has said , i know what you are trying to do , all your doing is just tryin to shed some dirt on the image of Islam,, Christian in egypt getting attacked and killed LOOOOOOOOL what a joke that just proves my point ,,two of my best friends are christians in egypt and i have never attacked or threatened to kill them. WALLA HAMZAWY ANA FAHMAK YALLA !!

    • admin
      December 21, 2010 at 11:07 pm

      First of all, I did not write the article and don’t even begin to act like Christians are not persecuted in Egypt. Just because you have not attacked them, does not mean that Christians there are not persecuted. Anyone can do a search on Coptics here. As far as me being “ignorant”, let me know when you want to debate the Islamic scriptures, and keep in mind I will be using quotes from an Islamic Law manual approved by Al Azhar. Do you claim to know more about Islam than they do? Secondly what happened in the past, does not mean the coach did not say those things.

      • Mohamed
        December 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm

        How in the world are they persecuted !!! do you live in egypt NOOO well guess what I DID and i have been living there for the past 10 years of my life ,, Second of all the article you imply are ways of tradition over in Egypt whoever over there converts people see that as a BIG SIN , this has nothing to do with Islam i know of a person that converted from christianity to Islam and has been hunted down from his “CHRISTIAN” family members for over the past 10 years and is threatened to be killed , pictures of him were even posted in his former local Church so this act is not a rule enforced by the azhar but it is a way of customs and living over in egypt. and last SHEHATA NEVER SAID these words that has been stated in the above article and i bet that whovever wrote this article does not have any signs of prove .

        • admin
          December 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

          I have never been to Africa either, but I know children are starving there. It is called reading, and I do know people from Egypt. The domination of non-Muslims has everything to do with Islam.

          Koran verse 009.029
          YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

          Al Azhar has called for the dominance of the Christians there. Which is proven here.

          http://loganswarning.com/2010/12/18/please-check-out-michael-carls-guess-what-egypts-muslims-do-with-christians%E2%80%A6/comment-page-1/#comment-46223

          Prove he didn’t say it, and the coach is only the tip of the iceberg of the problem. You will not sugarcoat it here.

          • Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 12:14 am

            OMG that just proves that you are either a fluke or the cant seem to translate the arabic language well my friend if you look at the prior verses and the verses afterwards allah only stated to fight them if they have first raised attack on we ,,,go do some research before you open your mouth funny thing is that a journalist from denmark covered the same verse that you did and once he was proven wrong on all the mis-assumptions he provided he happily converted to ISLAM is that a coincidence well you tell me ! 😀 and yeah you are not going to back up your comment on christians being persecuted by the azhar by showing me that article thts just another ignorant person like yourself thats just trying to ruin the image of ISLAM and last the tip of the ice berg is kinda melting to me as it seams that there is no problem in the end,, YOUR THE PROBLEM !!

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 12:22 am

            Jizya is part of Islamic Law once Muslims. Even Al-Azhar admits this.

            http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/

            What you fail to understand is that your word here means nothing, either start backing up your statements with a source or do not bother posting.

            Egypt Copts killed in Christmas church attack

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8444851.stm

            In case you didn’t know Egypt used to be a Christian country, and the persecution of Christians there is well documented.

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 12:37 am

            { قَاتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلاَ بِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلْحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُواْ ٱلْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ }

            Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, for, otherwise, they would have believed in the Prophet (s), and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as wine, nor do they practise the religion of truth, the firm one, the one that abrogated other religions, namely, the religion of Islam — from among of those who (min, ‘from’, explains [the previous] alladhīna, ‘those who’) have been given the Scripture, namely, the Jews and the Christians, until they pay the jizya tribute, the annual tax imposed them, readily (‘an yadin is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning, ‘compliantly’, or ‘by their own hands’, not delegating it [to others to pay]), being subdued, [being made] submissive and compliant to the authority of Islam.

          • Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 12:43 am

            STOP WITH THE AZHAR PROTEST NO THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LAW WHICH STATES THIS,, YOUR BIASED ARTICLES ARE NOT CONVINCING ME ,and trust me just wait till tomorrow and i will have the sources which will back up my statements which i have previously said once i find the deep exact meaning funny though that the only thing you did was translate the same verse again while refusing to search the meaning of all the other verses which come before and after

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 12:49 am

            I am not trying to convince you of anything, either you are ignorant to your own religion or just another game playing Muslim. Do it now.

    • admin
      December 21, 2010 at 11:15 pm
      • Mohamed
        December 22, 2010 at 12:52 am

        funny that the topic is only covered by websites on the internet whom are either Christian or ani ISlam websites like you cant see any reliable sources stating this 😀

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 12:56 am

          Most of my sources are the Koran, ahadith, and the Reliance of Traveller, which is an Islamic Law manual approved by Al-Azhar. All a reader has to do is click on the highlighted words to see this.

          Offensive jihad:

          Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
          Narrated Anas bin Malik:

          Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

          That is from the Sahih Bukhari ahadith. Do you claim to know more about Islam than him?

          I suggest you prove me wrong on something on your next post, or this conversation is coming to an end.

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 1:00 am

          Are you implying that tasfir site I quoted is ant-Islamic?

          http://www.uga.edu/islam/quran.html

          I also get a lot of information from other Islamic sites.

          Are you afraid to criticize Islam?

          • Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 1:09 am

            AFraid to critisize ISLAM !! If i wanted i couldnt IT IS perfect, the only Religon out here that actually makes a whole lot of sense Lucky for you i am not a sheikh with that much Islamic Knowledge as i am still young still studying the quran , but all these criticisms you have stated were proved wrong before and mark my word it will be a matter of hours where i will get the correct info that will prove it wrong once again till then see ya my friend 🙂 SALAM 3aleikom and oh yeah to all Muslim haters LAM NASTANSAR :D:D

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 1:15 am

            Thanks for proving my point, you condone pedophilia and rape because Islam allows it. Thanks for also confirming that you do not much about Islam, but will blindly defend it. If my statements were proven wrong before, it should be easy for you to do it now…go get your Imam.

            I already backed up my statements with proof from Al-Azhar, the worlds highest learning Islamic school in the world.

    • Desertt Queen
      December 22, 2010 at 1:32 am

      Mohammed you EVIL lair, I’m in Egypt and your denial that Christians are being sacrificed for your Arab pagan allah is disgusting! Wasn’t it Muslims who killed 24 Christians including burning a 9 year old Christian child in front his mother FOR BEING CHRISTIAN in Kosheh? Didn’t Satan worshiping Muslims kill 7 people randomly while leaving a church in Nag Hammadi last Christmas?
      And hundreds of incidences more!!!
      And there was a Christian player who retired in the football team and he won’t be replaced, because Shehata is now choosing according to how evil and submissive a player to is to this cult of hell. Go spread your lies somewhere else YA ROUH OMAK!

      • Mohamed
        December 22, 2010 at 10:19 am

        i do not know where the in the world you have been living for stating this Bullshit the i swear has never happened YA BET IL HABLA 😀

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 10:25 am

          As usual Mohamed is wrong, and will obviously say anything to protect Islam. But in reality he only proves the point of many people here.

          The three men allegedly sprayed a crowd with gunfire after a Christmas service in Nag Hammadi on Jan. 6. In addition to the seven that were killed, nine others were wounded. The killings were the worst act of anti-Coptic violence since January 2000, when 20 Copts were killed in sectarian fighting in Al-Kosheh.

          http://www.religionnewsblog.com/24108/another-coptic-christian-killed-as-alleged-shooters-plead-not-guilty-in-egypt

          • Menna Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 11:03 am

            Hey ADmin! I do not think any source that has the word “BLOG” is a reliable source!
            Do you even know what a blog is ?

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 11:05 am

            The original source is either in the highlighted words, or at the end of the article.

    • New Crusader
      December 22, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Mohamed,

      “Lucky for you i am not a sheikh with that much Islamic Knowledge as i am still young still studying the quran , “

      Yes you are young

      If you were A Sheikh, you might know:
      For centuries, the Copts — Egypt’s Christian, indigenous inhabitants — have been subject to persecution, discrimination, humiliation, and over all subjugation in their homeland (etymologically, “Copt” simply means “Egyptian”). In the medieval era, such treatment was a standard aspect of sharia’s dhimmi codes, first ratified under Caliph Omar in the 7th century and based on Koran 9:29.

      http://www.meforum.org/2762/coptic-persecution-mubarak

      If you were just 2 years old you might know:
      ISTANBUL, January 27 (CDN) — After her arrest at Cairo’s airport on Dec. 13 while attempting to flee anti-Christian hostilities in Egypt, convert Martha Samuel Makkar was granted bail on Saturday (Jan. 24), but not before a judge took her aside and said he would like to kill her, according to her lawyer.

      http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/egypt/1860/

      If you were just a 1 year and few months old you would know:
      …. series of violent assaults took place in the Upper Egyptian village of Ezbet Boushra-East, on 6/21/09 when Copts were assaulted, their homes destroyed and their crops uprooted by a Muslim mob and the Egyptian State Security,…

      http://www.aina.org/news/20090701003916.htm

      If you were just 1 year old you might know:
      In recent days the two (Dina and her mother) met with the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom in Cairo. They asked for refugee status to get out of Egypt.

      http://www.uscirf.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2961&Itemid=1

      Is it safe to say you might be just a little wet behind the ears?

  10. Menna Mohamed
    December 22, 2010 at 7:46 am

    You can NEVER believe what you read online!!! What are we five to believe something that we see online. For whom that do not know: ANYONE can post ANYTHING over the internet! We could even find a FAKE Quraan or fake Hadith!
    Anyways, the only person who could talk about this issue are either those who have been living in Egypt OR that had something like this happen too.
    Anyone else that would talk or comment on this issue, its completely pointless and is a great waste of time for you. 🙂

    • admin
      December 22, 2010 at 7:58 am

      Prove my statements to be false, and you saying nothing online is true is just ridiculous. Did Mohamed call you here to fight his battle?

      • Menna Mohamed
        December 22, 2010 at 10:53 am

        Prove your statements are true. 🙂
        Im Egyptian and i live in Egypt i doubt you are! 🙂
        I have Coptic and Catholic friends and long time family friends, I never heard them complain. 🙂
        Almost EVERYTHING online isn’t reliable, unless its on CNN, NY times, ETc.
        Not you personal BLOG because you could write anything in it and anyone could make up anything and write it 🙂 its SO EASY !LOL
        Obviously your not internet educated. By the way i have a Bachelor Degree in IT (Information Technology) they taught us in school that the internet is hugeeee network that connects everyone around the word which makes it SO EASY for anyone to write anything! have fun making stuff up 🙂

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 10:58 am

          I already provided a source. Laugh all want, but the articles here have source(s).

          • Menna Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 11:01 am

            okay, Believe your sources, but a little more research wouldnt hurt ;).
            I advice you to take your mind off of this stuff and get a life! Life is short 🙂

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 11:02 am

            I have done years of research, and you have not refuted a thing. I have a life, and I will continue to speak out against Islam. It that clear enough for you?

          • Menna Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 11:06 am

            years of research have led you to rely on BLOGS?!?! lol

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 11:08 am

            Your games are getting old, if you would click on some of the links you would see almost all of them are not from blogs. On top of your game playing, you have not refuted a thing. I suggest you do so on you next post with a source, or we are done here.

            Here is a recent statement from Al-Azhar.

            “Egypt is an ‘Islamic State’ according to the text of its Constitution, which represents the social contract between its people. From this stems the rights of citizenship, as taught to us by the Messenger of Allah in his pact with the Christians of Najran, in which he decided that they were to enjoy rights and duties as the Muslims. However, these rights are conditional to respect for the Islamic Identity and the citizenship rights as set by the Constitution,” the statement read.

          • Menna Mohamed
            December 22, 2010 at 11:13 am

            Go look up the definition of a BLOG 🙂

          • admin
            December 22, 2010 at 11:14 am

            In other words you cannot refute a thing that I have said. Oh look…..even CNN has a blog section.

            http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

            Good bye.

  11. Menna Mohamed
    December 22, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Oh and by the way, this is for “Desertt Queen” Killing in Islam is a HUGE SIN, that will never be forgiven by Allah.
    AND were you there when “a 9 year old Christian child in front his mother FOR BEING CHRISTIAN” ?
    I doubt it.
    AND if someone did this is will never be forgiven by ANYONE ESPECIALLY GOD. This someone that supposedly did this is, is either not a Muslim or a sick person or someone who is just ignorant. That is if its true! But believe me this would never be tolerated in any religion ESPECIALLY ISLAM!
    Check your sources.

    • admin
      December 22, 2010 at 8:00 am

      A person can be killed for spreading “mischief” in the land. “Mischief” can be defined as almost anything.

      http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/28/islam-101-koran-verse-532-a-license-to-kill/

      Are you implying that the Coptics of Egypt are not persecuted under Islamic rule?

      • Infidel
        December 22, 2010 at 11:23 am

        Admin, it is really hard to convince him he is wrong. I was super liberal at one point and thats when I was young, too lol. He does not know the real world, obviously. I was convinced that Mexican Cartels were the place to be at one point! lol man

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 1:02 pm

          Lol! That is a great story. I know, I do it more for the other people who may be reading. Debating him proves at least one of two things. That Muslims will blindly defend their religion, or they will blatantly lie to protect it.

  12. Menna Mohamed
    December 22, 2010 at 11:31 am

    That’s CNN that a random person like you.
    🙂
    Where did you get that statement? obviously not in the Quraan. A person can only be killed if they kill another innocent person, unless its for self defense of course.
    bye bye man lol

    • admin
      December 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm

      It is amazing how little you know about Islam, yet you come here and try and defend it. If you are talking about “spreading mischief” in the land, yes it is from the Koran. It is verse 5:32.

      Koran verse 005.032
      YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

      A non-Muslim can also be killed for not agreeing to pay jizya.

      http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/

  13. Sara Mohamed
    December 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    all i have to say is that i feel sorry 4 cause from wherever u r they didnt teach u anything about islam and u should read the koraan well cause allah said in sora no 109:
    قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ (1) لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ (2)لَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ (3)
    وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَا عَبَدْتُمْ (4)وَلَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَاأَعْبُدُ (5) لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ (6)

    plus wut do u know about Egypt i lived in london & i studied all the religions and at the end i found that ppl who dont know anything about Egypt thinks that we ride camel and live in the desert looooool u should wake up ppl and u dont have 2 bs such an ass and fight the islam cause its the last religion came 4m God so plz dont try to such a racist and find something usefull 2 do islam such a beautifull religion and we r good ppl and we beat italy ( the world champions )in the football loool

    • admin
      December 22, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      I have read the Koran, and much more. You still have not refuted a thing I have said.
      Islam allows the taking of sex slaves, there is nothing beautiful about that.

      What race is Islam?

      • Sara Mohamed
        December 22, 2010 at 1:23 pm

        wut religion r u ??

        • admin
          December 22, 2010 at 3:28 pm

          I am not religious.

  14. Mohamed
    December 22, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Didnt i tell you before about the sex slaves you dont listen do you and you say we blindly defend Islam listen to your self Islam does not allow women to be sex slaves and i proved you wrong somewhere else on another article where you stated that Second I did my research and finally ive come to the accurate meaning of Jizya not the ruined image you try to provide Jizya is a three step process long before once a tribe was conqured by the Muslims first Muslims would offer them to listen and convert to Islam , then if not they would offer them to pay Jizya where Muslims will be required to protect them while also leaving with them PEACEFULLY , if that was not accepted then Muslims will then offer them to leave or else will declare war on them. I see this as an acceptable way in conquering unlike the Bible which states that once a certain place is conquered Children , wives and husbands should all be executed to death and check your “sources” if you dont believe me this just shows how much that your years of studying Islam was actually nothing but a waste of time as you didn’t have the intelligence needed to understand the quran you just seem to believe what you want and attack ISLAM BLINDLY really funny to that you blocked Menna and deleted a comment up there which really shows signs of defeat 😀 All i have to say is good luck with all your hating on Islam once agian you failed to prove your point just like all the others and i wish you the best in this very promising future i see you have for yourself all i can say is i cant wait to see you the day you are put in Gohanam i feel very very sorry for you hope God shows you the light on day “Rabeena yahdeek” 🙂

    • admin
      December 22, 2010 at 9:15 pm

      Lose the attitude Mohamed, and the verses I posted proved my point. What part of your word is meaningless do you not understand? For the last time jizya is part of Islamic Law, as proven by Al-Azhar.

      http://loganswarning.com/2010/08/26/sharia-law-islamic-law-101-non-muslims-under-sharia/

      No, blocking her is a sign of her not refuting a thing I said, and me not wanting to spend anymore time in a circular conversation with her. Just like with you.
      A sign of being uniformed, and defeat is you running for help. We are done here.

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